Obama eyeing Internet IDs

[CynicalIdealist]

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-501465_162-20027837-501465.html

Well, fuck.

[Tablo]

I'm speechless.. if everyone has internet IDs it's unlikely RevLeft would last long.

[CynicalIdealist]

A friend just told me that he had heard the title of the article was sensationalist. In any case, this sounds pretty bad.

[Tablo]

Still, the idea is awful and could certainly lead to the end of the internet we know and love(though it is slowly going downhill as it is).

[ÑóẊîöʼn]

lol the UK government can't even get real-life IDs off the ground.

[Impulse97]

If he does this I'm moving to Canada. Dammit even the Democrats are moving towards Fascism.:hammersickle::che::hammersickle:

[Magón]

If he does this I'm moving to Canada. Dammit even the Democrats are moving towards Fascism.:hammersickle::che::hammersickle:

They're all Imperialistic and Capitalist, they just come from different angles of that spectrum. (Rep. & Dems I mean.)

[Rafiq]

If this were to happen, we must spam, troll, and cause chaos throughout the internet, come with me, comrades, let us inflame the stupidity within!

[Tablo]

Fortunately this is one of those things that most the internet can agree on.

[ExUnoDisceOmnes]

Hmm... something like this should give the US government unprecedented power to monitor any dissidents...

If this is going to happen, I'd like to recommend that all US leftist groups immediately begin to mobilize protest efforts. It's unacceptable that this sort of thing is taking place.

On a side note, what do you think will happen to sites like RevLeft? Will being a member endanger an individual/put them under the eye of national security?

[FreeEire]

On a side note, what do you think will happen to sites like RevLeft? Will being a member endanger an individual/put them under the eye of national security?
Absolutely, your already there. This would just make it a lot easier and take less resources and there would be no denials since you would be certified as that person.

[Lunatic Concept]

This is a complete disgrace. And the thing is, if you guys adopt this, I assume the rest of us will be forced to? :confused: As in you couldnt divide the internet that much from people who are ID'd and people who are not. :(

[FreeEire]

This is a complete disgrace. And the thing is, if you guys adopt this, I assume the rest of us will be forced to? :confused: As in you couldnt divide the internet that much from people who are ID'd and people who are not. :(

That would be a concern, however I'm sure the EU is already keeping a watchful eye on this. They currently have a bill passing through its Parliament to allow for pre-packaging of internet services, which some believe will limit the number and range of sites available to customers.

The only positive thing is that there are thousands of intelligent and dedicated programmers and software developers who will most likely find a way to circumvent restrictions or spoof certifications.

[¿Que?]

The only positive thing is that there are thousands of intelligent and dedicated programmers and software developers who will most likely find a way to circumvent restrictions or spoof certifications.
Basically this. Although given that it's a federal thing, circumventing these ID's might come with serious repercussions should you get caught...I'm thinking something like what would happen if you forged a driver's license.

[ÑóẊîöʼn]

Basically this. Although given that it's a federal thing, circumventing these ID's might come with serious repercussions should you get caught...I'm thinking something like what would happen if you forged a driver's license.

Difference is, there aren't any internet cops patrolling the information superhighways that can pull you over and ask to see a licence. Enforcing the law is hard enough when people aren't capable of rewriting the rules.

[FreeEire]

Difference is, there aren't any internet cops patrolling the information superhighways that can pull you over and ask to see a licence. Enforcing the law is hard enough when people aren't capable of rewriting the rules.
Exactly. It would depend on how the system is structured and if they're going to put in any real oversights other than give verification companies (like Verisign) people's money and hope for the best.

[Political_Chucky]

WTF MAN....WE NEED TO TAKE BACK OUR INTERNET! The internets the only "free" thing we got.:confused:

[blake 3:17]

^^ Thanks Chucky?

We need to understand all this stuff from a the perspective of the dominant classes and the State -- all of this identifying and fingering is part of the process. PIN numbers, pass codes, FaceBook and Twitter are all about propping up privacy while inviting an invasion of privacy.


Difference is, there aren't any internet cops patrolling the information superhighways that can pull you over and ask to see a licence. Enforcing the law is hard enough when people aren't capable of rewriting the rules.

Following the WikiLeaks crackdown, and suggestions from the US and G8, who knows? National and international bodies are going to start cracking down harder, and with more precision, than they have in the past.

From the histories of espionage I've read, most of these folks are grossly incompetent and are stuck in tit-for-tat models.

For now, what Obama is proposing will be near impossible to impose for several years, but it needs to be fought ASAP.

[Nothing Human Is Alien]

They basically have "internet IDs" in South Korea. You need your national ID number to log onto facebook-like sites, for example.

[southernmissfan]

We definitely should strive to preserve what little freedom and privacy we have left on the internet. As someone mentioned earlier, the good thing is the most of the internet shares the opinion and shouldn't be hard to build a fairly large opposition.

[erupt]

I think this might be the only thing we and the cum rags at Stormfront will ever have in common.

[¿Que?]

Difference is, there aren't any internet cops patrolling the information superhighways that can pull you over and ask to see a license. Enforcing the law is hard enough when people aren't capable of rewriting the rules.
Yeah, but they could develop software cops. You don't necessarily need a human being to monitor what someone is doing on the internet. I'm think at first it will be fairly easy to forge your identity or whatnot, but once the ISP's get involved, who knows?