Homo sapiens Possibly Originated in Israel

[NewSocialist]

According to a new archeological finding - http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20101227/ap_on_re_mi_ea/ml_israel_ancient_teeth

[ÑóẊîöʼn]

There seems to be no reason it can't be a Neanderthal tooth. I think it's too soon to start getting excited.

[Dimentio]

There was some interbreeding between Neanderthals and modern humans in Israel according to Svante Pääbo. Probably, the East Asians are partially descended from Neanderthals living in Central Asia, while Europeans are partially descended from Neanderthals in Western Europe. The only ones who lack Neanderthal ancestry are Subsaharan Africans, which means that they paradoxically are the only "real humans" if we mean Homo Sapiens.

[Kiev Communard]

If I am not mistaken, earliest fossils of Homo sapiens actually were found in modern Ethiopia - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homo_sapiens_idaltu (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homo_sapiens_idaltu)

[Political_Chucky]

ohhh nooo....here come the religious nuts claiming it is Jesus....I can hear it already now....:(

[Tavarisch_Mike]

This article is just too much fuzz over little evidence, nothing is written about the tooths (former) owner like gender, age and so which means that the journalist probably doesnt know very much about archeology or the human evolution and just made some screaming headlines to get attention.

[Amphictyonis]

Religious bullshit.

[The Vegan Marxist]

"..teeth are often unreliable indicators of origin, and analyses of skull remains would more definitively identify the species found in the Israeli cave."

http://www.opposingviews.com/i/ancient-teeth-found-did-man-originate-in-israel-not-africa

I'm quite skeptical about this finding as well. But I'm not surprised, whatsoever, that the religious are eating this shit up and shouting CAPS ON articles, starting with "BREAKING".

[Hexen]

This is clearly nationalistic (most likely Zionist) based pseudo-archeology (https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/Pseudoarchaeology) no doubt.

[NewSocialist]

I don't understand why some people here are saying this is "religious bullshit". The scientists who uncovered this carbon dated it at 400,000 years old, don't the radical Christians say the world is no older than 3,000 years old?

I'm not saying this finding is going to displace the whole out of Africa theory, but I doubt the researchers had some hidden agenda.

[NewSocialist]

zionist state archaeology-no specific agenda?
i doubt it

What could it possibly prove? At most, it would mean *all* humans originated in the middle east. Jews didn't become a unique culture and nationality until hundreds of thousands of years later. How does this help Zionist claims to the land at all?

[Sir Comradical]

There was some interbreeding between Neanderthals and modern humans in Israel according to Svante Pääbo. Probably, the East Asians are partially descended from Neanderthals living in Central Asia, while Europeans are partially descended from Neanderthals in Western Europe. The only ones who lack Neanderthal ancestry are Subsaharan Africans, which means that they paradoxically are the only "real humans" if we mean Homo Sapiens.

What about people from the subcontinent?

[Raúl Duke]

This article is just too much fuzz over little evidence, nothing is written about the tooths (former) owner like gender, age and so which means that the journalist probably doesnt know very much about archeology or the human evolution and just made some screaming headlines to get attention.

"..teeth are often unreliable indicators of origin, and analyses of skull remains would more definitively identify the species found in the Israeli cave."

http://www.opposingviews.com/i/ancie...ael-not-africa (http://www.anonym.to/?http://www.opposingviews.com/i/ancient-teeth-found-did-man-originate-in-israel-not-africa)

I'm quite skeptical about this finding as well. But I'm not surprised, whatsoever, that the religious are eating this shit up and shouting CAPS ON articles, starting with "BREAKING". QFT

At least based on my understanding of human evolution from Physical Anthropology course.

Hell, I'm even so much of a skeptic that I was/am doubtful whether simple pieces of skull is good evidence compared to intact/put-together complete skulls/etc but that just me.

[The Vegan Marxist]

I don't understand why some people here are saying this is "religious bullshit". The scientists who uncovered this carbon dated it at 400,000 years old, don't the radical Christians say the world is no older than 3,000 years old?

I'm not saying this finding is going to displace the whole out of Africa theory, but I doubt the researchers had some hidden agenda.

It's not so much that we're calling this find "religious bullshit", but we are stating that the religious are taking this (possibly) important find out of context and rather re-writing it or overstating it to fit their own agenda, which is just a bunch of religious bullshit.

The article's provided by that of the religious are disregarding the possibility of this being a find of post-African migration. This could very well be a find of early human ancestry, but I seriously doubt that it's of the earliest.

[Rosa Lichtenstein]

Maybe so, but the 'neanderthals' moved in recently...

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[Lucretia]

If homo sapiens originated in Israel, does that mean that members of homo neanderthalensis founded Israel?

[chegitz guevara]

So, does this mean we can all claim the Right of Return now?