Palace of Soviets

[Dimentio]

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Discuss

[Nolan]

"Help, Comrade Stalin, I'm afraid of heights!"

[An archist]

Towers are cool?

[Nolan]

Lord of the Soviets.

[Nuvem]

Had the USSR maintained a proper Leninist path, this would have been pretty awesome.

There was also that statue of Lenin that Stalin was planning to have built. It was meant to be larger than the Statue of Liberty and have a library inside the head. It turned out the ground they planned to build it on was all wetlands concealed by a famous church, which they destroyed to make way for the statue- which would have sank had they built it.

Fail.

[Red Commissar]

It would've been funny to see a "Skyscraper Race" of sorts on top of all the other cock-waving contests between the US and the USSR had this been completed.

[Sasha]

if it would have been build.... i would have traveled to it... only to have my picture taken under it.... while holding an sign saying "jump then you idiot".... :D

[Kléber]

This is lame neoclassical Stalinist architecture.

What would have been cool is Tatlin's Tower (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tatlin%27s_Tower), the Monument to the Third International.

http://arx.novosibdom.ru/story/STILI/36_KONSTRUKTIVIZM/konstrukt_04.jpg

http://ar-kak.nm.ru/ag/vt/tb2.jpg

[Kléber]

It would've been funny to see a "Skyscraper Race" of sorts on top of all the other cock-waving contests between the US and the USSR had this been completed.
The USSR did build skyscrapers in Moscow to compete with the West. Stalin personally pushed for them to be built after WWII for reasons of international prestige.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seven_Sisters_%28Moscow%29

[scarletghoul]

Great Penis of the Proletariat.

It is a pretty cool design tbh

And yeah tatlin's tower would have been great too. the worlds biggest helter-skelter

[Die Neue Zeit]

I've got a whole collection of Stalinist architecture and urban planning stuff. :thumbup1:

[Kléber]

Stalinist architecture (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stalinist_architecture) sucks. It's all about constructivist architecture (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Constructivist_architecture).

[Die Neue Zeit]

The second proposal for the People's Commissariat of Construction of Heavy Industry (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Nktp_vesn_2.jpg) was the best looking one, but I don't like the Third International skyscraper. Moscow should have been littered with both constructivist and Stalinist skyscrapers.

In Red Square alone, Narkomtiazhprom should have stood side by side with Zaryadye (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eighth_Sister_%28Moscow%29).

Additionally, the Monument to the Eternal Glory of the Great People of the Soviet Land (a.k.a. "Pantheon") (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pantheon,_Moscow) should have been constructed.

[Bright Banana Beard]

The Tatlin's Tower looks crap. A monument or statues? Sure, but for building? Fuck no.

[Kléber]

The second proposal for the People's Commissariat of Construction of Heavy Industry (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Nktp_vesn_2.jpg) was the best looking one, but I don't like the Third International skyscraper. Moscow should have been littered with both constructivist and Stalinist skyscrapers.

In Red Square alone, Narkomtiazhprom should have stood side by side with Zaryadye.
It's a good thing Khrushchev canceled the Zaryadye tower, that stale eyesore, and it's unfortunate that Poland had to deal with the same building. The second proposal for Narkomtiazhprom looks like a dormant phallus and the grooves are a huge waste of office space.

Feudal-inspired Stalinist architecture makes for an unattractive contrast with futurist and modernist designs.

[Kléber]

The Tatlin's Tower looks crap. A monument or statues? Sure, but for building? Fuck no.
Same for your Piece of Shit - I mean Palace of Soviets. Tatlin's monument to the Comintern would have been a waste of resources but it was a revolutionary design, a proletarian answer to the bourgeois Eiffel Tower, befitting a revolutionary workers' state. It's an insult to Lenin to stick him up on top of some neo-Gothic pyramid.

[Die Neue Zeit]

It's a good thing Khrushchev canceled Zaryadye, that ugly piece of crap. It's unfortunate that Poland had to deal with that building. The second proposal for Narkomtiazhprom looks like a severed phallus and the grooves are a huge waste of office space.

Feudal-inspired Stalinist architecture makes for a nasty contradiction with futurist and modernist designs.

Purely constructivist architecture would have looked awkward side by side with the architecture of St. Basil's Cathedral and the Kremlin. Oh, and I added something above on the Pantheon.


It's an insult to Lenin to stick him up on top of some neo-Gothic pyramid.

Instead of Lenin, have something like the "Motherland" statue on top of the Palace. :)

[Bright Banana Beard]

No, it not was in any way in revolutionary design. Wastes of resources reminds me of capitalist exploitation. In fact, the design will look pleased to the bourgeois class.

[Red Future]

Same for your Piece of Shit - I mean Palace of Soviets. Tatlin's monument to the Comintern would have been a waste of resources but it was a revolutionary design, a proletarian answer to the bourgeois Eiffel Tower, befitting a revolutionary workers' state. It's an insult to Lenin to stick him up on top of some neo-Gothic pyramid.

The style is correctly known as "Stalinist Baroque"

[Kléber]

Purely constructivist architecture would have looked awkward side by side with the architecture of St. Basil's Cathedral and the Kremlin. Oh, and I added something above on the Pantheon.
It's good that those ugly buildings are not very tall, there is no need to revamp imperial and gothic architecture and make it dominate the skyline.


No, it not was in any way in revolutionary design. Wastes of resources reminds me of capitalist exploitation.
No, Stalinist architecture with its frills, bells, statues and other excesses was wasteful of resources. Khrushchev's administration, in an act of bureaucratic belt-tightening, put an end to the most wasteful Stalinist architectural spending which always disgusted the working class.


In fact, the design will look pleased to the bourgeois class.The Soviet state's sponsorship of avant-garde constructivist architecture like that of Tatlin was in direct opposition to conservative bourgeois culture. Stalin's skyscrapers, on the other hand, were a direct attempt to impress the international bourgeoisie, and their form was a neoclassical refurbishment of feudal styles.


The style is correctly known as "Stalinist Baroque"
Stalinist architecture is referred to by many names and that's just one of them. It drew from many outdated feudal architectural traditions, including the Baroque.

[scarletghoul]

I love constructivist and Stalinist architecture tbh.

[The Garbage Disposal Unit]

I like Constructivist posters. The whole dreary modernist concrete-blocks and chiseled jaws thing doesn't do it for me, though.

[Martin Blank]

http://adlhochcreative.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2009/11/Palace-of-Soviets.jpg



"Oh! Oh, shit! Um, hey, can you people help me? I think I lost a contact. It's round and clear and..."

[Die Neue Zeit]

I don't get the joke. :blink: :confused: :(

[Aurorus Ruber]

It's referring to this (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OB9ib7Wbh3Q) scene in Family Guy.

[Sentinel]

Had the USSR maintained a proper Leninist path, this would have been pretty awesome.

There was also that statue of Lenin that Stalin was planning to have built. It was meant to be larger than the Statue of Liberty and have a library inside the head. It turned out the ground they planned to build it on was all wetlands concealed by a famous church, which they destroyed to make way for the statue- which would have sank had they built it.

Fail.
At least they got something useful done. :lol:

[bailey_187]

trotsky vs stalin sectarianism knows no bounds. even architecture is argued about :lol:

[Aloysius]

trotsky vs stalin sectarianism knows no bounds. even architecture is argued about :lol:
I'd thank you for this if I could...

[Die Neue Zeit]

It's referring to this (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OB9ib7Wbh3Q) scene in Family Guy.

Thanks a lot! :lol: :laugh: