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CynicalIdealist
6th January 2011, 11:52
:D
Given that fact, I'm trying to think of a good way to move that money to the right places per se. My grandparents are super rich, and my parents have millions in assets if I'm not mistaken. So...
How to take advantage of my privilege for the sake of the proletariat? :confused: Suggestions?
REVLEFT'S BIEGGST MATSER TROL
6th January 2011, 15:25
:D
Given that fact, I'm trying to think of a good way to move that money to the right places per se. My grandparents are super rich, and my parents have millions in assets if I'm not mistaken. So...
How to take advantage of my privilege for the sake of the proletariat? :confused: Suggestions?
Well, you could give a proley like me some? ;)
Nah, actually if I were you i'd just do whatever will help grow the money really, i don't think anyone can blame you for that, live the life you want as long as it isn't stupidly assholeish.
Broletariat
6th January 2011, 15:30
I would think answering a question like this would largely depend on your specific local political climate. Try and find near by socialist organisations and see what they're working towards, if you agree pitch in and help.
Sensible Socialist
6th January 2011, 15:39
Fund the revolution? ;)
You could use your money on specific projects, such as helping build clean water sources in Latin America, schools, and other things that impoverished communities need.
Sasha
6th January 2011, 16:43
if you actually have an substantial amount of money set up an solidarity fund, here in the netherlands we have the X-Y fund and we (as the local autonomus action movement) and a ton of organisations worldwide are very depended on them.
their website is in dutch, but there is some english info on it too: https://www.xminy.nl/
less radical but also an good organisation (and an example on how you can make an fund like this also topic based) is the womensrights fund mamacash: http://www.mamacash.org/
ellipsis
6th January 2011, 17:20
I say disperse it SlOwly to whatever groups ur coming across or support. Give eah group fifty or whatEver.
The Idler
6th January 2011, 17:51
Give it to the World Socialist Movement (http://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&source=web&cd=1&ved=0CBsQFjAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.worldsocialism.org%2F&ei=0wAmTZPoJI2whQfn1ZT1AQ&usg=AFQjCNEa2W6O81FL1ub6Srf0aJyL7P_PqQ&sig2=woMjrZSO6F6qFtPSGCC4zw)
or one of the following parties.
List of Left-Wing Parties in the United States (http://eng.anarchopedia.org/index.php?title=List_of_Left-Wing_Parties_in_the_United_States&redirect=no)
list of left-wing parties in the United Kingdom (http://eng.anarchopedia.org/list_of_left-wing_parties_in_the_United_Kingdom)
Charity is a very short-term plan (give a man a fish, feed him for a day, teach a man to fish etc). Socialism is long-term.
Rooster
6th January 2011, 18:03
You could buy us all machine guns and cigars.
RedHal
6th January 2011, 20:22
Well, you could give a proley like me some? ;)
Nah, actually if I were you i'd just do whatever will help grow the money really, i don't think anyone can blame you for that, live the life you want as long as it isn't stupidly assholeish.
yeah, just what the toiling masses need, another petit bourgeois lefty:rolleyes:
Bitter Ashes
7th January 2011, 17:31
Dunno lol. At the risk of sounding like a reet cappie, investment in education?
World economies are settled in the hundreds of billions, not millions and although it's certainly one hell of a lot more money than my £60 a week income, you can't change the world with your chequebook. However what you could do is look into ways for comrades to use the money to learn trades, get premesis, etc that could be used to create SUSTAINABLE resources for all comrades to use.
For example, hiring tutors for carpentry, metalworking, etc who might otherwise not share thier skills to teach comrades who will share thier newly gained skills for free.
Delenda Carthago
8th January 2011, 18:05
My suggestion has 2 parts.
A. Dont listen to any of them above.
B.Funding a revolutionary movement or a cause or a party or whatever should be based on logical terms.
1.Who is gonna make a difference?What should be done where and what it will affect?What do I want to accomplish?Who needs help in the first place?
Per say, money spent on women liberation in the western world in the 21st century and during a worldwide crisis, is money thrown into the fire.The same goes for animal-stupid-liberation, or any other thing that is not evolving around the realtionship of Work-Capital.
2.Where do you live and what is active in your area? Of course helping financially someone that is close to you might be more easy for you.But be very carefull to who you are giving the money to, because its kinda importand not to be spent to causes or parties or movements that dont worth it.Our times demand our best focus on every move.
Now if you ask ME who I would help, I got a short list...
A.Naxalites. Might be hard to find, but the struggle in India is a top priority right now for every one of us worldwide.A succesfull revolution in India would change everything.
B. Turkish communists.There is a big need for help for these people that fight against the fascist state of Turkey,and being from Greece would be very important to have neighbours with strong movements.
C. Italian antifa. On the contrary with german antifa,which doesnt have revolutionary perspective in general, italian antifascists are against strong fascist movements but they are also carying the socialist spirit in their struggle.
http://antifasismos.wordpress.com/2010/04/29/antifa-festival-bologna/
(contains some emails)
D.FAU, Germany. They are one of the most honest and pure voices in germany proletariat and they could use a hand. Specially when its in the heart of the EU beast.
http://www.fau.org/
E.Russian comrades. Also against strong nazi movements, some bucks could be a big push for them.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Konfederatsiya_Revolyutsionnikh_Anarkho-Sindikalistov
Last but for sure not least, I wanna say that helping revolution financially should be done by anyone who can afford it.Worldwide comrades are needing our help and we should not forget that.
thriller
8th January 2011, 18:23
If there are any homeless people in your area, walk up to them and give them some cash. Sure they may buy beer and drugs with it, but they will be so happy, and I think it'll make you feel better. I actually know quite a few homeless people that get super stoked when they get 10 bux. Give someone 50 bux and I doubt you will regret it. That's all I've got.
BIG BROTHER
8th January 2011, 18:35
My humble suggestions of what you could do:
A) Just invest that money wisely so that you never have to work and can be a full-time revolutionary with spare money for the expenses that always come up and that most of us can afford. If you do this just don't become an asshole and never loose touch with the masses.
B) Donate it to people in need. Sometimes people are in need of immediate help and although charity is paternalistic and doesn't change the problem there are times when people just gotta eat and can't wait :P
C)Donate it to an class struggle campaing, or political party that is worth it. Just remember that you gotta make sure it an organization worth giving your money too!
FYI my group Socialist Organizer (US section of the FI)could use some funds, we have done work around budget cuts in education, immigrant rights and anti-war, etc. PM I can give you proof we are worth it.
D)I think this might be a hard one but possibly the best one. Fund a worker's Co-opt! I don't think will change capitalism but it still worth it, why?
-You would show worker's that you don't need capitalists to run society
-You would be providing a dignified job, which is something very rare in this decadent society.
-Your money would be sustainable as not only you, but others would be able to have a stable source of income.
Frosty Weasel
18th January 2011, 23:54
Just echoing what others have said.
Support the groups that seem to be doing the most good. It's a sad irony but we need capital to help defeat capitalism.
:lol:
Bright Banana Beard
23rd January 2011, 03:38
Donate me 50 buck, food stamp gave me 120 bucks and i am starving. My only entertainment is this cellphone and i pay it 25 bucks per month to keep in touch.
What will make me happy if you buy me a dvd portable player.
Also invest while the same time fund the parties in your area.
INI
23rd January 2011, 18:16
Peace.
If I had access to a great amount of money, I would try to find a way to put it towards the development of something revolutionary and self-sustaining. I wouldn't want to just give that money away to some organizations, because I am sure there isnt an organization out there that you are purely dedicated to (well at least I am not). But find what is right and what is true and build from there. This can be your movement, your contribution. You have access to something that many of us do not. Sure you can donate some money but what I see in that is just giving and it being used. With money towards something self-sustaining I see a future, something to be worked with. Im going to stop now because I think im losing my own point :rolleyes:.
Peace my brother! Forward!
MarxistMan
21st March 2011, 08:45
Try to invest it in a gym, for poor people at real low cheap memberships. Or open workers-cooperative business, where the workers are the owners. Or invest it in a socialist newspaper for free, to spread socialist propaganda around
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:D
Given that fact, I'm trying to think of a good way to move that money to the right places per se. My grandparents are super rich, and my parents have millions in assets if I'm not mistaken. So...
How to take advantage of my privilege for the sake of the proletariat? :confused: Suggestions?
MarxistMan
21st March 2011, 08:48
Since i hate Democrats and Republicans so much. Why don't you instead create a news Socialist Party and use that money for a political campaign or join one of the existing workers socialist parties and invest that money in spreading knowledge and propaganda about the party
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:D
Given that fact, I'm trying to think of a good way to move that money to the right places per se. My grandparents are super rich, and my parents have millions in assets if I'm not mistaken. So...
How to take advantage of my privilege for the sake of the proletariat? :confused: Suggestions?
Comrade Ian
22nd March 2011, 06:42
If you'd like to support something in terms of the theoretical/education growth of radical and revolutionary theory I would highly recommend the History of Conciousness program at my University, UCSC. Huey Newton is the most famous graduate, and the University of California is just itching to slash funding and cut out one of the few remaining academic legacies of the mass struggles of the 60's and 70's. I know a lot of the graduate students in the program and I'd expect many of them will form the intellectual backbone of the New-New Left that's been forming recently. It's something that doesn't require a political commitment to a specific line of revolutionary politics and yet avoids the problem of merely giving charity that reinforces the logic and strength of the system.
Info on it here
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Consciousness
Department Webpage
http://histcon.ucsc.edu/
To be honest long term I would look into creating your own long term fund/endowment that revolutionaries could apply to get grants from on your own criteria of what will benefit people. An example I can think of off the top of my head that isn't even explicitly revolutionary but that I know has helped out with some projects significantly is this. Note I'm not recommending to donate to it, but to create one like it but more socialist/revolutionary
http://www.wgf.org/
Finally to plug my own group's project we are behind Haymarket Books which does a lot of work to publish progressive literature in an era when that's getting harder and harder, you can see a lot of what we've done at our website, but just for an example we've recently published the latest books by Noam Chomsky and Amy Goodman. Would be another good investment in rebuilding the intellectual capacities of the Left towards a re-emergence and re-envisioning of anti-capitalist struggle. It'd at least be worth buying our books.
http://www.haymarketbooks.org/
Lastly don't just give it all to a Party, especially not all at once. You're politics may change a bit and more importantly the politics of the party can change, the only reason the CPUSA is still around is because it had enough rich people give them money in their heyday to keep them afloat despite their bankrupt reformist politics. The cult of Jack Barnes in the SWP is another good example. Give generously, but be strategic and be aware that the necessities of the left can change especially when there's still so much work to do to reconstructing the far left. Hence why I would recommend moving most of it towards intellectual causes and publishing causes, anything that help in the development of revolutionary theory.
Ele'ill
24th March 2011, 05:13
Build affordable housing
#FF0000
24th March 2011, 05:15
send some scratch to my paypal plz
Tim Finnegan
24th March 2011, 05:21
Give it to...
list of left-wing parties in the United Kingdom (http://eng.anarchopedia.org/list_of_left-wing_parties_in_the_United_Kingdom)
No. No! Don't you dare. Don't you dare encourage them. I'm serious, I will get you if you even think about it! :cursing:
Seriously, though, don't piss it away funding some mad little sect or other (which, no offence to anyone involve with them, all but a handful of those listed are). Give it to something that will produce actual material benefit for the working class. Maybe use it help set-up some workers co-operatives- that way, they'll have a chance of being able to pay you back for it, so you'll have both a shiny little nugget of workers' self-management and the funds to go and do it all over again! :D
If there are any homeless people in your area, walk up to them and give them some cash. Sure they may buy beer and drugs with it, but they will be so happy, and I think it'll make you feel better. I actually know quite a few homeless people that get super stoked when they get 10 bux. Give someone 50 bux and I doubt you will regret it. That's all I've got.
That is a terrible idea.
Kenco Smooth
24th March 2011, 11:50
yeah, just what the toiling masses need, another petit bourgeois lefty:rolleyes:
Well seeing as, short of outright denying to accept the money and having it go off to some other (possibly less friendly) source, he's going to have it anyway, surely it's best he invests it in socially concious and pro-worker ways?
Or was this just baseless, prolier than though personal attack on someone simply concerned with what to do with a responsibility of his? Something tells me it is.
Do you propose he burns the money and lives on the streets instead? For goodness sake you act like the very fact that he might come into money immediately forbids him from entering left politics.
ZeroNowhere
24th March 2011, 12:01
yeah, just what the toiling masses need, another petit bourgeois leftyI concur. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Friedrich_Engels)
dez
24th March 2011, 23:56
Dont fund parties. Dont trust anyone else with your money other than yourself and your gut feeling.
You could
- Start a socialist school. Hire teachers, buy property, accept orphans / street kids. Theres plenty of them in plenty of countries, just pick the one you like the most and start it. Raise them in a constructivist fashion and make sure they are children of lenin.
- Fund think tanks. Marx wouldn't have been shit hadn't it been engels.
- Fund cooperatives. Kiva is a loan system that works with small capital and successfully funds cooperatives or small enterpreneurs in developing countries. Massively fund kiva or start your own version (a thai banker did something like that combined with option 1).
- Move to tahiti and oversee your operations through the internet inside your private pool by the beach.
Wanted Man
25th March 2011, 12:48
GIVE IT TO MY PARTY1!1!1
Umm, keep it for yourself and never think about the "Revolutionary Left" again?
Apoi_Viitor
25th March 2011, 13:29
Help the revolutionaries in Nepal and Chiapas.
Amphictyonis
25th March 2011, 13:54
:D
Given that fact, I'm trying to think of a good way to move that money to the right places per se. My grandparents are super rich, and my parents have millions in assets if I'm not mistaken. So...
How to take advantage of my privilege for the sake of the proletariat? :confused: Suggestions?
Read my sig.
Rusty Shackleford
27th March 2011, 11:01
Be Robert Motherfucking Owens.
EDIT: you live in Norcal
give it to groups like Safe Grounds.
They are currently in a battle to get some land in sacramento for homelessness rehabilitation or whatever you wanna call it.
like dignity village.
yes i just endorsed philanthropy, but im not going to say "hey, can i come over to your place and get a few bucks?"
or you could just give it all to the PSL, no strings attached. (joke)
pranabjyoti
27th March 2011, 16:40
:D
Given that fact, I'm trying to think of a good way to move that money to the right places per se. My grandparents are super rich, and my parents have millions in assets if I'm not mistaken. So...
How to take advantage of my privilege for the sake of the proletariat? :confused: Suggestions?
The best way of using this capital is to use it in research and development of new products and technologies. There are a lot of technological and product ideas floating on net that needs some funding for materialization and which have the capability to change the world.
gorillafuck
27th March 2011, 16:45
go to a wicked awesome college like Colombia or Yale.
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