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Delenda Carthago
24th December 2010, 17:20
If you had the resourches, what revolutionary movement in which countries would you like to support and why?

Personaly,me being from Greece, I think it would be cool to support some radicals from Turkey because they are against a huge dictatorship state and if their struggle would have been succesful, they could help us back into forming a big revolution.

thesadmafioso
25th December 2010, 04:07
None of them, as it would be a complete waste of resources. If you put ideology aside for a moment, it doesn't take much to realize the left is completely devoid of most any significant organization of relevance in any nation where the advancement of leftist ideology would be poised to have an impact.

NoOneIsIllegal
25th December 2010, 04:21
I support the FAU (Germany), CNT (Spain), and SAC (Sweden), but at the moment right now no major situations are happening (for them). As for other organizations and unions, I'm not as aware or am rusty and can't remember. It would be nice to see a few regions and countries have a regrowth in anarchism or syndicalist-awareness, because they were major ideologies in quite a few places like Brazil, Japan, China, a lot of South America, etc. It's understandable why places like Brazil have trouble regrowing a radical movement (quite similar to America, as there was a long history of suppression and state-propaganda, but worse in punishment)

Reznov
25th December 2010, 04:52
Hmm, probably the Palestinian Cause.

Other then that, most organizations don't need any resources, they need events and leaders that will help them get our message out.

Delenda Carthago
25th December 2010, 17:48
I support the FAU (Germany), CNT (Spain), and SAC (Sweden), but at the moment right now no major situations are happening (for them). As for other organizations and unions, I'm not as aware or am rusty and can't remember. It would be nice to see a few regions and countries have a regrowth in anarchism or syndicalist-awareness, because they were major ideologies in quite a few places like Brazil, Japan, China, a lot of South America, etc. It's understandable why places like Brazil have trouble regrowing a radical movement (quite similar to America, as there was a long history of suppression and state-propaganda, but worse in punishment)
I dont think SAC has any particular problem that would need our international solidarity.FAU was in the need 2 years ago, and it was a beautiful thing that solidarity was there for them.IWW would need more help, i think, than a SAC or a CNT.

Crux
25th December 2010, 18:24
I am already, but I wish I could do more. Particularly for the comrades in Kazhakstan that have come under pretty heavy state repression.

Delenda Carthago
25th December 2010, 18:43
I am already, but I wish I could do more. Particularly for the comrades in Kazhakstan that have come under pretty heavy state repression.

What is the situation over there and why do you think it would make a difference?

Crux
25th December 2010, 19:06
What is the situation over there and why do you think it would make a difference?
The regime has backed down from international pressure before, particuarly because their farce is so obvious and they apparently still have a face they are afraid to lose (talking big about "democratizations at lightspeed" and other thing's that bear no resemblance to reality).

Vladimir Innit Lenin
25th December 2010, 20:16
I don't know about revolutionary movements, but if I had significant financial clout i'd help the Palestinians.

For revolutionary movements around the world, financial clout is a necessary but insufficient factor in their success. What they need, and what has been missing for the past two decades or so, is organisational excellence and unity in spirit; when the time for revolution comes, that will be what determines who will win the class war, not who sells the most papers or funnels money into fighting bourgeois elections or whatever.

Bardo
26th December 2010, 04:21
I'd like to see a major revolutionary movement in Iran. They could simultaneously overthrow an oppressive theocracy and prove that US imperialism isn't required to remove a regime.

Also the anarchist movement in your country, Attackgr.

americanmaoist
26th December 2010, 04:26
I support the MPRP(Mongolian People's Revolutionary Party) in Mongolia:)

Delenda Carthago
26th December 2010, 10:29
I don't know about revolutionary movements, but if I had significant financial clout i'd help the Palestinians.

For revolutionary movements around the world, financial clout is a necessary but insufficient factor in their success. What they need, and what has been missing for the past two decades or so, is organisational excellence and unity in spirit; when the time for revolution comes, that will be what determines who will win the class war, not who sells the most papers or funnels money into fighting bourgeois elections or whatever.
Of course but, if you could provide the means for a revolutionary to spread out the good word,dont you think it would help? If you could help create a radio station or a website or whatever. Or even create a site in the language of the people (it would help a lot if we could translate into chinese texts from around the world).Internationalism is a huge thing if you want to be a revolutionary.

What Would Durruti Do?
27th December 2010, 03:11
I wouldn't mind buying the Greeks some actual weapons. There's only so much they can do with molotovs.

Instead of paying for radio/tv or whatever they could just occupy them like they should be doing already.

Optiow
27th December 2010, 03:19
I'd like to see a major revolutionary movement in Iran. They could simultaneously overthrow an oppressive theocracy and prove that US imperialism isn't required to remove a regime.

I agree with that.

~I would also support the Maoists in India and the Palestinian cause.

scarletghoul
27th December 2010, 03:27
I support the MPRP(Mongolian People's Revolutionary Party) in Mongolia:)
Unfortunately the MPRP is now a social-democrat capitalist party. They are the ruling party in Mongolia currently. Unless there's another party of the same name i dont know about

chegitz guevara
27th December 2010, 03:41
All of them.

gorillafuck
27th December 2010, 04:04
Anyone engaged in a Mass strike, people who resist housing demolitions in Palestine and fight when Israel tears down their homes for expansion, and people who resist home foreclosures.

Delenda Carthago
27th December 2010, 18:32
I wouldn't mind buying the Greeks some actual weapons. There's only so much they can do with molotovs.

Instead of paying for radio/tv or whatever they could just occupy them like they should be doing already.
I wouldnt help greeks.First of all, we seem to be doing just fine.
Seconldy, if the revolutionary fire dont start in other countrys,the objective situations are not letting Greece have a revolution. If there is not a revolution in some other European countries, there is not gonna be in Greece either.

Luisrah
27th December 2010, 20:45
I wouldnt help greeks.First of all, we seem to be doing just fine.
Seconldy, if the revolutionary fire dont start in other countrys,the objective situations are not letting Greece have a revolution. If there is not a revolution in some other European countries, there is not gonna be in Greece either.

Good point. It is the agitation in many countries that will inter-help the movements by inspiring each other.

If Portugal and Ireland started heating up, then maybe things would start to get funny.

Sir Comradical
27th December 2010, 23:03
The Maoists in India. Their weapons are primitive and limited, they could certainly use 20,000 AK47s.

Delenda Carthago
27th December 2010, 23:18
Good point. It is the agitation in many countries that will inter-help the movements by inspiring each other.

If Portugal and Ireland started heating up, then maybe things would start to get funny.
Greece-Portugal-Italy-France is where I bet my money...

IndependentCitizen
27th December 2010, 23:21
Greece-Portugal-Italy-France is where I bet my money...

What about Ireland? There appears to be huge opposition towards the government, and they're accepting a huge bail out that no one wants, and the dreaded austerity measures being brought along with the bail out.

RATM-Eubie
27th December 2010, 23:43
CNT in the Spanish Civil War or the Palestinian cause.

BIG BROTHER
28th December 2010, 09:05
I would help our section of the 4th International in Bolivia plus any other independent revolutionary group in Bolivia.

Weather Evo defines himself or not with the masses the reason why I would give the support to the movement in this country its because I believe Bolivia is one of the epicenters of the class struggle.

A successful revolution in Bolivia is not only possible and likely given the current events in the country(the fact that reformist Evo is in power is only possible due to the push of the masses who support/ed him) but it would influence all of Latin-America and and sure would prove deadly to US imperialism.

Cane Nero
28th December 2010, 10:53
I would help our section of the 4th International in Bolivia plus any other independent revolutionary group in Bolivia.

Weather Evo defines himself or not with the masses the reason why I would give the support to the movement in this country its because I believe Bolivia is one of the epicenters of the class struggle.

A successful revolution in Bolivia is not only possible and likely given the current events in the country(the fact that reformist Evo is in power is only possible due to the push of the masses who support/ed him) but it would influence all of Latin-America and and sure would prove deadly to US imperialism.

I hope that a revolution in Bolivia,or at least an attempt, inspire the Brazilians to start doing something too.:)

Delenda Carthago
28th December 2010, 16:19
What about Ireland? There appears to be huge opposition towards the government, and they're accepting a huge bail out that no one wants, and the dreaded austerity measures being brought along with the bail out.
Well, up until now I havent seen any big reactions from the Irish people. On the other hand, the french were by millions on the streets for way smaller issues!