Is it time to form a new communist country?

[The Old Man from Scene 24]

It wouldn't be easy to form(as none of them are). There are still many communists out there, but I think we are too scattered around the world. This is a problem, because most places in the world want capitalism. If we are to do this, most of us are pretty much stuck with online communication only, because we can't travel around the world

I think it should be like the Soviet Union politically. If so, the main question is, what went wrong with the collapse of the USSR? What could we do to prevent this from happening again?

[Rjevan]

It wouldn't be easy to form(as none of them are). There are still many communists out there, but I think we are too scattered around the world. This is a problem, because most places in the world want capitalism. If we are to do this, most of us are pretty much stuck with online communication only, because we can't travel around the world.
Comrade, please correct me if I got this wrong but you make it sound as if us communists had to carry out a coup to "form" a "communist country". That concept entirely misses the basic idea of Marxism: the working class revolution.

We are in the minority at the moment, you yourself say that "most places in the world want capitalism". How are we supposed to force our ideology upon the masses then? The anwers is: we aren't supposed to do this at all!

The working class has to carry out a revolution and our tasks are to "agitate, educate and organise", to raise the level of class consciousness of the expolited masses and to spearhead its struggle. Not to carry out minority coups and force communism upon the majority against their will. Such a "communism" would be doomed from the very beginning. These two quotes by Lenin deal with this idea:


For a revolution to take place it is not enough for the exploited and oppressed masses to realise the impossibility of living in the old way, and demand changes; for a revolution to take place it is essential that the exploiters should not be able to live and rule in the old way. It is only when the "lower classes" do not want to live in the old way and the "upper classes" cannot carry on in the old way that the revolution can triumph. This truth can be expressed in other words: revolution is impossible without a nation-wide crisis (affecting both the exploited and the exploiters).
http://www.marxists.org/archive/lenin/works/1920/lwc/ch09.htm


Victory cannot be won with the vanguard [the progressive class conscious elements organised into a proletarian party] alone. To throw the vanguard alone into the decisive battle, before the whole class, before the broad masses have taken up a position either of direct support of the vanguard, or at least of benevolent neutrality towards it...would be not merely folly but a crime.
http://www.marxists.org/reference/archive/stalin/works/1924/foundations-leninism/ch07.htm


I think it should be like the Soviet Union politically. If so, the main question is, what went wrong with the collapse of the USSR? What could we do to prevent this from happening again?
It should be noted that the USSR never was a "communist country" (and never claimed to be) as one of the basic characteristics of communist society is that it is stateless. But the USSR was indeed socialist.

What went wrong is a question with many answers, depending on the different tendencies. Some will answer that the USSR went wrong from the very beginning, some others that already the October Revolution was wrong, some that Stalin is the reason why the USSR degenerated, others (like myself) that after Stalin's death a clique of revisionists around Khrushchev seized power and introduced revisionist reforms and policies which ultimately led to the restoration of capitalism.

Depending on the different answers you will also get different analyses and solutions to avoid that something similar happens again in the future.

[Black Sheep]

Yeah,let's all go to a deserted island in the pacific and build our communist utopia.

The sectarianism levels would skyrocket

[Spawn of Stalin]

For the record, most of the world does not want capitalism,, most of Europe and north America wants capitalism. I don't think it would be too hard to convince a Somalian worker, or a Thai kid, that capitalism is a miserable failure. IT IS time to forma new "Communist" country, it is always time to form one, but it can't be done, the October Revolution was the result of years and years of preparation, as was the Chinese Revolution. Patience.

[graymouser]

It wouldn't be easy to form(as none of them are). There are still many communists out there, but I think we are too scattered around the world. This is a problem, because most places in the world want capitalism. If we are to do this, most of us are pretty much stuck with online communication only, because we can't travel around the world

I think it should be like the Soviet Union politically. If so, the main question is, what went wrong with the collapse of the USSR? What could we do to prevent this from happening again?
Well, having one country trying to be "socialist" in a world of hostile capitalism was one mistake. So repeating it....not so much.

If you're going to have worldwide socialism, you need a permanent revolution that spreads from the democratic to the socialist tasks, and spreads from one country to the rest of the world. If one country tries to become socialist, all it will mean is spreading poverty equally, since the capitalists will try to place a blockade around it like they do with Cuba. For socialism to be the sharing of wealth, the revolution would need to move from country to country through an international party.