Seeking a name

[Savior]

I have no idea what to call myself, normally I would say communist because I agree with the ideal of a classless and stateless society. I'm unsure as of now wether revolution or reform will be nessary or a combo of both. I think when the revolution occurs the transtion from socialism to Communism should happen gradually. I also love aspects of anarchism like no masters. Which I know Is a part of communism aswell. I agree with troskyist on some points and stalins in another such as socialism In on country or as many as possible during the revolution. Anarchist syndicism also I view is a valuable idea. I see that we may have to crush the capitalists by competition if revocation doesn't occur everwhere. I see the need to take the good parts if the soviet union and other like countries but keep us from becoming a degenerated workers state and state capitalist like what happened to them. I also agree with aspects of technocracy. And transhumanism should be our goal.


So any ideas as what I can call myself?

[Sin]

You're a mess, you fully absorb yourself in multiple stances. You're only options are to either create you own political ideology and give it a name, or find one you agree the most about.

[PoliticalNightmare]

Non-doctrinaire communist?

[Comrade1]

Non-doctrinaire communist?
Agree

[Manic Impressive]

We are the non-doctrinaire communists;
We are the heterodox and heretical, but also the most faithful.
We subscribe to no "ism" but communism;
We accept no doctrine but the general doctrine of the liberation of the working class.

We recognize that even the worst of those who call themselves communist might have a point once in a while.
We recognize that even those who got it right most often got it wrong on occasion.
We accept no written word as gospel, no past position as eternally applicable.
We reject that there is any "unbroken thread" except the string of failures that has plagued our movement for a century.

We are the non-doctrinaire communists.
We prepare for the future by learning from the past.
We are not re-enactors of history, but makers of history.
We are capitalism's gravediggers.

I just call myself a communist, being a non-doctrine communist is awesome there aren't supposed to be rules or one strict way that revolution must occur. Lenin knew that so he added to Marxism, Mao knew it so he added some more. The trouble with people who slavishly follow one doctrine is that they become blinded to the possibility that their method might not work in every situation. Just be a communist

[Savior]

I just call myself a communist, being a non-doctrine communist is awesome there aren't supposed to be rules or one strict way that revolution must occur. Lenin knew that so he added to Marxism, Mao knew it so he added some more. The trouble with people who slavishly follow one doctrine is that they become blinded to the possibility that their method might not work in every situation. Just be a communist

What about when people ask me? Should I say I'm a communist? Or something without the stigma

[Comrade1]

What about when people ask me? Should I say I'm a communist? Or something without the stigma
yeah, if you agree with a bunch of tendencys just say communist, no need to got with stuff like Marxist or Trotskyist.

[Manic Impressive]

I just say I'm a communist, if they want to get into it I'm always happy to explain my views to them in great detail. But even the things I don't think will work in most situations are applicable in others. For example Maoism may work for the Nepalese but I can't ever see it working in the UK. I find it best to take an objective view and base each situation on it's own merits. I also feel no need to label myself as one particular thing to fit into someone else's box. Call yourself whatever you feel comfortable with.

[Savior]

What about neo-communism? I differ and agree win other tendencies like you said.

[PoliticalNightmare]

What about when people ask me? Should I say I'm a communist? Or something without the stigma

The main stigma with communism seem to be that it is one man one rule, so how about libertarian communism?

[revolution inaction]

I have no idea what to call myself, normally I would say communist because I agree with the ideal of a classless and stateless society. I'm unsure as of now wether revolution or reform will be nessary or a combo of both. I think when the revolution occurs the transtion from socialism to Communism should happen gradually. I also love aspects of anarchism like no masters. Which I know Is a part of communism aswell. I agree with troskyist on some points and stalins in another such as socialism In on country or as many as possible during the revolution. Anarchist syndicism also I view is a valuable idea. I see that we may have to crush the capitalists by competition if revocation doesn't occur everwhere. I see the need to take the good parts if the soviet union and other like countries but keep us from becoming a degenerated workers state and state capitalist like what happened to them. I also agree with aspects of technocracy. And transhumanism should be our goal.


So any ideas as what I can call myself?
it sounds like you need to learn more, you don't need to rush into finding a description for you self, if you read more, and if possible take part in campaigns that you agree with locally, then you will work out what your politics are.



What about when people ask me? Should I say I'm a communist? Or something without the stigma
describe your politics, one or two words anarchist, communists, socialist, what ever is not going to inform any one of what you actually believe anyway.

[Savior]

I agree with both of your guys replies thank you

[Admiral Swagmeister G-Funk]

Why not 'anti-capitalist'? You can go about explaining the faults in capitalism without ever having to refer to yourself as a communist.

[The Garbage Disposal Unit]

When around anarchists, call yrself a communist.
When around communists, call yrself an anarchist.
When around people who aren't into capital-P Politics, just tell people yr name, and let yr actions speak for themselves.

[Sixiang]

Why not 'anti-capitalist'? You can go about explaining the faults in capitalism without ever having to refer to yourself as a communist.
This works, too. It would probably not turn people off immediately like communist, socialist, and anarchist do.

[Savior]

This works, too. It would probably not turn people off immediately like communist, socialist, and anarchist do.

This makes sense.

[Impulse97]

I think you should definatly consider becoming an 'Impulse97ist'. We feel that the revolution will only come about by force of chocolate. Someone spouting reactionary Ideas? Shove some chocolate in their face and they'll be too busy indulging in it's creamy goodness to talk any more nonsesnse. That's a great short term solution but, what about a long term solution to reactionary bullshit you say? Impulse97ist's say 'Rinse and Repeat!'. We belive in a grassroots communist revolution by gathering rural chocolate lovers behind a vanguard of professional chocolate revolutionaries!:tt2::laugh::tt2::laugh: [/my attempt a humor]

In all seriousness, I think I'm gonna have to agree with the rest of the people here and say Non-Doctrinaire is the way to go.:hammersickle::che::hammersickle:

[Savior]

I like Libertatian Communist, and the term is kinda up for the taking.

[The Garbage Disposal Unit]

Maximum ultraism is insurrectionary neoism for the 21st century.

[NoOneIsIllegal]

Maximum ultraism is insurrectionary neoism for the 21st century.
That tendency indulges in bourgeois decadence. We all know the anarcho-trot-agrarian-lifestylin'-and for the liberation of dogs-party is the true path to socialism and the liberation of Bichon Frises.
All others are traitors to the revolution.


But in all seriousness, just call yourself anti-capitalist. That is generally how I introduce myself before I start to talk about this "anarcho-syndicalist" shit they have no clue about. The first step towards educating others is showing how the system fails, thus I think "anti-capitalist" is somewhere to start. Focus on your critique of capitalism before spending too much time on self-discovery of pointless labels.

[Die Neue Zeit]

Try Proletocrat.

[Savior]

Try Proletocrat.

I like that, rule by workers. Nice term but most people wont understand it.

And thank you everone for your imput, even the first responder.

[RED DAVE]

How about what you really are: SOCIALIST!

RED DAVE

[Ocean Seal]

If anything is certain, it is that I myself am not a Marxist

Just call yourself a red, a comrade, someone who is willing to put aside details and focus on the main goal of human liberation.

[Savior]

Yea thats it. We are All socialists. And is not communism the goal of all socialists?

[Impulse97]

Yea thats it. We are All socialists. And is not communism the goal of all socialists?

Not really. There are certain Socialists (myself included) who see Socialism as both a means and an end rather than a stepping stone to Communism.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Socialsm (Edit: Just realized in the link Socialism is misspelled lol.)

It's a tad biased towards the Capitalists so take it with a grain of salt. Otherwise, It's pretty dead on.:hammersickle::che::hammersickle:

[Savior]

Not really. There are certain Socialists (myself included) who see Socialism as both a means and an end rather than a stepping stone to Communism.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Socialsm (Edit: Just realized in the link Socialism is misspelled lol.)

It's a tad biased towards the Capitalists so take it with a grain of salt. Otherwise, It's pretty dead on.:hammersickle::che::hammersickle:

Isn't communism only possible with post scarcity? Or something rather close to it?

[Luís Henrique]

Mirror, mirror mine ... there is something more important than what I call myself?

Luís Henrique

[Impulse97]

Isn't communism only possible with post scarcity? Or something rather close to it?


I'm not the most versed in post scarcity but, I would think not. Would it be desirable? Yea, sure but, not a requirement. I don't think communism seeks to abolish all menial work per-se but, rather to close the gap between the rich and the poor. To highlight that the janitors work is just as valuable to society as the doctors and thus the difference in pay and social status should be narrowed. Also, that factory workers who make perhaps 50k a year would be able to live happy productive lives in comfort just like a doctor who makes 150k a year. I don't think we're at a point were Post Scarcity would be fully possible.:hammersickle::che::hammersickle:

(Merry Christmas, Hanukkah, Kwanza and Ramadon Comrades!)

[Diello]

Maximum ultraism is insurrectionary neoism for the 21st century.

I'm going to call myself an awesomeist from now on.

[Savior]

I'm not the most versed in post scarcity but, I would think not. Would it be desirable? Yea, sure but, not a requirement. I don't think communism seeks to abolish all menial work per-se but, rather to close the gap between the rich and the poor. To highlight that the janitors work is just as valuable to society as the doctors and thus the difference in pay and social status should be narrowed. Also, that factory workers who make perhaps 50k a year would be able to live happy productive lives in comfort just like a doctor who makes 150k a year. I don't think we're at a point were Post Scarcity would be fully possible.:hammersickle::che::hammersickle:

(Merry Christmas, Hanukkah, Kwanza and Ramadon Comrades!)
Of course...wouldint socialism be implemented until it's possible. Also how do we know when we have reached communism?

[Lobotomy]

I like Libertatian Communist, and the term is kinda up for the taking.

Yeah, but if you're in the US and you're talking to someone who doesn't know much about revolutionary politics, be prepared for "isn't that like an oxymoron lolz"

[Kaze no Kae]

What about neo-communism? I differ and agree win other tendencies like you said.

I think "neo-" implies the revival of something dead, which seems to imply Stalinism. Just say "communist". Or whatever else you feel adequately describes your views

[Q]

Sorry, but when I saw the title of the thread I kinda hoped that it referred to searching for a writer or something of that nature.

Why is this in Learning? It should better be served in Chit-Chat.

[PoliticalNightmare]

I think "neo-" implies the revival of something dead, which seems to imply Stalinism. Just say "communist". Or whatever else you feel adequately describes your views

I didn't mention "neo-"...:confused:

[PoliticalNightmare]

Yeah, but if you're in the US and you're talking to someone who doesn't know much about revolutionary politics, be prepared for "isn't that like an oxymoron lolz"

Unfortunately, this is the obvious problem with the term "libertarian communism". On the plus side, it also intrigues and therefore leads to further discussion. "Libertarian socialism" also doesn't have the same stigma attached (socialism is a less dangerous communism for most people).

On the other hand, it helps to just describe one's politics rather than start attaching "all encompassing" words that speak for themselves and prevent further conversation. E.g. "I'm a communist" - "oh fascist dicatorship, right."

[Savior]

Unfortunately, this is the obvious problem with the term "libertarian communism". On the plus side, it also intrigues and therefore leads to further discussion. "Libertarian socialism" also doesn't have the same stigma attached (socialism is a less dangerous communism for most people).

On the other hand, it helps to just describe one's politics rather than start attaching "all encompassing" words that speak for themselves and prevent further conversation. E.g. "I'm a communist" - "oh fascist dicatorship, right."

Yea, very true. I'm a socialist first, Libertarian Communist second.

[Kaze no Kae]

I didn't mention "neo-"...:confused:
Sorry, I quoted the wrong post :P

[StalinFanboy]

You're a mess, you fully absorb yourself in multiple stances. You're only options are to either create you own political ideology and give it a name, or find one you agree the most about.

Their other option, of course, is to not be so quick to get caught up stupid labels.

[Savior]

Their other option, of course, is to not be so quick to get caught up stupid labels.

Labels are pretty dividing, Socialist is fine for starters.

[Asklepios]

I second all of the comments above about not classifying yourself too narrowly. One problem I have with the left is that we are so damn fragmented that we spend more time disagreeing with each other than organizing to make positive changes in society.

At the end of the day, I just call myself a democratic socialist; which one might argue is a little redundant, actually. So I'm happy with just socialist. I enjoy reading many of the ideas of the leftist thinkers and picking and choosing what I like, keeping an open mind and learning from all of them. If someone calls me a communist, Marxist, or a Leninist; well, I don't really care. The labels suggest that I somehow espouse all of the ideas of each of the respective revolutionary, which is not the case.

So, I'm happy to just be called a socialist. As for you, I don't care what you call yourself. But I will call you comrade. :thumbup1: