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The Man
14th January 2011, 02:38
Someone said to me that Capitalism is very similar to Anarcho-Communism because the thought that if a person doesn't produce something for system, he gets nothing out of society, is almost like exploitation and capitalism.
What's your opinion on this?
ExUnoDisceOmnes
14th January 2011, 02:41
I think that it's an interesting thought. I have to uphold that EVERY individual gets the essentials for life. Food, water, shelter. And in late stages of communism, everything is based around needs.
I agree that having someone starve to death if he doesn't work is very much like capitalism, however I wouldn't call it exploitation per se because there isn't a capitalist living off of surplus value.
Misanthrope
14th January 2011, 03:00
What does a capitalist produce?
Savage
14th January 2011, 03:46
There is a fundamental difference between being in control of your labor and being enslaved by it.
Kamil
15th January 2011, 09:26
Not contributing to society while still reaping the benefits of communism (food, water, shelter, NEEDS ect.) is in effect the same thing as living off of surplus value, making that person an exploiter. Thus this person would be at odds with the community around them. I'd say force the person to earn their share. "To each what he needs" is PRECEDED by "FROM EACH what he can". Unless of course they had some sort of physical handicap or mental disability, thats a different issue.
Kamil
15th January 2011, 09:52
"From each according to his abbilities" I meant!!! Which is to say that the manner in which one "earns his share" is relative depending on the person. The Desire to not put back into society what your taking is the manifestation of a capitalist mindset. In the initial stage of a revolution the executive forces of a workers state would COMPELL people to contribute if they did not want to. The duty of the workers party during the transition is to battle exploitation in all its forms and getting a free-ride is obvious exploitation of the system. Someone attempting to do this would be fufilling the same role as a capitalist and would thus be regarded as an enemy of the people as a whole. A workers party must repress the ressurgence of bourgeousis activity in order to safeguard the progress of the community towards classlessness. How can there be a classless society if a certain segment of the population are getting something for nothing just like old thr aristocrats or nobility?
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