Hamas PA colluding with US Blackwater

[freepalestine]

Hamas: PA colluding with US Blackwater
Published yesterday (updated) 13/01/2011 12:47
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GAZA CITY (Ma'an) -- Following an agreement that would give private US security group Blackwater access to the West Bank, Hamas spokesman Fawzi Barhoum said the move meant Palestinians were "under double attack."

Chief of the PA security forces in the West Bank Adnan Dmeiri, who confirmed the arrival of the security personnel, said the agents would only be fulfilling their mandate to protect US officials when they are in the West Bank and institutions in Tel Aviv and Jerusalem.

"They will not reside in Palestinian areas," Dmeiri said, dismissing the concern.

Hamas' Barhoum, however, accused the PA of coordinating with US intelligence, and called the move a reflection of the "multinational authority" ruling the West Bank, which aims to "oppress the freedom of the Palestinians, their sovereignty on their land enable the Israeli occupation to apply its agenda of rubbing out all those defending the Palestinian cause."

The arrival of Blackwater security personnel to Palestine "represents the largest danger to the lives and sovereignty of Palestinians," Barhoum said, adding that he believed it "confirmed the existence of US-Israel security cooperation," and would add to the "violations of freedoms and human rights already carried out in the West Bank."

The Hamas spokesman called on the "Fatah Authority" to fall in line with the desires of Palestinians, to "resist the occupation," and demanded that the PA refocus on the "national project."
http://www.maannews.net/eng/ViewDetails.aspx?ID=350456

[RGacky3]

Given Blackwaters history theres no way this is nothing more than bodyguard work.

Nothing ever good happens in palestine, I would love to see some palestinian victories, its just depressing.

[ComradeMan]

Finally.

[RGacky3]

Finally.


Finally what?

[Che a chara]

Who are these Blackwater mercenary scum accountable to ? Their track record in the Middle East is deplorable and their only allegiance apart from themselves is US imperialist interests.

Freelance terrorism legitimised by Zionism. :thumbdown:

[IndependentCitizen]

Blackwater is the dirtiest Mercenary company there is, we shouldn't be surprised if more bodies are found with bullet holes in West Bank than usual.

[ComradeMan]

Hamas was set up by Israel in the 1980s- allegedly.

[danyboy27]

its not called blackwater anymore, the real name of the company is XE services llc.

[danyboy27]

Given Blackwaters history theres no way this is nothing more than bodyguard work.

Nothing ever good happens in palestine, I would love to see some palestinian victories, its just depressing.


well, XE in the past did nothing more than security and convoy work.

Yes, they are a bunch of trigger-happy peoples, but their main mandates have always been to secure building and equipements.

Its a verry convenient tool for countries who dosnt want to look bad loosing soldiers.

It allow the conflict to perpetuate much longer than usual beccause hey, if some foreigner working for a mercenary company die protecting a building, who will actually care?

there is a verry important number of contractor who died in Iraq over the last 7 year. If those contractor would have been american G.I, the anti-war pressure would have been even more umbearable for the american governent.

[Nolan]

its not called blackwater anymore, the real name of the company is XE services llc.

No one should ever refer to them as "XE." That is what they want. The change was made for PR purposes since Blackwater had become synonymous with 'psycho mercenaries.' Don't enable them. Blackwater is Blackwater and will always be Blackwater.

[TheCultofAbeLincoln]

Who are these Blackwater mercenary scum accountable to ? Their track record in the Middle East is deplorable and their only allegiance apart from themselves is US imperialist interests.

They aren't accountable to US imperialist overlords, they're accountable to whoever is paying them. In this case, the Palestinian Authority.

For a young state such as what the PA is trying to become, the use of mercenaries makes sense. It costs a lot to train, equip, house, feed, provide medical services for, and finally pay soldiers. By using blackwater the Palestinians can pay a set fee and cut them when they are no longer needed. Also, losing a Blackwater mercenary is much less damaging than a soldier you have put an invsetment in (kind of like how US slaveowners would use Irish immigrants for truly danegerous work, like loading cotton on their back and up the plank to load on a ship. The slave is an investment, the irishman costs a dollar a day and is easily replaced). Finally, Blackwater mercenaries may be able to provide training to the young PA forces in urban tactics.


Freelance terrorism legitimised by Zionism. :thumbdown:

How so? Mercenaries have been around for a long time, and this is the PA doing this isn't it?


Nothing ever good happens in palestine, I would love to see some palestinian victories, its just depressing.

There have been victories, the creation of the PA or legalization of the Palestinian flag or, perhaps most of all, the creation of a Palestinian people the world sees.

[RGacky3]

but their main mandates have always been to secure building and equipements.

Its a verry convenient tool for countries who dosnt want to look bad loosing soldiers.

It allow the conflict to perpetuate much longer than usual beccause hey, if some foreigner working for a mercenary company die protecting a building, who will actually care?

there is a verry important number of contractor who died in Iraq over the last 7 year. If those contractor would have been american G.I, the anti-war pressure would have been even more umbearable for the american governent.

Their history is not just as passive security guards, they've been pretty dirty, they're also used for stuff that the government does'nt want to be accountable for.

[Che a chara]

I don't think some people understand the role Blackwater will play. They're not some progressive organisation there to help defend and help the besieged oppressed Palestinians, but to corrupt the Palestine resistance and stabilise the Zionist occupation.

They are not accountable to anyone, not even the PA. Their past atrocities include murders of innocent civillans, theft of goods and weaponry, falsifying evidence and sabotage.

This is just a another provocation for war and it's continuation which only serves Zionism.

[ComradeMan]

I don't think some people understand the role Blackwater will play. They're not some progressive organisation there to help defend and help the besieged oppressed Palestinians, but to corrupt the Palestine resistance and stabilise the Zionist occupation.

They are not accountable to anyone, not even the PA. Their past atrocities include murders of innocent civillans, theft of goods and weaponry, falsifying evidence and sabotage.

This is just a another provocation for war and it's continuation which only serves Zionism.

Do you have sources? Or any other information...

(Said in a non-sarcastic way).

[TheCultofAbeLincoln]

Quarterback, you make it sound like the Palestinians are signing over their protection to the vandals. These are professional mercenaries who work for pay, not pillage and plunder. Along with that, they are not being put into a warzone with no oversight like they were in Iraq. In that case it became entirely plausible that they would begin taking matters into their own hands, here they will be under much more surveillance.

Lastly, did anyone in the US forces give a shit as to what blackwater was doing in Iraq? Until the media got involved, I doubt it. This is a different situation entirely.

Anyways, here's one opinion:




In an apparent vote of confidence in the capabilities of the much-maligned American security firm Blackwater, Palestinian leader Mahmoud Abbas has reportedly indicated he would like to hire the agency to protect him from internal threats.

Blackwater has received bad press over the past two years as a result of the strong-hand tactics of its agents operating in Iraq.

Following the downfall of Saddam Hussein's regime, Muslim terrorists launched a brutal and murderous campaign against American contractors helping to rebuild Iraq. Fed up with the killings, companies involved in Iraq turned to Blackwater and other security firms to protect their personnel.

Creating deterrence through the use of force, Blackwater and its competitors have managed to all but eliminate the threat to those they are hired to protect.
While the use of such force is often difficult for the American public to stomach, Middle East officials recognize its effectiveness in a region where force is often the only language that is understood.




http://www.israeltoday.co.il/default.aspx?tabid=178&nid=15282
They do have a point. After Hama, there weren't exactly liberation movements lining up to take on Assad for example.

[Che a chara]

Do you have sources? Or any other information...

(Said in a non-sarcastic way).

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009/08/08/informants-accuse-blackwater-founder-murder-crimes/

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/middle-east/blackwater-faces-war-crimes-inquiry-after-killings-in-iraq-396686.html

http://www.thenation.com/article/blackwater-founder-implicated-murder

http://www.truth-out.org/senate-panel-blasts-blackwater-over-theft-assault-weapons-civilian-deaths57171

^^^30 seconds search on google ^^^ I'm sure more can be fished out .....

[TheCultofAbeLincoln]

Wait, I thought we were talking about the Palestinians hiring blackwater, not the Israelis. I think the Israelis would be more inclined to hire Israeli security forces...

[ComradeMan]

Wait, I thought we were talking about the Palestinians hiring blackwater, not the Israelis. I think the Israelis would be more inclined to hire Israeli security forces...

Well you should know by now that even if someone farted in Israel-Palestine it would be a Mossad/Zionist plot.:rolleyes:

It's like another thread I saw on the main board, the Israeli government were getting Facebook to take down anti-arab hate groups and the comment below the OP.... "zionist bullshit". :confused:

Some anti-zionists are seriously become too hysterical and downright stupid to be taken seriously at all which is of course detrimental to the greater issues at stake.

[TC]

Given that blackwater are full of christian crusader types I can only imagine how this could turn out.

[ComradeMan]

Given that blackwater are full of christian crusader types I can only imagine how this could turn out.

That's a bit silly.

[Nolan]

That's a bit silly.

Well the founder was a fundie. I don't know about the organization as a whole though.

[gorillafuck]

Finally.
:confused: As gacky said, finally what?

[Jazzratt]

Who are these Blackwater mercenary scum accountable to ? Shareholders.

Unfettered capitalism is wonderful in that way.

[RGacky3]

Shareholders.


Actually nowerdays, not them really anymore, pretty much mainly just the executives.