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Pirate Utopian
21st December 2010, 00:39
JERUSALEM (AFP) – Members of Palestinian president Mahmud Abbas' Fatah party asked Israel to attack rival Palestinian movement Hamas (http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20101220/wl_mideast_afp/usisraelpalestinianswikileaks#) in 2007, diplomatic cables leaked by whistleblower WikiLeaks show.
The latest batch of cables quote the head of Israel's Shin Bet security agency as telling US officials that "demoralised" Fatah (http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20101220/wl_mideast_afp/usisraelpalestinianswikileaks#) officials in the Gaza Strip had asked for help against the growing strength of Hamas.
"They are approaching a zero-sum situation, and yet they ask us to attack Hamas," Shin Bet (http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20101220/wl_mideast_afp/usisraelpalestinianswikileaks#) chief Yuval Diskin told US officials. "They are desperate."
He went on to praise his organisation's "very good working relationship" with Abbas' security service, which he said shared with the Shin Bet "almost all the intelligence that it collects."
"They understand that Israel's security is central to their survival in the struggle with Hamas in the West Bank (http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20101220/wl_mideast_afp/usisraelpalestinianswikileaks#)," he said during the June 2007 meeting.
Revelations of such close collusion with Israel against fellow Palestinians is likely to embarrass Abbas and Fatah.
Hamas and Fatah have had tense relations for years, and resentment boiled over shortly after the Islamist group (http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20101220/wl_mideast_afp/usisraelpalestinianswikileaks#) won elections in 2006. A year later, shortly after Diskin's comments in 2007, Hamas routed Fatah in bloody fighting in the Gaza Strip and seized control of the coastal enclave.
The leaked cables were part of a flood of US diplomatic files published online by WikiLeaks, angering and embarrassing governments around the world.

Source (http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20101220/wl_mideast_afp/usisraelpalestinianswikileaks)

Comrade Wolfie's Very Nearly Banned Adventures
21st December 2010, 02:39
Not suprising, Hamas and Fatah would both sell the Palestinian people down the river if it ment more power for themselves.

dearest chuck
23rd December 2010, 02:22
up with defunct parties, down with unprincipled unity. long live the DFLP!

RedSonRising
23rd December 2010, 06:49
It's really sad how so many people fail to see that the broader Israeli-Palestinian conflict boils down to two nationalist ruling class struggles for dominance within the region, and cannot be viewed simply as some sort of ethnic war. Intolerance and cultural differences play their part, but not without their manipulation from the war profiteers that move things along.

Can someone show me an informative link to a popular Palestinian party/group description?

freepalestine
23rd December 2010, 09:10
It's really sad how so many people fail to see that the broader Israeli-Palestinian conflict boils down to two nationalist ruling class struggles for dominance within the region, and cannot be viewed simply as some sort of ethnic war. Intolerance and cultural differences play their part, but not without their manipulation from the war profiteers that move things along."2 nationalist ruling class struggles"-it's not that simple.you can't really equate zionism with palestinians nationalism .


Can someone show me an informative link to a popular Palestinian party/group description?there is a palestinian section on revleft ,with posts/links there.
also see: palestineremembered.com (http://palestineremembered.com)a links page etc, there http://palestineremembered.com/Links.html

blake 3:17
24th December 2010, 16:44
Can someone show me an informative link to a popular Palestinian party/group description?

Palestinian politics has a strange dimension -- it`s been based on the defense of a relatively small amount of land but based internationally in a far flung diaspora.

If you want to do something: http://gazafreedommarch.org/cms/en/home.aspx

http://www.boycottisraeliapartheid.org/

http://electronicintifada.net/new.shtml

Kaze no Kae
24th December 2010, 18:32
"2 nationalist ruling class struggles"-it's not that simple.you can't really equate zionism with palestinians nationalism
Of course you can't equate the reality of Zionism with Palestinian nationalism, but you can easily equate many Zionists' perception of Zionism at least with the nationalism of Palestinian exiles.

The point ultimately being that both Fatah and Hamas are factions of the ruling class who only care about their own interests, not those of the Palestinian people, and while they share some common interests with ordinary Palestinians - ie, not being bombed or starved out of existance - they shouldn't be trusted much further than the Zionist state itself

The Vegan Marxist
25th December 2010, 00:15
Where's the cable to this story? I'm not trying to say it's bullshit, but I've read perfectly doctored bullshit about the cables that weren't actually being said in said cables. I think we should clarify this story.

The Vegan Marxist
25th December 2010, 00:22
http://213.251.145.96/cable/2007/06/07TELAVIV1732.html

The link above is the cable. If we actually read the cable, there's no clarification, whatsoever, that the Fatah even talked with Israel. All we have is an American ambassador to Israel talking about using the Fatah against the Hamas. Though, the US ambassador also mentions how the Fatah cannot be lead and can't be used against the Hamas.

The media is spinning this story, like usual, to try and break up the Palestinians against each other.