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RedSonRising

16th December 2010, 04:23

Boxing is a truly global sport that has demonstrated over decades professional fighters with a level of skill, dedication, natural ability, and heart that is seldom found in any other sport. Sadly, the lack of unified organization and promotion along with other coinciding factors has allowed boxing to recede as a mainstream sport and become an after thought of mainstream sports fans.

However these last few months proved that there is still a fresh and exciting generation of fighters new and old, each with their own stories and styles, ready to risk their lives for their countries and fans.

I hope to start being able to communicate with other boxing fans here who share my passion for the sweet science, and perhaps let others who are unfamiliar look into the dramatic world of boxing and possibly find they can relate to the savage yet sophisticated nature of two men proving the worth of their existence by imposing their will in each other with nothing but their hearts and fists.

This year has been a lag, but the last two months had amazing back-to-back fights. I'll post some highlights here; each of these is a candidate for fight of the year, with a third link almost certainly being the KO of the year. hope you guys enjoy!

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RedSonRising

16th December 2010, 04:28

err..bit anticlimactic without the youtube video windows appearing...how do you do that again?

FreeFocus

16th December 2010, 04:44

RedSonRising

16th December 2010, 05:35

I need to watch that Amir Khan fight from this past weekend. I'm a boxing fan but not a huge aficionado because it's so hard to keep track of all the bright prospects and top fighters. I watch the big fights and some Friday Night Fights. I'm following David Lemieux's career now because that knockout of Ayala was beautiful. Nice, crisp technique from that dude.

Lemieux is a great fighter to watch for exactly the reasons you stated.

Khan-Maidana was definitely fight of the year...I won't ruin anything but rest assured, his chin is no longer glass. It's one of the links. (HOW DO I MAKE THE WINDOWS APPEAR :cursing:)

I can see where you're coming from with the hard-to-follow angle, if you want I can let you know anytime a quality fight will be on, whether it be championship fights or prospects coming up. :thumbup1:

ComradeOm

17th December 2010, 12:09

RedSonRising

17th December 2010, 14:11

Didn't watch Khan-Maidana because I still had the sour taste of Haye-Harrison in my mouth. There are still great fighters out there but they are still incredibly ill-served by this sport and the authorities that 'run' it

Don't use the full links, just the youTube identifier. So only put jfbbUhIH1a4, for example, within the brackets

Yea, that fight was a huge disappointment. Khan-Maidana will wash that taste right out though, believe me. The fighters in the clips i showed are sure to provide excitement in the next year or so with the way they've been performing. Sometimes not even the most corrupt and disorganized establishments within the sport can stop these guys from putting on a show.

(Also, thanks for the advice.)

RedSonRising

18th December 2010, 00:06

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Young talented champion fighting out of Quebec VS 45 year old veteran Bernard Hopkins, the crafty technician. Who will win?

FreeFocus

23rd December 2010, 06:52

That Khan fight was awesome. I like Khan's style and he showed a good chin in the fight, but he can still tighten his defense up.

I'm watching the Hopkins/Pascal fight now, on the 8th round..Did Pascal forget how to punch after round 3 or something? He's pissing me off, I want to see Hopkins just get destroyed because he talks shit about MMA.

I.Drink.Your.Milkshake

23rd December 2010, 19:57

Khan - Madaina was a great, great, great fight.

Hopkins was robbed. Ok, he was down twice, but then went on to win rounds 4 through 12.

115-111 to Hopkins on my card.

Ones to watch from the UK - Nathan Cleverly (light-heavyweight), James DeGale (super middleweight) and Kell Brook (middleweight). All will be fighting for world titles within the next 2 years.

Tyson Fury... juries out. He's a big guy, and uses his jab well but badly needs rounds and more skill work.

FreeFocus

2nd January 2011, 21:37

What does everyone think about Pacquiao-Mosley? I think it's a mismatch and after Mosley got worked against Mayweather, I don't think he should be fighting the best welterweight. Boxing is just a conundrum, stuff like this is ridiculous. Pacquiao/Mayweather should have happened a long ass time ago.

RedSonRising

5th January 2011, 23:50

Hopkins did a great job of taking away Pascal's gameplan by disrupting his rhythm offensively and counterpunching/using movement defensively, very reminiscent of what he did to Pavlik. I thought he deserved the nod. His comments about MMA were ignorant but you got to give him props as a veteran technical master.

Pacquiao-Mosley is a really bad fight. Mosley is shot, had his mouth open after the 2nd round against Mayweather and had no snap in his punches or reflexes or stamina against Mora either. Pac could have fought JMM or Berto or Martinez, each which have their drawbacks, but all much more game than Mosley. I don't wanna see Sugar Shane get hurt or have his legacy diminished at this stage in his career since he used to be truly great. Fuck Arum, but Pacquiao could also do more as he is the one fighting.

I'm looking forward to Cotto-Mayorga. I want to see Emmanuel Steward improve Cotto further for a potential Margarito rematch.

Milkshake, thanks for the UK prospect shoutouts.

ComradeOm

6th January 2011, 13:47

FreeFocus

6th January 2011, 18:10

One interesting subtext that I've been hearing is the suggestion that Pacquiao has never fought an African-American fighter. Some figures in the sport have basically insinuated that he's ducking African-Americans because he's apparently unable to cope with their unique 'style'. Which strikes me as bizarre (and not a little racist) but it seems to be a factor underlying the choice of Mosley

Well, African-American fighters have brought that up themselves, but it's just silliness. That's one of the bad aspects of boxing, the ethnic rivalries and stuff. It's annoying. Clearly Pacquiao isn't a racist. His politics are a little suspect (he ran for a center-right, at the least, party in the Philippines), but he isn't a racist. It could've played a role in putting the Mosley fight together, but no one wants to see this, so yeah.

RedSonRising

11th January 2011, 02:54

The 140 division is continuing to get hot with undefeated US champions Timothy Bradley and Devon Alexander competing to unify the championship, with the winner likely fighting Amir Khan to see who the best at the division is. Both of these guys are hungry and have skills & talent.

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RedSonRising

19th January 2011, 22:22

10 days until two of the best champions in the sport face off as the road to determine who the undisputed best at 140 really is continues!!

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Also some good news is that the loser is most likely going to fight Maidana, which is great, because styles make fights and losses shouldn't let relatively young and good fighters fade into obscurity.

pastradamus

20th January 2011, 02:58

One interesting subtext that I've been hearing is the suggestion that Pacquiao has never fought an African-American fighter. Some figures in the sport have basically insinuated that he's ducking African-Americans because he's apparently unable to cope with their unique 'style'. Which strikes me as bizarre (and not a little racist) but it seems to be a factor underlying the choice of Mosley

It is bizzare to state this. I've been watching pacquiao for years now and for my money is the best pound for pound in the world. I agree that this was just a Mosley propaganda stunt really. Because if you actually look at it the lower weights in modern boxing are not dominated by african-americans as say, middleweight or heavier weights are but are in fact dominated by and latin americans, so if anything its the latinos which seem to have the most effective "style" at these weights. Besides, its not like Pacquiao wanted to avoid african-american boxers - the most prominent African american boxer in the world has been avoiding pacquiao for over a year now!

goldenboy2421

21st January 2011, 23:18

Mayweather is tooo scared to fight Paquioa lol haha

RedSonRising

22nd January 2011, 01:23

Mayweather is tooo scared to fight Paquioa lol haha

What is the general consensus on Mayweather-Pacquiao? Floyd is the betting favorite but I feel generally most go with Manny on activity. They are both stylistically challenging for each other.

I.Drink.Your.Milkshake

23rd January 2011, 02:33

Id go Pacquiao over Mayweather.

RedSonRising

28th January 2011, 17:36

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THE FIGHT IS ON TOMMORROW!

Any predictions?

Kalifornia

28th January 2011, 18:09

Boxing is terrible these days.

FreeFocus

29th January 2011, 00:49

These videos got me pumped for the Alexander/Bradley fight. It just sucks that the time conflicts with Strikeforce tomorrow, so I'll probably watch the fight online on Sunday. Should be good. I honestly don't know enough to make an informed prediction but I'm leaning towards Alexander. His punching looks cleaner and he seems to be the better athlete.

RedSonRising

29th January 2011, 05:27

Boxing is terrible these days.

You only have to look a bit more closely to see the same beautiful aspects of the sport that never went away to begin with, in order to see past the bullshit.

FreeFocus

30th January 2011, 04:59

Heard the fight was a stinker. I'll watch it tomorrow but I'm glad I watched Strikeforce over it.

RedSonRising

30th January 2011, 21:03

Not a great fight, but Bradley vs Khan should be an impressive display with lots of activity.

RedSonRising

19th February 2011, 07:45

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Sorry for the late heads up. Tonight is one of the biggest fights for boxing to be made, with Fernando Montiel and Nonito Donaire facing off for Bantamweight Division (118 lbs) Supremacy. Montiel has a lot of durability, experience, can counter well, and has dynamite in both hands that can change the fight at any moment. Nonito "Filipino Flash" has a dynamic style which incorporates blinding speed and movement, and he also packs a punch with a very high knockout ratio.

There is no way this fight cannot live up to the hype; this will end in a knockout. The best fighting the best with explosive style matchups- what's not to like? Don't miss it! Boxing needs but for you to tune in to reward your eyes.

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RedSonRising

20th February 2011, 20:39

Anyone catch the fight? In case you missed it, here's the 2nd Round knockdown (leading up to the TKO) by the Filipino Flash! Amazing punch, this elite fighter has a bright future.

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RedSonRising

3rd March 2011, 05:14

Yo!

This Friday rising star Saul "Canelo" Alvarez (20 yrs old) is fighting Matthew Hatton for the vacant WBC Light Middleweight Title. Alvarez is a good prospect with good power and talent, whose getting better as he continues in his career. Also funny that he's a Mexican Ginger. Should be a good fight!

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I.Drink.Your.Milkshake

6th March 2011, 21:04

Haye-Klitschko finally looks like its on in June/July then.

Klitschko in 10.

RedSonRising

8th March 2011, 13:21

Haye-Klitschko finally looks like its on in June/July then.

Klitschko in 10.

I'm glad the fight is being made; this is probably the biggest fight to be made behind Mayweather-Pacquiao. Haye is a great athlete and will make things interesting, but like you I'd probably favor Klitschko.

IN OTHER NEWS, big night for boxing this Saturday. First off, Junior Middleweight Champion Miguel Cotto is going to show off how much further he has progressed under Hall of Fame trainer Emmanuel Steward by taking on trash-talking wild-man Ricardo Mayorga. Mayorga is past his best, but he has a significant size advantage, a reckless come-forward style, serious power, and a granite chin. His jeers are pure gold, especially contrasted against Cotto's cool demeanor, and he'll be sure to make things interesting inside the ring as well. Cotto will try to keep him off balance on the outside, but punish him on the inside with short punches and trademark left hook to the body and head. I'd be surprised if this one doesn't end in a knockout!

This is a good fight for Cotto who is likely going to get a rematch against Margarito, whose solid chin and relentless pressure made Cotto cave in his first ever defeat, before later being caught with illegal handwraps raising questions about their first encounter.

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On the same night, Sergio Martinez coming off his sensational KO of the year victory against Paul Williams will be taking on tough undefeated tactician Sergiy Dzinziruk. Martinez's fleet-footed unorthodox southpaw counter-punching style will have to compete with Dzinziruk's straight-punching and smothering offense. Both fighters can box smart but punch with intent. This will definitely be a treat for the fans. Don't miss either of these exciting fights and elite fighters doing what they do best!

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(BTW, I hope you guys are liking the way I lay out the updates. Trying to make sure everyone gets a heads up for a chance to catch the good ones :thumbup1:)

RedSonRising

12th March 2011, 08:19

The Fighters have weighed in!!
Predictions???
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RedSonRising

17th March 2011, 08:08

Hey guys, here are some post-fight pics of the Cotto-Mayorga and Martinez-Dzinzuruk bouts. Both great fights.

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Showtime will be replaying the Cotto fight (US) for free before showing the Lucian Bute fight on Saturday. Before that one, however, Klitschko-Solis will be going down in Germany, with Vitaly Klitschko defending his Heavyweight Championship against Cuban Odlanier Solis, famous for beating Felix Savant and David Haye in the amateurs and winning Olympic Gold for Cuba. He has decent fundamentals, good hand-speed and mobility; a bit of a weight problem, but decent stamina. Vitaly is expected to use his height and reach to land his veteran jab and hard straight right, as usual. This opponent may prove more live than previous ones. They're also showing this on the big screen in Times Square, and for free online in the US at the Epix website.

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Like I said before, later on is Bute-Magee for the Super-Middleweight championship. Bute is loved in Canada and hailed as a great fighter, but his competition has been disappointing as of light. Magee is a veteran who could make it a tough fight, but Bute is favored to win. He will likely go on to challenge the winner of the Super Six tournament stacked with talent.

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coda

17th March 2011, 22:24

RedSonRising

24th March 2011, 23:29

<< Boxing is terrible these days >>

The boxing itself is not so much as terrible as the exclusive promotion of it. In the 1970's, top ranking fights were shown on network tv (US) regularly. You didn't pay a dime to see it or later have to subscribe to premium channels.

MSG channel is airing today (right now and Sunday) archived fights of Irish middleweight John Duddy (for St. Patrick's day I would assume). He abruptly retired in Jan 2011, leaving a nice solid record of 29-2-0, 18 ko, and a scheduled unfought fight against fellow Irish Andy Lee, that was to take place a few days ago

I discovered this highly interesting factoid about him (I know to Irish comrades this is old news). Duddy's 17-year old uncle, also an amateur boxer in Ireland, was the first casualty of Ireland's Bloody Sunday.

http://www.troopsoutmovement.com/bloodysunday.htm

http://www.bloodysundaytrust.org/bsi/BSI-media-pack-pdf.pdf

Anyhow,Duddy is fighting Anthony Bonsante at the moment. If anyone remembers the Sylvester Stallone-Sugar Ray Leonard created boxing reality show that only ran a a few seasons called "The Contender", Bonsante was one of the amateur fighters on the show. I loved that show. Bring it back, yeah!!!!!

Thanks a lot for those links. Interesting about Duddy's uncle. I thought after Chavez Jr. he was done, glad to see him still fighting. Got the results of those bouts?

This weekend is full of Cubans!

This Friday on ESPN's Friday Night Fights, hot Cuban prospect Erislandy Lara will be fighting Mexico's Carlos Molina. Molina has been known to upset prospects and comes to fight, so this should be a competitive fight and a good test for Lara and his touted boxing abilities. This is definitely a fighter to watch.

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Saturday Night on HBO, Yuriyorkis Gamboa takes on Jorge Solis. Gamboa has gotten far with his Cuban Amateur fundamentals and athleticism much like Rigondeaux and Lara, but this is his toughest test yet. Jorge Solis has decent skills, power, pressure, and experience. Gamboa has been dropped in his last few fights and has shown a bit of vulnerability throughout his career. Don't miss it! Gamboa is a Pound-for-Pound star in the making.

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(Remember that you can always FNF on ESPN's live stream player, and it's not hard to find an HBO or Showtime stream, for those outside the US.)

Pretty Flaco

2nd April 2011, 16:55

RedSonRising

5th April 2011, 08:10

Khan vs McCloskey fight is coming up in like two weeks! I'm a big fan of Khan, so I'm excited. :cool:

I think it's only showing on HBO though... So I might only be able to see the highlights and only AFTER the match. Unless if the new TV network we just bought has a boxing channel we haven't found yet.

Khan shows the most promise to me as far as the sport's future stardom. Top athletic talent, likable persona, exciting style, technically sound, and lots of heart. He should impress against McCloskey. If you don't have HBO, poke around the internet for a stream.

For those who didn't see Gamboa a few weeks ago, he looked sensational. He made quick work of his very game opponent, disposing of him quicker than Pacquiao did.

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This weekend is going to be full of WARS! :thumbup:
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First, this Friday has some good match-ups in the 130 division for titles. A likely opponent to emerge for Gamboa is Hasegawa, a very solid fighter. Then, Lemieux, who has impressed with his power and fundamentals and has a solid Canadian fanbase, will be fighting Marco Antonio Rubio in a title eliminator. Both will be shown this Friday, on Showtime and ESPN (both which you can stream).

Saturday, HBO is putting on a stacked card labeled "Action Heroes", and rightly so; all of the match-ups are guaranteed to produce fireworks. On the under-card is Paulie Malignaggi vs Jose Cotto, as well as rising 154 knockout artist James Kirkland.

The two biggest fights will be Michael Katsidis vs Robert Guerrero, and Marcos Maidana vs Erik Morales. Katsidis and Guerrero are two of the best Lightweights in the world and are fighting for supremacy right behind the likes of Juan Manuel Marquez. For all his flaws against losing against Marquez, Katsidis showed technical improvement, along with the same relentless pressure and one-punch power. Guerrero has looked unimpressive in the past, but showed he has great technique and some power of his own in his last bout. With an edge in skill and reach, Guerrero will have to be real sharp to keep Katsidis from smothering him. Both will be looking for an impressive K.O.

Following that will be the Main Event: Erik Morales VS Marcos Maidana. Morales has been known for both his technical prowess and balls-to-the-wall Mexican style that comes out whenever challenged, and he was the last man to decisively beat Pacquiao, by decision. He has faded however, and he faces Maidana, who in his losing effort against Amir Khan, showed hes one resilient bastard on top of being the biggest puncher in his division. While Morales will have a tough time trying to outbox Maidana, this fight guarantees fireworks while it lasts.

If you want to see what the sport has to offer, tune in this weekend. Check the clips!!!!!

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FreeFocus

10th April 2011, 03:21

Strikeforce is on right now so I'm watching that, but I'll check out Maidana/Morales tomorrow.

FreeFocus

10th April 2011, 19:30

RedSonRising

15th April 2011, 07:35

Fucking A. I haven't checked a boxing site in like two weeks and just saw that Lemieux got TKO'd. Hopefully he comes back stronger. I watched the first round just now and Lemieux was doing well so I guess he got taken into deep waters and worked over by someone with more experience.

I think he can come back strong; he was rushed. Just look at Khan after he got viciously KO'd. Same thing just happened to Kirkland. Better to learn from defeat than get exposed under the big lights by being overly protected. This keeps young fighters grounded and willing to improve.

For those of you who missed last weekend, Veteran All Time Great Erik Morales proved everyone wrong by nearly beating (succeeding, by some people's scorecards) in outboxing Marcos Maidana in a WAR! Guerrero and Katsidis was a good fight as well, with Guerrero using his reach and skills to outfight Katsidis to a decision.
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For some reason the weekends just keep giving good fights this year! Next up, Puerto Rican star Juan Manuel Lopez will be fighting Mexican Orlando Salido on Showtime. Salido is a skilled and experience opponent who dropped Gamboa in his last fight. Lopez is known to be open and chinny, so this is a real test for him. Gamboa and Lopez are likely to meet soon down the road once they clean out the division further.

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In England (and on HBO's delayed broadcast before Berto-Ortiz), Amir Khan is fighting southpaw Paul McCloskey. This is likely going to be a dominating performance from Khan, but Paul's uppercuts and inside game along with his southpaw stance could prove interesting. Khan showed vulnerability to this in the Maidana fight. Hopefully he'll show us improvements against in his inside game, which he has none of right now haha.

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Probably the most exciting fight coming up is Victor Ortiz vs Andre Berto. Berto is one of the most talented Welterweights out there right now, undefeated, but has yet to secure a very impressive win and has left questions about his durability unanswered. Ortiz, moving up from 140, has a lot to prove since quitting in an upset (after being touted as the next big star) to puncher Marcos Maidana on his feet, saying he was "too young to get hit like that". Clearly he's trying to rebuild his career & reputation, and he's been talking with a lot of confidence and hunger. He has a big punch, solid skills, and great hand speed, but Berto can match him in these areas as well. Both have something to prove, both are top talents. This is a make or break fight for both fighters that's sure to be violent. I hope you guys tune in on this one.

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*(Remember, it's not hard to find a stream if you poke on the net if you can't get access via TV.)

RedSonRising

22nd April 2011, 08:53

Did ANYONE see the string of upsets last weekend?! Ortiz came out and fought like a demon-possessed fighter and upset Berto in his own natural weight class, giving him his first loss in what might be the FOTY so far, while undefeated prospect Juan Manuel Lopez was pretty much derailed by getting stopped in his first ever loss against Salido!
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I really hope that at least some of you guys out there are catching some of these fights. All the shit people talk about the sport pisses me off because it can deliver upsets and competitive fights and elite displays of skill and heart for consecutive weeks, and the shit promotion and marketing gives people the impression the sport's not worth a look. We have a new great contender in the welterweight division in Ortiz and a mixing of the landscape in the Featherweight division. It's depressing to think of how many people would enjoy it if they only knew! I hope the guys that check the thread appreciate the updates.

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This Friday on Friday Night Fights, Colombian Brieidis Prescott (famous for giving Amir Khan his first and only embarrassing knockout defeat) is taking on Mongolian Bayan Jangal, with a good prospect and opponent on the undercard. Trying to get a Khan rematch is his perogative, so he'll be trying to impress, and like virtually all Colombians, he can really punch. Saturday night, another Colombian Yonnhy Perez who was bumped down from the Bantamweight tournament will be facing off against former champion Vic Darchinyian, who is coming off a string of losses starting with Nonito Donaire, after a long dominant run. Both need to make a statement in order to advance in the division and their styles should produce a great fight!

RedSonRising

2nd May 2011, 08:49

Hey guys. Pacquiao-Mosley is coming up this weekend. I'm not a fan of this fight since there's better competition out there for Pacquiao, but at least he ALWAYS gives an exciting performance. He's looking to make a statement and top Mayweather's performance against this once-great veteran. Ten years ago, this fight would have been an All Time Great Fight, but it's still going to be action-packed. CBS's promotion has helped create more of a buzz for this fight, for Pacquiao, and the sport in general. Here is the latest Fightcamp 360 episode.

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RedSonRising

6th May 2011, 22:15

The Pacquiao-Mosley fight is tommorrow!!! You guys can catch the last episode of Fightcamp 360 on Showtime tonight. It should be online relatively soon after it airs. This should be a war while it lasts!
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Metacomet

8th May 2011, 03:28

Pay per view is lame.

RED DAVE

8th May 2011, 17:17

Boxing is a form of brutality in which members of the ruling class pay members of the exploited classes to injure and occasionally kill each other in public for fun and profit.

RED DAVE

RedSonRising

10th May 2011, 07:21

Boxing is a form of brutality in which members of the ruling class pay members of the exploited classes to injure and occasionally kill each other in public for fun and profit.

RED DAVE

Very true, but I like to see it as an art-form invoking the raw instincts of humanity, designed to propel individuals out of their misery through passionate dedication. I like to cheer those working class individuals on as they try to better their lives through fascinating displays of heart and craftsmanship.

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I'll have highlights of the Pacquiao-Mosley fight up soon.

This Saturday, the semi-finals of the Super 6 Super-Middleweight tournament advance with Andre Ward, a top ten ranked boxer, facing Arthur Abraham, the extremely dangerous European puncher. Abraham has been dominated twice by fighters with outside fighting styles, and while Ward has the skills to pick him apart, he'll have to get close and smother him-dangerous territory to be in if not careful, because one punch could end the night. This should be a good one, tune in!
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Also, the rematch of 45 year old Bernard Hopkins and Canadian champion Montreal is taking place on May 21st. The first fight ended in a controversial draw, with Hopkins getting dropped twice early, but dominating a vast majority of the remaining rounds. This time, Hopkins is determined to win convincingly and become the oldest Champion in the history of boxing. Witness history as these two face off again. It's sure to be explosive. Watch a master boxer and veteran and try to put his name in the history books by facing a young lion trying to keep his championship title.

This face-off is the best one I've seen yet. Real animosity and competitive drive in both of them.

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RED DAVE

10th May 2011, 12:26

Boxing is a form of brutality in which members of the ruling class pay members of the exploited classes to injure and occasionally kill each other in public for fun and profit.
Very true, but I like to see it as an art-form invoking the raw instincts of humanity, designed to propel individuals out of their misery through passionate dedication. I like to cheer those working class individuals on as they try to better their lives through fascinating displays of heart and craftsmanship.

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Real animosity and competitive drive in both of them.Why not just get it over with and watch clips from US fighting in Iraq and Afghanistan? Frankly, Comrade, I'd be ashamed to post this kind of fascistic shit.

RED DAVE

Madvillainy

10th May 2011, 13:16

red dave stop talkin out ur fuckin ass.

Comrade J

10th May 2011, 15:26

Why not just get it over with and watch clips from US fighting in Iraq and Afghanistan? Frankly, Comrade, I'd be ashamed to post this kind of fascistic shit.

RED DAVE

I'd be ashamed to post shit in which I describe someone's enjoyment of a sport involving two millionaires fighting as 'fascist'. Fascism is an authoritarian nationalist ideology built on corporatism, or as Mussolini put it "the marriage of corporation and the state." It has fuck all to do with boxing.

I'd also be ashamed to be so egotistical to end every post I write with my username in big red fucking letters. You need to chill the fuck out.

RED DAVE

10th May 2011, 15:56

Comrade J

10th May 2011, 16:09

So, i guess I've gotten the goat of people who enjoy watching members of the working class harm and even kill each other for your fun and someone else's profit.

Most professional boxers are poor, unsuccessful, and end up with permanent injuries from this "sport." Again, why don't you just watch war clips. It's even more fun from that perspective.

Comrades, it's time for boxing to go the way of bear baiting, ratting, cock fighting, dog fighting and other delights left over from the Middle Ages.

RED DAVE

I quite like boxing, but not enough to be offended or care in any way if someone says something against it. The problem here Dave is your relentless hostility to anything you perceive to be outside your myopic dogmatic worldview.

Boxing can be dangerous and potentially damaging, but then so can a million other things that people do for adrenaline rushes and pleasure. Your view that it is merely exploitative and nothing more is laughable; boxing and other forms of competitive fighting are prevalent across all cultures around the world, and not always for purposes of profit (for instance, European gypsy and traveller culture).

Like with anything that is popular and marketable, capitalists are going to seize on it (music for instance) and try to profit from it - but the problem there is with the capitalist system, not some inherent flaw in the past-time itself. Plus if you were to be so dull and dogmatic then you could look at all sport as a mere distraction from social ills - why else would governments put so much funding into it? Regardless of that fact, it doesn't mean sport itself is wrong or "fascist" as you insist on calling everything, like some 12 year old who has just read Motorcycle Diaries. Also keep in mind that the fights discussed in this thread are professional fights fought between extremely rich boxers for great prizes.

And seriously, why do you insist on putting your name at the end of every post, what are you hoping to achieve with that?

RED DAVE

11th May 2011, 11:47

I quite like boxing, but not enough to be offended or care in any way if someone says something against it.How generous of you. Shows a really big heart. :rolleyes:

The problem here Dave is your relentless hostility to anything you perceive to be outside your myopic dogmatic worldview.You insist that it's cool to watch a sport that is bloody, potential lethal, harms virtually every professional in it and is exploitative, but I'm myopic and dogmatic.

Boxing can be dangerous and potentially damagingBoxing is always dangerous as its purpose is to harm the opponent. According to this source, between 1998 and 2006 there were 70 deaths from boxing.

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but then so can a million other things that people do for adrenaline rushes and pleasure. Your view that it is merely exploitative and nothing more is laughable; boxing and other forms of competitive fighting are prevalent across all cultures around the world, and not always for purposes of profit (for instance, European gypsy and traveller culture).You're a mealy-mouthed equivocator. Whatever else happens or doesn't happen under capitalism does not take away from the inherent brutality of professional boxing.

Like with anything that is popular and marketable, capitalists are going to seize on it (music for instance) and try to profit from itThe music industry is not characterized by the the attempt to knock an opponent out through blows to the head and body, which causes permanent harm.

According to the American Association of Neurological Surgeons:

Over time, professional boxers can suffer permanent brain damage. The force of a professional boxer's fist is equivalent to being hit with a 13 pound bowling ball traveling 20 miles per hour, or about 52 g's.

According to the Journal of Combative Sport, from the 1960s through 2007, there have been 421 boxing-related deaths. They attribute 80 percent of these deaths to head, brain or neck injuries.

There are boxers with minimal involvement and those that are so severely affected that they require institutional care. There are some boxers with varying degrees of speech difficulty, stiffness, unsteadiness, memory loss, and inappropriate behavior. In several studies, 15-40 percent of ex-boxers have been found to have symptoms of chronic brain injury. Most of these boxers have mild symptoms. Recent studies have shown that most professional boxers (even those without symptoms) have some degree of brain damage.http://www.aans.org/Patient%20Information/Conditions%20and%20Treatments/Sports-Related%20Head%20Injury.aspx

but the problem there is with the capitalist system, not some inherent flaw in the past-time itself.In the case of boxing, it is clear that the "inherent flaw" is "in the past-time itself."

Plus if you were to be so dull and dogmatic then you could look at all sport as a mere distraction from social ills - why else would governments put so much funding into it?Why indeed?

Regardless of that fact, it doesn't mean sport itself is wrong or "fascist" as you insist on calling everythingNo, I'm focusing on boxing, with its brutality, glorification of the "hero," celebrating the triumph of violence, racism, etc., certainly has an appeal to the fascist mentality.

like some 12 year old who has just read Motorcycle Diaries. Also keep in mind that the fights discussed in this thread are professional fights fought between extremely rich boxers for great prizes.And those pros, who themselves have often sustained injury, stand on the shoulders of the anonymous thousands on the lower levels. But you know that.

And seriously, why do you insist on putting your name at the end of every post, what are you hoping to achieve with that?But seriously, why do you ask dumb-ass questions?

RED DAVE

Comrade J

11th May 2011, 12:12

No, I'm focusing on boxing, with its brutality, glorification of the "hero," celebrating the triumph of violence, racism, etc., certainly has an appeal to the fascist mentality.

Hahaha; and this is why Cuba has such legendary boxers and famous training schools for boxing? That great fascist state. :rolleyes: Hero culture is prevalent outside of fascist states, even the Soviet Union had it with the Stakhanovite movement. Racism is gonna be present in any sport where people compete internationally; again, it's not anything intrinsic to boxing. What a fucking stupid generalisation.

Once again you avoid explaining your idiotic use of the term "fascist"; how exactly does one's political stance affect their enjoyment of a particular sport? Tell me, as a Marxist, what sports should I enjoy? I'm guessing there is like some astrological star chart thing you have that can correlate economics with sport and tell me what to watch. Please don't be golf. I fucking hate golf.

But seriously, why do you ask dumb-ass questions?What an awful way to duck a question. But why is the question dumb? Is it because the answer is so obvious; you're a narcissistic shitbag with unhealthy illusions of grandeur which in this medium, reveals itself in your urge to end all posts in that self-assertive way? If not then why do it? Your username is already next to your post, why end all posts this way? You realise it isn't a telegram right?...

Your post was very much concentrated on the dangers of boxing, so you've changed your tune from class oppression to health concerns all of a sudden? :lol: So what if it's damaging, that's the risk you take in boxing that all boxers know. Like I said, I'm not even a huge fan so I don't care enough about it to defend it so vehemently as you want to attack it, perhaps OP can do that. The problem is that you considered it to be solely an exploitative sport; I don't give a shit if you think it's too dangerous or not, that was never why I responded to you in the first place.

RED DAVE

11th May 2011, 16:00

Hahaha; and this is why Cuba has such legendary boxers and famous training schools for boxing? That great fascist state.Cuba for many decades has served as a source of entertainment and sports figures for world capitalism. This is part of how Cuba has maintained itself. It is an accomodation to capitalism.

Hero culture is prevalent outside of fascist states, even the Soviet Union had it with the Stakhanovite movement.And this was part of the super-exploitation of the working class under stalinism. Bad example, Comrade.

Racism is gonna be present in any sport where people compete internationally; again, it's not anything intrinsic to boxing. What a fucking stupid generalisation.Boxing is rife with racism and has been for over 100 years since non-white fighters began to dominate. Did you ever hear the phrase, "the great white hope"? Boxing, is perhaps the most racist of all major "sports" as most boxers are non-white and are being permanently injured and sometimes killed.

Once again you avoid explaining your idiotic use of the term "fascist"; how exactly does one's political stance affect their enjoyment of a particular sport?Comrade, you write like a brash kid. If you don't understand the relationship between a violent, racist sport and fascism, I suggest you do some reading.

Tell me, as a Marxist, what sports should I enjoy? I'm guessing there is like some astrological star chart thing you have that can correlate economics with sport and tell me what to watch. Please don't be golf. I fucking hate golf.I suggest that you engage in the universal sport of growing up.

What an awful way to duck a question. But why is the question dumb? Is it because the answer is so obvious; you're a narcissistic shitbag with unhealthy illusions of grandeur which in this medium, reveals itself in your urge to end all posts in that self-assertive way? If not then why do it? Your username is already next to your post, why end all posts this way? You realise it isn't a telegram right?...I have been a Marxist for a long time, and I have used that logo online for about 15 years. Why does it bother you so?

Your post was very much concentrated on the dangers of boxing, so you've changed your tune from class oppression to health concerns all of a sudden?Is there as contradiction with dealing with both? If I am concerned with industrial accidents, does that prevent me from dealing with more general class exploitation?

So what if it's damaging, that's the risk you take in boxing that all boxers know.A perfact answer: for a fucking libertarian.

Like I said, I'm not even a huge fan so I don't care enough about it to defend it so vehemently as you want to attack it, perhaps OP can do that. The problem is that you considered it to be solely an exploitative sport; I don't give a shit if you think it's too dangerous or not, that was never why I responded to you in the first place.So, if you don’t care about this issue, why not just take a flying fuck at the moon?

RED DAVE

RedSonRising

11th May 2011, 16:54

So Dave, would you stop me from amateur boxing if you could? Because I sure as hell wouldn't voluntarily stop.

Of course the professional world is ridden with corruption and tragedies, but that is the inherent risk of combat sports. Obviously many don't have a choice and have to pursue this violent sport in order to advance their quality of life, but socialists are supposed to attack the class system which perpetuates exploitation, not symptoms prevalent within almost every institution within society. Hopefully one day individuals will be able to engage in combat sports competitively without being forced into fighting for scraps thrown to them by an exploitative elite, and better care and consideration is applied.

Sugar Ray Leonard, Gene Tunney, Muhammad Ali, Marco Antonio Barrera, the Klitschko brothers, and lots of other All Time Greats and champions came from comfortable backgrounds, became Olympians, and chose the sport because of the appreciation for it's craft. You may not appreciate the art or see the value in fighting, but those who do appreciate the sacrifices these men and women make. Millions of dollars after their first big wins, these great fighters are still putting their life on the line night after night for the glory of success and accomplishment, as with anything else in life.

If your think it's better to ban dangerous activities in an ideal society simply because they have dangerous and exploitative tendencies in the capitalist world, then go ahead and try to ban karate, mixed martial arts, horseback riding, drinking beer, unprotected sex, riding motorcycles, driving cars, rock-climbing, and crowded concerts. Good luck trying to mobilize the masses while advocating for a world devoid of passions.

RED DAVE

11th May 2011, 19:57

So Dave, would you stop me from amateur boxing if you could? Because I sure as hell wouldn't voluntarily stop.Just keep the pillows on your head and hands, but I think you may have absorbed a few blows too many already. :D

Of course the professional world is ridden with corruption and tragedies, but that is the inherent risk of combat sports. Obviously many don't have a choice and have to pursue this violent sport in order to advance their quality of life, but socialists are supposed to attack the class system which perpetuates exploitation, not symptoms prevalent within almost every institution within society.In other words, we shouldn't try to end child labor, dangerous working conditions, repressive labor laws, etc. Where do you get this shit?

Hopefully one day individuals will be able to engage in combat sports competitively without being forced into fighting for scraps thrown to them by an exploitative elite, and better care and consideration is applied.Until then, they had best be banned.

Sugar Ray Leonard, Gene Tunney, Muhammad Ali, Marco Antonio Barrera, the Klitschko brothers, and lots of other All Time Greats and champions came from comfortable backgrounds, became Olympians, and chose the sport because of the appreciation for it's craft. You may not appreciate the art or see the value in fighting, but those who do appreciate the sacrifices these men and women make. Millions of dollars after their first big wins, these great fighters are still putting their life on the line night after night for the glory of success and accomplishment, as with anything else in life.Comrade, you are so full of shit ... .

If your think it's better to ban dangerous activities in an ideal society simply because they have dangerous and exploitative tendencies in the capitalist world, then go ahead and try to ban karate, mixed martial arts, horseback riding, drinking beer, unprotected sex, riding motorcycles, driving cars, rock-climbing, and crowded concerts. Good luck trying to mobilize the masses while advocating for a world devoid of passions.How do I drag red herrings; let me count the ways.

RED DAVE

FreeFocus

11th May 2011, 20:10

The Pacquiao/Mosley fight was pretty terrible, but more importantly, I don't even know where to begin with Red Dave right now. Surely anything detailed I'd have to say would get me warned for flaming so I'll mostly keep my mouth shut. Clearly your position is utter bullshit. You might dislike the business model of boxing, fine - that's something quite apart from the art of it and its applications as a fighting system. Yes, I enjoy fighting (watching and training). I think self-defense is of the utmost importance.

Hopefully you also oppose American "football," real football (soccer), rugby, and any other sport that involves contact and the potential of serious injury. Table tennis for all! Or maybe poker can be everyone's favorite "sport." Get the fuck out of here. :rolleyes:

RedSonRising

11th May 2011, 20:31

Just keep the pillows on your head and hands, but I think you may have absorbed a few blows too many already. :D

In other words, we shouldn't try to end child labor, dangerous working conditions, repressive labor laws, etc. Where do you get this shit?

Until then, they had best be banned.

Comrade, you are so full of shit ... .

How do I drag red herrings; let me count the ways.

RED DAVE

Since you clearly have no ability to understand the perspective of those who are fans of the sport beyond us being "full of shit" when trying to communicate aspects of the sport that separate themselves from the exploitative business model it occurs under, I would appreciate it if you let the rest of us discuss what's actually happening in boxing within this thread specifically and continue the argument elsewhere if you'd like.

Starting a different thread debating the proper place of combat sports would interest many I'm sure, but I ask you to please make your argument elsewhere in the forum where I'd be happy to continue the discussion.

Comrade J

11th May 2011, 20:51

Cuba for many decades has served as a source of entertainment and sports figures for world capitalism. This is part of how Cuba has maintained itself. It is an accomodation to capitalism.

Of course, because states don't decide foreign policy as unitary actors in realpolitik terms - they do it based on what states they find entertaining. Christ, you're just a bottomless well of wisdom aren't you? :lol:

And this was part of the super-exploitation of the working class under stalinism. Bad example, Comrade.Wrong. It was a good example, as its sole purpose was a refutation of your belief that hero-culture is solely fascist. It served its purpose, cause you avoided the point entirely and brought up some irrelevant shit about Stalinist exploitation. I'm not a Stalinist.

Boxing is rife with racism and has been for over 100 years since non-white fighters began to dominate. Did you ever hear the phrase, "the great white hope"? Boxing, is perhaps the most racist of all major "sports" as most boxers are non-white and are being permanently injured and sometimes killed.
Hahaha, makes no sense! So if it is dominated by non-whites, then evidently a lot of fights will have no white fighters in them, so who do all the white racists support?! :unsure: And if they dominate the sport, then how is it racist that some of them get injured or killed? Aren't they getting injured and killed by mostly fellow non-whites..?

All internationally-fought sports are going to have racist fans in them, from football to boxing; it says nothing about the sport itself.

Comrade, you write like a brash kid.And you write like you have a massive ego complex.

If you don't understand the relationship between a violent, racist sport and fascism, I suggest you do some reading.
Another pearl of wisdom, eh Dave? Do some reading. Phenomenal stuff, just phenomenal. :D

I suggest that you engage in the universal sport of growing up.Da dum TSCH! :laugh: Ever considered standup comedy? I'd love to see you talk to a basement comedy club for half an hour, finishing all your jokes with "Red Dave."

I have been a Marxist for a long time, and I have used that logo online for about 15 years. Why does it bother you so?Your name doesn't bother me in any way, just confused as to why you finish all your posts with it in big red letters.

A perfact answer: for a fucking libertarian. :lol:Starting to love you a bit Dave. Are you sure I'm not a fascist instead? Or have you used up your daily quota of fascist accusations?

So, if you don’t care about this issue, why not just take a flying fuck at the moon? Simply trying to point out that even though I'm not a huge boxing fan, I can still recognise that it's not inherently "fascist". :rolleyes:

MattShizzle

12th May 2011, 03:32

I too dislike boxing. It's simply a way that the middle and upper classes get entertained by watching the lower classes fight and hurt each other (usually the boxers are whatever ethnic minority is near the bottom, too.) Why not just renew the Roman gladatorial games and be honest about it?

MattShizzle

12th May 2011, 03:52

Sports like football and such it's certainly possible to be injured as a side effect but in boxing the object is to cause your opponent brain damage. The main way to win is to knock your opponent out - this means to cause his brain to bounce off of his skull. That's what a concussion is and what happens every time a boxer is knocked out. Every so often a boxer dies in the ring and most of those who box for a long time have serious brain damage.

FreeFocus

12th May 2011, 05:59

An opponent in boxing can go down from a body shot, they could be getting destroyed and their corner throws the towel in, they can lose on points - a knockout isn't the only way to lose. A fight can end with a knockout. What would be "barbaric" is if there was no referee and the fighters simply fought to the death. If the doctors and referees are doing their jobs, fighters will be saved from unnecessary harm (refs can stop the fight) and given the needed care after the fight ends (doctors checking on fighters afterwards).

RED DAVE

12th May 2011, 15:57

RedSonRising

12th May 2011, 18:48

But this neglects the fact that boxers absorb constant blows to the head.

IF YOU THINK IT'S COOL, LOOK AT MOHAMMED ALI.

RED DAVE

Both he and Freddie Roach, the current trainer of #1 ranked fighter Manny Pacquiao, fought on well after they were recommended to stop by everyone around them. They paid the price, it's tragic, but they do not express regret when asked about their choice to participate in the sport, because of what they accomplished and what they can continue to give today because of it. Please respond if you wish in whatever fashion you like in the other thread.
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Here are some clips of Hopkins and Pascal leading up to their fight in which Hopkins may become the oldest champion in boxing history at 45.

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RedSonRising

17th May 2011, 06:26

Here's a recap of the first Hopkins-Pascal fight. If I were Canadian I would totally head to this. Pascal is a regional favorite and Hopkins is a legend. I can't wait to see if he can beat him to become the oldest champion in the history of the sport at 46. Such a wise and dedicated role model. This second fight should be a lot of fun, both guys know they have to go harder than they did the first time around.

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FreeFocus

17th May 2011, 06:43

Looking forward to the fight, the first one was good. I hate Hopkins though for all the shit he says about MMA. He's also a homophobe.

RedSonRising

18th May 2011, 00:12

Looking forward to the fight, the first one was good. I hate Hopkins though for all the shit he says about MMA. He's also a homophobe.

You rooting for Pascal then?

FreeFocus

18th May 2011, 00:58

You rooting for Pascal then?

Yeah. I like Pascal's attitude. And they had a heated interview I saw a week or two ago and Pascal was pretty funny in that (I mean, Hopkins was too though). :lol:

RedSonRising

23rd May 2011, 13:52

THE MAN HAS DONE IT! Real good fight. Hopkins put on an exhibition and shut down Pascal's rushing offense with veteran technique, sticking his tongue out all the while and doing push-ups in between rounds and after the fight. Highlights will be up soon.

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Niall

24th May 2011, 14:51

Anyone see the Groves - DeGale fight at the weekend

RedSonRising

25th May 2011, 03:45

Anyone see the Groves - DeGale fight at the weekend

Didn't catch it, how was it?

Niall

25th May 2011, 10:24

Didn't catch it, how was it?

decent fight from what I can remember, esp the latter rounds. Glad to see degale losing

I.Drink.Your.Milkshake

30th May 2011, 19:32

decent fight from what I can remember, esp the latter rounds. Glad to see degale losing

I saw this one! very, very close fight, but I thought Groves deservedly won. DeGale just never had a reply, nor did he at any point dominate the fight, as Groves did for the first three rounds. Good fight, though. Enjoyed it.

I.Drink.Your.Milkshake

30th May 2011, 19:35

glad to see Hopkins won, too. Im 30 in July.... i'm thinking hit the weights tomorrow, turn pro at 35, world champ by 40? realistic?

CALLED!

RedSonRising

30th May 2011, 23:31

glad to see Hopkins won, too. Im 30 in July.... i'm thinking hit the weights tomorrow, turn pro at 35, world champ by 40? realistic?

CALLED!

Sergio Martinez started boxing at 20 and is now champion at 37. Bump it up by ten years and you could replicate it; join a gym, live a monastic life, speed up an amateur career, go pro, keep winning, and get a title shot by your early 40's.

I also hope you have devilishly handsome looks. It helps.

RedSonRising

4th June 2011, 02:49

Hello all, tomorrow night is the Super-Six Tournament (168 lbs) semi-final, with England's Carl Froch facing off against Glen Johnson. Froch has an awkward aggressive style and power in both hands, but has recently shown a more polished ability to use his reach and box on the outside. Johnson is a very well-defended fighter, is patient in his old age, and has excellent timing and a hard right hand. This should be a good fight; the winner faces rising superstar Andre Ward, who recently dominated power-punching Arthur Abraham in the other semi-final bout. Should be a great fight, leading up to an even greater one with Ward. (Former tournament participant Mikkel Kessler's return bout will also be shown on tape delay an hour prior on HBO.)

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Also, the son of the legend, Julio Cesar Cavez Junior is getting his first title shot against German champion Sebastian Zbik. Both are undefeated, with Chavez Jr. coming under criticism for his somewhat lackluster performances against poor competition, but he is now showing great improvements under trainer Freddie Roach, training and learning alongside the likes of Manny Pacquiao and Amir Khan. Should be competitive and entertaining, hopefully he shows promise.

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RedSonRising

18th June 2011, 17:15

I.Drink.Your.Milkshake

18th June 2011, 18:43

Hope you guys caught those last couple of fights. Froch just outpointed Johnson in a close and exciting fight, and Chavez Jr. showed he has lots of heart and a few improvements, with still much to go. Speaking of young Mexican prospects, Saul "Canelo" Alvarez is taking on veteran and hard-punching Randy Rhodes in his first defense of his 154 title. This might be Canelo's toughest challenge yet, and if his questionable chin gets checked, he'll get the opportunity to overcome the adversity and show more potential as a future star and authentic champion. At just 20 years old, he's looking pretty good. Don't miss it!

I cannot stand watching Froch fight, he makes me so nervous. Luckily he seems to have a granite chin but still... would it really hurt to lift his arms above elbow level now and again? I thought he just about deserved it, but Glen Johnson was awesome - he did not know when to quit. But Froch, man.... quit just doing the bare minimum to get by.

Cant wait for Rhodes V Alvarez, promises to be a good 'un. Rhodes probably having his last crack at a world title, and id love him to get it but, unfortunately, I cant see it. Even at 20 i think Alvarez just has too much - the kids a class act and is gonna be a big star.

Royce Gracie Of Communism

24th June 2011, 17:28

I am future welterweight champ

RedSonRising

24th June 2011, 20:38

I cannot stand watching Froch fight, he makes me so nervous. Luckily he seems to have a granite chin but still... would it really hurt to lift his arms above elbow level now and again? I thought he just about deserved it, but Glen Johnson was awesome - he did not know when to quit. But Froch, man.... quit just doing the bare minimum to get by.

Cant wait for Rhodes V Alvarez, promises to be a good 'un. Rhodes probably having his last crack at a world title, and id love him to get it but, unfortunately, I cant see it. Even at 20 i think Alvarez just has too much - the kids a class act and is gonna be a big star.

I agree with basically all of your points. Froch's gutsy style is great to watch, but that left hand would serve him better tucked right in front of the chin, as you say, at least once in a while :lol: Johnson really took it to him, mad props. I think ultimately his defensive holes will allow Ward to pick his spots, set up punches with feints, and outbox him to a decision in an amazing fight and finish to the tournament.

Canelo was very impressive, but the hype just doesn't match up to his accomplishments yet. Sure, he's 20, but who knows what his learning curve will be? I suppose I'll be patient because he does look promising. Chavez Jr. on the other hand needs a lot more work, though with Freddie Roach he's coming along nicely.

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Here are some highlights of the past few fights mentioned; Johnson-Froch was a war, Alvarez-Rhodes was an impressive but one-sided affair, and Chavez Jr-Zbik was a competitive fight that indicated the young fighter has heart, some improvements, but has a ways to go :

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Also coming up tomorrow night is a great fight between two well-ranked fighters in the deeply talented 140 pound Junior Welterweight division. Devon Alexander was thought by many to be a future star and champion in the division, but he lost against undefeated Tim Bradley in a boring fight in which he was timid, predictable, and to some fans, showed little heart when headbutted and cut for a second time and started complaining for a stoppage of the fight while behind on points. Lucas Matthysse, a gritty but consistent puncher from Argentina, was to be a stepping stone for former champion Zab Judah on a comeback streak, but he floored him with a hard shot and did enough for many to think he deserved the decision. With both fighters trying to climb their way back to the top and into big fights with the other money-makers, they'll have to impress with both skills and a passionate display of will. Don't miss out, it's a real pick-em fight and should be very competitive, with a decent under-card as well!

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RedSonRising

30th June 2011, 23:17

Hello all, hope you got to watch the Matthysse-Alexander fight. Most are calling it a hometown decision for Alexander as a robbery against Matthysse, but both guys showed heart and there was plenty of action over the ten rounder.

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This Saturday, the biggest Heavyweight event of the last decade is taking place. The dominant Ukrainian champion Wladimir Klischko, who has been dominating the division against an era of game but historically underwhelming contenders for a decade (along with his brother Vitali), takes on England's David Haye. Wlad uses his height and reach to the max, using his accurate and heavy jab to control his smaller opponents before attempting to land a left hook off of it, or follow it up with a devastating right hand. David Haye, a smaller heavyweight, is known for his speed, punching power, and explosive aggressive style.

Both fighters have been feuding for a long time before finally agreeing to fight on July 2nd. Each have fiercely loyal fans, who either look to the the sharp quickness and power of Haye to overcome and overwhelm the sometimes robotic nature of Wlad's technique, or the size, boxing skill, and power of Klischko's own punches to neutralize and shut down Haye.

Aside from Mayweather-Pacquiao, this is the most lucrative fight that can be made in boxing. Both men have everything to lose, and this fight is paramount to their legacy as champions and as men. Whatever you do, wherever you are, if you value at all the prospective sight of the best fighters at the top of the ladder facing off to determine true supremacy and make history in the ring by bringing out the best in each other, then don't fail to tune in and witness this momentous event.

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RedSonRising

1st July 2011, 19:50

The fight is tomorrow, the fighters have weighed in!! :thumbup:

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Who are you picking?

RedSonRising

5th July 2011, 05:51

Well, unfortunately, Klitschko VS Haye did not live up to the hype, and David Haye shut down his offense after some evenly fought rounds early in the match, allowing Wladimir Klitschko to win a wide decision. The Heavyweight belts are now all between brothers Wladimir and Vitali Klitschko. Haye cited Klitschko's abilities as a fighter as the primary factor of his loss, but also pointed to a toe broken weeks ago he's been showing everyone, which he claims prevented him from pushing off his back-foot to land his trademark right hand. Regardless, there were some interesting and entertaining moments in the fight, so here are some highlights:

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Looking ahead, a great set of match-ups are coming up this Saturday. First up, on Showtime, undefeated and belt-holding lightweight Brandon Rios, whose been gaining fame with his exciting aggressive style and impressive punching power, is facing Urbano Antillon, another exciting fighter who emerged from last year's Fight of the Year against Humberto Soto as a world-class contender, despite losing the fight. This match-up can't be anything but consistent action and willful aggression. Fireworks are guaranteed, so if you can, don't miss it.

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On the same night through HBO, Paul Williams will try to become relevant again after losing his status as the most feared man in boxing, losing his title against Sergio Martinez by a devastating 2nd round knock-out. Erislandy Lara, an accomplished Cuban amateur making his way through the pro-ranks, has excellent athletic ability and technique, but recently drew with a fighter he should have beaten more easily because of an overly defensive style likely stemming from Amateur-style habits. Lara has shown he is more than capable, however, of finding the right spot and knocking an opponent out in the first round. Both men have a lot to prove in order to become relevant as elite contenders in the Middleweight division, and they will be testing their technical ability as well as their heart come Saturday Night.

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ReVoLuTiOnArYbUtGaNgStEr

5th July 2011, 23:24

RedSonRising

6th July 2011, 05:04

What are you talking about It was a great fight, seeing that idiot Haye get thrashed for 12 rounds was amazing, Kiltschko was great, perfect footwork, great jab, In one of the later rounds with one left right Hayes legs turned to jelly.

Haye was shown up to be the cruiserweight all mouth imbecile He always will be, He basically did what Ali did when he was an underdog facing the reigning champ, namecalling, trying to get under the champs skin, but the difference is Haye failed to deliver.

Haye could definitely be annoying and there was some satisfaction for some to see him eat his own bold words, but it was built as such an important fight in the Heavyweight division, the best fight that could be made by the two best contenders for a super-fight...and it ends with Haye running after the first four rounds and dropping to the floor every time Wlad would hold.

Wlad looked good, but they didn't come together in a way that produced excitement. The worst part is, Haye looked capable of landing on Wlad when he really tried, but he was just too tentative against Wlad's jab and consistent pressure. Broken toe or not, he didn't have it in him to give it all for the victory, and it takes two to tango and provide excitement.

So it definitely didn't live up to the hype, which is all I was saying. I still enjoyed it as a fan. Hopefully Haye can fight some top contenders like Arreola and Solis and have him or someone emerge to legitimately challenge Vitaly or Wlad at least somewhat.

ReVoLuTiOnArYbUtGaNgStEr

6th July 2011, 10:16

Well it was hardly a Ward v Gatti but yeah still had my heart going, especially in the last round. I think to be fair to the brothers, the fact no one can challenge them does them a great disservice as they never get to prove themselves on a scale like Robinson, Leanord, Hagler, Ali, Mcguigan, Tyson, Gatti etc etc, when I think they would do well as alltime p4p fighters when we look back in a couple of decades.

RedSonRising

6th July 2011, 18:39

RedSonRising

9th July 2011, 18:40

Hey guys, almost forgot that in addition to Lara-Williams and Rios-Antillon, Canadian rising star Lucian Bute will be fighting undefeated contender Jean-Paul Mendy. He should be looking to impress after seemingly holding back in his last performance. He will likely be facing the winner of the Super Six tournament in a super-fight. Hope you guys can catch it.

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RedSonRising

12th July 2011, 00:15

Hey guys, here are the results from this weekends fights. Lucian Bute dominated his opponent, knocking Mendy out with a perfect left hand in the fourth; Rios-Antillon was 3 straight rounds of hell, with Rios remaining an undefeated champion by scoring an impressive stoppage, very exciting fight; Lara-Williams was a good fight in which the Cuban completely outclassed Williams, who looked lethargic and sloppy, and the judges robbed Lara in one of the worst decisions I have ever personally seen as a fan. Here are some clips of these exciting bouts:

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Looking ahead, rising star Amir Khan is going to take on veteran southpaw Zab Judah on July 23rd for his 140lb title. Judah once made Mayweather touch the canvas, and was famous for having incredible physical talent including speed, power, and athleticism on top of solid skills, but was also prone to breaking down mentality and being hampered by immaturity. He's newly religious and has found a new sense of perserverence and has impressed on his recent comeback trail. He could be Khan's toughest test yet, and his blinding fast and explosive left-uppercut may test his chin once again. Should be a great fight between really talented fighters.

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RedSonRising

13th July 2011, 20:05

Hey guys. While Khan-Judah is happening on the 23rd, this Saturday, my absolute favorite fighter, Juan Manuel Marquez, will be fighting in Cancun. This man has nearly flawless technique, throws long and beautiful combinations, and is a laser-accurate counter-puncher who throws with bad intentions. He is the last man to give pound-for-pound king Manny Pacquiao a real beating, and some believe he beat him twice; first in 2004 when he rose from the canvas three times in the first round with a broken nose to make a tactical adjustment that earned him a draw, and a controversial 2008 split decision loss many felt he won. On Saturday, he'll be taking a tune-up fight against hard-hitting Colombian southpaw Likar Ramos, in order to prepare for an epic third bout with Manny Pacquiao. Although moving up in weight has proved a challenge to him before and he approaches 38 years of age, his technique has remained intact and his style is gradually evolving and adjusting. A true master of his craft, I hope you guys can watch him sharpen his skills this Saturday for the battle of his life that awaits him in November.

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RedSonRising

16th July 2011, 00:50

The fighters have weighed in! Marquez weighed in at 138 lbs, with Ramos weighing in at 140 lbs.
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Anyone from the US, Mexico, or Puerto Rico can watch this fight for free at toprank.com tomorrow night! Don't pass it up!

RedSonRising

17th July 2011, 20:02

Hey guys, hope you could catch the live stream yesterday. Good night, under-card featured some good dominant prospects, and the Marquez brothers looked good. Rafael Marquez battered his opponent into submission by the 5th, and Juan Manuel scored a spectacular 1st round knockout! Many suspect a dive, but no question it was a hard shot right on the button as his chin was in the air. It would have been nice for him to shake off some ring-rust going a few rounds, but at least we know he's been training hard and staying sharp for Pac-man in November!

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You guys can catch the full fight (first round) here:

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So watcha think, dive or legit? Took a hard shot, but then fell kind of weird and looked like he played dead like a dog.

RedSonRising

21st July 2011, 07:18

Hey guys, here are a few good build-up videos on Amir Khan leading up to his fight with Zab Judah this Saturday.

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I.Drink.Your.Milkshake

28th July 2011, 00:35

RedSonRising

30th July 2011, 18:36

I think Ramos hitting the deck was legit. Cannot wait for the Pacq-e-i-e-i-o fight, I definitely feel Marquez was robbed in the second bout.

Amir Khan continues to impress. OK, it was possibly (/probably) a low blow but I don't believe for a second that Judah didn't think he was getting counted out. Rumour has it that the plan for Khan is now for Bradley later this year, followed by Ortiz early next year followed by Mayweather next November. Assuming he wins both bouts.

Ramos was definitely hit by a hard punch, but I think he decided to just lay there. Marquez is older and will be past his best weight, but he's been adjusting his technique and is still an elite fighter with the style to beat Pacquiao; I also feel he deserved the nod in the second fight. What a war!

And yes, Khan is clearly improving. He seems to have the most star potential. Bradley chose not to fight him for fear of losing, and then missing out on a chance to fight Pacquiao or Mayweather (which is a stupid mentality IMO, you have to beat the best to climb the ladder and earn that type of opportunity.) If Khan doesn't unify and moves up, I think he'll fight Ortiz, but I actually think Ortiz would win that fight. And sadly I think Mayweather would embarrass him and take advantage of his still-present flaws.

Here are some GIFs from the Khan-Judah fight. Official highlights will be up as soon as HBO put them up.

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BTW, the punch wasn't low; it was on the belt, and since Judah's belly button was covered, it was a legal punch on the abdomen. A tad lower than recommended, but his balls certainly aren't hung that high.

RedSonRising

5th August 2011, 03:16

Hey guys, great fight coming in a couple of weeks. This video sums it up well; super hard-punching fighter Maidana, who recently won a close decision against a surprisingly game come-back Erik Morales in a potential Fight Of The Year candidate, is taking on former Lightweight Champion Robert Guerrero, who recently shut-out warrior Michael Katsidis and is moving up in weight. It will be Maidana's animalistic relentlessness against Guerrero's timing and out-fighting skill. This has great potential, can't wait.

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5th August 2011, 09:38

So watcha think, dive or legit? Took a hard shot, but then fell kind of weird and looked like he played dead like a dog.

Dont know for sure, and havent watch box much, but i was expecting him to stand up and laugh...When i realised he was "out" it didnt fit much(and i didnt even saw your comments, i went directly to the gif so i didnt know that people were thinking of that).Weird:)

RedSonRising

11th August 2011, 05:12

Dont know for sure, and havent watch box much, but i was expecting him to stand up and laugh...When i realised he was "out" it didnt fit much(and i didnt even saw your comments, i went directly to the gif so i didnt know that people were thinking of that).Weird:)

Yea, I think he took a hard shot and was like "I'm gonna just stay here...on the floor....I can get my paycheck layer...zzzz....look...zzzzzzzzzz!...." I felt bad for Marquez; he wanted to get some rounds in, but at least he looked sharp at 140 pounds.

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Coming up, Floyd Mayweather Jr. is coming out of his long break from boxing to take on recently crowned champion Victor Ortiz. As is show earlier in this post, Ortiz beat Berto as an underdog in what was a hellacious fight which saw multiple knockdowns. Floyd is coming back against Ortiz because of his newly found star power, and may be tuning up his skills against a fast, aggressive southpaw (similar to Pacquiao). This is the best opponent he could have chosen, and both are looking to impress and keep and/or improve their standing within boxing as a whole. The superb HBO documentary mini-series 24/7 will be shown right after Maidana-Guerrero (which is going to be awesome), and these are some videos which outline both guys if you aren't familiar with them.

This fight is truly significant, and promises to deliver a great spectacle. Check it out!

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RedSonRising

12th August 2011, 20:26

Hey guys. Tonight, there is a good Friday Night Fights on ESPN, which you can stream from the website (or other sources.) Check it out if you can.

On Showtime tomorrow night, the two finalists that have emerged from the Bantamweight tournament are going to determine divisional supremacy by squaring off. Abner Mares and Joseph Agbeko are both exciting fighters, and will deliver a really exciting fight. There's no clear favorite and these little guys are guaranteed to throw a loooot of punches. Don't miss it!

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RedSonRising

15th August 2011, 03:32

Hey guys, hope you caught the end of the final of the Showtime Bantamweight Tournament. It was a good fight, but full of controversy, as Mexican contender Mares was repeatedly warned against Ghanian champion Joseph Agbeko for blatant low blows throughout. The referee even called a knockdown on a punch right on the cup! The scores were close, and a rematch is certainly in order, with lots of accusations flying towards referee Mora's way. Check out the recap! One of these fighters is likely to face Pound For Pound champion Nonito "The Flash" Donaire, which would be a great fight.

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One of these fighters is likely to face Pound For Pound champion Nonito "The Flash" Donaire, which would be a great fight.

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20th August 2011, 06:37

RedSonRising

22nd August 2011, 02:43

:D Glad to see there is a thread discussing boxing on this forum. (I am still exploring the forum)

Anyways, I am an Amateur fighter with over 5 years of experience and I loooove boxing with all of my heart.

What do you guys think of the Mayweather - Ortiz fight coming up? I personally believe Myaweather has it in the bag due to his good defense and timing, which is vital. I know Ortiz is a good fighter as well but I haven't seen but a few of his fights. I think Mayweather's gonna give him that awkward angle and counter-punch all night.
I don't like Mayweather's personality that he puts on, but I cannot deny that his skills are impressive. Only person really left fro him to fight is Pacquiao which WILL give him problems being a southpaw. That angle Mayweather stands at with his left shoulder out actually will line him up for Pacmans straight lefts.

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What's your weight man? I'm an amateur myself; haven't competed yet due to school and such getting in the way, but I've been training on and off for about two years now. What's your style?

I think that Mayweather is going to look vulnerable early (as he often does against Southpaws), but then he's going to turn up the heat and pick apart Ortiz at range while pressing forward (as he also often does against southpaws.) He's said himself he's going to bring the fight to Ortiz, and his habits against athletically gifted offensive southpaws shows that this is the strategy he prefers. Ortiz is going to make it an entertaining fight for sure, and I hope he does well, but Mayweather is going to outclass him. Even if Ortiz did pressure him against the ropes, like you said, Mayweather would just counterpunch him in the pocket all night like he did Hatton.

You're right about Pac's left lining up with Mayweather's head in his philly shell defense, and I think that after Mayweather adjusts to it, Pac is going to try and keep turning Mayweather. Once Floyd leans back like that, his back foot anchors him down, and he's stationary, giving someone with elite lateral movement like Pacquiao to the opportunity to find new angles and begin an offensive before Mayweather can react to the angle and defend himself. I hope this fight gets made before Pacquiao gets older.

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22nd August 2011, 04:09

RedSonRising

22nd August 2011, 19:43

I fight at 75 kilos ( 165 lbs). I have a very eastern european almost Russian style of fighting. Stay back and throw many hard jabs with a strong straight right or uppercut behind it. What about you? What weight do you plan on fighting at?

Youre spot on about mayweather vs ortiz. And the pacman fight (if it happens) has the potential to be a seriously great fight.

I'm right around there; the lowest I dropped about a year ago during training was about 150, and I felt I could have gone a few pounds lighter. Right now though I'm around 160 and haven't been losing the weight as easily as I used to, but that might be because of summer festive eating habits haha. If I can get to a gym around school, I hope to compete around either 151 or maybe 160, which are the amateur weight divisions, I believe. Otherwise I'll have to wait next summer to train more consistently and then get a fight. My style is that of a tall boxer-puncher; I have extremely lanky arms and I try to fight tall, but I don't neglect the body or being the aggressor.

Pac-May could be great. Though in my heart of hearts, I want Marquez to perform well enough against him to gain some of the respect and recognition I feel he lacks. He's my favorite fighter and it's not fair he had to concede so much to get a rubber match.

RedSonRising

28th August 2011, 06:47

Hey guys, here is the first episode of HBO 24/7: Mayweather-Ortiz. Things get really interesting towards the end; the stuff these high-profile networks can capture with their cameras is really compelling.

I think I'll keep editing this single post with updates as the episodes come out in order to avoid clogging up the discussion thread with repetitive posts.

EDIT: The videos don't seem to be working anymore, so I'll have the episodes up as soon as I can find links that work.

RedSonRising

3rd September 2011, 09:47

Hey guys, good night of boxing coming up tomorrow. Prospect Gary Russel Jr. is making an appearance on the undercard of tomorrows HBO Boxing, which has Andre Berto fighting undefeated Jan Zaveck from Slovenia in an attempt to start bouncing back after his first loss against Victor Ortiz. Zaveck is no push-over and Berto will be looking to impress, so this should be a good fight. The second episode of 24/7: Mayweather-Ortiz should be playing after the main event. Don't miss it!

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RedSonRising

10th September 2011, 00:29

Hey guys, Berto-Zaveck ended up being good and competitive through the first six rounds, but cuts around the eyes of Zaveck formed (either from unseen accidental headbutts or punches, or both) and Berto was awarded a Technical Knock-Out. Berto's defense looks like it needs work, but his conditioning and exciting work-rate were there for him.

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Tomorrow (9/10) is full of great fights all day!

First off is Breidis Prescott VS Paul McCloskey. Prescott is a lanky Colombian power-puncher who is the only man to have defeated Amir Khan in his professional career, and did so in a mere 54 seconds. Since the, he's had some ups and downs and is trying to better his boxing technique and earn a shot at a rematch. McCloskey recently made Khan look bad in a fight where he made him miss a lot, although he rarely put forth any effective offense and lost on a technical decision after getting a cut on his head from an accidental headbutt. It's being said that the winner of this fight has a good chance of getting a rematch with Khan. This should be a good fight. It's on at at 3:45 p.m. ET on ESPN3, and is accessible online at WatchESPN.com.

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Then, at 4:45, HBO and other networks are broadcasting Tomasz Adamek VS Vitaliy Klitschko. Adamek has been racking up a series of solid wins in the Heavyweight division, having fought originally in the Light Heavyweight and Cruiserweight divisions. As the much smaller man, he'll be going up against Vitali Klitschko, who hasn't lost a round in years in his domination of the division along with his brother Wladimir. Adamek is a huge underdog, but he has youth, mobility, agility, and the support of thousands of Poles in his hometown against the persistent style of the much bigger and stronger Klitschko. This is one of the best fights that could be made in the division, and will be a great watch. Don't miss it!

Also, Cuban Featherweight Champion Yuriorkis Gamboa will be taking on a solid contender in Ponce De Leon of Mexico. Gamboa is a top pound-for-pound fighter, and has a great mix of athleticism, hand-speed, power, and technical skill. This little guy is someone you never want to miss. Catch him on HBO at 10:30, along with a replay of Klitschko-Adamek.

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Niall

11th September 2011, 12:36

So dudey got the win over presscott. Didnt see it myself but heard it was close

RedSonRising

11th September 2011, 23:37

So dudey got the win over presscott. Didnt see it myself but heard it was close

I personally thought Prescott was robbed. McCloskey put up a good fight in the second half, but the crowd basically ejaculated anytime he moved forward, even though he wasn't landing much. It should be online sometime soon, good fight. Prescott has improved his technique.

Niall

14th September 2011, 18:12

I personally thought Prescott was robbed. McCloskey put up a good fight in the second half, but the crowd basically ejaculated anytime he moved forward, even though he wasn't landing much. It should be online sometime soon, good fight. Prescott has improved his technique.
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RedSonRising

18th September 2011, 00:25

The fighters have weighed in!!!! Any predictions?

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RedSonRising

18th September 2011, 06:59

Hey everyone, hope you caught the fights last night. The under-card was very entertaining; here's a recap of the main event.

In the early rounds, Ortiz was stalking Mayweather, trying to press forward, but Floyd's speed and accuracy with the right hand were winning him some close and tense rounds. In spots, Floyd himself was exploiting Ortiz's inability to fight off the back-foot, and pressed the action.
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Around the 3rd, Ortiz was gaining some ground, and started landing some good quick left hands and occasional body work against the ropes on Floyd.
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During the 4th, Ortiz had his biggest moments after eating some hard combinations from Floyd, and was able to catch him consecutively against the ropes, using his size and strength to bully him into vulnerable positioning. During an offensive flurry, Ortiz jumped up and seemed to intentionally headbutt Floyd. Ortiz was then deducted a point.
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What followed was a moment of negligence from referee Joe Cortez, as Ortiz attempted to apologetically hug Mayweather and reconcile, as the referee instructed them to touch gloves. As Cortez looked away, Floyd threw a huge left hook at Ortiz's unprotected face, who then looked to the ref as if to complain, and Floyd followed up with a bomb right hand which knocked Ortiz down for the count. Many fans and viewers were disappointed with this ending, and thought that if not illegal, the move was certainly unsportsmanlike and an unfitting end to what was getting to be a very interesting bout.
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Thoughts?

RedSonRising

1st October 2011, 08:13

Hey guys. Here's a new aftermath edition of HBO 24/7, in which the cameras give us a look into the intimate moments before, during, and after the fight that we couldn't see otherwise. In-between these shots is the full fight and post-fight commentary. Here's the link.

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This Saturday Night has a bunch of great fights going on. Tune in to these match-ups this weekend if you have the opportunity to kick back at home and enjoy a great night of boxing.

Featherweight Star Juan Manuel Lopez is looking to establish dominance in the division once again, after losing his championship to top contender Orlando Salido, in order to establish himself as Cuban star Yuriorkis Gamboa's deserving rival. He is looking to impress against Contender Mike Olivier, on PPV. Expect an exciting knockout, or a stupendous upset.

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On TopRank.com, veteran fighter and former champion Rafael Marquez is taking on long-time belt-holder Toshiaki Nishioka. Nishioka is the far fresher fighter considering all the wars Marquez has been in, but his technique in combination-throwing and explosive power are still with him, and this fight should be entertaining as well as highly competitive. The undercard also includes a slew of entertaining match-ups between divisional champions and top contenders.

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Sergio Martinez, the unorthodox southpaw Argentine with plenty of speed and power and rated Pound-For-Pound #3 best fighter in the world by most accounts, is taking on England's undefeated Darren Barker on HBO. While Barker appears to be over-matched, he has solid fundamentals and a will to prove the critics wrong, and should prove to give Martinez a good fight to the end. Martinez should put on a great show, as he is trying to further his legacy and secure the best competition available. Also on the undercard is the exciting rematch of the war between Andy Lee and Brian Vera. Don't miss it!

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RedSonRising

12th October 2011, 21:54

Hey guys, hope you were able to watch the last few fights I posted. Martinez-Barker was particularly competitive, which was a pleasant surprise for fans watching everywhere.

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This Saturday, Bernard Hopkins-the oldest man in boxing history to ever win a World Title-is trying to continue making history by becoming the oldest to defend it. His opponent is former Light Heavyweight Champion "Bad" Chad Dawson, who for years dominated the division with his technical skills and handspeed, before being upset by Jean Pascal, who Hopkins would later conquer to leave his mark on the sport in the process.

As Hopkins ages further, nobody truly knows when his last fight will be or when father time will catch up with him, but while he's still as fit as ever and a tactical master, he will continue to be a beauty to watch for every second he's in the ring. This is one of the most challenging opponents of his entire career, and it's going to be very competitive, with heaps of athletic youth behind a solid set of skills, up against a well-preserved machine of a man with a wealth of experience in its tank.

Find a way to tune in this Saturday guys. Not only will it be history, but it will be a full embodiment of the art that is boxing.

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Misanthrope

13th October 2011, 00:23

I love boxing but this thread is so in depth and timely put together that I never have time!

you should consider doing a blog.

jeorgechello

15th October 2011, 17:11

I really like this thread because our country is quite an avid fan of boxing. It might be because most of our boxers are really doing well in the field. We do have Manny Pacquiao, Nonito Donaire, Villoria, Julaton and many wonderful boxers out there. They are really to be proud of.

RedSonRising

19th October 2011, 20:22

I love boxing but this thread is so in depth and timely put together that I never have time!

you should consider doing a blog.

Thanks! Do you mean it's updated too close to the fight dates that you don't have time to check them out, or that the thread goes so in depth? Thanks for the blog recommendation; I actually just post on East Side Boxing and sometimes translate Spanish fight breakdowns for the (English-speaking) forum.

Basically I'm just trying to give people a heads up for any quality fights that come up so that people can follow the sport more easily, instead of missing them because of having no time or ease of access. The sport has a relatively small fan-base, but in my opinion that is more due to a lack of proper promotion and organization than the quality of competition (which does sometimes fail to deliver). How long have you been following the sport?

I really like this thread because our country is quite an avid fan of boxing. It might be because most of our boxers are really doing well in the field. We do have Manny Pacquiao, Nonito Donaire, Villoria, Julaton and many wonderful boxers out there. They are really to be proud of.

I'm glad you like it! The Philippines has a long list of great boxers, and Donaire is one of the best out there right now. In fact he's fighting contender and former Olympic competitor Omar Narvaez of Argentina this Saturday, October 22nd. His explosive style and mix of athleticism with ring IQ makes him a pleasure to watch whenever he's on TV.

Check out this great interview of him. He's a great example of what an athlete should be. Don't miss out on catching him.

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And just to recap last weekend, Hopkins-Dawson ended up being a great disappointed instead of a historic event, with Chad Dawson pushing Bernard Hopkins to the ground after an awkward clinch, which resulted in a shoulder injury that had him deemed unfit to continue by the Ring Doctor. Strangely, Dawson was awarded a TKO as the push was not ruled a foul. I'm pissed that the people were robbed of an important fight.

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At least Jorge Linares (Pacquiao's sparring partner)-Antonio Demarco was a great fight, with Linares dominating most of the rounds fighting through a cut before getting stopped towards the end due to increasing damage and blood to the face. I'll be looking forward to a rematch.

RedSonRising

22nd October 2011, 08:23

The fighters have weighed in!
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I hope this is a good fight.

Also, prior to the fight broadcast will be the premier of Emmy Award-Winning series 24/7 at 10:00 on HBO, following Juan Manuel Marquez and Manny Pacquiao in the lead up to their 3rd fight.

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RedSonRising

3rd November 2011, 21:07

Hey guys; I hope you've been following Pacquiao-Marquez 3 24/7. It's been a good watch and both fighters are training hard for this personal encounter.

This weekend is full of exciting fights!!!

First off is Denis Lebedev VS James Toney on Friday. James Toney is one of the most skilled boxers of all time, starting out as a dominant Middleweight with a super smooth defense and blindingly fast counter-punches and combinations, and eventually went up in weight to compete with ranked heavyweights. Though he was criticized for neglecting his body and gaining a load of weight, Toney has recently shed some 60 pounds in order to compete at Cruiserweight for an interim championship title. Lebedev, a big and heavy-handed pressure-fighter, will do his best to take him out of his element and drag him into a fight in front of his Russian countrymen while Toney (at 43) tries to maximize the strengths of his own slick, efficient inside work. Lebedev recently knocked out a badly faded Roy Jones Jr. in the 10th; we'll see if Toney can avoid a similar fate.

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Saturday night, Showtime hosts Glen Johnson VS Lucian Bute. Bute has been heralded as one of the best, if not the best, at supper-middleweight, but is often criticized for lackluster competition. The Super 6 tournament has featured 6 of the best fighters in the division apart from Bute, and Glen Johnson was able to participate after Andre Dirrell pulled out. He more than proved his worth when he fought semi-finalist Carl Froch to a close Majority Decision loss, in which he demonstrated his great timing, defensively-sound stalking, and chopping overhand right. This may be Bute's hardest test yet, and Johnson will have to try his best to use his vast experience to neutralize and overcome Bute. This will be a great, great fight, and the winner is likely to challenge the winner of the Super 6 for divisional supremacy.

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That same night, HBO is hosting Alfredo Angulo VS James Kirkland. James Kirkland was an exciting fighter who was forced to make a late comeback after serving time in prison. Since returning to the light-middleweight division , he was slowly rebuilding his base, knocking out fighter after fighter in the early rounds and demonstrating his huge power. His most recent loss, however, came against a fighter with only 6 KO's out of 20 victories, and simply threw short punches on the inside from the start of the first round, which Kirkland consistently ran into and found himself on the canvas three times in the first before the referee stopped the bout. Questions about his potential and durability have left him hungry to climb atop the division and become a dominant force. Alfredo Angulo is a tough, hard-hitting non-stop pressure-fighter with great punching power of his own, and a stubborn resolve typical of his native Mexico's historic elite. Angulo is establishing himself as a top contender within the division after VISA troubles forced him to spend time away from the ring, and is determined to impress against Kirkland.

These two fighters have explosive styles, explosive punches, and a lot to prove. Don't miss out!

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Also on Saturday will be Michael Katsidis VS Ricky Burns. Katsidis, while losing to the very elite of the sport, has proven time and time again that he's there to leave everything in the ring and is not an easy win for anyone. Scottish Contender Ricky Burns will try to continue his win streak and captuer the WBO Interim Lightweight Championship by derailing Katsidis's ruthless aggression with his own skill-set. Katsidis never disappoints, so tune in!

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(Also, just so I know, do people actually read this? Or have I been talking to myself for the better part of 6 pages? I see that the views consistently increase, but it's quiet as hell. Let me know if anyone's following; feedback is appreciated. )

Niall

7th November 2011, 12:02

Burns had a good win. Everybody agree with the decision?

coda

9th November 2011, 06:06

RIP Smokin' Joe...

Niall

9th November 2011, 10:38

RIP Smokin' Joe...
one of the greats

RedSonRising

9th November 2011, 21:29

Rest in Peace Joe Frazier...one of the slightly overlooked greats of the past 40 years. The one who matched arguably the GOAT Heavyweight Championship over the course of 3 epic battles, and was one of the only ones to ever put him on his trunks. His busy bobbing-and-weaving complimented by blistering combinations to the body and one of the deadliest left hooks ever seen by mortal eyes made him a joy to watch each time out. Even these attributes couldn't overshadow his heart, which shone through even (and perhaps more) in his most difficult moments; fighting practically blind against Ali in Manila, getting up 6 times and rushing at the monster that was George Foreman...the world will never forget you Joe. Thank you for all you've given to the sport and for being a great human being. You've made Philly proud.

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RedSonRising

11th November 2011, 07:28

On Saturday, the book on the rivalry between Juan Manuel Marquez and Manny Pacquiao is likely to come to an end. After two great fights at two lighter weights, these two All Time Great fighters are going to contest in-ring supremacy once again. While the age and weight factors affect Pacquiao, Marquez has always had the style, dynamism, and intelligence to adapt to whatever offensive improvisation Pacquiao offers. Each fighter has trained vigorously for this fight knowing what their history means for their individual legacies. Expect fireworks people; there will be blood.

Personally, this fight is probably the most emotional one I have yet to experience in my young life. Marquez has grown to be my all-time favorite, and this is all at once a chance at unparalleled glory and definitive step into potentially dangerous compromising territory. Pacquiao is a heavy favorite once again, and I fear for Marquez's legacy. True fans will always know their first two fights were a more honest testament to each's abilities, and the rest of his career speaks for itself; but oftentimes history proves to have a short memory. I just hope with all my heart that this under-appreciated Mexican warrior who has shown as much technical proficiency and passionate performances as any of the best of them have can walk away from this fight with his dignity intact, having given the world another great fight and a fitting closing chapter to his time in the sport.

I'll have all the episodes of 24/7 up tomorrow, along with weigh-in clips and pics. Don't miss this one guys. As a potential precursor to Pacquiao-Mayweather and the conclusion to an epic sports saga in itself, you'll be watching history.

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Obs

15th November 2011, 20:42

Anyone catch Prescott v. Alvarado the other night? Two bouts before the Pac/Marquez fight, I think.

RedSonRising

16th November 2011, 23:36

Hey guys, I really hope you caught the Pacquiao-Marquez 3 card on Saturday. Prospects Juan Carlos Burgos and Luis Cruz put on a great fight worthy of the Mexico/Puerto Rico rivalry they represent with Burgos coming away with a decision win.

Prescott VS Alvarado was a great fight, with Prescott building an early lead bloodying up the face of Alvarado before a war erupted in the middle rounds, with Prescott being stopped in the last round after being dropped for the first time in his career. I hope both fighters made some fans that night.

Bradley Casamayor was an ugly fight as was expected, but Bradley's KO win still showed he's as sharp as ever and is still ready to establish dominance at 140 and possibly move up to welterweight.

As for the main event, Juan Manuel Marquez did the unthinkable and dragged Manny Pacquiao through another tought, close twelve rounds at 38 years old past his best natural weight. The most tactical of their three fights, Marquez was able to use the same fundamental strategies he'd used before to take away the punching angle from Pacquiao laterally and land combinations & counter-punches consistently throughout the night. Many people feel that he did more than enough to win the decision, but it was Pacquiao's name that was called after the final bell had rung-except this time, Marquez was the only one to raise his hand in triumph at the end of the twelfth, while Pacquiao hung his head as he walked back to his silent corner.

This was another great fight of tactical competition and spirited exchanges between the two. Who do you think won?

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RedSonRising

1st December 2011, 02:52

Hello all. This Saturday is one of the year's most anticipated fights- the grudge match between Miguel Cotto and Antonio Margarito. Their first fight was full of controversy; despite Cotto building up an early lead, his stamina started to fade while Margarito's pressure became more and more effective. It ended in the 11th round, with a bloody Cotto taking a knee before his corner through in the towel. Some say he never looked the same after that, parting ways with his long-time trainer and uncle, looking gunshy in the next series of fights, which included a lopsided loss to Manny Pacquiao.

In Margarito's next fight, his trainer was caught wrapping his hands with a hardened gauze pad, which was confiscated and then concluded to have traces of plaster on them. After his trainer Javier Capetillo being banned from working professional corners in the United States and Margarito was banned for a year, he came back with new acclaimed trainer Robert Garcia to fight Pacquiao, in which he proved he was still a formidable force, but was severely damaged by an accumulation of punches. His orbital bone was cracked, and he required one surgery to unpack lodged muscle within the crevice, and a second to remove a cataract plaguing his eye.

Now, the two meet again in search of redemption. A lot has changed since then; Cotto himself has switched trainers, first finding success with Hall of Fame trainer Emmanuel Steward before hooking up with acclaimed Cuban Olympic coach Perdo Luis Diaz Benitez. Lots of questions remained unanswered. Does Cotto have enough left to keep Margarito off of him? Will Margarito's eye hold up through the punishment? What does this bout signify in terms of their first fight? Where does a loss place each fighter?

I myself will be there live in Madison Square Garden, Cotto's home away from home amidst his Puerto Rican fanbase, and I can't wait.

Folks, I've said it before, but now more than ever before, I must insist: don't miss this fight! It will get violent, and this time, it's personal.

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RedSonRising

3rd January 2012, 22:35

So anyone been following the last couple of fights? Cotto-Margarito was awesome, and Andre Ward just won the Super Six final against Carl Froch in an impressive display.

I'm sad nobody is posting :(

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RedSonRising

17th January 2012, 10:26

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17th January 2012, 10:48

I am 187cm (6'2'') and fight at 75kg (165lbs) I am a long distance fighter who moves a lot and jabs people to death, I also have a solid punch that has put people down on several occasions.

I follow the sport as much as I can considering my cable sucks. :P

I have competed, and currently do compete.

Yes, but only a couple of times. It wasn't really purposeful use of the skills, just outright reaction. Punch came at me, i picked it and followed up with a 3-4 punch combination, the other guy got KO'd and lost some teeth in the process.

I have sparred Grady Brewer (winner from the contender series) several times, in the gym I originally started training I constantly sparred with Carson Jones (current number 8 in the world in the welterweight division) we stay in touch on facebook and he gives me insight as to what it is like when he is away at camp. In general I always sparred with experienced pros and it has helped my development tremendously.

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25th January 2012, 22:12

Alright, I'm officially calling out all past and present boxers on Revleft here:

What's your size & style?
Do you follow the sport? If so, whose is/are your favorite(s)?
Did you ever compete?
Ever have to use your boxing skills in real life?
Have any cool stories about your gym, coach, sparring, etc.?

5'11'' and I was a Super Bantamweight. Since I was in a division where boxers are usually about 5'5''-5'6'' he wanted me to do the typical big guy thing and just keep him on the outside with my jab. Honestly my inside game was pretty bad and I never really improved on it during my time boxing.

Yes. Miguel Cotto, Guillermo Rigondeaux, Yuriorkis Gamboa, Kiko Martinez, Manny Pacquiao, Lennox Lewis, Joe Frazier, Jose Legra, Javier Castillejo, just to name a few.

No, I never got the chance.

No, I've never been in a fight luckily. Plenty of times I thought I was gonna have to though.

My trainer was an old man named Ali LeFleur. He was an amateur who never got a chance to turn pro because he got shot in the leg during a break in, so he decided to become a trainer to pass along his knowledge. A nice man, but in truth not a very good trainer. He would often just tell us to punch the bags and then he'd leave, leaving us to teach ourselves really.

Bandito

26th January 2012, 10:09

Not boxing. But damn fucking great.

Meet little Stevo.

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MegaBrah

26th January 2012, 22:50

Not boxing. But damn fucking great.

Meet little Stevo.

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Oh shit dude I saw this last week, fucking awesome!

There are some guys at bjj who supplement their bjj with wrestling and sambo and they are beasty, can't get the motherfuckers off you!

RedSonRising

31st January 2012, 01:01

Thanks for the answers, to those who responded to me questions. You'll find characters of all sorts and shapes and sizes in boxing gyms.

This Saturday, there's a really good card on HBO called "Welcome to the Future." It refers to rising star Nonito "the Filipino Flash" Donaire going up against proven contender Miguel Vasquez Jr., and hopeful champion (with something of a void in the public's eye in terms of his merits) Julio Cesar Chavez Jr. going up against possibly his biggest test yet in tough veteran puncher Marco Antonio Rubio. Both fights look to be really exciting and competitive while they last; don't miss this double-header.

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(Also, Donaire has a crazy workout video up on youtube that's very impressive; I'll send it or post it for anyone interested in looking at it; and remember, if you don't have a way to watch a televised fight you're interested in, just ask me for a tip.)

Ele'ill

10th February 2012, 02:00

Not boxing but I hope this video can be appreciated here too.

Two not very physically big fighters. Mike Zambidis and Chahid

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RedSonRising

10th February 2012, 03:30

Not boxing but I hope this video can be appreciated here too.

Two not very physically big fighters. Mike Zambidis and Chahid

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Thanks for sharing but I'd prefer you post that elsewhere, like in the Combat Sports video. I'll take a look though, always appreciate combat technique.

RedSonRising

11th February 2012, 03:09

In other news, Manny Pacquiao just signed to fight Timothy Bradley, and Floyd Mayweather Jr. just signed to fight Miguel Cotto.

RedSonRising

22nd February 2012, 04:26

Yo guys, there's a great fight on this Saturday. Fierce Argentine puncher Marcos Maidana is going to fight southpaw Devon Alexander in his hometown of St. Louis. Alexander has had a couple of questionable victories there, and many think he should be 0-3 in his last few fights. He's trying to remain relevant, as is Maidana, who knows he'll probably have to knock Alexander out cold in order to get the victory. Alexander has some decent boxing skills, but he's also been known to cave under pressure, which is Maidana's specialty. Check it out!

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Bandito

22nd February 2012, 10:07

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RedSonRising

9th March 2012, 05:57

Yo peeps, don't miss Juan Manuel Lopez-Orlando Salido II this weekend. The first one was a war, and this second one promises just as much action. Lopez is training get what looked like a promising career before he was dethroned back on track, and Salido will try to hold on to the title he worked so hard for and prove to the world that the upset was no fluke. Make sure you catch it!

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Here's a really great article about the drama of this fight, and how it encapsulates all things great in boxing:

Why We Love Boxing: Revisiting Lopez-Salido: Fight 1 (by Thomas Gerbasi, BoxingScene.com)
Generally speaking, 30 isn’t old for a prizefighter, unless you’re below the lightweight division; in that case, add a few more years to your chronological age and you will find Orlando Salido, whose age acceleration was likely helped by the 50 pro fights he had entering the first Lopez bout. You could see it on his face – 30 had passed him a long time ago. He had to know this was going to be his last big shot before being relegated to the “opponent” circuit. And even now, following his loss seven months earlier to Gamboa, he wasn’t expected to beat the hard-punching Lopez. If anything, he was going to be the appetizer for Lopez to make the Gamboa fight, for the Puerto Rican to become the first fighter to stop him since 2000. Ciudad Obregon’s Salido was going to be the sacrificial lamb for the 27-year old with a bright future, and the boos showered on the Mexican when he was introduced by Jimmy Lennon Jr. were ceremonial at best. He wasn’t going to win, and Puerto Rico knew it.
You expect that Lopez knew that he was going to win as well. Sure, he was going through a divorce and admitted later that he wasn’t completely focused for the bout, but when you enter the ring with a 30-0 record that includes 27 knockouts, you have a certain swagger that any out of the ring issues can be compensated for in the ring with one swing of your fist. And if a less than one hundred percent Lopez was going to get beaten, it wasn’t going to be by Orlando Salido.
Given that, round one was, as round ones go, fairly uneventful. Lopez was busy from the outside, Salido followed and tried to get physical on the inside, and there were no indications that a major upset was in the making.
Rounds Two and Three
Salido knew something about upsets though, having handed then highly-touted Lamont Pearson his first pro loss back in 2002. But the big one was his dominant victory over Robert Guerrero in 2006. It was a lopsided win by Salido, but one tainted by a positive test for the steroid nandrolone that caused the result to be overturned and ruled a no contest. Salido claimed innocence in the matter, but the verdict stood. Nearly four years later, he got another shot at the IBF featherweight title he was forced to relinquish, and against Cristobal Cruz, he won a 12 round decision and the belt. Four months later, Gamboa came into the picture and removed the title from Salido’s possession.
The past didn’t matter on this night though, and if it did, it would only be in Salido’s mind as a reminder to let him know that anything is possible. And when you’ve been fighting since the age of 15 and have rebounded from an 11-7-1 start to your career to make it to this point, you are well aware that if the stars are aligned and you’re on top of your game, you can beat anyone.
In the second, Lopez’ southpaw jab was strong, but his left was lazy, and Salido began taking advantage by tagging the champion with the right hand. Lopez appeared unbothered though, and as the fight heated up with some solid exchanges on the inside in the second and third frames, it was “JuanMa” in control.
Round Four
Lopez was in control at Madison Square Garden’s Theater a year and a half earlier against rugged journeyman Rogers Mtagwa as well, dazzling his opponent and thrilling his fans early on until the steel-chinned Mtagwa took all the then-WBO super bantamweight champion had to give and then began firing back. By the championship rounds, Mtagwa had taken over, nearly knocking Lopez out in the 11th and 12th. Lopez made it to the final bell and his early lead secured his decision victory, but the cautionary flags were thrown up everywhere. Three wins – all KOs – over Steven Luevano, Bernabe Concepcion, and Rafael Marquez silenced things for a while, but Salido (who stopped Mtagwa in five rounds in 2006) was eager to ask those questions of Lopez’ chin and stamina once again.
As the fourth commenced, referee Roberto Ramirez Jr. announced the round number to the combatants, and you wonder what goes through a fighter’s head when you hear that it’s the fourth round and you still could have eight more to go after this one. Lopez despite being a champion since 2008, had only gone the 12 round distance once, against Mtagwa. On the other hand, Salido had five championship distance fights under his belt. That was the good news. The bad was that he was 1-3, with 1 NC in those fights. So you assume that both fighters wanted to end things as soon as possible, and they fought like it.
But in that fourth round, Lopez continued to complain about Salido’s work on the inside, which broke the Caguas fighter’s poker face and provided the first glimpse into a fighter not completely ready to perform the task at hand. Salido’s facial expression never changed, and he continued to trudge forward, tagging his opponent with more right hands. Lopez backed up under the assault, and when he did fire back, he leaned forward awkwardly with his punches, leaving himself off balance for more abuse, which he took like you would expect a champion to – with a shake of the head and a willingness to jump right back into battle. But as the bell rang, the tide was starting to turn.
Round Five
When you’ve been a professional boxer for half your life, there are, as mentioned earlier, particular certainties in the fight game. One is that you’re not likely to get a decision win in another fighter’s hometown, especially when that fighter is the champion and the A-side on the bout sheet. Salido had to know that he wasn’t walking out of Bayamon with a decision, so he had to find another way. Late in round five, a left hook / right hand combination showed him that way, as he dropped Lopez hard to the canvas.
Lopez rose to his feet on wobbly legs, looking blankly out into the crowd until steadying himself with the top rope. There were 17 seconds left in the round when he was cleared by Ramirez to continue, and he ran back at Salido, hoping that the motion would get the blood flowing in his legs again. Salido attacked and Lopez fired back. The bell rang. Suddenly, Salido wasn’t an underdog anymore. He was the favorite racing down the home stretch.
Round Six
As the champion was ragdolled onto his stool by his trainer at the end of the fifth, the horns had stopped blaring in the arena, but there was still a loud buzz from the partisan crowd. Their hero was wounded, but he wasn’t done yet, and when it comes to Puerto Rican boxing fans, hope remains eternal. Whether it was the greats of the past like Wilfredo Gomez, Wilfred Benitez, and Felix Trinidad, or the current standouts: Lopez, Miguel Cotto, and Ivan Calderon, loyalty is more important than anything when it comes to picking your fistic heroes. I remember the night Trinidad lost to Bernard Hopkins in 2001, and watching grown men draped in the Puerto Rican flag crying on the F train to Brooklyn. That type of devotion can push you past your breaking point and propel you to heights you couldn’t reach otherwise.
JuanMa” Lopez needed his island behind him now, and they weren’t about to let him down. At the bell to start round six, he looked out into the crowd, possibly at his children at ringside and winked as if to say “I’m okay.” Like fathers do sometimes to protect their kids, it was a white lie.
Salido came forward with a purpose as the round began. He swung the left hook first to try to open Lopez up for the right hand that sent him to the mat a round earlier. Then came the right hand. Lopez knew what his opponent was doing and he banged his gloves together in response.
“Bring it.”
Salido did as instructed, staggering Lopez again and again. Even the champion’s ‘puncher’s chance’ had dissipated, as nothing he threw deterred the challenger’s forward march. A woman at ringside covered her mouth in apparent disbelief. The man next to her shook her head. This was not the way things were supposed to go. But when the gloves are on and the bell rings, the only ones determining the outcome are the ones with those gloves.
Lopez wasn’t about to go away quietly though. He continued to motivate himself and the crowd by taking Salido’s blows and then banging his gloves together. His punches had lost their snap, but he didn’t stop throwing them. The woman in distress just moments earlier began smiling and clapping, overjoyed that her fighter was coming back. And just like that, it was a fight again.
Round Seven
Everybody loves a winner, but what people love even more is a comeback. After being knocked down and then tagged with shots that would have finished lesser men, WBO featherweight champion Juan Manuel Lopez had apparently survived the worst abuse Orlando Salido could throw at him, and now he was about to put on a second half surge and retain his title.
Or so the fans packing the Coliseo Ruben Rodriguez thought. Salido, the challenger, the one who was a loss away from being described in press releases as “a rugged warrior” who was destined to be a gatekeeper, had to know that the biggest win of his career was in his grasp. He just had to keep doing what he was doing, pick his shots, and break a champion who didn’t break that easily.
So as Lopez fired off a series of punches that were more showy than effective, Salido looked to land his right hand on the chin once again. What was once a quixotic quest had turned real, if only the perfect storm of opportunity and action would intersect for him again. It didn’t happen in round seven though, as Lopez began that second half surge and got back in the fight.
Round Eight
Between rounds seven and eight, Salido showed the first signs of doubt on his face. Or maybe it wasn’t doubt; maybe it was a look that said “what do I have to do to knock this guy out?” Whatever it was, Salido was about to go back to work. It’s what he did. For 15 of his 30 years, he worked in the ring. He wasn’t fancy, he wasn’t spectacular. And when he won, it wasn’t because he was born with talents greater than his opponent, it was because he worked harder and was willing to dig deeper. On April 16, 2011, he found himself in with an opponent willing to go to the depths just as he did, but now it was time to go to work and finish the job.
And he did.
He decided that Lopez’ punches didn’t hurt anymore, that the crowd wasn’t screaming for his head, and that if he could push past the fatigue for just a little while longer, he would change his life forever. And with each right hand, he got closer. Lopez, still throwing, was staggering, fighting on pure heart, but finally, Ramirez decided that he would rescue the champion from himself, and he stopped the fight at 1:39 of the eighth round. Lopez protested, but it was to no avail.

Orlando Salido was a world champion again.

Juan Manuel Lopez was an ex-champion, but one who could hold his head up high for his efforts.

On Saturday night, they do it again.

Drama. Intrigue. Plot twists. All in less than an hour.

This is why I love boxing.

RedSonRising

11th March 2012, 16:50

Did anyone catch the fights last night?! Lopez-Salido II was an absolute WAR! It could go down as a potential for fight of the year, might have the round of the year, and possibly even the knockout of the year, depending on how the rest of the year shapes up. I feel bad for those who didn't catch it. Check it out!

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RedSonRising

16th March 2012, 19:19

Tomorrow, Middleweight king Sergio Martinez is facing top Irish contender Matthew Macklin in Madison Square Garden in what looks to be a very fan-friendly fight. Macklin has just come off a controversial loss in Germany against titleholder Felix Sturm, in which most think he should have come out victorious. On St. Patrick's day, we'll see if some luck can compliment his aggressive come-forward style against Martinez's own elusive but potently dangerous southpaw style. Martinez should be looking to impress after a less than spectacular performance against Englishman Darren Barker, and Macklin will be trying to seize the opportunity of a lifetime. Expect a war, and don't miss it!

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RedSonRising

17th March 2012, 19:21

Whose pumped for a worthy St. Paddy's day fight? Macklin VS Martinez is almost here!

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Rising star Kell Brook of Sheffield is also taking on Matthew Hatton at 5pm EDT on Sky Sports, which should be a great fight and a stiff test.

RedSonRising

22nd March 2012, 20:17

Anyone catch the fight? It was real good!

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I know there are people viewing this thread. I see the counts go up. SHOW YOURSELVES!!

(Please?)

RedSonRising

24th March 2012, 16:31

This is on tonight, should be an awesome pair of scraps. Mexican legend Erik Morales is trying to prove he's still got it against a dangerous contender in Danny Garcia, while hyper-aggressive and monster puncher James Kirkland takes on a tough challenge in the very underrated and technically sound Carlos Molina. These should be pretty violent but interesting fights.

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RedSonRising

7th April 2012, 06:02

Miguel Cotto VS Floyd Mayweather Jr. is less than a month away!

Here's the face-off of both fighters:
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RedSonRising

19th April 2012, 23:12

Check out the first episode of HBO's Emmy-award-winning documentary series 24/7, which documents the camp of both Miguel Cotto and Floyd Mayweather Jr. as they prepare for their fight on May 5th:

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RedSonRising

23rd April 2012, 18:04

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RedSonRising

27th April 2012, 09:38

Tomorrow night, living legend Bernard Hopkins, the oldest man to win a world championship in boxing history, will take on Chad Dawson, the younger, faster, taller former Light-Heavyweight Champion who reigned as the division's number 1 fighter for a number of years (prior to his first loss at the hands of Jean Pascal, who Hopkins would later dethrone to make history). After their first match ended in a controversial no-decision in which Dawson threw Hopkins off of his back onto the floor in an awkward clinch and supposedly injured his shoulder, lots of talk has been going on among fans. Some say Dawson looked nervous and threw Hopkins intentionally, while others say Hopkins was uncomfortable and faked an injury to find a way out.

Regardless, the rematch is set, and the next-and perhaps a most difficult-chapter of Bernard Hopkins's legacy continues on in Atlantic City.

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RedSonRising

30th April 2012, 09:42

Hopkins-Dawson was a competitive, but slow and one-sided fight for Dawson. It seems that the legacy of Bernard Hopkins has come to an end. Much respect to a legend.

In other news, Cotto-Mayweather is just 1 week away!!!

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RedSonRising

4th May 2012, 09:08

Cotto-Mayweather is tomorrow!

Here's a great quick overview of their styles and abilities, and how they might match up this Saturday night in the ring.
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RedSonRising

5th May 2012, 04:33

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RedSonRising

1st June 2012, 18:57

For anyone that missed the Cotto fight a few weeks back, here it is in all its glory, great close fight!

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For any English or Canadian fans, did you see Carl Froch VS Lucian Bute? Bute was a huge favorite, and was dominated by Froch's straight right hand assault, before being stopped in the 5th in a great upset.

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In just over a week, Manny Pacquiao is going to take on Timothy Bradley. Bradley is undefeated, quick, hungry, and very well-rounded in his skill-set. Pacquiao is out to perform well for fans after looking sub-par against Marquez in a fight many felt he lost, but if he has indeed slipped, Bradley may be the one to capitalize on it. Check out the latest specials, including the face-off and award-winning documentary series 24/7 following the two as they train in camp.

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RedSonRising

4th June 2012, 00:24

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RedSonRising

9th June 2012, 05:33

The fighters have weighed in and the fight is tomorrow!! Any predictions?

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Pretty Flaco

9th June 2012, 06:01

pacquiao. i bet $20.

Pretty Flaco

10th June 2012, 17:45

the fuck? bradley won? :confused:

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RedSonRising

14th June 2012, 22:20

the fuck? bradley won? :confused:

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Robbery Man! Though I'd love to see Khan fight him.

For anyone that missed out, Pacquiao-Bradley was a solid fight, with Manny initiating most of the action, and Bradley standing his ground, but eating the harder punches and failing to put together a meaningful offense for a majority of rounds. To most fans, anyway. Somehow, the judges gave Bradley the decision in what may be the worst robbery I've ever seen. For highlights, check this out:

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This Saturday night is a real good night for boxing. Julio Cesar Chavez Jr., the son of the legend and best Mexican fighter in history, goes up against tough and skilled Irishman Andy Lee. Chavez has been upping his level of competition in his recent fights, and Lee is certainly his biggest test. Trained by Hall of Fame trainer Emmanuel Steward, Lee has an awkward outside fighting style that he mixes in with gritty inside work. Can it overcome Chavez's size, volume, chin, and body punching ability? Don't miss it, it's gonna be a good fight.

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Savant

18th June 2012, 22:56

@RedSonRising Hey comrade, I've been slightly interested in boxing for a while, but I never really gotten into it nor do I know where to start. Could you point me in the right direction, maybe recommend me some really good fights?? (I'm an MMA fan btw)

RedSonRising

19th June 2012, 08:23

RedSonRising

1st July 2012, 06:02

Hey guys. For anyone who missed it, here's Pacquiao-Bradley in full!

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Former prospect Victor Ortiz was in a Fight of the Year candidate with unknown underdog Josesito Lopez! After having quit against Marcos Maidana early in his career while still able to carry on, Ortiz had a lot of questions raised about his heart and dedication. When he got up off the canvas multiple times to beat Andre Berto and take his 0, people thought he might have matured. Again, against Mayweather, he fouls and gets knocked out after seemingly looking for a way out of his frustrations. And again, after fouling and getting his jaw broken through repeated exchanges, Ortiz quits against a kid who he was supposed to run through! Plans with rising 21 year old Mexican sensation Canelo Alvarez are now cancelled, and the future looks uncertain for Victor ortiz. Check it out!

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RedSonRising

7th July 2012, 08:35

Today (7/7) has a lot of quality boxing going on today.

First off, Wladimir Klitschko, the co-reigning Heavyweight Champion (along with his brother) takes on Tony Thompson. Thompson is a southpaw who gave Wlad his toughest fight in his second reign as champion, out-landing him over a majority of rounds before being knocked out in the 11th. He hasn't lost since then, and looks to challenge Wlad's supremacy by making history; Wlad, on the other hand, wants a definitive and vindicating knockout win. This should be a more entertaining Klitschko fight than we're used to seeing.

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Later on, Nonito "The Filipino Flash" Donaire takes on South African Jeffrey Mathebula. Donaire is looking to regain momentum after struggling somewhat with his last opponent, where he injured his hand. As Manny Pacquiao's heir apparent, he looks to impress against the much taller Mathebula (a first for Donaire), who is fighting out of his home country for the first time, with his blinding speed, knockout power, smart counter-punching, & footwork. Don't miss it!

(The second video is a special which documents what went on behind the scenes and within the camp of Donaire leading up to, during, and after his last fight against Puerto Rican contender Wilfredo Vasquez Jr.)

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ВАЛТЕР

7th July 2012, 08:50

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7th July 2012, 08:55

Wladimir hasn't lost in over eight years. Mr. Thompson wasn't able to stop that streak back in 2008 and I don't think much has changed since. That being said, Mr. Klitschko's somewhat questionable chin prevents most of his fights from being sure bets.

Klitschko by latter round stoppage.

RedSonRising

7th July 2012, 18:41

I would like to add that tonight a friend of mine named Carson Jones is fighting in London against Kell Brook. Carson is a great guy and he was in the same gym that I started boxing in way back when. Me and him used to spar daily back when I was a welterweight and I wish him all the best. He's a great fighter to watch and has improved drastically in the past few years. In the US I'm sure that ESPN will show the fight, while in Europe Sky sports will be showing it.

Wow, you know Carson? That's awesome man. I was hoping to mention the Kell Brook fight on here actually. You know if the trash talk is genuine or more promotional stuff? I think it's gonna be a great fight, good luck to your man!!

Wladimir hasn't lost in over eight years. Mr. Thompson wasn't halt to stop that streak back in 2008 and I don't think much has changed since. That being said, Mr. Klitschko's somewhat questionable chin prevents most of his fights from being sure bets.

Klitschko by latter round stoppage.

Solid prediction, I have to agree. Though the southpaw dynamic makes it interesting, especially when you consider Thompson has the longer reach, which never happens. I favor Klitschko considerably, but it's a plus for Thompson that he's never lost since the first fight.

RedSonRising

14th July 2012, 04:28

Carson Jones put up a really great fight against Brook! That one merits a rematch. Brook is a top prospect but he needs to improve if he's going to achieve all they say he's going to.

In a competitive fight, Klithscko KO'ed Thompson once again, with him landing in a similarly funny arm-as-a-pillow position as in the first fight. Donaire underperformed against the relatively unknown Mathebula, and it was a fairly boring fight. Onto more exciting things this Saturday the 14th!

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After giving Vitali Klitschko one of his toughest fights, the tough and somewhat unstable Derek Chisora challenged David Haye, who formerly gave Bitish boxing a huge buzz when he challenged Wladimir Klitschko for his titles. Though he underperformed (according to him, due to a broken toe), fans think he might produce fireworks this time around when matched up with Chisora. The post-fight conference after Chisora's match with Klitschko was where this event first happened, as Chisora and Haye got into a street brawl right there. Haye smashed Chisora's face with a bottle, and they scuffled, with Chisora yelling "he glussed me! He glussed me!" in a very comedic fashion. There is a lot of bad blood here and the styles look to mesh beautifully. Don't miss it!

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Later on is Amir Khan VS Danny Garcia. When Khan took on Peterson and loss, his credibility seemed to falter a little, as he seemed unable to deal with excessive pressure from his opponent. After it was revealed that Peterson tested positive for Performance Enhancing Drug related substances, Khan was scheduled to fight Danny Garcia, a recently crowned titleholder who has looked impressive fighting decent opposition, most notably the faded but still durable Mexican legend Erik Morales. After a long layoff and lots of frustration at racist attacks from Garcia's father, Khan is looking to produce an explosive and impressive performance, while Garcia hopes to seize the opportunity of a lifetime by exploiting Khan's boxistic flaws. I personally am looking forward to this fight very much, I don't think it's going to go the distance.

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Savant

17th July 2012, 01:46

^ Rofl at Dereck Chisora, "He Glassed Me!" "He Glassed Me!".

RedSonRising

24th July 2012, 21:57

Haye VS Chisora was a great fight, back and forth action with Haye controlling the distance while Chisora made things as awkward as he could with his relentless pressure. The ending KO was great to watch. Here's the full match!

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Danny Garcia shocked the world when he knocked out Amir Khan, making this the 3rd loss in his career, the 2nd knockout loss, and his second loss in a row. While Khan controlled the fight early, he became sloppy and offensively over-eager; as he gave up his height, Garcia took advantage with a perfect counter, and kept the punches coming while Khan struggled to stay on his feet and going down again and again. Check it out!

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RedSonRising

31st July 2012, 05:01

Hey guys, lots of excitement so far in Olympic boxing, especially from team USA, who are at 5-1 right now, if I remember right. Here is the upcoming schedule:

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RedSonRising

5th August 2012, 18:36

Anyone following the Olympic fighters? Women's Boxing makes its Olympic debut today! Seems to me like an empowering moment. Here's the schedule (Eastern Time) for anyone wanting to follow today's fights.

Women's Flyweight (112 lbs/51kg)
8:30 a.m. - Elena Savelyeva (Russia) vs Hye Song Kim (North Korea)
8:45 a.m. - Erica Matos (Brazil) vs Karlha Magliocco (Venezuela)
9:00 a.m. - Karolina Michalczuk (Poland) vs Mary Kom (India)
9:15 a.m. - Stoyka Petrova (Bulgaria) vs Siona Fernandes (New Zealand)
Women's Lightweight (132 lbs/60kg)
9:30 a.m. - Queen Underwood (United States) vs Natasha Jones (Great Britain)
9:45 a.m. - Mihaela Lacatus (Romania) vs Cheng Dong (China)
10:00 a.m. - Adriana Araujo (Brazil) vs Saida Khassenov (Kazakhstan)
10:15 a.m. - Alexis Pritchard (New Zealand) vs Rim Jouini (Tunisia)
Women's Middleweight (165 lbs/75kg)
10:30 a.m. - Marina Volnova (Kazakhstan) vs Elizabeth Andiego (Kenya)
10:45 a.m. - Anna Laurell (Sweden) vs Naomi-Lee Fischer-Rasmussen (Australia)
11:00 a.m. - Roseli Feitosa (Brazil) vs Jinzi Li (China)
11:15 a.m. - Yelena Vystropova (Azerbaijan) vs Edith Ogoke (Nigeria)
Men's Bantamweight - Quarterfinals
3:30 p.m. - Lazaro Alvarez (Cuba) vs Robenilson Vieira (Brazil)
3:45 p.m. - John Joe Nevin (Ireland) vs Oscar Valdez (Mexico)
4:00 p.m. - Luke Campbell (Great Britain) vs Detelin Dalakliev (Bulgaria)
4:15 p.m. - Mohamed Amine Ouadahi (Algeria) vs Satoshi Shimizu (Japan)
Men's Heavyweight - Quarterfinals
4:30 p.m. - Oleksandr Usyk (Ukraine) vs Artur Beterbiev (Russia)
4:45 p.m. - Tervel Pulev (Bulgaria) vs Yamil Peralta (Argentina)
5:00 p.m. - Teymur Mammadov (Azerbaijan) vs Siarhei Karneyeu (Belarus)
5:15 p.m. - Jose Larduet (Cuba) vs Clemente Russo (Italy)

Aziz

5th August 2012, 18:55

Olympic boxing is really hard for me to get into, so boring.

Then again boxing/

Anyone here excited about Hendo - Edgar fight tonight?

pastradamus

9th August 2012, 17:53

Absolutely delighted. Katie Taylor wins Irelands first gold in the Womens Lightweight category. Another medal to add to her 4 World titles and 5 European titles. There would be no womens boxing in the olympics without her as she was the main arguing point when the decision was made in Germany in 2009 to allow it in 2012, and she deserves a gold medal on that basis alone.

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RedSonRising

9th August 2012, 18:27

pastradamus

16th August 2012, 01:51

RedSonRising

19th August 2012, 04:14

Just a semi-nationalistic shout-out to our boxers. Katie Taylor won gold, John Joe Nevin silver, Paddy barnes and Michael Conlon bronze. Good performance for a small nation. i was dissapointed Darren O Neill didn't get a medal because I wanted to say "that was the guy who beat me in 2007!" :D

...and a gold for redsonrising for coming up with this thread. We need a couple more boxers round here!

Preach comrade! Congratulations on the wins. Nevin VS Valdez was the best Olympic fight I saw, very skilled performance.

And yeah, come out of hiding you rugged creatures! We need more of our modern-day-gladiators to share our appreciation for the sport with us. How long did you compete for P, what's your style?

These couple of upcoming months are absolutely packed with quality fights, so stay tuned for updates people!

pastradamus

19th August 2012, 08:58

Preach comrade! Congratulations on the wins. Nevin VS Valdez was the best Olympic fight I saw, very skilled performance.

And yeah, come out of hiding you rugged creatures! We need more of our modern-day-gladiators to share our appreciation for the sport with us. How long did you compete for P, what's your style?

These couple of upcoming months are absolutely packed with quality fights, so stay tuned for updates people!

Haha, Well im 26 now. Out of the game a couple of year. I was involved from the age of about 11-24 (ish). I boxed, Thai boxed. Irish amateur middleweight in 2003, though im a fatter bastard these days:lol:. Im an orthodox fighter. I usually keep on the outside because of my height at that weight (6'2ft) but some fighters I used to go in close on because I knew them. In Muay thai I only ever did about five fights in all. Won 3, drew 1(that I though I should have lost), lost 1 so not so bad but I preferred boxing.

RedSonRising

1st September 2012, 18:16

Haha, Well im 26 now. Out of the game a couple of year. I was involved from the age of about 11-24 (ish). I boxed, Thai boxed. Irish amateur middleweight in 2003, though im a fatter bastard these days:lol:. Im an orthodox fighter. I usually keep on the outside because of my height at that weight (6'2ft) but some fighters I used to go in close on because I knew them. In Muay thai I only ever did about five fights in all. Won 3, drew 1(that I though I should have lost), lost 1 so not so bad but I preferred boxing.

Great stuff man, I like to fight tall myself. It's cool you dipped in Muay Thai, always good to experiment with more tools, but pure boxing is the sweet science after all :D

These past few months have been a desert with so few quality fights, but all that changes this month!

September 8th, two top American champions, both king of their respective divisions, face off to determine supremacy. Super-Middleweight Champion Andre Ward is just coming off sensational victory against Carl Froch which crowned him the winner of the Super Six tournament, and king of the division. Chad Dawson has just vanquished All-Time-Great Bernard Hopkins, beating him in a decisive manner which hasn't been seen in over a decade. Coming down to 168, Dawson is challenging Ward for his titles. This fight is one of the most anticipated of the year, and is being fought between two of the most technically sound fighters in the game.

(Full 24/7 episode to be posted once I find it in full.)

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Also coming up is Sergio Martinez VS Julio Cesar Chavez Jr., in perhaps an even more anticipated match-up. Sergio Martinez has been considered the king of the 160lb Middleweight division, knocking out contenders with accurate shots, or simply out-boxing others with his hands-down, speedy southpaw counter-punching style. He was, however, stripped of his championship belt under questionable circumstances, and it was awarded to Julio Cesar Chavez Jr. in a vacant title fight with little apparent merit. Chavez Jr., the son of the most celebrated Mexican fighter of all time, has been criticized in the past for having opportunities given to him unfairly, but he has been coming into his own as a top-level fighter, improving his aggressive style along with his quality of opposition. Not only is this fight one of great magnitude for the division and the landscape of elite-level boxing, but a personal matter between a veteran trying to prove once and for all his relatively unrecognized worth, and a youngster trying to step out of his father's shadow and establish his own legend. Check out the hype behind the biggest match-up of the year with HBO's quality video productions.

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RedSonRising

3rd September 2012, 21:25

Ward VS Dawson 24/7: 9DqiKPpGP6Y

The fight is this Saturday!!!!

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RedSonRising

8th September 2012, 07:48

The fighters have weighed in!!

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Any predictions?

RedSonRising

14th September 2012, 22:42

Comrades, the future of boxing has arrived. Against Light-Heavyweight champion of the world, Andre Ward put on the most beautiful display of boxing I've witnessed in years. His defensive and offensive control of range was precise, his accuracy was incredible, and his blitzing combinations firing off from behind the jab were unstoppable. Once Andre Ward neutralized Chad Dawson's jab by pivoting to get his lead foot on the outside of Dawson's (a conventional tool to use against a southpaw), Dawson was a sitting duck, unable to read Ward's feints and without a punching angle. Watch the full fight if you can, you will not be disappointed; Ward is such a complete fighter that he may very well reign as a Pound for Pound king for the next era of boxing.

Here is the Full Fight!

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Also coming up is Saul Canelo Alvarez, the undefeated 22 year old Mexican ginger sensation, against Josesito Lopez, the fiery Mexican-American who recently upset Victor Ortiz in a fight of the year candidate. Canelo has a big size advantage, but you'd be stupid to count someone with the heart of Lopez out.

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Also this Saturday is the reckoning of the Middleweight division: Sergio Martinez against Julio Cesar Chavez Jr. All I can say about this fight is that there is no doubt that quality technical boxing will unfold through a display of violence and competitive eagerness that defines championship-level fighting. Sergio Martinez is trying to make his mark on boxing by fighting the best possible foes he can get his hands on, and Chavez Jr. is obliging by trying to distinguish his own name and achieve true recognition for what he hopes to be the start of a legendary career. If you don't watch boxing for another 6 months, if you never click on this thread again, at least make sure you watch this fight.

(Episode 2:)

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Niall

16th September 2012, 14:53

what do you guys make of ricky hatton's comeback

RedSonRising

21st September 2012, 18:28

what do you guys make of ricky hatton's comeback

If he does it right, he can make something out of it. He's always excited fans. His comeback fight has sold 18,000 tickets in 48 hours! Look forward to seeing how much he can recapture

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Check out the Chavez-Martinez highlights; amazing fight with Sergio putting on an intense display which ended in a dramatically suspenseful 12th-round.

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Niall

28th September 2012, 10:31

If he does it right, he can make something out of it. He's always excited fans. His comeback fight has sold 18,000 tickets in 48 hours! Look forward to seeing how much he can recapture

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yeah, if he avoids the likes of pacman etc he could do well. I think he could beat malinaggi again

pastradamus

28th September 2012, 22:06

If he does it right, he can make something out of it. He's always excited fans. His comeback fight has sold 18,000 tickets in 48 hours! Look forward to seeing how much he can recapture

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Check out the Chavez-Martinez highlights; amazing fight with Sergio putting on an intense display which ended in a dramatically suspenseful 12th-round.

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Great fighter but in my opinion he's dragging the name out a bit. Good, but nothing on his old man.

RedSonRising

2nd October 2012, 02:49

yeah, if he avoids the likes of pacman etc he could do well. I think he could beat malinaggi again

Yeah, he could still do well at the sub-elite level I think. He's coming back against Senchenko, who just lost by KO to Malignaggi, decent comeback opponent. Well see how much he has left.

Great fighter but in my opinion he's dragging the name out a bit. Good, but nothing on his old man.

Yeah, he's limited in terms of his dimension, especially when compared to his father, but I think he'll continue improving. He just wasn't ready for someone as good as Martinez. He needs to stop draining himself too. His stomach at the weigh-in against Martinez was fucking concave!

In other news, Mayweather isn't fighting this year since he claims to have lost 15 pounds getting by on commissary in jail, and Pacquiao is fighting Juan Manuel Marquez again.

RedSonRising

13th October 2012, 21:17

Yo guys, great night of boxing tonight, exciting double-header with a variety of styles!

Nonito "Filipino Flash" Donaire is going to take on unbeaten quick and powerful boxer Toshiaki Nishioka. After a few uninspiring performances, Donaire is looking to go back to his fundamentals and let the knockout come to him, instead of constantly looking for that one punch. With the blazing handspeed and one-punch knockout power he himself has, he may just get it, though Nishioka himself is proven after having beaten veteran former champ and hall of famer Rafael Marquez one year ago. Expect a high-speed chess match with plenty of thunder behind the punches.

Brandon Rios was looking like the next offensive superstar in the sport, until weight-cutting problems and a tricky stylistic challenge in Cuban Richard Abril took off much if his perceive luster in what many called a bad decision in favor of Rios. Now that he's moved up a division, he's ready to go back to the effective bullying style he used to knock out so many of his opponents. His opponent, unbeaten Mike Alvarado, would be more than happy to oblige in a war, as evidenced by the performances against his two previous opponents. As the saying goes, "there will be blood."

Since boxing has had a bit of a dry spell in terms of quality fights, don't miss out on this gem of a card!

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RedSonRising

13th October 2012, 22:45

The fighter's have weighed in! Everybody's on point.

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RedSonRising

16th October 2012, 00:18

As expected, Donaire-Nishioka was a high-speed chess match in which Nonito got the better of his man, and Rios-Alvarado was absolute WAR! Best back-and-forth action fight I've seen in a long time. For anyone that missed it, HBO is re-airing the fights tonight at 11:30pm Eastern time!

(For anyone who wants to watch the fights but doesn't have access to a TV network, just ask me and I'll get you a way to watch online)

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RedSonRising

3rd November 2012, 20:30

Where my English fans at?! There's only one Ricky Hatton, and he's lookin sharp for next week's comeback!

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RedSonRising

9th November 2012, 04:34

Sadly, boxing fans around the world are saying goodbye to one of the most accomplished and nurturing figures in boxing history, legendary trainer and commentator Emmanuel Steward. It really won't be the same without him. RIP.

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RedSonRising

10th November 2012, 04:10

Lots of great quality fights on tomorrow!

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RedSonRising

17th November 2012, 19:43

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RedSonRising

24th November 2012, 21:11

Ricky Hatton is back tonight folks!

Watch as he takes on the tall and long Vyacheslav Senchenko!

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Also on tonight is a clash between multi-weight champion Robert "The Ghost" Guerrero and the fast, hard-hitting Andre Berto. Both men are striving to climb up the ranks of the top ten and land another big title shot, so both are going to try and make a statement while executing their game-plan, make sure you tune in.

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RedSonRising

1st December 2012, 20:15

Anybody catch the Hatton fight? Sad to see him go, did real well early in the fight but just doesn't have it anymore. Hope he maintains the progress he's made in his life and doesn't go too hard on himself.

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You've got nothing to be ashamed of Ricky, you made us proud!

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Cotto vs. Trout tonight! Future Hall-of-Famer Miguel Cotto is coming off a
competitive loss to undefeated superstar Floyd Mayweather Jr., and looks to become champion again by taking on young undefeated belt-holder Austin Trout. Trout has had to come up the hard way, getting little attention from promoters & TV networks, and looks to have a difficult style that most name fighters have conveniently avoided. Will Cotto's experience and skill be able to overcome the tall, quick, and rangy Southpaw in Trout? He propels himself to the top of the ranks if he can come off of a win, but Cotto is determined to remain relevant and dominant before he exits the sport. Don't miss what's sure to be a competitive match-up.

Check this All-Access documentary from showtime to see what's behind each man before they step into the ring.

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RedSonRising

8th December 2012, 18:17

Tonight is Pacquiao-Marquez 4, what is hopefully a decisive end to a historic rivalry. After 3 exciting, competitive fights and 3 controversial decisions, this fight will determine where each All Time Great stands until the end of their career, and possibly forever in boxing history. Each man is said to have had their best training camp ever, and neither man wants another taste of corruption by the judges; they are going for the knockout, and trained to achieve it. Don't miss what might be the end of an era between two fighters that defined greatness within their generation and added their names to the legendary pairings of our time; Robinson and Lamotta, Duran and Leonard, Ali and Frazier, Barrera and Morales...Pacquiao-Marquez.

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RedSonRising

15th December 2012, 07:25

Ladies and gentleman, Manny Pacquiao had been knocked out cold by his arch-nemesis Juan-Manuel Marquez!

After trading knockdowns and flurries, Juan Manuel Marquez put an end to what he and many fans considered a string of unjust decisions, and took it out of the judges hands by doing what few ever suspected he could. This may have been the most thrilling bout of all of them. I'll upload the fight in it's entirety when I get a chance.

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RedSonRising

15th December 2012, 23:25

Anyone here? Two very exciting fights on tonight. Pound-for-Pound star Nonito Donaire is taking on veteran champion Jorge Arce in a classic Filipino vs Mexico rivalry, and Amir Khan is making his comeback after switching trainers to fight undefeated Mexica-American Carlos Molina. I hope I'm not the only revlefter checking out boxing, these few months have had and will continue to have some very exciting fights.

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RedSonRising

8th March 2013, 02:52

This Saturday night, Bernard Hopkins is looking to become the oldest champion in boxing history....again! I'm going to be there live in Brooklyn as he takes on undefeated Belt-Holder Tavoris Cloud.

Hopkins lost a decision against Chad Dawson some time ago and looked his age, but wasn't dominated and put up a competitive fight. Cloud seems to post less difficult stylistic challenges, but is also a bit more explosive on the offense. Will Hopkins, at 48, surpass his own record?

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RedSonRising

16th March 2013, 22:42

The man has done it again! At 48 years old, Hopkins has broken his own record to become the oldest champion in boxing history in his victory against Tavoris Cloud!

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RedSonRising

13th April 2013, 02:45

Boxing is getting real exciting in the rest of 2013. Two fight-of-the-year candidates that look tough to beat have already happened, and more exciting match-ups are yet to come.

First was the battle between Timothy Bradley and Ruslan Provodnikov. Here's the HBO lead up, undercard, and the full fight! Check it out, incredible display of skill and will from both men.

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Then, the rematch between Mexican-American warriors Brandon Rios and Mike Alvarado:

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Coming up tomorrow night (Saturday), Pound-for-Pound elite world champion Nonito Donaire is taking on Cuban Olympian and former amateur star Guillermo Rigondeaux. Donaire was named the 2012 fighter of the year, and faces one of the most talented boxers to come out of the Cuban system. Dominating in 11 pro fights, Rigondeaux hopes to gain recognition in the pro game by fighting the best in his weight class and using his speed, brilliant skills, and knockout power to topple the Filipino Flash.

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Savant

18th April 2013, 02:35

I heard that Bradley vs Provoniko fight was great! Lol even this youtuber I follow said this fight was similar to Rocky 4 (rocky vs ivan drago fight) lol. I definitely gotta watch this fight.

RedSonRising

20th April 2013, 23:25

I heard that Bradley vs Provoniko fight was great! Lol even this youtuber I follow said this fight was similar to Rocky 4 (rocky vs ivan drago fight) lol. I definitely gotta watch this fight.

Hell yeah! I posted it before, hopefully it hasn't been taken down from youtube.

Some highlights from Donaire-Rigondeaux, which turned out to be an absolute masterclass:

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Tonight is a very important match between Saul "Canelo" Alvarez and Austin "No Doubt" Trout! Canelo is a Mexican Ginger who had a lot of hype surrounding him during his early pro career. He's a very solid boxer-puncher who has come a long way, becoming one of the best in the light-middleweight division, but still lacking a signature win against a prime young champion. Austin Trout is a fighter who never go must recognition, being avoided as a high-risk low-reward fighter, but was given the chance to shine when he defeated future Hall of Famer Miguel Cotto of Puerto Rico.

Trout originally took his championship belt from Alvarez's brother. Can Canelo get revenge or will Trout continue his hot streak and stay champion?

This fight may determine the future of the division and a potential opponent for still-undefeated All-Time-Great Floyd Mayweather Jr. Both men are looking to make a statement and prove their dominance. Somebody's 0 has go to go. Don't miss it!

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RedSonRising

27th April 2013, 18:52

Alvarez unified the Super Middleweight titles in a very close fight! Very impressive demonstration of skills, especially for a 22 year old fighter.

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There's a shitload of quality boxing going on tonight (Saturday). Here are the previews:

Amir Khan vs. Julio Diaz:

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Danny Garcia vs. Zab Judah:

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Sergio Martinez vs. Martin Murray:

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RedSonRising

1st May 2013, 22:42

Some highlights from last weekend's main event:

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RedSonRising

4th May 2013, 03:31

Tomorrow night, the still undefeated Floyd Mayweather Jr. makes his return to the ring against Robert "The Ghost" Guerrero! Floyd hasn't been in the ring since last summer and was in jail for 2 months following his last bout against Miguel Cotto. Meanwhile Guerrero has just come off a career-defining win against Andre Berto, muscling and pummeling him around with his southpaw aggression.

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Check out the family stories and hype surrounding this match-up:

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Deity

4th May 2013, 04:16

I really want to see Mayweather lose, but I doubt it will happen. I'll be rooting for Guerrero and hoping he can Have the best fight of his career, which many are saying he'll need to win.

RedSonRising

18th May 2013, 01:05

I really want to see Mayweather lose, but I doubt it will happen. I'll be rooting for Guerrero and hoping he can Have the best fight of his career, which many are saying he'll need to win.

Mayweather looks like he hasn't aged a day and put on an absolute clinic against Guerrero, who never switched gears and couldn't get anything going against Mayweather's defense.

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Tomorrow night, the future of the 140 division is decided, as Lamont Peterson and Lucas Mathysse square off to determine who will face champion Danny Garcia. Peterson is a fighter who can box as well as slug it out, and this is his second fight since being suspend for very high testosterone ratios, which he claims is due to a medical mistake. Mathysse is a very powerful Argentine who has lost two questionable decisions against championship-level fighters Devon Alexander and Zab Judah, and stopping most of the rest of his opponents by KO. This is one of the best fights that could have been made in boxing this year, don't miss it!

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RedSonRising

22nd May 2013, 06:46

In a thrilling 3rd round knockout, Lucas Mathysse demolished Lamont Peterson in a crafty display of inside fighting tactics and a show of monstrous power! After a slow and relatively even first round, Mathysse dropped Peterson with a left hook set up by an initial straight right to the body in the 2nd, and proceeded to drop him twice more in the next to get the stoppage.

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RedSonRising

26th May 2013, 19:57

Yesterday, Super-Middleweight champion Carl Froch avenged his loss to Danish warrior Mikkel Kessler in a back and forth spectacle in front of his hometown crowd.

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RedSonRising

8th June 2013, 20:46

Tonight, Marcos Maidana and Josesito Lopez go to war. I can't say much more than that. Both of these fighters have been in some of the most thrilling bouts in recent times, have real guts, and uncommon power. Don't miss out.

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RedSonRising

10th June 2013, 05:15

Not only did main event welterweights Marcos Maidana and Josesito Lopez give us a great war that ended in a technical knock out, but on the undercard, top Junior Middleweights Erislandy Lara of Cuba and Mexican Alfredo Angulo gave us a thrilling back-and-forth display of the classic boxer vs puncher match-up!

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Also, on HBO, former Light Heavyweight Champion Chad Dawson dropped his title to the monstrous punching Hatian-Canadian Adonis Stevenson in a dramatic first round KO upset!

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RedSonRising

14th June 2013, 10:05

This Saturday, don't miss power punching southpaw Juan Manuel Lopez try to regain his status atop the 130lb division against rising undefeated star and champion Mikey Garcia!

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RedSonRising

22nd June 2013, 04:42

Garcia won an extremely dominant victory over Lopez, scoring a powerful knockout in the 4th round after having dropped him multiple times and won every prior round.

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Tomorrow night, the elusive and brash Brooklyn native Paulie "The Magic Man" Malignaggi takes on rising star Adrien Broner. Paulie has a notoriously low knockout percentage, but uses great movement behind a cutting jab. Broner also has quick hands, but packs a thunderous punch and prefers to plant his feet and defend himself out of a Mayweather-esque shell guard. There has been lots of hype around this fight and is sure to translate into the ring.

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RedSonRising

25th June 2013, 06:56

I found the Broner fight to be rather boring...he seemed lethargic, more interested in talking than fighting. And I understand he had to chase down Paulie for the majority of the fight, but he fought in spots and it almost cost him the fight.

Paulie threw arm punches and wasn't anywhere close to hurting Broner.

I wasn't a fan of Broner's performance, he's slow of foot to get in range, but I thought the fight itself was fun. Paulie fought a spirited fight and showed how tough he was when Broner started landing big punches. The poor guy hurt his hands early in his career and hardly ever hurts or knocks anyone out. But I thought it was competitive, Paulie peppered Broner with shots, and Broner responded with hard lead rights and left hooks.

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RedSonRising

29th June 2013, 06:41

Tomorrow night, rising Middleweight star Gennady Golovkin takes on the scrappy and persistent English-Irishman Mathew Macklin. Both have a very fan-friendly style and won't likely take a single step back from each other in the ring. Don't miss out, I doubt this one goes the distance.

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RedSonRising

4th July 2013, 03:39

Utter destruction by Golovkin! As durable as Macklin is reputed to be, he could not stand up to Golovkin's power. A new king of the division may be rising.

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RedSonRising

20th July 2013, 20:36

Anybody tuning in to watch this Heavyweight clash in Wembley?

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Ele'ill

23rd July 2013, 22:17

I guess this is kind of extreme content so trigger warning

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RedSonRising

26th July 2013, 04:32

That's a nasty cut there.

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This Saturday features a very entertaining card for a great night of fights:

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RedSonRising

26th July 2013, 20:33

Also fighting tomorrow night is 3-time Chinese Olympian and amateur star Zou Shiming fighting in his second ever professional bout under Hall of Fame trainer Freddie Roach:

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Ele'ill

26th July 2013, 22:08

K1 vs Muay Thai

nobody fucks with Buakaw Por Pramuk and lives

1:02 seals the deal

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Nancahuazu camp fun

16th August 2013, 19:37

K1 vs Muay Thai

nobody fucks with Buakaw Por Pramuk and lives

1:02 seals the deal

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Buakaw is such an icon amongst kick fans. It does suck, however, that he has chosen to sign with K-1 again instead of facing Petro (again). It would have been a massive fight.

RedSonRising

24th August 2013, 07:50

Great card on tomorrow.

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RedSonRising

26th August 2013, 02:00

Huge upset! In just the first round, veteran underdog Jhonny Gonzales knocked out rising pound for pound star Abner Mares, starting it all off with a stunning left hook up top after feinting it to the body!

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He then finished him off with a brutal series of punches that forced the referee to stop the fight:

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Gonzales had Hall of Fame boxing trainer Nacho Beristain in his corner and credited him for the win.

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26th August 2013, 03:32

RedSonRising

28th August 2013, 03:45

Hey, I'm new to RevLeft but as a huge boxing fan this seems like a good place to start!

Gonzalez' knockout of Mares was stunning last night, perfect left hook. I really like Leo Santa Cruz' style as well, his win was impressive.

What's your favourite fighter and fight? All time and/or recently? I have a feeling I'll spend a lot of time in this thread :)

Awesome! Welcome!

Santa Cruz is coming along nicely.

My favorite fighter of all time is Juan Manuel Marquez. All-time, my favorites are him, Roberto Duran, Miguel Cotto, Bernard Hopkins, and Muhammad Ali.

Favorite fight has to be Duran VS Leonard 1, closely followed by Pacquiao-Marquez 2.

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Check out the first episode of "All Access", an inside look into the lives and training camps of Floyd Mayweather Jr. and his biggest current threat, undefeated 23 year old champion Saul "El Canelo" Alvarez.

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RedSonRising

3rd September 2013, 08:52

Check out the second episode of Mayweather VS Canelo: All Access!

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RedSonRising

11th September 2013, 04:47

Episode 3 of All Access: Mayweather VS Canelo is here!

The fight is only 4 days away!

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RedSonRising

13th September 2013, 06:43

Here's the 4th and final episode of All Access.

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Don't miss the biggest boxing event of the year. Canelo Alvarez, while still learning, has a better chance than most, if not all, of Mayweather's last 6 opponents. For Floyd to prevail, he'll have to put all of his tools on display and separate himself from his opponent by reminding us what makes him great after 17 years in the game.

The undercard bout between Lucas Mathysse and Danny Garcia could have been a main event in itself. Two very skilled boxer-punchers with tremendous power squaring off in what is likely to be the fight of the night. Bet on the under for this one comrades.

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RedSonRising

14th September 2013, 18:22

The fights have weighed in and made weight!!!!

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RedSonRising

17th September 2013, 03:32

In an absolutely dominant performance, Mayweather improves his record to 45-0, winning practically every single one of the 12 rounds in his fight against "Canelo" Alvarez!

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RedSonRising

28th September 2013, 19:44

Great card on tonight!

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And right after, don't miss Marquez-Bradley 24/7 to get a look inside the training camps for one of the most anticipating match-ups of the year! Here's the face-off:

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RedSonRising

6th October 2013, 00:15

Sup people! Check out Puerto Rico's top star, veteran multi-weight champion Miguel Cotto in his return bout against rising contender Delvin Rodriguez! Rodriguez is looking to make a name for himself and retire Cotto, who is performing after consecutive losses. Cotto on the other hand has tried to rejuvenate his career and has employed the services of Hall of Fame trainer Freddie Roach.

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RedSonRising

12th October 2013, 17:28

TONIGHT, at 40 years of age, Juan Manuel Marquez hopes to make history by becoming the first Mexican-born fighter to capture a title in a 5th weight division by beating officially unbeaten Timothy Bradley, after Marquez's stunning KO over Manny Pacquiao and Bradley's fight-of-the-year candidate bout against hard-punching Russian Ruslan Provodnikov. Marquez is looking to add to his legacy and take on a different stylistic challenge before possible retirement, rather than face Pacquiao a 5th time, while Bradley is still looking for a marquee win that will gain him permanent respect in the boxing world. There's been a lot of tension in the build-up to this fight, and no doubt it will reveal itself in the ring.

If you are a boxing fan in any capacity, watch this fight.

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RedSonRising

19th October 2013, 20:17

In a tense chess match, Bradley gets a split decision victory over Juan Manuel Marquez:

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RedSonRising

25th October 2013, 19:19

Great triple header on tonight. Bernard Hopkins, oldest champion in boxing history and the man at Light Heavyweight, takes on his mandatory challenger Karo Murat, and looks to try an end his 9 year knockout drought. Meanwhile, top Middleweight Peter "Kid Chocolate" Quillin takes on tough world class contender Gabriel Rosado. Also, heavyweight hopeful and knockout artist Deontay Wilder is also set to fight. Should be a quality night of fights.

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the debater

7th November 2013, 04:11

I don't really follow boxing that much, but apparently Gennady Golovkin is mixed-race. I looked up a thread on Stormfront where they were singing GGG's praises, thinking he was white. :thumbup1:

RedSonRising

9th November 2013, 21:03

I'm late on the updates guys, sorry. Here are highlights from Bernard Hopkins's latest victory, which crowned him the oldest fighter in history to successfully defend his world title, along with the undercard results.

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I don't really follow boxing that much, but apparently Gennady Golovkin is mixed-race. I looked up a thread on Stormfront where they were singing GGG's praises, thinking he was white. :thumbup1:

Golovkin is from Kazakhstan, so he has a mix of what we consider typical oriental and western European features.

I got to see him fight last week, very good performance by GGG against a game contender in the equally hard-punching Curtis Stevens!

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Tonight, HBO has an exciting triple-header on. Undefeated rising star and Featherweight Champion Mikey Garcia is moving up in weight to try and capture a Super-Featherweight title against champion Rocky Martinez, and Nonito Donaire (coming off a one-sided loss against Cuban amateur star Guillermo Rigondeaux) looks to get back on course to pound-for-pound recognition as he takes on a formerly vanquished foe who granted him his breakthrough to begin with, Armenian Vic Darchinyan, in a grudge match. Very good fight between two top middleweight former-Olympians as well, Demetrius Andrade VS Vanes Martiroyan.

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After that, don't miss the HBO Series 24/7: Pacquiao-Rios, as the cameras take a look into the training camps of All Time Great and Global Icon Manny Pacquiao as he looks to reestablish himself following his sensational knockout loss to longtime rival Juan Manuel Marquez against blood-and-guts Mexican-American Brandon Rios.

Here's the face-off between the two.

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RedSonRising

25th November 2013, 10:42

This past Saturday, superstar Manny Pacquiao made an impressive comeback against the tough former-champion Brandon Rios, putting on an exhibition of skill and athletic ability that proves his career is far from over!

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RedSonRising

30th November 2013, 21:53

Tonight, Light-Heavyweight champion and knockout artist Adonis Stevenson takes on Tony Bellew, while Sergey Kovalev takes on Ismayl Sillakh. Both Stevenson and Kovalev are extremely heavy-handed (but also skilled) punchers who have been cleaning out the division on a path to the top, wanting to challenge the likes of Bernard Hopkins, and perhaps each other.

Plus, Pacquiao-Rios is free on replay. Don't miss it.

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RedSonRising

7th December 2013, 20:45

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14th December 2013, 21:51

Huge fight on tonight folks!

Undefeated rising star Adrien Broner, who has claimed he is destined to take over Floyd Mayweather's role as king of the sport, is taking on his toughest test yet, monstrous puncher from rural Argentina Marcos Maidana. Broner has many haters as well as fans, and many are tuning in to see him knocked out, but will Broner live up to his hype and dominate a fighter as experienced and dangerous as Maidana, or prove his haters right? This is one of the most anticipated match-ups of the year, and is sure to have an explosive ending.

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"I know he is the favorite. But I don't care. I've crossed paths with lions. He still hasn't fought with men. He hasn't beat anyone yet to be a star. The cow has messed with the bull."

Adrien Broner

"I really don't get the credit that I deserve. I gotta convince the world that I am what everybody say I am. I know after this fight that I'm going to another level."

RedSonRising

22nd December 2013, 03:54

In a thrilling upset, Marcos Maidana defeats Adrien Broner after mauling and repeatedly dropping the cocky young champion!

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the debater

22nd December 2013, 21:43

BIXX

22nd December 2013, 21:56

After doing a little boxing myself, I have much more appreciation for the sport. It's tougher than it looks, for sure.

RedSonRising

9th February 2014, 01:31

Asking you personally RedSonRising, what is your personal opinion of up-and-coming heavyweight boxer Deontay Wilder? I've heard there's a lot of excitement around him, but I have to wonder whether that's simply because he's American. To be fair, I've heard good things about Wilder from David Haye and Wladimir Klitschko, both of whom were sparring partners of Wilder. I'm not at all a boxing expert, but being from America, (the greatest country in the world of course :laugh:) I have to see how Wilder turns out.

Wilder is one of those guys people think will be the next big thing. Personally I think he's technically undeveloped, but he is improving and he does have incredible power in that right hand. His next opponent Malik Scott is no joke, we'll see how he does.

After doing a little boxing myself, I have much more appreciation for the sport. It's tougher than it looks, for sure.

Awesome man, did you just start? What's your weight/style? Follow the sport at all?

BIXX

9th February 2014, 01:54

Awesome man, did you just start? What's your weight/style? Follow the sport at all?

Yeah, pretty recently (coming up on 2 months now). I actually do multiple things (boxing, kickboxing, and jiu-jitsu). Weight is 170. I still haven't developed much of a style but I'm prolly gonna be doing MMA competitions once I'm better.

RedSonRising

9th February 2014, 09:31

Yeah, pretty recently (coming up on 2 months now). I actually do multiple things (boxing, kickboxing, and jiu-jitsu). Weight is 170. I still haven't developed much of a style but I'm prolly gonna be doing MMA competitions once I'm better.

Awesome man, best of luck with that.

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Now that 2013 has come to a close, both Showtime and HBO-the leading broadcasting networks with respect to boxing-have made the best moments of the year available to fight fans.

Showtime has released an episode reviewing their most exciting fights and events, in what was their most memorable year in history.

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HBO has chosen to take their very best fights of the year, and make them available online to the public. You can watch those in HD here:

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I have to say, this year stood out as one of the most exciting in recent times. So many good match-ups, so many contests between elites within their division, so many absolute wars. It will be hard to top.

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13th February 2014, 05:26

Melson had indicated afterwards that he had hurt his right arm during the fight which affected his output.

RedSonRising

18th February 2014, 07:18

Melson had indicated afterwards that he had hurt his right arm during the fight which affected his output.

Sorry, who?