Rap Hip-Hop

[Saint-Just]

Since quite a few people like Tupac, what other rap artists is everyone in to?

[Legends]

Not into them but I liked songs by them

Missy Elliot
Nas only one song
Eminem
Jay Z and Beyonce Knowles, Crazy In love
Wu Tang only one or two

[Danton]

Iv'e spouted off lists before of my old school favourites...Schooly D, Flash, Melle Mell, Afrika Bambaata, etc...

In the corner for England right now has to be Roots Manuva - he's a bad bitty, and the Cuban "Orishas" are amazing. U.S wise Gangstarr's new thing is nice and the Roots latest was cool. Hip Hop's in a weird place right now, most of it is pure pop, Hip pop if you will, fuck all the bling bling... Let's go back to the daisyage....

[(*]

Pac is Cool...I'll also listen to some KRS-One

Oh yeah, who can forget "Fight the Power" Public Enemy

[Danton]

Not me...1989 a number, another summer, get down! Sound of the funky drummer etc... ahh Rioja...

[Hampton]

I've been listening to these guys a lot lately:

Tupac
Tech N9ne
Dead Prez
Talib Kweli
Mos Def
K-Os
The Roots
Blackalicious
Little Brother
Dilated Peoples
Deltron 3030
Prophet Posse
Nas
NWA
Bone Thugs
OutKast
Big L

[Inti]

Here is a few more,

Los Tetas (Chile)
Tiro de Gracia, (Chile)
Makiza (Chile)
Mecate (El Salvador)
Orishas (Cuba)
Ari
Jota Mayuscula
Profezhya
Trovadores de la Lirica Perdida
Violadores del Verso
Tote
Vico C
7 Notas 7 Colores
MC Ceja
SFDK
Frank T
VKR
La Mala Rodriguez
Advance Patrol
Beatnutz
Control Machete
Cypress Hill
Non Phixion
The Sweatshop Union
Organised Konfusion

And the list goes on, but its mostly hip hop in spanish, thats how I learned spanish :D

[canikickit]

The video for Roots Manuva's song is wicked! Pity I forget the name of the song....the one where he goes back to his old school for the sports day.

I used to listen to nothing but hip hop, then I heard too much reggae, and hip hop sounds kind of immature to my ears now. I prefer real instruments, and analogue recordings.

I was a big fan of anything released on Rawkus. They were the men.

[Fidelbrand]

Cypress Hill
90 cents
J.P. Lacroisz
Eminem
Wu Tang

any one remembers Kriss Kross ? The 2 kids with jerseys & pants wore back to front~~~~~ hahah... :lol: They are quite cool actually~

[Xvall]

Dead Prez
The Coup

That's all I can think of right now.

[Palmares]

Originally posted by [email protected] 28 2003, 05:32 AM
The video for Roots Manuva's song is wicked! Pity I forget the name of the song....the one where he goes back to his old school for the sports day.

'Witness the fitness (1 hope)'

For me:

Nas - most of his stuff
KRS-One
Public Enemy
Wu-tang - First and last album
Eminem (last album and 8 mile)
NWA
50 Cent (two songs)
Roots Manuva

...

maybe some others I can't tink of... :blink:

[Rob]

Wu-Tang
NWA
Public Enemy
Pac
Dre
Snoop
Ice-T
Ice Cube

[EneME]

I dont usually like rap anymore because it's all about Bling-Bling...
I can't stand whats out there right now...
But what I do enjoy is..

50 cents somewhat
the roots
dre
outkast
black eyed peas
control machete
tupac
tribe called quest
pharcyde

[Danton]

"Witness the fitness", Cthenthar is correct...I can't think of a chunkier crunchier Hip Hop tune from 2001 that can match it... I like the way he raps about beans on toast...and jerk chicken and fish while sounding like the meanest mother in town... Most U.S stuff is complacent these days, even Rawkus went off the boil.

What about turntabalists? Peanut butter wolf, Shadow, scratch perverts etc...

Inti; do you have any more info on the Chilean rap? Album names etc...

[RebeldePorLaPAZ]

Nas
B.I.G.
Tupac
Busta Rhymes
Snoop Dogg
K-OS
Eminem
50 Cent
Bone Thugs
112
Pharrell
Carl Thomas
Tego Calderon (Puerto Rico)
Hector y Tito (Puerto Rico)
Don Omar (Puerto Rico)
Magnate y Valentino (Puerto Rico)

[Eastside Revolt]

KRS 1
Loop Troop
Eminem
M - 1
Stickman
Everlast
Big Boi
Andre 3000
Braintax
Mr. Cheeks
Redman
Method Man
Rza
Gza
Raekwon
Killa Preist
B Real
Tupac

That's all I can think of right now.

Oh yeah, and I almost forgot the ol' dirty Bza

[Jesus Christ]

Jurassic 5
The Roots
Ludacris

[synthesis]

Hmm... I'm sure this is missing a few.

Aesop Rock
Deltron 3030/Gorillaz
Dead Prez
Dr. Octagon
RJD2
Living Legends
Wu-Tang Clan
The Coup
Blackalicious
Lifesavas
Freestyle Fellowship
Cypress Hill
Atmosphere
Jurassic 5
Nas
Swollen Members
The Roots
KRS-One
The Transplants (do they count?)
Zion I
Cannibal Ox
Outkast
Rappin 4-Tay
Company Flow
Snoop Dogg
Black Star

I think that's about it. I like individual artists from the groups I've mentioned, of course. I prefer Talib Kweli to Mos Def, I think Murs is the best Living Legend, Aceyalone (of Freestyle Fellowship) rocks, and I don't really prefer any of the Wu-Tang members, they all have their own appeal.

Let's see... The people on the list who I've seen live are: Del, Aceyalone, Lifesavas, Blackalicious, Talib Kweli, Rahzel, Dead Prez, and Atmosphere.

Oh, and I left out all the Italian rap (http://www.italianrap.com) I listen to; in all likelihood, none of you will have heard of any of them.

[MiNdGaMe]

i'm not a big hip-hop fan,
but Dead Prez is pretty good, excellent lyrics and thought-provoking

[Inti]

Originally posted by [email protected] 28 2003, 11:12 AM
"Witness the fitness", Cthenthar is correct...I can't think of a chunkier crunchier Hip Hop tune from 2001 that can match it... I like the way he raps about beans on toast...and jerk chicken and fish while sounding like the meanest mother in town... Most U.S stuff is complacent these days, even Rawkus went off the boil.

What about turntabalists? Peanut butter wolf, Shadow, scratch perverts etc...

Inti; do you have any more info on the Chilean rap? Album names etc...
Danton.. As for TdG the albums I have heard of is: Ser Humano, Decision and Retorno de misericordia... I have only heard one of makiza and it was called aerolineas de makiza or something like that

[FatFreeMilk]

Everybody's lists kick ass except for the few with Eminem and fiddy cent on em. EWW! :P Nobody has lil jon & the east side boys or Big Tymers. Yeah so what, I like the mainstream too :P Almost anything that makes you shake ur ass is good :D But of course, wholsome lyrics are important too.

[Danton]

Cheers Inti...I'm getting into the Chilean stuff, rap sounds great in Spanish...What's the name of that Chilean woman I saw in concert earlier this year? Shit, was it Suzanna or something? BaH fuck it...anyway she was blooming marvelous...

FFM; I concur - Feminem & 50 "EWWW"...

[Pingu]

i dont like rap hip hop, i dont like hip hop at all :P
some artists are even tools of capitalism :angry: :P

[FistFullOfSteel]

like all rap/hip hop :P

[Umoja]

Dialated Peoples
Dead Prez
Last Poets (Do they count as rap?)
The Coup
Black Starr and High Tek
A Tribe Called Quest
Brand Nubian
GRANDMASTER FLASH

[Inti]

Danton: Tell me if you remember the name of that chilean rapper. There arent too many out there that I know of. Im fascinated by rap in spanish, but mostly in latin american. I know of some good from spain as well, as Falsa Alarma and Nach Scratch.. :D Try them as well if you like it in spanish. Where are you from Danton?

[Danton]

Inti;

I'm in London mostly but travel and work in Spain quite a bit.... She's not a rap artist but "Susana Baca" is who I meant - she has a very funky album..Now that I think of it she may be Peruvian not Chilean...Afro-Peruvian...Check her out if you like funky/soulful beats...

Yeah I'm definatley with you, Spanish language Rap adds a new dimension to Hip Hop which it desperatley needs...

Umoja; You know it...The last poets are originators in the artform...Shit, your list is tight bruv...Respec...

[Umoja]

Yeah, Last Poets never get the credit they deserve. And thanks Danton, glad to know someone likes the list.

[the SovieT]

I almost only listen to Portuguese rap..

but i do enjoy Dead Prez..
also Primitive Reason make some good rap (even though theyr not rappers nor anything like that..)

[Inti]

Ahhhhhh, Susana Baca:D Yes, I know about her.. I like that music too.. My wife is Peruvian and I like most of the things there. A music style called musica criolla is really cool.. I found some music last night that I hadnt heard before and I have to add them to my list.. Nach Scratch, Chojin and Falsa Alarma.. :D I had almost stopped to listen to rap in english before I saw this thread and some others in here.. Of english speaking rap I favor The Sweatshop Union and Dead Prez.. But Im almost dying in trying to get some music in Swahili, a group called Kalamashaka. I really like the beat..

[Danton]

I hear you, I'm trying to get hold of everything you mentioned...I'm also loving the Afro-beat stuff and music out of Nigeria and Mali...Even heard some dope shit from Palestine.... I'm not at home and my memory sucks, can't remeber any names right now...

[Hampton]

Immortal Technique came out with a hot ass album recently.

http://www.viperrecords.com/

[Umoja]

African-Rap is great, at least what little I've listened to. Kalamashaka, and Ghana Obrafo are insane.

The only Spanish rap I've ever listened to is Control Machete, most of the Spanish music I listen to are from the guest of the show "El Gordo y la flaca", because they are generally hot Dominicanas :Drool:.

[celtopunk]

In no particular order:

Public Enemy
Marxman
Dead Prez
Disposable Heroes of Hiphopracy
Michael Franti & Spearhead
Iron Sheik (Palestinian hip hop)
Steve Zearle
Seanchai
Scary Eire
Robby Bee and the Boyz from the Rez
KRS-1
and Scott MX Turner does some good hip hop stuff too as well as punk/reggae too.

I've heard good things about the Coup but haven't heard them yet.

[EneME]

Originally posted by [email protected] 3 2003, 08:23 PM
African-Rap is great, at least what little I've listened to. Kalamashaka, and Ghana Obrafo are insane.

The only Spanish rap I've ever listened to is Control Machete, most of the Spanish music I listen to are from the guest of the show "El Gordo y la flaca", because they are generally hot Dominicanas :Drool:.
LMAO&#33; it&#39;s true...i hate watching spanish channels...always always naken women&#39;s... <_<

[Kurai Tsuki]

Public Enemy
50 Cent
Cyprus Hill

[mentalbunny]

does dizzee count as rap? he rules. I don&#39;t listen to much, i shoul definitely get some more, damn cash flow problems.

[The Rotten One]

NWA, biotch.

[Eastside Revolt]

Originally posted by [email protected] 29 2003, 04:17 AM
Swollen Members
AWWWWW&#33; Swolen Members?&#33; :angry:

I&#39;m sorry but I must once agian like to send my dissrespect out to all the fans of Mad Chicken and Purve. If you want to hear some good Vancouver shit, check out: Sweatshop Union, Josh Martinez, Rascalz, Checkmate & Consise.

[robob8706]

I don&#39;t get why Tupac is so &#39;great&#39;. Sure he sang about black oppression and a better lifestyle and people say this makes him a moral man, but he also sang about screwing Biggies wife....., not very moral to me, i hate how everyone is hypocritical.

[Arnhem]

How about:

Lost Boyz
Everlast
Onyx
Naughty by Nature
KRS-ONE

Pretty good guys who mostly keep it real&#33;

[refuse_resist]

Grandmaster Flash
Run DMC
Beastie Boys
Immortal Technique
Wu-Tang
Notorious B.I.G.
Cypress Hill
Easy E
NWA
Ice Cube
Warren G
Mobb Depp
Nas
Ill Mestizo
MC Breed
Lighter Shade of Brown
Method Man


:D

[Saint-Just]

Originally posted by [email protected] 9 2004, 10:31 PM
I don&#39;t get why Tupac is so &#39;great&#39;. Sure he sang about black oppression and a better lifestyle and people say this makes him a moral man, but he also sang about screwing Biggies wife....., not very moral to me, i hate how everyone is hypocritical.
I agree, but he is not as bad as some rappers. I don&#39;t agree with Tupac on a lot of things but I would say he is great because he is such a good artists.

[Hampton]

I don&#39;t get why Tupac is so &#39;great&#39;. Sure he sang about black oppression and a better lifestyle and people say this makes him a moral man, but he also sang about screwing Biggies wife....., not very moral to me, i hate how everyone is hypocritical.

It&#39;s not about being hypocritical, there&#39;s many sides to people that is an example of his. If someone was to say that Tupac is a moral man, I would not know what they meant. He was not an angel in life, he did bad things, he shot two cops, he smoked drugs, he had lots of sex with diffrent women, and cursed in his music. But having fueds and slagging people in your raps is part of hip hop, it has and always will be.

[Shifty]

The Roots
Dead Prez
Twista
Do Or Die
Biggie Smalls
Big L
8ball
Triple Six Mafia
Mars
Del The Funky Homosapien
Xzibit
Snoop Dogg
Wu Tang
Mos Def
Dirt McGirt
A Tribe Called Quest
Gangstarr
Tupac
Gravediggaz
Scarface
Twiztid
and on and on...

[life beyond life]

Lauryn Hill
The Roots
Tupac
Mos Def
Talib Kweli
Common
Rakim
KRS 1
Chuck D.
Paris
Da Coup
Dead Prez
Outkast (2nd album)
Goodie Mob
Mystic
Missundastood
Tyson
Kumasi
Muhahideen Team

i&#39;m a die hard hip hop fan, however, i don&#39;t just listen to this pop mu&#036;ic that gets most of the airplay. i truly see it as an art form, not to be messed with and definitely not to be compromised...

one.

[Pawn Power]

i dont really listen to alot of rap but when i do i listen to Outcast and The WuTangClan.

[Floyd.]

Grand Master Flash and the Furious Five
Afrikaaa Bambataa
The Disposable Heroes of Hiphoprisy
Rage Against the Machine
George Clinton
Capelton
Some Jurassic 5 stuff
The Sugar hill gang
Public Enemy
Eric B and Rakim
Gil Scott Herron
Lauryn Hill
Cody Chestnutt
Outkast
Tha Dogg Pound
Snoop Dogg

I don&#39;t know I really don&#39;t like rap much at all and hate gangsta rap, I only like the beats but rap&#39;s really not my thing... at all.

[EL CHICO ROJO]

Immortal Technique
nas-his early stuff
snoop dogg-early stuff
the coup
zach dela rocha
Tengo Calderon
Oshiras
Cypress Hill
dead prez
krs-1
public enemy
sweatshop union
illogic
paris
ras kass
kos
blackalicious
mexicano
common

[Louis Pio]

A few on the top of my head are:

Kool Keith (in all his various personas)
KRS-One
Looptroop
Del Tha Funky Homosapien (especially Deltron 3030, so I guess it also includes Dan The Automater)
Icecube
Tha Doggpound
Big Pun

[Kobbot 401]

Rap has become to much pop and not enough about what life is on the streets. Now rap is like contry, its all about my girlfriend left me and crap like that. Groups like Ghetto Boys still keep to what rap is sopose to be about.

[Commie-K]

Modern rap is so pointless. EVERY new rap song is about getting high and drunk or shaking your booty. What happened to REAL messages in rap? I can&#39;t stand music with bad, pointless lyrics.

[EL CHICO ROJO]

commie-k
u should look for music by
krs-1
public enmy
the coup
immortal technique
very good socialy conciouse rap
ull enjoy it

[__ca va?]

Xzibit
Snoop Dogg
Dr Dre
D12

Xzibit&#39;s lyrics have got messages&#33;

[Vaudeville_Villain]

MF DOOM,
Ghostface,
Nas.

The three greatest MC&#39;s of all time IMO.

[Dr. Rosenpenis]

Unfortunately I haven&#39;t gotten too much into rap and hip-hop, and while I&#39;m not very familiar with these guys, I know and really like at least a few of their tracks.

The Roots
Mos Def
Talib Kweli
Wyclef Jean

[Vaudeville_Villain]

If you&#39;re not familiar with Mos Def and Talib Kweli you might not know they joined up to drop an album under the name Blackstar? If you haven&#39;t already copped that shit DO IT NOW, it&#39;s golden.

[DarkAngel]

I love spanish raggea {tego is the shit}, i like a lot of mainstream hip-hop... and I like most people lists. But if I would have to choose, it would be my underground rap {Kottonmouth Kings, Icp ect...}

[ItalianFist]

wu tang
immortal technique
jedi mind tricks
atmosphere
non phixion
big l

[socialistfuture]

I used to be a metal head and not really into rap. A friend showed me dead prez and immortal technique - I was blown away.

Theres some real revolutionary themed rap. Mos def, talib kweli, public enemy, krs one.. theres tonnes of the shit.

Tupac&#39;s mum was a panther so he had that side to him. He was also into the gangster and ego shit. You can hear the pain of growing up in the streets and what the cops do and all that shit.

Mof def - new world water is a good song bout ... u guessed it water.
Big ups to those rappers who have content.

[Red Bolshevik]

I can’t stand ‘commercialized’ rap, but I enjoy underground and socially conscious hip hop (my favorite type of music).

My favorite artists:

2pac (pre-death row records)
AZ
Company Flow
Cormega
The Coup
Cunninlynguists
DMX
Funcrusher Plus
Jedi Mind Tricks
KRS-One
Mobb Deep
Nas
Notorious B.I.G.
Outkast
Public Enemy
Talib Kweli

I also like Jay-Z and Snoop Dogg before they sold out.

[socialistfuture]

Here is a poem from tupac when he was 19.
http://www.mosdefinitely.com/home.htm
and here is a site bout mos def - its got tonnes of shit in it.
uhm when was snoop dogg undeground? u mean he wasnt always a pimp?

[Red Bolshevik]

Well, snoop dogg was never completely underground but during his early days his lyracism was much improved over what it is now. That together with his charisma makes the old snoop dogg o.k. in my eyes.

[Louis Pio]

The old snoop is great&#33; But the new sucks bad, very bad except from a few tunes like lay low for example

[The Sloth]

Hip-hop is definitely my favorite genre of music.


Talib Kweli - can&#39;t go wrong here...he&#39;s basically the man that got me into underground hip-hop in the first place. Best track of all time -- "For Women"...never heard anything like it.

Mos Def - one-half of Black Star (other half being Talib Kweli), one of my favorite artists, ever.

Ras Kass - damn, while he&#39;s nothing special now, back when he released "Soul On Ice," no one could really touch him. Can&#39;t front on this one, this cd got me into politics after picking up a book of the same title when I heard it.

Canibus - I can say with honesty, with no hesitation in my voice, and with no reason to "catch myself," that Canibus is the best rapper to ever pick up a microphone, whether dead or alive, whether it&#39;s 2004 or 1982. I have never heard a battle against another emcee as powerful as "Second Round K.O.," and nor did I ever hear a verse better than "Poet Laureate II" or "Beasts from the East." Never has a guest appearance been as good as "4, 3, 2, 1" and never did another rapper shine on a track that featured Canibus. Simply unbelievable.

Aceyalone - if you ever heard a flow better than Aceyalone&#39;s, I&#39;d definitely want to hear it. Whether he&#39;s rapping solo or with Freestyle Fellowship, he brings out the best of the West Coast. One of the top ten hip-hop releases, in my opinion, is "All Balls Don&#39;t Bounce." No track is "bad," which is rare, even for a classic. One song is called "Makeba," which is the most brilliant songs on a sour relationship I have ever heard in my life...the beat changes with a hint of maliciousness in Acey&#39;s voice, although his flow is top-notch throughout the entire thing. The choice of words is incredible. Even damn music reviewers that love this CD can&#39;t get it right....I cringed today when I was reading some review that said that Aceyalone was "attempting to get back with an old love," which ruins the entire purpose of the song. Ugh&#33;


So, those are my "Big Five." And, of course, with me, that means those are the five best lyricists I ever heard.




The rest I listen to are,

Common (Sense) - he&#39;s also a "Top Five Lyricist" to me, although I didn&#39;t include him on the list. A "top-ten release" was in "Resurrection" from &#39;94.....incredible style and lyrics.

Nas - can&#39;t go wrong with "Illmatic"

Main Source - "Breaking Atoms" is another "Illmatic"....although not as good ;)

Illogic - check out "Unforseen Shadows" -- a "top ten lyricist"

Louis Logic
Dead Prez
Public Enemy
Rakim

Blackalicious - check "NIA" and "Blazing Arrow"...extremely lyrical, very conscious. I&#39;d put Gift of Gab (the emcee of the group) as a "top ten lyricist"

Immortal Technique - ehh, overrated, but I still check him every now and then

A Trible Called Quest
K-Os
Company Flow
Cee-Lo
AZ

Lauryn Hill - she released my favorite album of all time...guess what that is ;)

The Fugees - overrated....the only good verses come from Lauryn Hill, but still a good listen overall

Jean Grae - female emcee extraordinare

Souls of Mischief
De La Soul

Tupac - beyond overrated, but still a good listen

Hieroglyphics - can&#39;t name you any songs, but I listen to a lot of tracks from them...they&#39;re alright, they&#39;re alright..

Organized Konfusion - really one of the best rap groups ever....while Outkast can&#39;t be touched on the hits and the creativity, Organized Konfusion can&#39;t be touched on the lyrics. Pharoahe Monch has incredible flow.




Well, that&#39;s about it. I have more, but can&#39;t remember anything else :)

[DJ B-Lank]

Originally posted by [email protected] 31 2003, 02:52 PM
Dead Prez is pretty good, excellent lyrics and thought-provoking
Very true about Prez, my one problem with him is that hes blatently racist, and that kinda bumps him down in my books alittle.

To touch on another thing I read, about hip-hop going into the bling-bling era, also very true, in mainstream. But man, you gotta dig through the music. There is so much amazing music in the hip-hop world waiting to be discovered in "underground hip-hop". I don&#39;t want to relist lots but here are some people I dont think were mentioned:

LMNO
Aesop Rock
DJ Shadow
DJ Z-Trip
Mr. Lif
Cut Chemist
Babu

just a few

[EL CHICO ROJO]

just wondering any1 here of ani ecuadorian rap by any chance?