Japan:China is the biggest threat

[Bandito]

Japan needs to focus on the rise of China and not the Cold War threat of Russia in defining its security goals, according to new defence guidelines announced Friday.
The guidelines, which were approved by the cabinet, also call for a stronger alliance with the U.S. — Japan's biggest ally — and expanded security networks with regional partners, including South Korea and Australia.


Source (http://www.cbc.ca/world/story/2010/12/17/japan-china-military.html)

[The Vegan Marxist]

China has one of the greatest advancement in statistics under both economic and social rights to their people. Of course they're going to be perceived as a threat by the ultra-capitalist nations, such as Japan. As limited as it may be, there's growing tensions taking place between US/ROK/Japan and the DPRK/PRC.

[Bandito]

Of course they're going to be perceived as a threat by the ultra-capitalist nations, such as Japan.
China is also an ultra-capitalist nation. Even more than Japan.

[The Vegan Marxist]

China is also an ultra-capitalist nation. Even more than Japan.

That's bullshit. Though, I'm not going to get into this argument again. Too many were made in the past.

[scarletghoul]

Im sorry, who has 10000s of troops in Japanese territory again ??

You know a country is an imperial master when its military presence is called 'security', and other countries are called a threat

[gorillafuck]

China is also an ultra-capitalist nation. Even more than Japan.
China is capitalist but not moreso than Japan.

[IndependentCitizen]

Hell, rather be under Chinese rule than American. Not a dig at Americans, but more at your government. I personally see China as capitalist, more Social democratic (to some extent)

[The Vegan Marxist]

It's best to see China under a mixed economy. Where both Socialist and Capitalist relations are present. China is clearly still on the capitalist road.

Having said that, they're still a threat by the ultra-capitalist nations, and many seek to transition China's mixed economy into a Western-styled capitalist system. We see this, clearly, through the US's stance on the nobel peace price to pro-capitalist dissident, Liu Xiaobo.

[empiredestoryer]

japan speaks with a u.s voice the same u.s voice that dropped two atomic bombs on japan that left millions dead

[DragonQuestWes]

You know, the "US-Japan military alliance" is nothing more than just US military occupation of Japan.

We all know the only reason why the "alliance" even exists is because the US blackmailed Japan into being their ally after WWII.

At least the way I see it: US ally = US-military occupied nation

[Tablo]

You guys talking good about China really have never been to the country have you? I would much rather live in the US than China. There is so much pollution in the cities you can barely breathe and the countryside lacks proper development in many regions.

[The Vegan Marxist]

You guys talking good about China really have never been to the country have you? I would much rather live in the US than China. There is so much pollution in the cities you can barely breathe and the countryside lacks proper development in many regions.

You do realize that China is still considered a Third World country, right? Due to its under-development.

[Tablo]

You do realize that China is still considered a Third World country, right? Due to its under-development.
Actually the term "third-world" is no longer officially in use and yes, I do realize it is still underdeveloped.

[The Vegan Marxist]

Actually the term "third-world" is no longer officially in use and yes, I do realize it is still underdeveloped.

Then I don't think bashing China for being less developed than the US is excusable, given the fact that it is underdeveloped, in which China doesn't even hide themselves.

[Stranger Than Paradise]

It's best to see China under a mixed economy. Where both Socialist and Capitalist relations are present. China is clearly still on the capitalist road.


It's not fair to say Socialist relations are present in a mixed economy. Keynesianism isn't Socialism.

[Tablo]

Then I don't think bashing China for being less developed than the US is excusable, given the fact that it is underdeveloped, in which China doesn't even hide themselves.
I wasn't bashing them for that. Also they aren't considered under-developed. They are currently considered developing or "second world".

[MarxSchmarx]

You know, the "US-Japan military alliance" is nothing more than just US military occupation of Japan.

We all know the only reason why the "alliance" even exists is because the US blackmailed Japan into being their ally after WWII.



Say what? First of all, there is no US military occupation of Japan. There are bases which the Japanese elite sees as very, very convenient (if occasionally embarrassing).

Actually the alliance exists because Japanese politicians, recognizing they shared a maritime border with the USSR, and a few hours boat ride away, saw American military presence as a deterrent - not unlike Cuban nuclear missiles. Moreover, the Japanese capitalist class has prospered immensely under the favorable status they've been given by advancing American interests in the region, to the point of the alliance being really a liability for the Americans after the reapproachment with China and the end of the cold war.


japan speaks with a u.s voice the same u.s voice that dropped two atomic bombs on japan that left millions dead


Dead civilians do not keep the Japanese ruling class awake at night.

[Thirsty Crow]

It's not fair to say Socialist relations are present in a mixed economy. Keynesianism isn't Socialism.
Give it up, the guy will never learn. It's safer to cling on to illusions than face the reality of the situation.

[RedHal]

You guys talking good about China really have never been to the country have you? I would much rather live in the US than China. There is so much pollution in the cities you can barely breathe and the countryside lacks proper development in many regions.

yeah and many would like to be white and enjoy white priviledge. God damn third world, underdeveloped countries so dirty and filthy:rolleyes: