Nazi Holocaust deniers

[La Comédie Noire]

Why do Neo Nazis and Fascists deny the holocaust? Isn't that the logical conclusion of all their policies? Isn't that what they want to do?

[ComradeOm]

It tends to put off potential supporters when you support a policy that Western society almost universally regards as the single most heinous act of the past century. Genocide is the logical extension of Nazism but the Holocaust as an historical event has zero appeal outside of the most invested neo-Nazi circles

[hatzel]

Add to that the fact that it invites the possibility of a bit of 'those lying Jewish bastards invented this whole thing to trick us!' Yeah, double profit there...that being a typical thing for Nazis to say about pretty much anything, some kind of conspiracy theory where the Jews are to blame...

[mikelepore]

Some of the holocaust deniers are just lying because they believe in mass murder and don't want to say so publicly. They want to wear disguises that are considered respectible, like the Ku Klux Klan getting themselves photographed waving the American flag and praying to Jesus.

But some of them believe that the post-war inspectors counted the same dead bodies over and over again, so that hundreds of people being killed got misreported as millions. Then they argue that hundreds of people being killed is consistent with some penalties for crimes, in addition to victims of disease and famine.

[Rafiq]

Add to that the fact that it invites the possibility of a bit of 'those lying Jewish bastards invented this whole thing to trick us!' Yeah, double profit there...that being a typical thing for Nazis to say about pretty much anything, some kind of conspiracy theory where the Jews are to blame...

Yeah some Nazi's said Wikileaks is a Jewish conspiracy to keep attention away from Israel :laugh:

[hatzel]

Yeah some Nazi's said Wikileaks is a Jewish conspiracy to keep attention away from Israel :laugh:

Some Turkish deputy prime ministers say something along those lines, too...and I've outlined elsewhere that I don't think it's that ludicrous a suggestion. But that's the subject of a whole other thread, rather than this one...:rolleyes:

[PoliticalNightmare]

Why do Neo Nazis and Fascists deny the holocaust? Isn't that the logical conclusion of all their policies? Isn't that what they want to do?

Neo Nazis, perhaps but not necessarily fascists. Fascism is more of an ideology based upon strong nationalism (not necessarily racism), state-controlled capitalism, "class collaboration" ("an uneasy but effective collaboration between national militants and traditional elites" - I believe Mussolini said this in "The Ideology of Fascism" but I can't be bothered to dig up the exact quote - in practice though, the traditional elites come out on top), state totalitarianism (that is strong state involvement in every day life with tough attitudes towards crime, rigorous defense of authority and actual state suppression of trade unions and "rebellious attitudes") and supposed syndicalism which the laissez-faire tend to mistake for socialism but in reality all trade unionism is suppressed by the state. There have been cases of welfare state capitalism with fascism though, to be fair (for instance Mussolini housed for a large number of those in poverty in Rome at one point) but I think that the ugly side of capitalism (though clearly not laissez-faire capitalism) shines out the most with fascism. I don't know why they would particularly try to deny the holocaust though I don't think a large proportion of them would. Nazism was essentially racist fascism.

As far as Neo Nazis saying the holocaust never exist, well I think its just there way of saying that "those dirty jews are always winging over nothing". Despicable attitude, though and I am not interested in any of there arguments about why the holocaust did not exist. Its clearly in their interests to prove that it didn't though, so they can give rebirth to Nazi Germany and incorporate their disgusting policies about "supreme biological races". This is easier to do, if they can make the public think that "Hey guys, Nazi Germany wasn't that bad".

[Rafiq]

Some Turkish deputy prime ministers say something along those lines, too...and I've outlined elsewhere that I don't think it's that ludicrous a suggestion. But that's the subject of a whole other thread, rather than this one...:rolleyes:

That's completely ridiculous.

What is their that needed to be leaked about Israel?

Everyone already knows Israel's crimes. Their are not secrets anymore.

It is completely stupid think Julian Assange is some Mossad agent.

That would explain him being put in jail for breaking his condom? I'm sure the mossad isn't that stupid.

If he was with the Mossad, I think the united states would have known.

[Rafiq]

Plus, their are leaks targeting Israel's mossad too.