Any Greeks here?

[Jack]

Anyone here a member of a fraternity or sorority or some other kind of Greek Life organization?

TEP pledge here.

[Fawkes]

lame

[Tablo]

ANTI-GREEK

Nah, I seriously don't give a fuck. My campus is infested with Greeks though.

[John "Eh" MacDonald]

I never understood that whole Greek fraternity thing you Americans have. anyone care to explain the origins so i don't have to look them up myself.

As far as I'm aware Canada doesn't even have fraternities. I'm still in high school though, so what would I know.

[Jack]

lame

Have fun being alone bro.


ANTI-GREEK

Nah, I seriously don't give a fuck. My campus is infested with Greeks though.

You go to Alabama, right? That place is like 80% Greek I've heard.


I never understood that whole Greek fraternity thing you Americans have. anyone care to explain the origins so i don't have to look them up myself.

As far as I'm aware Canada doesn't even have fraternities. I'm still in high school though, so what would I know.

There are some Canadian fraternities, just not many.

[Tablo]

You go to Alabama, right? That place is like 80% Greek I've heard.
The Greek community is bigger than most schools, but there are more non-greeks. In my experience the non-greeks host the better parties too.

[Mindtoaster]

Yep, I'm a lambda chi alpha

I seriously thought I would probably be the only Greek on RevLeft haha

[Jack]

Yep, I'm a lambda chi alpha

I seriously thought I would probably be the only Greek on RevLeft haha


http://profile.ak.fbcdn.net/hprofile-ak-snc4/hs174.ash2/41794_9954085506_7849_n.jpg

Had to.

There's no Lambda Chi chapter at my school, and basically the only frats worth joining are TEP and Phi Delta Theta.

[Kléber]

to each their own, but i never saw the point. parties and women are easy enough to find without joining a feudal guild. no offense. a lot of fraternities do some sort of progressive activism though which deserves respect.

[Os Cangaceiros]

to each their own, but i never saw the point. parties and women are easy enough to find without joining a feudal guild. no offense. a lot of fraternities do some sort of progressive activism though which deserves respect.

I pretty much agree with this.

[Black Sheep]

I am a legit greek, born and raised in the glorious aegean sea islands.

You are frauds mysticists wannabes, who are excited by our bizarre magican alphabet.

[Fawkes]

Have fun being alone bro.


:lol::lol::lol:

[Jack]

I am a legit greek, born and raised in the glorious aegean sea islands.

You are frauds mysticists wannabes, who are excited by our bizarre magican alphabet.

:laugh:



to each their own, but i never saw the point. parties and women are easy enough to find without joining a feudal guild. no offense. a lot of fraternities do some sort of progressive activism though which deserves respect.

It's about more than parties and women, though that's a very important aspect...

It's also about brotherhood and always having people who have your back. When you need a place to go, your house is always there, when you need support, your brothers are always there.

That being said, the parties and women are alot easier when it's your place they're at.

[Tablo]

I am a legit greek, born and raised in the glorious aegean sea islands.

You are frauds mysticists wannabes, who are excited by our bizarre magican alphabet.
Please teach us your ways great one!

[F9]

I am a legit greek, born and raised in the glorious aegean sea islands.


im sorry:(

[Mindtoaster]

Had to.

There's no Lambda Chi chapter at my school, and basically the only frats worth joining are TEP and Phi Delta Theta.

Yeeeah, most of our chapters besides mine and a few others are filled with total douche bags anyway

My schools about sixty percent greek so theres really a fraternity/sorority for every type of person. I haven't heard of TEP or phi delta theta before, maybe because I'm from the South though. Fraternities are a really big deal down here but theres only a few major ones (Lambda Chi, Kappa Alpha, Sigma Alpha Epsilon and to a lesser extent Sigma Nu and PIKE)

[Jack]

PDT is from the South, and big nationwide. TEP is small, it's shunk down to like 10 chapters in the last 10 years, my own chapter operates underground and off campus (got kicked off last year), and the other only large one at Florida State had to change its name because they got caught beating their pledges.'

Their site: http://www.uftep.com/

I think they're still going by something like Alpha Betas or something like that as a local.

We have SAE and Sigma Nu here. Of couse SAE=Sexual Assault Expected, and Sigma Nu is uh......Sigma Nu....

[Widerstand]

fraternities are reactionary as fuck, how the fuck does a leftist end up in one?

edit: Oh of course, a LENINIST!

[Tablo]

PDT is from the South, and big nationwide. TEP is small, it's shunk down to like 10 chapters in the last 10 years, my own chapter operates underground and off campus (got kicked off last year), and the other only large one at Florida State had to change its name because they got caught beating their pledges.'

Their site: http://www.uftep.com/

I think they're still going by something like Alpha Betas or something like that as a local.

We have SAE and Sigma Nu here. Of couse SAE=Sexual Assault Expected, and Sigma Nu is uh......Sigma Nu....
Why did your chapter get kicked off campus?

[Jack]

Hazing, a member OD'd, and basically the cops were at the school every weekend.

[Jack]

fraternities are reactionary as fuck, how the fuck does a leftist end up in one?

edit: Oh of course, a LENINIST!

u mad?

[Widerstand]

u mad?

maybe you get some weird kick out of being around neoliberals/misogynists/borderline fascists, I don't.

[Jack]

maybe you get some weird kick out of being around neoliberals/misogynists/borderline fascists, I don't.

:laugh:

So mad....getting socially rejected is tough bro.

Anyways, maybe you should actually look at what TEP is, and realize it was one of the first fraternities to be multi racial and multi religious. I don't know where you're getting "neoliberals" from or "misogynists", but k.

[gorillafuck]

No I am not a member of a drunken young republicans club.

[Tablo]

Hazing, a member OD'd, and basically the cops were at the school every weekend.
Sounds like my kind of frat!

[gorillafuck]

:laugh:

So mad....getting socially rejected is tough bro.
It's kind of funny that you act like this because around where I am (which is a college town) people often harass fratboys while driving by and a common way to make fun of someone is to call them a bro or to mimic a bro when you imitate them.

I used to dislike fratboys (and I still mimic them to be funny) but I don't anymore. It's dumb to dislike them.

[Tablo]

I always talk a frat kid to mess with my greek roommate. I don't have any actual hate towards frat kids though.

[Mindtoaster]

maybe you get some weird kick out of being around neoliberals/misogynists/borderline fascists, I don't.

Yeah, living in Germany I bet you're quite the expert on the whole frat scene.

[Jack]

It's kind of funny that you act like this because around where I am (which is a college town) people often harass fratboys while driving by and a common way to make fun of someone is to call them a bro or to mimic a bro when you imitate them.

http://i56.tinypic.com/1111hk6.jpg

Busy not caring. :D

[gorillafuck]

Yeah I also don't see how fraternities are borderline fascists. They generally get conservatives if it's an expensive frat but I mean it's not even like they're THAT conservative.


Busy not caring. :D
So chill, bro!:laugh:

[Jack]

Yeah I also don't see how fraternities are borderline fascists. They generally get conservatives if it's an expensive frat but I mean it's not even like they're THAT conservative.


So chill, bro!

Just a chay sesh, bro.

[gorillafuck]

wicked chill.

Wanna get hammered and listen to the Dave Matthews Band, bro?

[Jack]

wicked chill.

Wanna get hammered and listen to the Dave Matthews Band, bro?

Those are like 2006 bros, bro. The ones who wore sandals, popped their collars, and wore plaid shorts.

More like:

Want to get hammered, put on our croakies, get laid and listen to dubstep?

[Raúl Duke]

ehh...the fraternities in my university are kind of lame and don't have their own houses. I've only been to a sigma chi-associated party once. The kind of people who go to fraternities in my university are not exactly the people I normally/regularly interact with. There's also the issue that you got to pay and I find it ridiculous, especially for our university's fraternities.

I probably know more people who go to a sorority than a fraternity, there's probably a tad bit more diversity of people in those than in our fraternities.

[Fawkes]

I forgot that social rejection is not being willing to look as cool as possible to impress a bunch of seniors so they let you in to their rockin little social club so you can put a few greek letters on your shirt or hat and try to use that to make up for your lack of an ability to socialize with girls and throw a good party with friends you made on your own, not through your dumb little fake brotherhood... and of course your own apparent inability to back yourself up in a fight.

[revolution inaction]

what the fuck are fraternities, some king of club?

[Tablo]

what the fuck are fraternities, some king of club?
Yeah, they are clubs that require paid membership and exist on the campus of American universities.

[Jack]

I forgot that social rejection is not being willing to look as cool as possible to impress a bunch of seniors so they let you in to their rockin little social club so you can put a few greek letters on your shirt or hat and try to use that to make up for your lack of an ability to socialize with girls and throw a good party with friends you made on your own, not through your dumb little fake brotherhood... and of course your own apparent inability to back yourself up in a fight.

y u mad tho?

[Jack]

what the fuck are fraternities, some king of club?

A fraternity is a brotherhood of college students, who many times live together (in college), there are secret rituals, codes, and organizations, and generally being in a fraternity increases your chances of being awesome later in life (48% of US presidents were in fraternities, while only 3% of the US population has ever been in one, for instance).

Of course, after the pledging and rituals (and during) there is unlimited alcohol, women, and parties.


I forgot that social rejection is not being willing to look as cool as possible to impress a bunch of seniors so they let you in to their rockin little social club so you can put a few greek letters on your shirt or hat and try to use that to make up for your lack of an ability to socialize with girls and throw a good party with friends you made on your own, not through your dumb little fake brotherhood... and of course your own apparent inability to back yourself up in a fight.

Generally, people who actually hate frats (and aren't just independents, noone cares if you're an independent, by the way) have a problem with being socially rejected, or just aren't cool or popular enough to even know anyone in a fraternity on a personal level. That's why I'm not going to try to address your pseudo-superiority complex about Greeks.

[Jack]

ehh...the fraternities in my university are kind of lame and don't have their own houses. I've only been to a sigma chi-associated party once. The kind of people who go to fraternities in my university are not exactly the people I normally/regularly interact with. There's also the issue that you got to pay and I find it ridiculous, especially for our university's fraternities.

Yeah, I understand that. My school doesn't give fraternities on campus housing, but most frats own a house off campus where some of the brothers will live. Most of the dues basically go to alcohol and other expenses, though, since the brothers who actually live in the house pay for it.

[Fawkes]

and generally being in a fraternity increases your chances of being awesome later in life (48% of US presidents were in fraternities, while only 3% of the US population has ever been in one, for instance).


Yeah, presidents are awesome.


y u mad tho?

Generally, people who actually hate frats (and aren't just independents, noone cares if you're an independent, by the way) have a problem with being socially rejected, or just aren't cool or popular enough to even know anyone in a fraternity on a personal level. That's why I'm not going to try to address your pseudo-superiority complex about Greeks.

It's more the other way around, people who have a fear of being rejected join some "brotherhood" to give em a sense of belonging. I don't hate fraternities, I hate most frat boys cause they're the same trans/homophobic motherfuckers that harass/attack me on a daily basis.

[Sentinel]

and generally being in a fraternity increases your chances of being awesome later in life (48% of US presidents were in fraternities, while only 3% of the US population has ever been in one, for instance).What the fuck. What are you doing on this website really? You do realise it's a fucking worker's movement site right?

Are you even a leftist?

[gorillafuck]

A fraternity is a brotherhood of college students, who many times live together (in college), there are secret rituals, codes, and organizations, and generally being in a fraternity increases your chances of being awesome later in life (48% of US presidents were in fraternities, while only 3% of the US population has ever been in one, for instance).
So by "awesome" you mean have high status and be powerful?

High status seekers is the reason I used to hate fraternities. They're notorious breeding grounds for politicians and bourgeoisie.


Generally, people who actually hate frats (and aren't just independents, noone cares if you're an independent, by the way) have a problem with being socially rejected, or just aren't cool or popular enough to even know anyone in a fraternity on a personal level. That's why I'm not going to try to address your pseudo-superiority complex about Greeks.I don't hate frats anymore (I already said that but I'll repeat it), but that just sounds like insecurity on your part. I mean, anyone who doesn't like your frat must be jealous, right?

[Jack]

What the fuck. What are you doing on this website really? You do realise it's a fucking worker's movement site right?

Are you even a leftist?

Ah, yes, the old "are you even a leftist" shit, I missed that.


So by "awesome" you mean have high status and be powerful?

High status seekers is the reason I used to hate fraternities. They're notorious breeding grounds for politicians and bourgeoisie.


Eh, so is college in general. But the thing is that because so many powerful people are fraternity members, it makes it easier to get a job if you were a fraternity member (especially if you were part of the same fraternity. People like Sentinel can scream "bourgeois" all they like or claim I'm not a leftist, but people have to eat.


I don't hate frats anymore (I already said that but I'll repeat it), but that just sounds like insecurity on your part. I mean, anyone who doesn't like your frat must be jealous, right?

I said before that nobody cares if you're independent, but if you absolutley hate fraternities and fraternity members, there's obviously a reason more than that you don't want to be a part of one.

[Tablo]

Obviously when he was talking about US presidents and being awesome he was joking. Why are you guys being so serious in chit-chat? :confused:

[gorillafuck]

I said before that nobody cares if you're independent, but if you absolutley hate fraternities and fraternity members, there's obviously a reason more than that you don't want to be a part of one.No, that was really the only reason. Nothing to do with social rejection, I don't get rejected socially.

[Political_Chucky]

I give jack a week and hes banned. Place your bets right here! ** ** * * ** ** *

[Raúl Duke]

Yeah, I understand that. My school doesn't give fraternities on campus housing, but most frats own a house off campus where some of the brothers will live. Most of the dues basically go to alcohol and other expenses, though, since the brothers who actually live in the house pay for it.

We have a similar situation, although not sure if any dues go towards any alcohol.
Although our university is probably newer and the greek life isn't yet standing out.
The people running it I guess aren't ambitious or whatever. However, I don't really know much.


High status seekers is the reason I used to hate fraternities. They're notorious breeding grounds for politicians and bourgeoisie.

Well, most high status seekers in my universities tend to be Greeks who study political science. I don't trust poli sci majors.

I've thought about maybe joining one but none in my university attract me. I'm probably not their target audience anyway.

[Widerstand]

Yeah, living in Germany I bet you're quite the expert on the whole frat scene.

I am not sure if you are aware, but we do have fraternities in Germany, and from what Jack posted in this thread they sound exactly like the ones in the US. There is also a wealth of leftist literature attacking them, you know, because they're pretty much authoritarian sects with all their codes and traditions and shit, because they are often little more than an elitist circle jerk where the new boss can meet the old boss, because most of them disallow women, have extensive rituals to prevent "effemination" and actually only regard women as something that can be fucked at a party (which of course, is not a misogynist attitude, right?), oh and of course because most people who actually are there are neoliberals or far right trash (which even the German gov recognizes as a threat).

Now of course I'm willing to listen to how an organization with similar structures and goals attracts drastically different types of persons in the US.

[Wanted Man]

We have fraternities too, but they tend to be mixed-gender and the name that they have here would be more accurately translated as "student associations".

There are different kinds. There are the so-called "corpora" which have hazing rituals and all that stuff for people who can't find friends in a new city unless those "friends" make you clean their toilets and eat their shit. Basically the same kind of sad bastards as Jack here. They are almost without exception elitist pricks. Everyone else basically laughs at them.

In the past, they were breeding grounds for powerful people, and being in a fraternity was a great way to end up in the old boys' network. This still exists to some extent, and class and privilege play a massive role in the corpora. Still, anyone can join them, and most are now so big that it's simply impossible for all but a few of them to actually get good jobs. All the others are aspiring middle-class who still think the fraternity is a road to success.

That aside, there are also plenty of cool student associations who just provide a cool way to socialise and have fun in your university time. There are casual and even alternative ones. I'm not in one myself, but the people I know who are in there are usually the types who have to support themselves through college by working hard, rather than being paid by mum and dad. Nothing but respect for them.

[Jack]

There are different kinds. There are the so-called "corpora" which have hazing rituals and all that stuff for people who can't find friends in a new city unless those "friends" make you clean their toilets and eat their shit. Basically the same kind of sad bastards as Jack here. They are almost without exception elitist pricks. Everyone else basically laughs at them.

Uh.....yeaaaaahhhhh. This isn't my first semester here, I have alot of friends, if I was pledging because I was a loser.....I wouldn't want to be in a fraternity that accepts losers and social rejects.

[Widerstand]

Uh.....yeaaaaahhhhh. This isn't my first semester here, I have alot of friends, if I was pledging because I was a loser.....I wouldn't want to be in a fraternity that accepts losers and social rejects.

Enlighten me, who are these "losers and social rejects" you keep talking about?

[Jack]

Enlighten me, who are these "losers and social rejects" you keep talking about?

Nice job not understanding context, bro.


for people who can't find friends in a new city

>Implying someone who joined one of these organizations had no friends, thus making them a loser or a social reject (if it's not their first semester).

That's what I was responding to.

[Widerstand]

Nice job not understanding context, bro.



>Implying someone who joined one of these organizations had no friends, thus making them a loser or a social reject (if it's not their first semester).

That's what I was responding to.

So someone who "has no friends" is a "loser" or "social reject"? I'm just really hard trying to understand what you mean by these terms.

[9]

Generally, people who actually hate frats (and aren't just independents, noone cares if you're an independent, by the way) have a problem with being socially rejected, or just aren't cool or popular enough to even know anyone in a fraternity on a personal level.

LOL what are you, twelve-years-old? :lol:

[Fawkes]

"YO BROS! IF YOU CAN DRINK 25 BEERS AND CAN PACK A CAN OF SKOAL IN ONE NIGHT THEN YOUR MY FUCKING ROOM MATE BRO! WERE LISTENING TO NICKLEBACK AND T-PAIN 24 FUCKIN 7! BY THE WAY HOW BIG IS YOUR DICK. NO HOMO BRO! AND DONT BE INTIMIDATED BY MY ROCK HARD BOD ESPECIALLY WHEN WE R IN THE SHOWERS! WERE TOTALLY GUNNA FUCK MAD *****ES. I FUCK 10 DIFFERENT *****ES A WEEK! I CAN BENCH 275 POUNDS 25 TIMES! THATS BASICALLY 3 *****ES IF ONES FAT! IF YOU DONT LIKE FAMILY GUY AND SMOKING SICK BUD OUT OF SODA CANS THEN FUCK YOU MAN! IF YOU LOVE KEYSTONE LIGHT AS MUCH AS ME THEN YOUR MY FUCKIN BRO BRO. IN THE ROOM WE DONT WEAR SHIRTS. WHEN WERE NOT IN THE ROOM WE STILL DONT WEAR SHIRTS. NO SHIRTS NO SHOES NO RULES!!! FTW BRO!!!"

That was an ad for a roommate at my friend's school. This guy is my hero.

[bailey_187]

we dont have this shit at my university

kind of wish we did, im probably at one the worst uni's socially too. not to worry tho, im in London, so me and the team still live that Taylor Gang lifestyle on student nights in Lester Square

i like this Jack guy btw

[bailey_187]

"YO BROS! IF YOU CAN DRINK 25 BEERS AND CAN PACK A CAN OF SKOAL IN ONE NIGHT THEN YOUR MY FUCKING ROOM MATE BRO! WERE LISTENING TO NICKLEBACK AND T-PAIN 24 FUCKIN 7! BY THE WAY HOW BIG IS YOUR DICK. NO HOMO BRO! AND DONT BE INTIMIDATED BY MY ROCK HARD BOD ESPECIALLY WHEN WE R IN THE SHOWERS! WERE TOTALLY GUNNA FUCK MAD *****ES. I FUCK 10 DIFFERENT *****ES A WEEK! I CAN BENCH 275 POUNDS 25 TIMES! THATS BASICALLY 3 *****ES IF ONES FAT! IF YOU DONT LIKE FAMILY GUY AND SMOKING SICK BUD OUT OF SODA CANS THEN FUCK YOU MAN! IF YOU LOVE KEYSTONE LIGHT AS MUCH AS ME THEN YOUR MY FUCKIN BRO BRO. IN THE ROOM WE DONT WEAR SHIRTS. WHEN WERE NOT IN THE ROOM WE STILL DONT WEAR SHIRTS. NO SHIRTS NO SHOES NO RULES!!! FTW BRO!!!"

That was an ad for a roommate at my friend's school. This guy is my hero.

considering my roomate just moved out i may put up an add like this

[Political_Chucky]

we dont have this shit at my university

kind of wish we did, im probably at one the worst uni's socially too. not to worry tho, im in London, so me and the team still live that Taylor Gang lifestyle on student nights in Lester Square

i like this Jack guy btw

From my experience, these fraternities are full of people that are social rejects. At least from highschool. They werent the coolest kids on the block, didn't do too much partying in high school, so once they get into college they feel as if they need to be accepted and the only way for them to get in is to be spanked by an old man with a ping pong slammer repeatedly.

[Mindtoaster]

I am not sure if you are aware, but we do have fraternities in Germany,
Now of course I'm willing to listen to how an organization with similar structures and goals attracts drastically different types of persons in the US.

No. Fraternities are not studentenverbindung. There isn't any *formalized* networking, or sketchy historical connections to 19th century political movements. Alumni aren't formally involved with a fraternity after they graduate from college. Nor are they clubs exclusively for the rich, my entire chapter comes from low to middle income families. Its on the campus of huge SEC universities like Ole Miss that the reputation comes from, and at a college like Ole Miss its not like the fraternities are going to differ much culturally or economically from the rest of the student body anyway.

I joined my fraternity as a freshman because I liked the people in it and because it offered a massive leg up in the social sphere of my university as a new student. Theres probably more socialists in my fraternity then in the student body here as a whole.

[Widerstand]

No. Fraternities are not studentenverbindung.

According to Wikipedia they are similar to Studentenverbindungen, and judging from how they are described in this thread this is very much right. Also judging by how "comrade" Jack here dreams about "success" and becoming a president.


There isn't any *formalized* networking, or sketchy historical connections to 19th century political movements.

Yet according to wikipedia their traditions trace back to the 19th century. And the absence of formalized networking doesn't really constitute an actual absence of networking.


Alumni aren't formally involved with a fraternity after they graduate from college.

You're saying that "old boys" are not involved with the fraternity?



Nor are they clubs exclusively for the rich, my entire chapter comes from low to middle income families.

As far as I'm aware, neither are Studentenverbindungen. As a matter of fact they often provide the cheapest housing on campus, you just have to put up with their bullshit traditions and rituals (and of course the reactionary attitudes of all other members).


Theres probably more socialists in my fraternity then in the student body here as a whole.

This of course does sound strange. Over here leftists (even reformists and soc dems) are in fierce opposition to them.

[bailey_187]

From my experience, these fraternities are full of people that are social rejects. At least from highschool. They werent the coolest kids on the block, didn't do too much partying in high school, so once they get into college they feel as if they need to be accepted and the only way for them to get in is to be spanked by an old man with a ping pong slammer repeatedly.

lol these kind of people are at my univbersity too. its so funny seeing Nerd Gone Wild.

also all these posh public school boy dickheads with their "banter", "chunder" and "LAD" shit. Im like :huh:

[BeerShaman]

All I can say. Lolz?

[Mindtoaster]

According to Wikipedia they are similar to Studentenverbindungen, and judging from how they are described in this thread this is very much right. Also judging by how "comrade" Jack here dreams about "success" and becoming a president.

Honestly the studentenverbindungen sound more similar to secret societies like Skull and Bones than fraternities.

I'm not going to speak for Jack




Yet according to wikipedia their traditions trace back to the 19th century. And the absence of formalized networking doesn't really constitute an actual absence of networking.

A lot of fraternities were founded in the 19th century, but they don't have links to any kind of political movements or ideas like Burschenschaft or religious movements like the Catholic Corps, not publicly or privately (that I know of).

It makes a world of difference that there isn't formalized networking, the alumni aren't active members of the organizations and aren't duty bound to assist actives (which means they rarely ever due) like as in Germany



You're saying that "old boys" are not involved with the fraternity?

Besides the rare donation or offer of advice, they really aren't. Certainly not in any formal sense

And I'm speaking as a former alumni relations officer for my fraternity




As far as I'm aware, neither are Studentenverbindungen. As a matter of fact they often provide the cheapest housing on campus, you just have to put up with their bullshit traditions and rituals (and of course the reactionary attitudes of all other members).

Yes, fraternity housing is slightly cheaper here too. If you don't like the idea of a ritual or traditions then no one is forcing you to join.


This of course does sound strange. Over here leftists (even reformists and soc dems) are in fierce opposition to them.

American Fraternities aren't studentenverbindungen. There isn't anything inherently reactionary about them, besides most of them being all-male. It would be totally pointless for leftists to spend time decrying them. I've never heard of that before over here

[gorillafuck]

This of course does sound strange. Over here leftists (even reformists and soc dems) are in fierce opposition to them.
....why are they even considered an issue to be thought about?:confused:

[Jack]

According to Wikipedia they are similar to Studentenverbindungen, and judging from how they are described in this thread this is very much right. Also judging by how "comrade" Jack here dreams about "success" and becoming a president.

>Wikipedia

Reliable source, bro. Oh and the whole "hurr durr not a leftist, wants to be president", you're making up bullshit and you know it. I was saying that fraternities tend to have powerful alumni, and that will help me get a job later on in life, not that I wanted to be president, idiot.




Yet according to wikipedia their traditions trace back to the 19th century. And the absence of formalized networking doesn't really constitute an actual absence of networking.

Yes, they were founded in the 19th century largely (mine being founded in the early 20th century), that doesn't make them Austrian pan German neo fascist organizations.....that makes them social organizations that were founded in the 19th century.

[Who?]

Fraternities are for wusses, I'm a member of Skull and fuckin' Bones.

http://iamnotarapperispit.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/11/president-bush-yale-skull-and-bones.jpg

[Political_Chucky]

Fraternities are for wusses, I'm a member of Skull and fuckin' Bones.

http://iamnotarapperispit.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/11/president-bush-yale-skull-and-bones.jpg

HAHAHAH George fucking Costanza

[Spawn of Stalin]

I think people should get jobs based on their individual merits and how much they can offer to the company they are applying to, not what club they were a member of as a youngster. I'm not knocking people who join fraternities, but I'd sooner join the Crips.

[Who?]

When it comes to fraternities I pretty much agree with this:


to each their own, but i never saw the point. parties and women are easy enough to find without joining a feudal guild. no offense. a lot of fraternities do some sort of progressive activism though which deserves respect.