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Comrade1
19th December 2010, 03:35
Guys, I'm stuck here. I'm in 7th grade and a die hard communist but most kids in my class say to me "Why do you care about politics". What do I do to help them uderstand, I go to a "rich-kid" school even though im no where near rich.
Apoi_Viitor
19th December 2010, 03:42
http://www.revleft.com/vb/high-school-commie-t22370/index.html
Comrade1
19th December 2010, 03:43
http://www.revleft.com/vb/high-school-commie-t22370/index.html
I understand but they dont even come back with those arguments, they just say "who cares". All I can do is debate with ignorant close-minded teachers.
Burn A Flag
19th December 2010, 04:07
Honestly you may be happier if you just leave it alone. I know from personal experience how frustrating it can be to debate with people about the left. I've probably converted a total of like 1 or 2 people to the left. Honestly most people don't want to talk about politics, which you should respect unless you want to be socially ostracized. However, if kids are asking questions, you should try to answer them. By the way NEVER get pissed off or yell or escalate or take yourself too seriously. Yelling at someone doesn't make them see your point of view. You're only in 7th grade, while this may be an ageist comment, (im only 17 btw) there is like no political discussion in middle school, so don't be the one to bring it up. However, if there is an existing conversation, jump in and be polite. Don't bring up anything too radical either, like saying "fuck the troops or something.
Talking about things like that is just going to disenfranchise more people. If you want, talk about how orders from the top are exploiting our troops etc. But if no one wants to debate, leave it. Maybe if you have any leftist friends you can organize but otherwise leave it. High school is a bit more political than middle school. Just about every day at lunch I debate with a social Darwinist.
Ocean Seal
19th December 2010, 04:11
For the apathetic you must make them care. Bring the problem closer to them. Perhaps you might not make a very large dent because as you describe it you go to a "rich kid" high school. I need more information regarding the source of their apathy. This might not be the most motivating response, but I'm sure that you can find an issue that appeals to them even if it is a tangential issue.
Not everyone will listen to you, but look to kids away from the norm if the norm turns you away. Bring this to a closer basis, focus on the core ideals: solidarity and equality. May you inspire your comrades to fight the good fight.
Comrade1
19th December 2010, 04:18
For the apathetic you must make them care. Bring the problem closer to them. Perhaps you might not make a very large dent because as you describe it you go to a "rich kid" high school. I need more information regarding the source of their apathy. This might not be the most motivating response, but I'm sure that you can find an issue that appeals to them even if it is a tangential issue.
Not everyone will listen to you, but look to kids away from the norm if the norm turns you away. Bring this to a closer basis, focus on the core ideals: solidarity and equality. May you inspire your comrades to fight the good fight.
"Rich kid" middle school. I tryed that and one kid said that ohh well your utopia can never work, I simply said, "who are you to decide what can work and what cant" he walked away.
Broletariat
19th December 2010, 04:58
"Rich kid" middle school. I tryed that and one kid said that ohh well your utopia can never work, I simply said, "who are you to decide what can work and what cant" he walked away.
It probably would've been better to ask him why it wouldn't work, and then proceed to demolish him logically.
Also try to go with the whole "first they came for the jews..." type argument where, hey it's not affecting you today (even though it affects everyone) but one day it'll hit you hard.
Comrade1
19th December 2010, 05:01
It probably would've been better to ask him why it wouldn't work, and then proceed to demolish him logically.
Also try to go with the whole "first they came for the jews..." type argument where, hey it's not affecting you today (even though it affects everyone) but one day it'll hit you hard.
That seems logical, thanks
Broletariat
19th December 2010, 05:02
That seems logical, thanks
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