rusian nazi hooligans riot

[Sasha]

Russian football fans run riot in Moscow protest
(AFP) – 1 hour ago
MOSCOW — Russian football fans and ultranationalists ran riot in the centre of Moscow on Saturday, when a demonstration against the death of a fan descended into violence that left 13 people hospitalised.
Thousands of fans, supported by members of far-right groups, gathered in Manezhnaya Square near the Kremlin for the unauthorised protest, with some shouting slogans such as "Russia for Russians" and performing Nazi salutes, according to an AFP photographer.
They were protesting the death of Yegor Sviridov, a Spartak Moscow fan who was shot in the head last Saturday during a fight with men from the Russian Caucasus.
The incident has exposed the close links between Russian extremists and football supporters, and is a major embarrassment for the country so soon after it won the right to host the FIFA World Cup in 2018.
As many as 5,000 people, many wearing hoods and scarves to cover their faces, descended on the square, and fighting quickly broke out when protestors threw flares and objects at anti-riot police.
Several dozen supporters suffered injuries as they fought with police, while demonstrators also violently attacked at least five men of Caucasus origin, who were seen with bleeding faces.
A total of 65 people were arrested, according to police.
"Thirteen people including police officers have been hospitalised," said Interior Minister Rashid Nurgaliyev, who blamed the violence on "left-wing extremists".
Protestors beat up a cameraman of state news agency RIA Novosti and smashed his camera.
Security was reinforced in the Moscow metro system after demonstrators smashed a number of barriers, Russian news agencies reported.
"If the authorities don't change the policy on immigration, there will be a lot of bloodshed," said one demonstrator, whose face was hidden behind a black mask.
Moscow police chief Vladimir Kolokoltsev said he had been to the square to talk with demonstrators, and confirmed that police had kept force to a minimum.
This provoked criticism from rights activists, who say police rarely show such restraint when dealing with opposition protests.
The suspect in Sviridov's shooting, Aslan Cherkesov, who is from the Caucasus republic of Kabardino-Balkaria, is under arrest and claimed he was acting in self defence.
The violence followed a protest on Tuesday evening in which around 1,000 people blocked a Moscow highway and shouted racist slogans.
Meanwhile in Saint Petersburg, around 1,500 supporters gathered for a similar unauthorised protest.
Police arrested about 60 people when fans broke through a police cordon and stopped traffic on several major roads.
Spartak Moscow is one of the top Russian premiership sides and it has an impassioned support base in the capital.
As Russia prepares to host the 2018 World Cup, its football fans -- some of whom model themselves on British hooligans, wearing the same fashion labels and calling themselves "firms" -- will be closely watched by the authorities.
In July another Spartak fan, telejournalist Yury Volkov, was stabbed to death in a fight with men from the Russian Caucasus in a central Moscow park. A Chechen man has been charged with the crime.
The killing prompted fans to brandish banners with Volkov's name at matches and to hold several public protests.
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One dead, 29 hospitalized as football fans clash with police in Moscow - source (http://en.rian.ru/russia/20101211/161735767.html)

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One dead, 29 hospitalized as football fans clash with police in Moscow

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The unsanctioned demonstration of football fans protesting the death of Spartak Moscow supporter Yegor Sviridov left at least one person dead and 29 injured, a police source said.
"According to preliminary data, one person injured at the unsanctioned demonstration has died. The police are checking this information," the source told RIA Novosti.
However, the Moscow interior affairs department did not confirm this report.
The source also said 29 people were hospitalized with injuries adding that ambulance cars remained on duty on Moscow streets.
Some 5,000 young people, mainly football fans and members of nationalist organizations, protesting Sviridov's death gathered on central Moscow's Manezh Square. About 2,000 protestors gathered in St. Petersburg. They ignored police demands to disperse and clashes broke out.
The police detained 65 football fans in Moscow and 60 in St. Petersburg.
Russian Interior Minister Rashid Nurgaliyev said that the clashes were provoked by nationalists who joined the demonstration of football fans.
The minister also said that "nobody will avoid responsibility" for the death of Sviridov reiterating the pledge of Moscow police chief Vladimir Kolokoltsev who promised a thorough investigation of this tragic accident during negotiations with football fans.
Kolokoltsev also said that policemen did not use weapons on the Manezh Square despite a threat to their lives.
According to Nurgaliyev, several policemen were hospitalized after the demonstration.
Sviridov, 28, was killed earlier this week during a mass brawl between football fans and internal migrants from the North Caucasus in north Moscow.
Police have already detained a man suspected of shooting him four times with a gun firing rubber bullets and two other migrants suspected of participating in the brawl.
MOSCOW, December 11 (RIA Novosti)


source: http://en.rian.ru/russia/20101211/161735767.html

[Kiev Communard]

Actually the OMON was quite lenient to these bastards - after all, they are Russian patriots and love Putin, don't they :cursing:?

If Russian left even attempted some moderate kind of direct action, they would be most likely arrested en masse and sentenced to several years of hard labour, while these Nazis are "released". This shows full well the nature of current Russian state!

[IndependentCitizen]

I really worry about the FIFA 2018 for the legitimate football lovers, with this level of violence and amount of nazis in Russia, FIFA 2018 will be like a fat kid in a chocolate shop for these ****s.

[Manic Impressive]

I heard that some of them call themselves Neo-Bolsheviks can anyone confirm or refute that?

[Palingenisis]

I heard that some of them call themselves Neo-Bolsheviks can anyone confirm or refute that?

National Bolsheviks or NazBhols....There was a National Bolshevik Party but it split between the racists and the anti-Putin middle class rebels.

[Manic Impressive]

It's such a shame you would have thought the legacy of the soviet union would have actually made a difference. I believe it was under Stalin that they introduced scholarships for African students to come there to study at university and their support for South Africa and anti-apartheid was immense. Where did it all go wrong??? (rhetorical question)

[4 Leaf Clover]

more of nazi scum

http://varlamov.me/img/fanati_manej/23.jpg

[Palingenisis]

It's such a shame you would have thought the legacy of the soviet union would have actually made a difference. I believe it was under Stalin that they introduced scholarships for African students to come there to study at university and their support for South Africa and anti-apartheid was immense. Where did it all go wrong??? (rhetorical question)

The degeneration started during the Great Patriotic War when Russian national myths were revived and along with that came "Great Russian" chauvinism...This process got much worse after the Kosygin reforms started the re-introduction of Capitalism in 1965.

[9]

the Kosygin reforms started the re-introduction of Capitalism in 1965.

so basically, in your mind, it's possible to change the mode of production through 'introducing reforms'. i guess that vindicates reformism then, doesn't it?
its a bit off topic, though.

[Palingenisis]

so basically, in your mind, it's possible to change the mode of production through 'introducing reforms'. i guess that vindicates reformism then, doesn't it?
its a bit off topic, though.

No because there was a coup and than capitalism began to be restored.

[gorillafuck]

so basically, in your mind, it's possible to change the mode of production through 'introducing reforms'. i guess that vindicates reformism then, doesn't it?
its a bit off topic, though.
State capitalist theorists believe that the Soviet Union was at one point a workers state but then stopped being one, wouldn't that vindicate reformism just as much?

I'd definitely say reforms can create capitalism, look at China. But it didn't happen in the USSR.


No because there was a coup and than capitalism began to be restored.
There was not a coup in the Soviet Union (I have no idea where you got that idea), it remained a corrupt and degenerate workers state type government throughout it's existence after Lenin.

[Red Commissar]

Are there any groups in Russia currently that operate in the same vein of anti-fascism that is seen in other countries? It just seems sad that this many were able to congregate with out any response beyond what the police brought down.

[gorillafuck]

How do socialists respond to the nazis?

[Red Commissar]

How do socialists respond to the nazis?

Well, my question was if there is any antifas in Russia. You know, this being an antifa forum and all, I was hoping for some discussion on that rather than what ever tangent this thread was going off on.

[gorillafuck]

Well, my question was if there is any antifas in Russia. You know, this being an antifa forum and all, I was hoping for some discussion on that rather than what ever tangent this thread was going off on.
I don't know why you apparently took offense to what I asked. I wasn't even directing that at you.

[Red Commissar]

I don't know why you apparently took offense to what I asked. I wasn't even directing that at you.

I'm sorry then, I took it a sarcastic response.

[gorillafuck]

Haha, I don't see how. But fair enough.

[9]

State capitalist theorists believe that the Soviet Union was at one point a workers state but then stopped being one, wouldn't that vindicate reformism just as much?
only if it was claimed that the 'worker's state' ceased to be a 'worker's state' through the introduction of reforms rather than as a result of a counterrevolution.


I'd definitely say reforms can create capitalism, look at China.what about china?

[Dire Helix]

After the clashes with OMON in the centre of Moscow, nazis organized pogroms in the subway. Passengers of non-slavic appearance were dragged out of carriages and beaten. The police reportedly didn`t do much to stop them.

http://i596.photobucket.com/albums/tt45/magidd/75.jpg?t=1292109686


How do socialists respond to the nazis?

Russia is a land of far right sentiment. Communists and anarchists can`t match up to nazis in terms of sheers numbers nor do they have a de facto public support on their side(unlike the latter).

[bailey_187]

The degeneration started during the Great Patriotic War when Russian national myths were revived and along with that came "Great Russian" chauvinism...This process got much worse after the Kosygin reforms started the re-introduction of Capitalism in 1965.

how exactly?

[bailey_187]

It's such a shame you would have thought the legacy of the soviet union would have actually made a difference. I believe it was under Stalin that they introduced scholarships for African students to come there to study at university and their support for South Africa and anti-apartheid was immense. Where did it all go wrong??? (rhetorical question)

Also, i remember reading in Harry Haywood's autobiography Black Bolshevik, about an incident when him and other black American Communists studying in the USSR in the 1920s were on public transport (a bus? i forgot) and a drunk Russian got on and called them "black devils". The other Russian passengers on the bus responded by detaining the man and forcing the public transport driver to take him to the local authorities, and apoligised to Harry Haywood and the other black Americans there.

How different to the scenes in that picture of Russian public transport below, 90 years later.

[IndependentCitizen]

Also, i remember reading in Harry Haywood's autobiography Black Bolshevik, about an incident when him and other black American Communists studying in the USSR in the 1920s were on public transport (a bus? i forgot) and a drunk Russian got on and called them "black devils". The other Russian passengers on the bus responded by detaining the man and forcing the public transport driver to take him to the local authorities, and apoligised to Harry Haywood and the other black Americans there.

How different to the scenes in that picture of Russian public transport below, 90 years later.

Capitalism is a poison, it's a shame that Russia has ended up this way. But, I suppose it gives us more ammo to use against capitalism. It creates racism, and the divide of the working class.

[revolution inaction]

State capitalist theorists believe that the Soviet Union was at one point a workers state but then stopped being one, wouldn't that vindicate reformism just as much?


i'm not sure if i understand what you are saying, but most anarchists consider the ussr to have been state capitalist and never socialist.

[Os Cangaceiros]

Well, my question was if there is any antifas in Russia. You know, this being an antifa forum and all, I was hoping for some discussion on that rather than what ever tangent this thread was going off on.

There are, but as a previous poster mentioned they're not nearly as powerful as the far right.

I remember years back someone on this forum asking what the Russian antifascists were planning in response to the growing far right presence in their country, and someone else replied their own funerals, if they were proactive.

[gorillafuck]

only if it was claimed that the 'worker's state' ceased to be a 'worker's state' through the introduction of reforms rather than as a result of a counterrevolution.
Stalin taking power was not a counterrevolution that overthrew the soviet state.


what about china?
It is capitalist, as shown by it's privately owned market economy.

[Red Commissar]

After the clashes with OMON in the centre of Moscow, nazis organized pogroms in the subway. Passengers of non-slavic appearance were dragged out of carriages and beaten. The police reportedly didn`t do much to stop them.

http://i596.photobucket.com/albums/tt45/magidd/75.jpg?t=1292109686


Is there an estimate to how many people were assaulted?

[Stand Your Ground]

After the clashes with OMON in the centre of Moscow, nazis organized pogroms in the subway. Passengers of non-slavic appearance were dragged out of carriages and beaten. The police reportedly didn`t do much to stop them.

http://i596.photobucket.com/albums/tt45/magidd/75.jpg?t=1292109686



Russia is a land of far right sentiment. Communists and anarchists can`t match up to nazis in terms of sheers numbers nor do they have a de facto public support on their side(unlike the latter).
I hope I don't get in trouble for saying this, but it's the truth..

When the fuck is the backlash going to begin against these fucks? When will people take up arms against them? It's time for fascist blood to fill the sewers. :cursing:

[IronEastBloc]

Honestly, I don't think that racism is the biggest issue in Russia...I think wanton violence and bloodlust is. people of color unfortunately get picked on and beaten and killed because they stick out like a sore thumb; Nationalists are cowards and target people in single numbers because that's the only way they can win. However, the vast majority of people targeted and killed by the Nationalists are still Russians who don't sympathize with their cause--you always hear about punk rock fans, United Russia voters (which is just about everyone) CPRF voters and youth who don't look like skinheads getting targeted.

So that's why I say racism isn't the biggest issue because about three weeks ago, these pussies attacked a rock concert that had nobody of color really, and beaten to death a 14 year old girl simply because she was there standing in their way. racism is still an enormous issue. but I think it gets the bulk of media attention because these killings are especially horrifying...yet you must remember, Russia is in the top 10 countries on earth in terms of murder rate, and very few of these murders are ethnically non-Russian. people there are just really really violent.

[Dire Helix]

Is there an estimate to how many people were assaulted? I haven`t seen any concrete information as to how many people were attacked underground, but on the streets the raging crowd of nationalists assaulted a group of North Caucasian youth. Here`s a couple of pictures:

http://varlamov.me/img/fanati_manej/29.jpg

http://varlamov.me/img/fanati_manej/33.jpg

Also, on Sunday evening a man of Asian appearance(reportedly a Kyrgyz) was knifed to death by a group of 15 football hooligans near one of Moscow`s metro stations.

[Agnapostate]

I'm not understanding the role of neo-Nazi elements in Russian ethnonationalism, since if the earlier statement about Russian ethnonationalism increasing after the Great Patriotic War is true, it seems obvious that it would be in opposition to Nazism. If there are Russian neo-Nazis, are they aware of the Nazi regime's plans for Slavs outlined in Generalplan Ost, the fulfillment of the historical Drang nach Osten doctrine that the government wished to use to create "lebensraum" for the "Herrenvolk"? Do they have serious or concrete ideas about actual racial inferiority of Chechnyans or other ethnic populations prone to adherence to Islam in Russia?

[Sasha]

your confussing the chain of events here,
anywhere you put hyper-nationalism, xenophobia and an extreme violence fetish together sooner or later someone starts sieg heiling. only after that, the smartest of the knuckleheads will decide he is an intelectual idealoge and will try too make up something that resembles an suposedly sense making ideaoligy

[Antifa94]

these fuckers should be shot. Two people have died already, it's a tragedy- it really must feel like Berlin 1933 in Moscow right now

[Struggle]

Is it just me or did that reporter repeat herself all too many times?

[Marxach-Léinínach]

There was not a coup in the Soviet Union (I have no idea where you got that idea)

Yes there was. The coup against Beria that brought Khrushchov to power

[Os Cangaceiros]

If there are Russian neo-Nazis, are they aware of the Nazi regime's plans for Slavs outlined in Generalplan Ost, the fulfillment of the historical Drang nach Osten doctrine that the government wished to use to create "lebensraum" for the "Herrenvolk"?

No one said that it had to makes sense.

http://img.timeinc.net/time/europe/magazine/2004/0809/nasty.jpg

^Russian neo-nazi member from St. Petersburg

[An archist]

And there's a backlash:

http://www.euronews.net/2010/12/15/mass-arrests-in-moscow-over-ethnic-riots/

[Sasha]

Typical, so a thousand nazis/nationalist can run mayhem killing immigrants and the cops get praised for their restraint, but when those immigrants then want to stand up its "round up the darkies"?
Sick country.

[PassTheBeer]

more of nazi scum

http://varlamov.me/img/fanati_manej/23.jpg

its a army :mellow:

[PassTheBeer]

I'm not understanding the role of neo-Nazi elements in Russian ethnonationalism, since if the earlier statement about Russian ethnonationalism increasing after the Great Patriotic War is true, it seems obvious that it would be in opposition to Nazism. If there are Russian neo-Nazis, are they aware of the Nazi regime's plans for Slavs outlined in Generalplan Ost, the fulfillment of the historical Drang nach Osten doctrine that the government wished to use to create "lebensraum" for the "Herrenvolk"? Do they have serious or concrete ideas about actual racial inferiority of Chechnyans or other ethnic populations prone to adherence to Islam in Russia?

Russians use Hitler as a symbol. People need a hero. They don't agree with some of the elements of Nazism but they like the idea of a nation-state, militarism etc. Also, a big reason why they like Hitler is anti-communism. Russian NS respect the fallen red army soldiers as most of them were just simple men. But they do like ROA a lot. In fact, we can view todays Russian nazis as ROA members. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_Liberation_Army

...without the rebellion at the end

I do not support violence but I do support their anti-immigration goals. I believe that multiculturalism is bad. But never-mind that. I hope I made the concept of a Russian NS a little more clear. There are many YT videos about that subject.

With no doubt, the extreme right in Russia is rising at a alarming level. Check out the vid...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VrQ0RX2UTuo

(and yes, the song is on Swedish :) )

[PassTheBeer]

Anyway... After seeing all these Russian Nazis, I wonder.. How's the antifa situation in Russia , how well are they organized ?

[revolution inaction]

Russians use Hitler as a symbol. People need a hero. They don't agree with some of the elements of Nazism but they like the idea of a nation-state, militarism etc. Also, a big reason why they like Hitler is anti-communism. Russian NS respect the fallen red army soldiers as most of them were just simple men. But they do like ROA a lot. In fact, we can view todays Russian nazis as ROA members. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_Liberation_Army

...without the rebellion at the end

I do not support violence but I do support their anti-immigration goals. I believe that multiculturalism is bad. But never-mind that. I hope I made the concept of a Russian NS a little more clear. There are many YT videos about that subject.

With no doubt, the extreme right in Russia is rising at a alarming level. Check out the vid...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VrQ0RX2UTuo

(and yes, the song is on Swedish :) )

your against immigration? and when you say multiculturalism is bad what do you mean by multiculturalism? and why don't you like it?

[Sasha]

You better ask him in OI, I just restricted him over this remark.

[Winterhammer]

Search in youtube exactly for: Red and anarhist skinhead Russia

Redskin comrades fighting against the scum :cool:

[Stranger Than Paradise]

Up to 1,000 people were arrested in Moscow today as nationalist youths rampaged throughout the city for the second time this week, shouting racist slogans and calling for the death of immigrants.

The unrest, four days after 5,000 rioters wrought carnage outside the Kremlin walls, upended the city as night descended. Riot police rode through Moscow in army trucks and took up positions at key railway stations and public squares, hoping to prevent the ethnic clashes that left dozens of men from the Caucasus and central Asia injured at the weekend.

About 30 people were reportedly injured, with five taken to hospital. Police confiscated airguns, knives and at least one samurai sword.

Nationalist blogs had called for Russians to gather at Kievsky railway station in central Moscow to continue protests over the death by shooting on 6 December of a Spartak supporter during a fight with men from the Caucasus.

Hundreds of nationalist youths, including many young women, gathered at the station while hundreds more spread across the city. A smaller number of men from the Caucasus met with the aim of fighting back. Several clashes were reported.

The make-up of the crowd was much younger, and seemingly less aggressive, than the one that gathered on Saturday.

"We came here because they screw our women, rape our women," said Vadim, 15, referring to migrants from the Caucasus, Russia's southern, mainly Muslim region. "We want them out of Moscow."

The protests, originally organised by Spartak's unofficial fan club, have spread to include Russia's disaffected youth, sparking fears that racial tensions may have irreparably boiled over. Racism is widespread and widely tolerated in the country, with dozens of immigrants killed and hundreds injured each year.

The unrest, not seen in Moscow for years, has raised doubts over its ability to safely host the 2018 World Cup, which it was awarded two weeks ago.

"In general, and as for all major international competitions and events, security planning and implementation is primarily the responsibility of the host country," a Fifa spokesman said. "There are eight years to go before the 2018 Fifa World Cup … In working with Fifa, we are confident that the Russian authorities will … ensure adequate security plans will be in place."

About 65 people were detained after Saturday's riot but all were soon released. So far, 11 criminal cases have been opened. Moscow's mayor, Sergei Sobyanin, made no comment on the unrest until Tuesday, when he said: "If someone thinks that he can do anything he wants in the city, go around killing innocent people, then they are mistaken."

The prime minister, Vladimir Putin, does not plan to comment, his spokesman told Russian radio.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2010/dec/15/second-moscow-riot-1000-detained

Scary stuff.

[Os Cangaceiros]

"We came here because they screw our women, rape our women," said Vadim, 15, referring to migrants from the Caucasus, Russia's southern, mainly Muslim region. "We want them out of Moscow."

Hehe, what was Dimentio saying about neo-fascism's preoccupation with sex being an American far-right phenomenon? :D

[Stand Your Ground]

Search in youtube exactly for: Red and anarhist skinhead Russia

Redskin comrades fighting against the scum :cool:
I guess there aren't enough though, we need more, millions more.

[Agnapostate]

Has anyone asked them if the "Russia for Russians" chants include the Chukchi?

[#FF0000]

And there's a backlash:

http://www.euronews.net/2010/12/15/mass-arrests-in-moscow-over-ethnic-riots/

Russians vs. Gangs from the North Caucasus?

Yeah, that's fine journalism there. :rolleyes:

[Delenda Carthago]

I need some russians to answer to some questions:

What does the whole issue means for Russia for the next day?Are the nazis gonna get bigger or weaker? Their relationship with the Putin regime is gonna be broken or not?

[StalinFanboy]

Actually the OMON was quite lenient to these bastards - after all, they are Russian patriots and love Putin, don't they :cursing:?

If Russian left even attempted some moderate kind of direct action, they would be most likely arrested en masse and sentenced to several years of hard labour, while these Nazis are "released". This shows full well the nature of current Russian state!

Anarchists and Antifa actually do some pretty crazy shit in Russia. They certainly don't have the public support, but that doesn't mean they are weak by any means.

I would say they are more organized than the entire Left in America.

[the last donut of the night]

The prime minister, Vladimir Putin, does not plan to comment, his spokesman told Russian radio.

Whoever still thinks the Russian state has nothing to do with these movements is sadly, horribly mistaken.

[neosyndic]

x

[Crimson Commissar]

It's such a shame you would have thought the legacy of the soviet union would have actually made a difference. I believe it was under Stalin that they introduced scholarships for African students to come there to study at university and their support for South Africa and anti-apartheid was immense. Where did it all go wrong??? (rhetorical question)
Russian nationalists tend to see the Soviet Union as a second russian empire. It's this sort of thinking that has made the likes of Putin so popular, and utterly destroyed the actual communist movement in Russia.

[Dire Helix]

granted. but, if the russian state is behind the national-bolsheviks and they enjoy police protection (and public support among the lower classes) it is only a matter of time before the antifa network will have to go underground and adopt Samizdat (самиздат) tactics.

The Russian state is totally NOT behind the national-bolsheviks. On the contrary, the nazbols are one of the most persecuted anti-government groups in Russia.


Russian nationalists tend to see the Soviet Union as a second russian empire.

Only some of them do(they still view Lenin, socialism and the October Revolution in a very negative light though). Most think the USSR was a product of a conspiracy against Russia organized by German agents Lenin and Trotsky and the Jewish financial capital backing them(or something of the sort).

[Anarchist Skinhead]

yeah, it was OBVIOUSLY Jews ;)