Thats what I cal no platform: Nick Griffin forced to run from the UAF

[El Rojo]

http://www.socialistworker.co.uk/art.php?id=23596


Protesters stopped Nick Griffin, leader of the Nazi British National Party (BNP), from speaking at meeting last night.
About 30 anti-fascists assembled at short notice after Unite Against Fascism (UAF) heard of Griffin’s invitation to the journalists' Frontline Club in Paddington, west London.
Socialist Worker

photos also available here:

http://www.demotix.com/news/555996/nick-griffin-forced-retreat-frontline-club-talk

[Lord Testicles]

Well done to the UAF members involved in this. :thumbup1:
I'm genuenly suprised that they didn't invite the police along to kettle them so that they can lawfully shout "Whos streets? Our streets!" down a megaphone before handing a platform to a Labour\conservative\Liberal represetative.

[Anarchist Skinhead]

yeah, same here.. Weymann Wanknett is probably getting a heart attack right now :)

[Sam_b]

Weymann Wanknett is probably getting a heart attack right now

I remember the good old days when sectarians would at least make their slur mock-names funny.

[Ravachol]

Are these security goons part of a BNP security force or are they simply private security hired to escort Nickyboy?

[Jazzratt]

Surely that should be "forced to waddle..."

[Sasha]

nick is getting quite fatty isnt he? look at how buff he used to be:
http://images.mirror.co.uk/upl/m4/jun2009/4/6/nick-griffin-image-2-996158499.jpg
live must be good feeding on the BNP membership trough

[Anarchist Skinhead]

I remember the good old days when sectarians would at least make their slur mock-names funny.

and I remember when there was no widespread internet and tossers like you didn't have a platform to post their shite.

Anyway, whoever did it, well done, although I am sure it was not sanctioned by UAF leadership, because otherwise as somebody mentioned, there would be a big police pen, from which they would be shouting "stop the narzi bnp" at fascists.

[Sam_b]

and I remember when there was no widespread internet and tossers like you didn't have a platform to post their shite.


Thanks for confirming your use of name-calling when you don't have a political argument.


I am sure it was not sanctioned by UAF leadership

Except you don't know, do you?

What is the 'UAF Leadership'?

[Anarchist Skinhead]

err... did somebody fart?

[El Rojo]

and I remember when there was no widespread internet and tossers like you didn't have a platform to post their shite.

this is funny because you are using the internet to post imbicile comments of no worthy content such as the above. aka, shite.


Anyway, whoever did it, well done, although I am sure it was not sanctioned by UAF leadership, because otherwise as somebody mentioned, there would be a big police pen, from which they would be shouting "stop the narzi bnp" at fascists.

study the UAF's previous demonstrations for more than five minutes and you will find that this action is not the only case of the UAF organising and demonstrating without state approval. Insisting on always working outside of a legal demonstration framework is a massive tactical limitation and makes the action less accessible to older people, people new to activism, disabled people ect. but nevermind all this exchange of ideas malarky, just keep on trolling, right?

[Anarchist Skinhead]

I was on enough protests with participation of UAF to have fair limit of personal knowledge, I don't need to be checking anything on internet.

In quite few of those there was blatant co-operation with police, instances of sabotaging the efforts of militant anti-fascists (last time in Brighton Anti-ENA march), handing fellow marchers to police for refusing to obey orders of stewards (Manchester). As a matter of fact I think this is the first time I remember of UAF members actually stopping fash directly (and well done to those involved!)- if it was indeed UAF members doing the job, not you lot taking credit by clever placing of few placards in front of cameras as you have done on numerous occasions.
If rank-and-file UAF members are up for stopping fash directly, then great- unfortunately 95% of them seems to be following their wanky leaders like herd of sheep and waste their time on mostly useless (at best) if not outright counter-productive protests.

[Sam_b]

unfortunately 95% of them seems to be following their wanky leaders like herd of sheep and waste their time on mostly useless (at best) if not outright counter-productive protests.

Nice to see an attack on hundreds of working class people by a 'militant anti-fascist'.

Who are these 'wanky leaders'?

[Anarchist Skinhead]

err... hundreds os working class people in UAF/SWP? Surely it is a jest my good sir :)

[Sam_b]

err... hundreds os working class people in UAF/SWP? Surely it is a jest my good sir

Don't know why I am feeding the troll, but here goes.

Why the use of UAF/SWP? You cannot prove that UAF is solely an SWP project; it is not exclusively run by the SWP. Plus, I think the majority of those in our group are working class.

So who are these 'wanky leaders'? I know you only know one person, but let's go.

[El Rojo]

As a matter of fact I think this is the first time I remember of UAF members actually stopping fash directly (and well done to those involved!)

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/8091605.stm

I could cite more examples but I have the feeling that I am wasting my time

[Lord Testicles]

Insisting on always working outside of a legal demonstration framework is a massive tactical limitation and makes the action less accessible to older people, people new to activism, disabled people ect. but nevermind all this exchange of ideas malarky, just keep on trolling, right?

I don't really want to wade into this disscussion but there is a big difference between working within the a "legal demonstration framework" and actively co-operating with the police to arrest activists and giving a platform to those who defend capitalism.

[Anarchist Skinhead]

Thanks you Skinz. I don't really feel like wasting time on discussing the obvious here that only those two seem to be persistently denying. No need to prove anything, everybody knows :)
now if you UAF/SWP drones are quite finished, you probably got copies of s.worker to sell and unruly anarchists to report on to the police.

PS El Rojo- feel free to report on multitude of direct approach actions organised by UAF, I have a funny feeling that apart from egging incident and that last thing (again, second thing actually is not confirmed to be organised by UAF apart from presence of few placards there) there will be nothing to talk about. Feel free as well to comment on handing Anarchist comrade into hands of the police in Manchester, leading away large group of people AWAY from the fascist into police pen in Brighton, your role in anti-EDL/SDL action in Edinburgh and many, many others such as presence of LibDem and Labour councillors and MPs amongst your ranks. Working call my fucking arse. Good night.

[Sam_b]

I don't really feel like wasting time on discussing the obvious here that only those two seem to be persistently denying. No need to prove anything, everybody knows :)
now if you UAF/SWP drones are quite finished, you probably got copies of s.worker to sell and unruly anarchists to report on to the police.

So that's a "no, I don't know who these leaders are and can't rebute the line that UAF aren't controlled by the SWP". What a cop-out.

PS - Whats your problem with propagandising through newspapers and magazines in interventions?

[Anarchist Skinhead]

Ni, its a "no, I will not be wasting time discussin with SWP drone".
I have no problem with propagandising in newspapers, I have a problem with stuff I mentioned that UAF is doing on anti-fascist actions. End of discussion on my part.

[Sam_b]

"no, I will not be wasting time discussin with SWP drone".

So it's excuses over substance then? Surely you would want to win over the people that post in the Anti Fascist forum over to your position and justify your claims? Or do you have no grasp of what you are talking about at all?

Who are the 'wanky leaders'?

[human strike]

http://london.indymedia.org/system/photo/2011/01/14/5600/dsc_1436.jpg

Oh God yes.