Bourgeoisie Education System?

[The Local Loser]

After the revolution in China, the same Bourgeoisie Education system was maintained, and despite various struggles by party members and lower to middle class peasant struggles, it was never really transformed, in the way it should have been.

I wanted to lay down some Ideas for the reforming of the educational institutions.

First, I think tests of the present, do nothing, and are not proof of the level of intelligence, but proof that, in this system, one days performance
can make or ruin your entire life.

I believe that that after the revolution, that first each student should be taught a trade, something usefull to society, like a carpenter, or plumber, or engineer, something that society needs.

Then after going through theoretical and practical studies, and becoming well versed in their selected field, can choose to either join the work force straight away, or go on to higher education, or into something to benefit society, by making new breakthroughs, IE medicine, science etc.

Fred Hampton once said, its no good having the theoretical nailed down, but never having experienced in practical.

And its no good putting your ideas into practice, if the theoretical is not good.

Education should be both based on theoretical studies, in classrooms, aswell as out in the field.

And with a planned economy, we could eliminate unemployment, and industry would boom, creating a red future full of material wellbeing, where we all produce for each other.

Any ideas on this subject?

I would love to see all this realised one day.

[ComradeAV]

After the revolution in China, the same Bourgeoisie Education system was maintained, and despite various struggles by party members and lower to middle class peasant struggles, it was never really transformed, in the way it should have been.

I wanted to lay down some Ideas for the reforming of the educational institutions.

First, I think tests of the present, do nothing, and are not proof of the level of intelligence, but proof that, in this system, one days performance
can make or ruin your entire life.

I believe that that after the revolution, that first each student should be taught a trade, something usefull to society, like a carpenter, or plumber, or engineer, something that society needs.

Then after going through theoretical and practical studies, and becoming well versed in their selected field, can choose to either join the work force straight away, or go on to higher education, or into something to benefit society, by making new breakthroughs, IE medicine, science etc.

Fred Hampton once said, its no good having the theoretical nailed down, but never having experienced in practical.

And its no good putting your ideas into practice, if the theoretical is not good.

Education should be both based on theoretical studies, in classrooms, aswell as out in the field.

And with a planned economy, we could eliminate unemployment, and industry would boom, creating a red future full of material wellbeing, where we all produce for each other.

Any ideas on this subject?

I would love to see all this realised one day.

This is a very good plan. But I heard that in Maoist china that the students and teachers together decided what was taught. Although I believe that Mao was a revisionist and I don't uphold china then and now as socialist, it wasn't a bad idea. As far as the practical experience goes, I heard that thats how the system works in Cuba. Cuba is only a social-democratic country or a leftist populist country in my opinion, but they have a pretty good education system. As far as the current system, you very right. basically in school what you do the SAT makes or breaks you and teachers are graded based on how students do on tests, so they have no incentive to do anything but prepare for tests. Also, they have less of an incentive to teach low-income areas.

[Kotze]

The educational system is full of rules that create stress and make learning harder.

A test should show that you now understand something, who cares how old you are, how much time you spend in class, or whether you failed some time ago. Such restrictions on being allowed to take a test should be exceptions, justified by exceptional cost of the specific test (the test in question must require something else than writing down responses, like poking around in corpses for example) or health risks (eg. forklift license).

If compulsory attendance is used at all, it should only apply to essential subjects and to students who perform bad regarding these. Students with good grades in a subject should have the option to do some paid teaching themselves.

Some other ideas: Your teacher shouldn't be the one who gives you the grade, because that creates tension. Learning a second language should start really early. Kids should receive free lunch in school. All the texts, audio, pictures, movies, software used from Kindergarten to university should be freely available on the net. Adults who study stuff that is important for needed tasks (medicine, engineering) should be paid for that. There should be strict limits on allowing students with a bourgeois background into the humanities.