The New Marxist Revolutionary Party

[Marxist_machine]

A small party but its right on considering all of their views. Check it out, maybe even join up. :D... http://www.geocities.com/marxist_machine/

[Saint-Just]

Its difficult to get a good idea of their views on any issues besides the environment and civil rights. Political groups often say little about their actualy ideological views as they will appeal to a broader range of people if they don't.

The entire content of the site is very liberal, but this suggests something more sinister:

Drug dealers should be education and released back into society with a job and an opportunity provided for them before they leave. Violent drug dealers would be dealt with differently.

[elijahcraig]

Machine, did you start this party?

[Marxist_machine]

No, but I am a member, I decided to post here under the url link of the site, I have been checking out che-lives for quite a while. Mao, the party gives its views on communist doctrine as well. I'm not sure what exactly you are looking for, but constructive critisism is always welcome. I think the violent drug dealers quote was meant to mean that they would undergoe a much more rigorous rehabilitation than the non-violent ones but still be given an opportunity. Thanks.

[Dr. Rosenpenis]

you guys are crazy!!
i read some of your platform, and you guys advocate prostitution!!


There are many women out there who are unable to find themselves wanting to do anything else, and really...if you're good at something, why not make money off it?

they're cauvinists too :angry:
not only are they chauvinists, they're also capitalists
why not make money off it?

[elijahcraig]

I didn't catch that part.

[redstar2000]

I read the whole platform and tried to read their opinions on "Marxist dogma"...Yahoo says the page doesn't exist.

Truth to say, I didn't see much evidence of revolution or Marxism...I don't think you would need a revolution (at least in principle) to enact the kinds of changes they appear to want.

I turned up a few oddities...

However, women need to be discouraged form the course of abortion unless it is necessary.

Meat eating should be allowed but discouraged...

The church influences its own agenda on laws, condemning anything against the bible. Its time to crush these oppressive organizations and allow people to once again worship FREELY!

My impression is that this is an "internet party" set up by some folks who really don't know very much about this communist stuff...they mean well, no doubt, but they need to do a lot more thinking...and reading.

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[Dr. Rosenpenis]

however, they do have good points on drug use. advocating any type of worship is extremely un-marxist, as it contradicts the basic principles of materialism. these guys are lame.

[Dr. Rosenpenis]

they seem to be trying to appease to their bourgeois society and its oppressive mindset

[Elect Marx]

How about this?
"What we fail to understand why something that's usually done behind closed doors, makes the people involved VERY happy (at least momentarily), and usually harms NOBODY is such a BIG concern. In some ways, prostitution is very helpful...It eases the urge in some of the people that would probably go out and commit atrocities against women and little girls, and in some cases probably keeps them from doing it."
This article is just sad. Is the veiw of this auther that: atrocities should be commited against women forced to work in prostitution? They have no one in this system to protect them and are being used by profiteering capitalists. How does this benefit anyone?

[elijahcraig]

Yes, maybe we should allow pedophiles to fuck little boys, IF they pay the parent. They would be far less likely to go out and rape a little boy. Wonder why? :lol:

[Marxist_machine]

The reason the party appears to "appease" the government is based on two reason 1) The wish to get more people to get involved and thus create more revolutionary minds or 2)Your lack of reading the entire site. The communist theory list has been fixed. The new link is http://www.geocities.com/marxist_machine/c.../communistdogma (http://www.geocities.com/marxist_machine/communistdogma) . As for the party's stance on prostitution, that is an obscure and I admit strange but very small part of the party platform and I will ask it be reviewed and possibly removed. Thanks comrades!

[Marxist_machine]

We are accepting PRIVATE worship. Are you telling me that you want to condemn or ban people who pray or worship in their home. I do believe even private religion is very bad for the worker but banning it would create an uproar. The religion page also contains links to atheism, and ethical arguments against religion.

[redstar2000]

I question very strongly the support of "violent 60s revolutionaries" like the Weather Underground.

For one thing, they were not very revolutionary...except in the eyes of the bourgeois media. Closer to 19th century nihilism than anything else.

As I indicated, this whole venture does not look very well thought-out...in a whole bunch of ways.

I was encouraged to see, however, that they do not consider themselves a Leninist party...which implies a real chance of improvement.

I have a hunch there may well be many small groups like this...it's certainly possible that they may yet coalesce into a real revolutionary movement of real communists.

Stranger things have happened.

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[elijahcraig]

The Weather Underground was basically just middle class white kids attempting to be revolutionaries. They had absolutely NO connection with the working class.

[Marxist_machine]

Thanks for the input. As stated we are a new party and are very open to change. We will consider the suggestions you have given us and let you know if changes are made. We plan to add opinions on topics such as the role of communism in the middle east crisis.

[Dr. Rosenpenis]

you should also amend the part where it talks about religion. the conclusion made on religion is that people should be free to worship without the burden of organized religious institutions. whether or not you plan to allow people to believe in "god", the materialist conclusion of religion is not what you have you have stated.

[Marxist_machine]

We have begun to change the site already but the basic ideas remain. Check out some of the new content.

[Elect Marx]

In the Religion section
"The church influences its own agenda on laws, condemning anything against the bible."
I find this to be off point. Churches generally do not specifically defend the text of the bible but often defend practices that further an agenda. The laws promoted by organized religions are more influenced by political stances than any religious devotion. This is the biggest problem I see: Churches functioning as political propagation. Because of their oppressive nature, religious structures that act to further a theocratic society, should be dismantled. This denies the use of power that held by churches over people's lives, allowing members to see through dogmatic manipulation.

[Scottish_Militant]

"The New Marxist Revolutionary Party"

oh great....another one

join the queue comrade :rolleyes:

what was it Marx said again "workers of the world unite"

I think something got lost in the translation....