"Anti-Abrahamic Imperialism"

[gorillafuck]

I noticed this group on revleft, "Anti-Abrahamic Imperialism" and I don't understand what the basis behind this is.

This seems to imply that modern imperialism is religiously motivated. This is unsocialist, the Marxist understanding of imperialism is that it is a force of capital, not one of religion. This form of anti-theism is unsocialist and plays right into the hands of anti-theistic capitalists in arguing that capitalism is not the driving force behind imperialism, but rather belief in god. How can this view be considered an anti-imperialist viewpoint?

[bricolage]

I think it was mainly set up to have a pop at them there muslims that seek to undermine our way of life and force us all to wear burkas and such like.

It doesn't really have anything to do with imperialism.

[Rafiq]

^^^^^^^^^^ Well than I joined the wrong group.

That's Xenophobic bullshit, honestly.

"Muslims seek to undermine our way of life"

Why would they want to do that?

Muslim Clerics, like many Christian Clerics, want to estabilish organized religion to fool their followers to gain profit, like all other religion.

They don't care enough to make you wear a burka. They just want $$$ like everyone else.

Anti-Abrahamic Imperialism, from my view, isn't current Anti Abrahamic imperialism, it is when Abrahamics in the past thousand years waged holy wars on other nations, either with each other, or places in India, ect.

[bricolage]

I was being sarcastic.

[khad]

It was originally a group formed to troll the anti-Zionist group, so you kiddos aren't too far off the bat.

[Rafiq]

I was being sarcastic.

Well you didn't do a very good job with that.

[bricolage]

Well you didn't do a very good job with that.
You thought "them there muslims that seek to undermine our way of life and force us all to wear burkas and such like" was serious?
The internet has changed.

[Crimson Commissar]

You thought "them there muslims that seek to undermine our way of life and force us all to wear burkas and such like" was serious?
The internet has changed.
Well considering how many people on revleft seriously believe that anti-theists are islamophobic racists, you can't really blame him for thinking you were serious.

[gorillafuck]

Well considering how many people on revleft seriously believe that anti-theists are islamophobic racists, you can't really blame him for thinking you were serious.
When western anti-theists focus on Islam more than other religions it is Islamophobic (it's different if you're in a Muslim country), and when they think that we should be opposing radical Islamists in the UK (lol, as if there is some sort of Islamist threat in the UK), it is buying into Islamophobic propaganda. Both which have been on this site.

I'm not necessarily accusing you specifically of that (I don't know if you do either of those), but those have been on this website. Some militant atheists also supported the blatantly racist and Muslim scapegoating burka ban in France.

[synthesis]

considering how many people on revleft seriously believe that anti-theists are islamophobic racists

Certainly not the majority; there is some undeniable overlap, however.

[Rafiq]

Islamism is a threat to the working class and Socialism in mostly Muslim populated areas.

However, it isn't much of a threat in Europe.

Wherever Religious organizations are a threat to the working class, we should oppose them, such as in the middle east, opposing Islamists.

But in the same sense, we should oppose political religious organizations in the rest of the world, wherever they may be.

[Rafiq]

Well considering how many people on revleft seriously believe that anti-theists are islamophobic racists, you can't really blame him for thinking you were serious.

Many Anti Theists outline Islam out of Xenophobia and 'Islamophobia'(pretty much xenophobia)

Although I am opposed to religion, the biggest threat to the working class is in fact Capitalism and the Bourgeoisie inflaming it.

We should pay more attention to that, but when religious organizations are a threat, we should be quick to oppose them.