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Fawkes
10th December 2010, 02:51
Fact

Bright Banana Beard
10th December 2010, 02:58
herp a derp with that herp a derp?

John "Eh" MacDonald
10th December 2010, 03:00
Agreed, except for when your drunk since a persons usually already in "derp zone."that is, if they're drinking the right way.

Ele'ill
10th December 2010, 03:03
I like where this thread could possibly go (post derp pictures and videos now)


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http://images.memegenerator.net/Philosoraptor/ImageMacro/2880273/If-herp-derp-Then-why-herpa-derp-derp-blurp.jpg

Meridian
10th December 2010, 03:08
Anyone who uses the word "derp" is a comrade.

John "Eh" MacDonald
10th December 2010, 03:10
Anyone who uses the word "derp" is a comrade.

This shit just hit a whole new level.

IronEastBloc
10th December 2010, 03:16
It is a descriptive word that covers the comraderie of communism. I do not see why i should exclude it from my vocabulary just because it was made into a stock phrase by the bourgeois media.

Comrade Wolfie's Very Nearly Banned Adventures
10th December 2010, 03:18
It is a descriptive word that covers the comraderie of communism.

If you've learn't anything from Revleft, it's that the left is far from comraderie, more veiled insults and sectarian digs.

And a good purge.

Widerstand
10th December 2010, 03:28
Anyone who uses the word "derp" is a comrade.

oh dear.

Fawkes
10th December 2010, 03:29
Anyone who uses the word "derp" is a comrade.

Meridian: Mayor of Derp City

Tablo
10th December 2010, 03:31
Fuck everyone that says comrade ever. I'm not your comrade and Ima send you all to the gulag when my cp takes over!

Jalapeno Enema
10th December 2010, 05:22
Anyone who uses the word "comrade" is a derpAgreed.

I think it's a symptom of "Polly wants a cracker" mentality. If you got nothing to say, repeat what you hear most in arguments you like ("fascist", "reformist", "comrade").

It really makes leftist seem like they have a communication problem. Perhaps it's time to improve our lexicons. Here's a link to a free on-line thesaurus (http://www.merriam-webster.com/).

Kuppo Shakur
10th December 2010, 05:31
But I am Comrade.

Tablo
10th December 2010, 05:33
But I am Comrade.
No, you're a troll.

Red Commissar
10th December 2010, 05:42
Fact

gvdf5n-zI14

Kuppo Shakur
10th December 2010, 06:00
No, you're a troll.
That's the first time anyone's every called me that.
I'm so happy!

Tablo
10th December 2010, 06:08
That's the first time anyone's every called me that.
I'm so happy!
You serious? Wow, I thought everyone has been called that by now. Congrats! :lol:

Jalapeno Enema
10th December 2010, 06:29
You serious? Wow, I thought everyone has been called that by now. Congrats! :lol:Troll

Bad Grrrl Agro
10th December 2010, 06:35
Fuck everyone that says comrade ever.
That sounds like a lot of work.

Unclebananahead
10th December 2010, 06:38
Agreed.

I think it's a symptom of "Polly wants a cracker" mentality. If you got nothing to say, repeat what you hear most in arguments you like ("fascist", "reformist", "comrade").

It really makes leftist seem like they have a communication problem. Perhaps it's time to improve our lexicons. Here's a link to a free on-line thesaurus (http://www.merriam-webster.com/).

Are we really going to let the numerous 'Mr. Blocks' and crappy cappies dictate our choice of phrases? Why can't we use the term, 'comrade' if we feel like doing so?

Jalapeno Enema
10th December 2010, 06:49
Are we really going to let the numerous 'Mr. Blocks' and crappy cappies dictate our choice of phrases? Why can't we use the term, 'comrade' if we feel like doing so?If you really want.

Of course, as these terms continue to lose all true meaning, I'll continue to zone them out.

Tablo
10th December 2010, 06:49
That sounds like a lot of work.
Well someone's got to do it!

Bad Grrrl Agro
10th December 2010, 06:55
Well someone's got to do it!
I'll think about accepting this task.:unsure:
How much would I be payed?

Tablo
10th December 2010, 07:05
I'll think about accepting this task.:unsure:
How much would I be payed?
You will probably be payed in sexual favors... which will be from the comrade people.. yeah you won't actually get any real pay.

Bad Grrrl Agro
10th December 2010, 07:10
You will probably be payed in sexual favors... which will be from the comrade people.. yeah you won't actually get any real pay.
Well, good luck finding someone to do that for free... :lol:

Magón
10th December 2010, 07:15
I'm gonna start calling people by numbers.

Il Medico
10th December 2010, 07:16
That sounds like a lot of work.
This made me laugh so hard.

Bad Grrrl Agro
10th December 2010, 07:19
I'm gonna start calling people by numbers.
I get dibs on 69!

Bad Grrrl Agro
10th December 2010, 07:21
This made me laugh so hard.
What's so funny?

Il Medico
10th December 2010, 07:26
What's so funny?
Was reading through this thread and it was nothing but utterly stupid post, then you came in with a random sex joke and I just burst out laughing. Milk on the monitor and everything, it was great.

Bad Grrrl Agro
10th December 2010, 07:30
Was reading through this thread and it was nothing but utterly stupid post, then you came in with a random sex joke and I just burst out laughing. Milk on the monitor and everything, it was great.
Well in all honesty I would be the one to realize how much work that would be.

Jalapeno Enema
10th December 2010, 07:40
Was reading through this thread and it was nothing but utterly stupid post, then you came in with a random sex joke and I just burst out laughing. Milk on the monitor and everything, it was great.Milk?

Bad Grrrl Agro
10th December 2010, 07:47
Milk?
I could say something really dirty, but I'll leave that one to you.

Bright Banana Beard
10th December 2010, 07:56
I know it is not soymilk.

Jalapeno Enema
10th December 2010, 07:57
I could say something really dirty, but I'll leave that one to you.I don't think I have to. I'm not the one who sprayed my "milk on the monitor and everything"

Spawn of Stalin
10th December 2010, 08:02
Cum

Unclebananahead
10th December 2010, 08:03
Hehehe, wow. You people are really bored.

Tablo
10th December 2010, 08:05
Clearly. Not much else to do at 2am for me.

Jalapeno Enema
10th December 2010, 08:05
Hehehe, wow. You people are really bored.Temporarily unemployed and insomniac. So yes, I suppose so.

Bad Grrrl Agro
10th December 2010, 08:07
I know it is not soymilk.
I like soy milk!

Bad Grrrl Agro
10th December 2010, 08:09
Hehehe, wow. You people are really bored.
I wasn't earlier.

Jalapeno Enema
10th December 2010, 08:27
I wasn't earlier.then you logged onto revleft, eh?

Bad Grrrl Agro
10th December 2010, 08:40
then you logged onto revleft, eh?
No. Then my, um, intimate interaction ceased for the evening. Then I logged on. Now I am bored.

Jalapeno Enema
10th December 2010, 08:48
No. Then my, um, intimate interaction ceased for the evening. Then I logged on. Now I am bored.I see. Mine fell asleep.

Bad Grrrl Agro
10th December 2010, 08:53
I see. Mine fell asleep.
Mine had to go take care of somethings and is leaving me looking forward to tomorrow.

Tablo
10th December 2010, 09:06
At least you guys have some intimate interaction. >.>

Quail
10th December 2010, 09:07
Why are so many people on this site sexually frustrated?

Tablo
10th December 2010, 09:08
I'm sexually frustrated because the only time I get sex recently is when I'm going to parties. I don't get any consistent attention when I really need it. :(

Jalapeno Enema
10th December 2010, 09:21
Why are so many people on this site sexually frustrated?My guess, and this is completely serious, is that the primary demographic of this site is of the teen to young adult category, and said demographic often (if not typically) has a high libido, yet finds themselves in a precarious time of social/ psychological development.

It's easy to want sex then it is to get it.

Spawn of Stalin
10th December 2010, 13:16
Yeah you people need to concentrate on other things, I mean it's chill to be having sex regularly and what not but I dunno people talk about it as if they've never done it like you never know who could be reading...a potential lover maybe. I guess what I'm trying to say is don't come crying to the revleft ML posse when your significant other breaks up with you because they found out you were the one who made that post about spurting "milk" all over your monitor.

Il Medico
10th December 2010, 13:16
Milk?
Yes, I'm that white.


I could say something really dirty, but I'll leave that one to you.
I should have saw this cumming. [/bad pun]

Il Medico
10th December 2010, 13:21
up with you because they found out you were the one who made that post about spurting "milk" all over your monitor.
Well in fairness I was drinking it first.



I realize that last sentence didn't help.

Sasha
10th December 2010, 15:58
Why are so many people in chichat sexually frustrated?

fixed that, and the answer is because they are mostly teenagers who should be out getting laid instead of posting.

Os Cangaceiros
10th December 2010, 16:10
Why are so many people on this site sexually frustrated?

Because people don't know how to keep cringe-inducing personal shit to themselves, that's why.


It's easy to want sex then it is to get it.

Isn't that true with literally everything?

Nolan
10th December 2010, 16:13
Keep going guys, the NKVD is takin down names.

Blackscare
10th December 2010, 16:25
http://boards.420chan.org/tg/src/1291506282052.png

Jalapeno Enema
10th December 2010, 16:34
Well in fairness I was drinking it first.



I realize that last sentence didn't help.I was cleaning my ear with a cotton swab when I read this.

Ouch.

Fawkes
10th December 2010, 17:05
Why are so many people on this site sexually frustrated?

Because they're on this site.

Wanted Man
10th December 2010, 17:07
Why are so many people on this site sexually frustrated?

What is it with you and your obsessive pursuit of this theme? Projection much?

Magón
10th December 2010, 17:21
What is it with people, and always having to add their little bit on a post about Sexual Frustration?

:p

Os Cangaceiros
10th December 2010, 17:26
"What is it with people who ask questions?"

In all honesty, though, I don't think that "so many" people on this forum are "sexually frusterated", at least not visibly so. Sure, once in a while we get the odd "how can I find a communist girl?" hilarious thread, but I don't really see the huge trend of revlefters *****ing online about how they can't get laid. The large majority of people who I've met IRL from this site were involved in some sort of relationship at the time that I met them, actually, although I didn't bother to ask them any questions in regards to their sexual frusteration.

Amphictyonis
10th December 2010, 18:29
Temporarily unemployed and insomniac. So yes, I suppose so.

Try counting comrades jumping over fences in your sleep. It works for me. Elderly Russian women wearing babushka's wielding AK 47's pointed at the sky are my comrades. For some reason thats what I think of when I think comrade.

Fawkes
10th December 2010, 18:30
It's because the more you use the internet, the more you become used to disconnected personal interactions, and as such, "real life" interactions tend to lessen and become more difficult/awkward, causing people to further their time spent on the internet to cope for the lack of social interaction occurring in their day to day life. And cause the internet has free porn.

Fawkes
10th December 2010, 18:31
But anyway, the word "comrade" is so derpy.

Amphictyonis
10th December 2010, 18:35
But anyway, the word "comrade" is so derpy.
We need a comrade tendency. The mythical dead revolutionary everyone aspires to be. Comradists. Comradism.

Nolan
10th December 2010, 18:40
What is it with you and your obsessive pursuit of this theme? Projection much?

I thank this post.

Quail
10th December 2010, 19:02
What is it with you and your obsessive pursuit of this theme? Projection much?
Well people moaning about not getting enough sex kind of invites my comments. Nothing wrong with my sex life thanks.

gorillafuck
10th December 2010, 19:07
No. Then my, um, intimate interaction ceased for the evening. Then I logged on. Now I am bored.
You literally don't post anything that isn't about fucking. It's bizarre.

I don't see the problem with the word comrade when used in the right context (i.e. "comrades from so and so were there to help us out etc.")

Palingenisis
10th December 2010, 19:09
Keep going guys, the NKVD is takin down names.

That actually did make me laugh.

Good one.

Fawkes
10th December 2010, 19:09
I don't see the problem with the word comrade when used in the right context (i.e. "comrades from so and so were there to help us out etc.")

Well that's because you're a derp.

gorillafuck
10th December 2010, 19:11
Well that's because you're a derp.
You just think you're too hip to use useful words.

Fawkes
10th December 2010, 19:17
Like derp?

Palingenisis
10th December 2010, 19:19
Like derp?

You actually take this seriously dont you?

Could that be consider "derpish"?

gorillafuck
10th December 2010, 19:22
Like derp?
Word.

Il Medico
10th December 2010, 19:22
I was cleaning my ear with a cotton swab when I read this.

Ouch.
I do my best.

But in all seriousness, i really was drinking milk and I really did spit it all over my monitor. And that's milk, not "milk". You know, squeezed fresh from a cow tit, drank by babies, used to make ice cream, etc.

Fawkes
10th December 2010, 19:24
You actually take this seriously dont you?

Could that be consider "derpish"?

You're a derp.

Take what seriously?

gorillafuck
10th December 2010, 19:35
In all honesty, though, I don't think that "so many" people on this forum are "sexually frusterated", at least not visibly so. Sure, once in a while we get the odd "how can I find a communist girl?" hilarious thread, but I don't really see the huge trend of revlefters *****ing online about how they can't get laid. The large majority of people who I've met IRL from this site were involved in some sort of relationship at the time that I met them, actually, although I didn't bother to ask them any questions in regards to their sexual frusteration.
The thing is, a lot of people on this site take one or two instances of something happening and will use it generalize everyone on the site (except themselves of course. Everyone sucks but them and their buddies). If one person says something about how they hate that they can't get a dare or something, it obviously means that revleft is a No Girls Allowed club in the old treehouse in the backyard.

Is it irritating? Yep. Is it the sort of self righteousness that actually just seems like a parody of the left? You betcha.

Jalapeno Enema
10th December 2010, 20:07
I do my best.

But in all seriousness, i really was drinking milk and I really did spit it all over my monitor. And that's milk, not "milk". You know, squeezed fresh from a cow tit, drank by babies, used to make ice cream, etc.There's nothing like fresh squeezed cow.

Bright Banana Beard
10th December 2010, 20:26
There's nothing like fresh squeezed cow.

And squirting it make it great item to swallow!

Tablo
10th December 2010, 21:04
You guys are gross. This whole site is gross.

Os Cangaceiros
10th December 2010, 21:10
http://img.ffffound.com/static-data/assets/6/46b83e44f62935f7b2a62a003b7ee45b90c63623_m.jpg

Steve_j
10th December 2010, 21:25
Fuck everyone that says comrade ever. I'm not your comrade and Ima send you all to the gulag when my cp takes over!

How i wish i could rep in chit chat, have a smiley instead :D

Il Medico
10th December 2010, 21:57
There's nothing like fresh squeezed cow.
Indeed. It can even be used to fight against the police.

Example:
http://www.oddee.com/_media/imgs/articles2/a96847_a521_cow-protest-milk.jpg
Everyone knows pigs are lactose intolerant.

Aloysius
10th December 2010, 22:03
I've actually fallen into the unhealthy habit of calling everyone "comrade", going so far as to call my blatantly anti-communist geography teacher a comrade.
Needless to say, she was pissed, but she's a big fat meany-face anyway.

Wanted Man
10th December 2010, 22:46
Well people moaning about not getting enough sex kind of invites my comments. Nothing wrong with my sex life thanks.

Does it work like a kind of homing beacon though? Like, if someone includes the words "sex", "get" and "can't" in a post, will you automatically pop out like a jack-in-the-box to berate them for their incapabilities? Or do you use the Forum Search function to achieve this effect? Does it make you feel big?

Jazzratt
10th December 2010, 22:55
Does it work like a kind of homing beacon though? Like, if someone includes the words "sex", "get" and "can't" in a post, will you automatically pop out like a jack-in-the-box to berate them for their incapabilities? Or do you use the Forum Search function to achieve this effect? Does it make you feel big? I feel inclined to speak in kayl's defence, given her absence and point out that I've not seen her pop out like a jack in the box to berate each and every poster who's unable to get laid. Also, ripping on people who post on this site as virgin losers is hardly a new thing and I don't think her comments are nearly as mean spirited as you seem to imply.
Certainly I think it would be very out of character for a member who is by most accounts generally quite kind and understanding (see her contributions to the poor your heart out thread and her own excellent thread on depression) to start lashing out at people in order to feel big.

Tablo
10th December 2010, 23:14
I feel inclined to speak in kayl's defence, given her absence and point out that I've not seen her pop out like a jack in the box to berate each and every poster who's unable to get laid. Also, ripping on people who post on this site as virgin losers is hardly a new thing and I don't think her comments are nearly as mean spirited as you seem to imply.
Certainly I think it would be very out of character for a member who is by most accounts generally quite kind and understanding (see her contributions to the poor your heart out thread and her own excellent thread on depression) to start lashing out at people in order to feel big.
Wish I could rep this.

Wanted Man
10th December 2010, 23:31
I feel inclined to speak in kayl's defence, given her absence and point out that I've not seen her pop out like a jack in the box to berate each and every poster who's unable to get laid.

(...)

Certainly I think it would be very out of character for a member who is by most accounts generally quite kind and understanding (see her contributions to the poor your heart out thread and her own excellent thread on depression) to start lashing out at people in order to feel big.

Maybe it's just me then.


Also, ripping on people who post on this site as virgin losers is hardly a new thing and I don't think her comments are nearly as mean spirited as you seem to imply.

True. People on Revleft say that, and a lot of other fucked-up things, with a high amount of regularity. Nobody is a saint, but I do think this variety basically amounts to a very petty kind of schoolyard bullying.

The point is that it demeans and degrades people who may not have done anything wrong. Of course, the internet, especially Revleft, undoubtedly consists for 90% of big internet hardmen who have nothing to complain about in their sex life or life in general, and if one had to worry about causing offence with every post, there wouldn't be any posts anymore. But it's a bit sad to constantly knock people into the ground who simply aren't as socially gifted as some other user undoubtedly is...

I think it's a kind of mean-spirited bullying because it basically forces people on the defensive; it's designed to make them feel like shit for something they might not have influence over. Even as I say this, I have to avoid adding a sentence like "Don't get me wrong, I don't have anything to complain about myself, but..." I.e. I feel I have to justify myself for even arguing that involuntarily celibate people exist and that they are not necessarily all sad and worthless individuals who should just get laid already, even though I'm not one of them myself.

Maybe I've noticed this particular user comment on this 2 or 3 times. To be fair, she has only ever talked about "Revleft users" in a general sense and not singled out individuals as far as I remember, but it can still have a triggering effect on some people by my estimation. I don't want to lecture anyone about this, but perhaps, for once, people can stop judging each other for all kinds of offline stuff that they don't know anything about anyway.

Jazzratt
10th December 2010, 23:43
True. People on Revleft say that, and a lot of other fucked-up things, with a high amount of regularity. Nobody is a saint, but I do think this variety basically amounts to a very petty kind of schoolyard bullying.

The point is that it demeans and degrades people who may not have done anything wrong. Of course, the internet, especially Revleft, undoubtedly consists for 90% of big internet hardmen who have nothing to complain about in their sex life or life in general, and if one had to worry about causing offence with every post, there wouldn't be any posts anymore. But it's a bit sad to constantly knock people into the ground who simply aren't as socially gifted as some other user undoubtedly is...

I think it's a kind of mean-spirited bullying because it basically forces people on the defensive; it's designed to make them feel like shit for something they might not have influence over. Even as I say this, I have to avoid adding a sentence like "Don't get me wrong, I don't have anything to complain about myself, but..." I.e. I feel I have to justify myself for even arguing that involuntarily celibate people exist and that they are not necessarily all sad and worthless individuals who should just get laid already, even though I'm not one of them myself.

Maybe I've noticed this particular user comment on this 2 or 3 times. To be fair, she has only ever talked about "Revleft users" in a general sense and not singled out individuals as far as I remember, but it can still have a triggering effect on some people by my estimation. I don't want to lecture anyone about this, but perhaps, for once, people can stop judging each other for all kinds of offline stuff that they don't know anything about anyway. I can definitely see where you're coming from on this; you're quite right in fact. In hindsight I guess "everyone does it" is kind of a lame excuse for behaviour that can feel like bullying, although I honestly feel that the more generally directed nature of those kind of comments does make them, to my mind, feel less malicious. I don't know that it's the case with everyone though.

I spent a long time "involuntarily celibate" [how long is quite irrelevant] and it is noticeable how insulting this kind of thing can be. I mean there are still a few aspects of my life and living conditions that tend to be ribbed on here and elsewhere on the net. I don't personally find it too insulting but I can see how others would take offence.

EDIT: In case you were wondering posts like the one I quoted, and many others around the forum are why I think Wanted Man is an awesome poster.

Stand Your Ground
10th December 2010, 23:56
It is a descriptive word that covers the comraderie of communism. I do not see why i should exclude it from my vocabulary just because it was made into a stock phrase by the bourgeois media.
This. I like 'comrade'. I hate how Nazis use it though (SF). :cursing: Then again, Nazis try to steal everything.

Ele'ill
11th December 2010, 00:34
http://img.ffffound.com/static-data/assets/6/46b83e44f62935f7b2a62a003b7ee45b90c63623_m.jpg



:lol: :lol:

4 Leaf Clover
11th December 2010, 00:44
I use word comrade , fuck you

Bad Grrrl Agro
11th December 2010, 09:22
Why are so many people on this site sexually frustrated?
I'm not sexually frustrated, I think I may be the source of someone else's frustration.

Quail
11th December 2010, 09:37
Does it work like a kind of homing beacon though? Like, if someone includes the words "sex", "get" and "can't" in a post, will you automatically pop out like a jack-in-the-box to berate them for their incapabilities? Or do you use the Forum Search function to achieve this effect? Does it make you feel big?
It wasn't intended maliciously. It just seemed as though there were a lot of people complaining about their lack of sex. I don't think I've even commented that often on it. :confused:

ZeroNowhere
11th December 2010, 12:02
I use word comrade , fuck youWe should have less impassioned, tense arguments over Stalin, and more over the use of the word 'comrade'. 'You want me to stop saying the word 'comrade'? Well, fuck you, you worthless piece of shit, I hope you die in a fire.'

Honggweilo
28th December 2010, 22:51
herpism-derpatism and are you a wizard thought

Manic Impressive
28th December 2010, 23:13
I think those of us who are not soviet worshipping Stalinites should drop the word comrade. I think we should go back to the first International and call each other citizen now that's really retro :marx: :engles:

Communist Pear
29th December 2010, 00:51
I think those of us who are not soviet worshipping Stalinites should drop the word comrade. I think we should go back to the first International and call each other citizen now that's really retro :marx: :engles:
no u manic

Manic Impressive
29th December 2010, 02:58
no u manic
:D:DWhatever you say Citizen Pear:D:D

c'mon you gotta admit that sounds good

Salyut
29th December 2010, 03:04
derpderpderpderpderpderpderpderp (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nmSPYnuKHPU)

REVLEFT'S BIEGGST MATSER TROL
29th December 2010, 05:20
This entire fucking thread is terrible

MarxSchmarx
29th December 2010, 07:13
I think those of us who are not soviet worshipping Stalinites should drop the word comrade. I think we should go back to the first International and call each other citizen now that's really retro :marx: :engles:

You say you want retro?
http://sepiensa.org.mx/contenidos/historia_mundo/media/feudal/feudalismo/img/feudal_5.jpg

the citizen thing goes back to wanting to emulate the bourgeois french revolution- just like the internationale was meant once upon a time to be sung to the tune of la marseilles.

I'll take my tank over your guillotine any day.

Ele'ill
29th December 2010, 07:33
We should use language displayed in the video games 'Morrowind' and 'Oblivion'.

REVLEFT'S BIEGGST MATSER TROL
29th December 2010, 16:04
Just curious but when did the word comrade supersede "citizen?"

Jazzratt
29th December 2010, 16:14
Just curious but when did the word comrade supersede "citizen?" I believe it was on a Tuesday, just after lunchtime.

An archist
29th December 2010, 17:21
Where I live, people sometimes call there friends 'kameraad'.

For example, if you want to say 'I'm going to the pub with some friends'
you could say 'Ik ga op café me wa kameraden'

You're welcome.

TC
29th December 2010, 18:52
It sounds pretty silly if groups of people who discovered communism/socialism/anarchism on the internet or at school start throwing it around, its an affectation,

But there are communities - political parties and *trade unions* that have institutionalized the term and continue to use it because they have members who have been using it for twenty or thirty years, and their organization or its ancestor has been using it since the term developed.

MilkmanofHumanKindness
29th December 2010, 19:06
The use of the word Comrade always makes me feel like I'm in 1920's Russia...

Manic Impressive
29th December 2010, 19:33
The use of the word Comrade always makes me feel like I'm in 1920's Russia...
Exactly it's a cliché, a lot of my friends call me comrade coz they think it's funny and maybe that I enjoy it (I don't) citizen is so much cooler and gets rid of the negative baggage associated with the FSU

It's also less sectarian as I see some anarchists have a problem with comrade. How would anarchists feel about replacing it with citizen?

Pavlov's House Party
29th December 2010, 19:48
We should use language displayed in the video games 'Morrowind' and 'Oblivion'.

STOP RIGHT THERE CRIMiNAL SCUM!

Pirate Utopian
29th December 2010, 19:52
Why call eachother things nobody else does to begin with?

revolution inaction
29th December 2010, 21:13
Exactly it's a cliché, a lot of my friends call me comrade coz they think it's funny and maybe that I enjoy it (I don't) citizen is so much cooler and gets rid of the negative baggage associated with the FSU

It's also less sectarian as I see some anarchists have a problem with comrade. How would anarchists feel about replacing it with citizen?

citizen sounds much worse to me, like something out of a cyberpunk film, it also implies a state

I don't call people comrade when i am talking to them, but i may refer to people who share my politics as comrade/s if i am talking about them.

TC
29th December 2010, 22:51
Just curious but when did the word comrade supersede "citizen?"


citizen is so much cooler and gets rid of the negative baggage associated with the FSU

It's also less sectarian as I see some anarchists have a problem with comrade. How would anarchists feel about replacing it with citizen?

Heres one of the nerdier things to crop up in a nerdy thread (I can't believe anyone thinks citizen as a courtesy title is cool).


My understanding is that "citizen" has never been used that way by any English speaking population (save maybe Citizen Kane). Two groups who used it were the French bourgeois revolutionaries and in the Soviet Union.

During the French Revolution, the issue was in part titles of nobility and Citoyen was used as a title for anyone whether a friend, co-partisan or enemy. So, when they executed Louis XVI, they referred to him not as "your majesty" (or whatever) but as Citoyen Louis Capet.

This is clearly a very different term than "comrade": to call someone Comrade X is to declare that you are in political and/or social solidarity with X as an equal - whereas to call someone Citoyen X is merely to say that X is equal under the political regime.

This was precisely how it was used in the Soviet Union where the Russian version of citizen = everyone was a citizen but only people you were in solidarity with (such as other party members, work colleagues, everyone if you're nice and friendly like that) was a comrade.

In Soviet legal proceedings, the prosecutor would address the accused (or convicted) not as Comrade Y but only Citizen Y. Thus, to call someone "Citizen" was actually to depreciate them: the opposite effect of calling someone comrade.

StalinFanboy
29th December 2010, 23:44
Instead of "comrade" I use "bro"

Manic Impressive
30th December 2010, 00:52
My understanding is that "citizen" has never been used that way by any English speaking population (save maybe Citizen Kane). Two groups who used it were the French bourgeois revolutionaries and in the Soviet Union.
errr Marx is a bourgeois French revolutionary? Along with the other members of the first International which was of course centered in London. It's use has had a resurgence from time to time I believe it was used in the 60's and 70's as well. If we want to talk about people we don't agree with politically using terms that we do I can think of a few who use comrade.

Martin Blank
30th December 2010, 04:17
I save use of the word "comrade" for people I work with closely, or as a formal substitute for "Mister" or "Miss". Personally, I prefer "brother" or "sister" for general political interactions -- something I take from my time in labor unions.

People who regularly use the word "derp" are hurp-a-durps themselves.

Diello
30th December 2010, 04:33
I believe it was on a Tuesday, just after lunchtime.

Time is an illusion, lunchtime doubly so.


People who regularly use the word "derp" are hurp-a-durps themselves.

Please! Stop this sectarian bickering!

Geiseric
30th December 2010, 06:39
I have some friends that use comrade and I don't like it because it sounds like they go out of their way yo say it. For example, instead of going ''wanna get some pizza?'' they'll say ''hey comrade, wanna get some pizza?'' and most of them are petit bourguase. It's kinda like a non black guy saying the N word, or a non mexican saying ''esse.''

I say we abolish all titles and call everybody by first names! W00t anti conformist!

Martin Blank
30th December 2010, 10:03
I have some friends that use comrade and I don't like it because it sounds like they go out of their way yo say it. For example, instead of going ''wanna get some pizza?'' they'll say ''hey comrade, wanna get some pizza?'' and most of them are petit bourguase. It's kinda like a non black guy saying the N word, or a non mexican saying ''esse.''

I have a "friend" like that -- my oldest friend, in fact. Every time we're hanging out or whatever, he would always introduce me by saying, "This is ..., he's a Marxist". He stopped after I introduced him to a woman he liked by saying, "This is Glenn, he's 37, a shrivel-dick and has never held a job for more than three months at a time" (all completely true, BTW).

Obviously, our friendship is dodgy at the moment. :cool:

synthesis
30th December 2010, 10:37
I have a "friend" like that -- my oldest friend, in fact. Every time we're hanging out or whatever, he would always introduce me by saying, "This is ..., he's a Marxist". He stopped after I introduced him to a woman he liked by saying, "This is Glenn, he's 37, a shrivel-dick and has never held a job for more than three months at a time" (all completely true, BTW).

Wow, that seems completely disproportionate.

Martin Blank
30th December 2010, 12:15
Wow, that seems completely disproportionate.

I've put up with him doing that for over 20 years, and never said a word. I got fed up with it, and he got what he was due. Besides, the woman he was hitting on was my little cousin.

malthusela
30th December 2010, 16:29
And anyone who watches South Park is a moron. Seriously people, it stopped being funny in the 4th season.

Now Ren and Stimpy, THAT was hilarious.

TC
30th December 2010, 18:15
I save use of the word "comrade" for people I work with closely, or as a formal substitute for "Mister" or "Miss".

You should never call anyone "Miss" its a diminutive presumptive of marital status. Only politically incorrect old people use it. Always use Ms. by default unless someone insists on being Mrs. (because they're one of those old politically incorrect people).

synthesis
30th December 2010, 22:00
In spoken conversation, however, it can be somewhat difficult to distinguish between "Ms." and "Miss". The former, I guess, has a little more of a "z" sound to it.

Manic Impressive
30th December 2010, 22:07
You should never call anyone "Miss" its a diminutive presumptive of marital status. Only politically incorrect old people use it. Always use Ms. by default unless someone insists on being Mrs. (because they're one of those old politically incorrect people).
Citizen TC what are you on about. It's concerning that people actually spend time worrying about titles.

p.s. did you used to go by Thought Criminal?

synthesis
30th December 2010, 22:24
And anyone who watches South Park is a moron. Seriously people, it stopped being funny in the 4th season.

Now Ren and Stimpy, THAT was hilarious.

Nah, South Park only got good around the 5th season.

Pirate Utopian
30th December 2010, 22:38
I really loved the second half of the last season. Especially the superhero episodes.

"Shut up Mintberry Crunch you aren't even anything!"

Martin Blank
30th December 2010, 22:55
You should never call anyone "Miss" its a diminutive presumptive of marital status. Only politically incorrect old people use it. Always use Ms. by default unless someone insists on being Mrs. (because they're one of those old politically incorrect people).


In spoken conversation, however, it can be somewhat difficult to distinguish between "Ms." and "Miss". The former, I guess, has a little more of a "z" sound to it.

I don't use "Miss" in spoken conversation, unless the person to whom I am speaking prefers it (and, yes, there are women who use the term and have no problems with it). But in the mad rush to create a feminist-friendly term, the inventors of "Ms." forgot one basic component: the actual spelling of "Ms.", above and beyond its "abbreviation". I literally sat staring at the screen for five minutes trying to figure out its long form. No luck. Tell me a way to properly spell out "Ms." and I'll use it.

Martin Blank
30th December 2010, 22:55
p.s. did you used to go by Thought Criminal?

TC = Tragic Clown

Jazzratt
30th December 2010, 23:49
I don't use "Miss" in spoken conversation, unless the person to whom I am speaking prefers it (and, yes, there are women who use the term and have no problems with it). But in the mad rush to create a feminist-friendly term, the inventors of "Ms." forgot one basic component: the actual spelling of "Ms.", above and beyond its "abbreviation". I literally sat staring at the screen for five minutes trying to figure out its long form. No luck. Tell me a way to properly spell out "Ms." and I'll use it. I believe there is no "long form" and Ms. is not, in fact a true abbreviation.

psgchisolm
31st December 2010, 00:38
I rarely ever use the word Miss or Mrs. Unless I'm talking about one oy mf teachers or someone older than me I know on a formal basis.

revolution inaction
31st December 2010, 02:31
I don't use "Miss" in spoken conversation, unless the person to whom I am speaking prefers it (and, yes, there are women who use the term and have no problems with it). But in the mad rush to create a feminist-friendly term, the inventors of "Ms." forgot one basic component: the actual spelling of "Ms.", above and beyond its "abbreviation". I literally sat staring at the screen for five minutes trying to figure out its long form. No luck. Tell me a way to properly spell out "Ms." and I'll use it.

i think its miz


i i remember right all the female teachers at school used to be called miss, regardless of i they where married or not

Rêve Rouge
31st December 2010, 06:04
Oh wow...Up till now, I always though Ms. and Miss were the same thing. I didn't even know they had different pronunciations. In writing, I would always use Ms. In speaking, I would always use Miss. A little embarrassing. There's always something new that I learn from this site. Be it political or random little facts.

Martin Blank
31st December 2010, 06:16
I always thought "Mise" would be a decent long-form spelling for "Ms." It has the components for the abbreviation and there is precedent in the English language for both the orthography and pronunciation (then again, in English, "ghoti" can be pronounced "fish", so take it as you will).

synthesis
31st December 2010, 11:37
I always thought "Mise" would be a decent long-form spelling for "Ms." It has the components for the abbreviation and there is precedent in the English language for both the orthography and pronunciation (then again, in English, "ghoti" can be pronounced "fish", so take it as you will).

I think there is a high probability that you are the only person in the world who cares about this.

Manic Impressive
31st December 2010, 12:45
Oh wow...Up till now, I always though Ms. and Miss were the same thing. I didn't even know they had different pronunciations. In writing, I would always use Ms. In speaking, I would always use Miss. A little embarrassing. There's always something new that I learn from this site. Be it political or random little facts.
You have nothing to embarrassed about it's a silly rule which barely anyone cares about and has no real significance. If someone specifies what they would like to be called of course call them that but if not who cares.....because they probably don't

Manic Impressive
31st December 2010, 12:48
I think there is a high probability that you are the only person in the world who cares about this.
Nah there's two of them :rolleyes:


You should never call anyone "Miss" its a diminutive presumptive of marital status. Only politically incorrect old people use it. Always use Ms. by default unless someone insists on being Mrs. (because they're one of those old politically incorrect people).

malthusela
31st December 2010, 16:55
Nah, South Park only got good around the 5th season.

This is obviously not true.

Unless of course, you LIKE boring satire devoid of wit.

synthesis
31st December 2010, 22:56
Nah there's two of them :rolleyes:

I meant the long form spelling of the honorific "Ms.".


But in the mad rush to create a feminist-friendly term, the inventors of "Ms." forgot one basic component: the actual spelling of "Ms.", above and beyond its "abbreviation".

I actually just looked this up and "Ms" is apparently older than "Mrs" (both originally being short for Mistress, along with "Miss") but became archaic sometime around the 18th or 19th century then was revived in 1901 in a sense that one could describe as "feminist-friendly," if one wanted to be a dick about it.

This is actually a more interesting topic than I thought.

synthesis
31st December 2010, 23:01
This is obviously not true.

Unless of course, you LIKE boring satire devoid of wit.

No, even Parker and Stone say they look back on the first three seasons and cringe a little bit. I guess whether or not the satire is boring and devoid of wit is a matter of opinion (I think the opposite, obviously - the TARP episode is just classic) but the first three seasons were primarily dick/fart/shit jokes - nothing wrong with that, but their craftsmanship also improved over time, and around the fifth season you start to see real character development, the beginning of coherent plotlines and, of course, Butters.

malthusela
1st January 2011, 17:07
Butters.

Checkmate, my friend. Butters is the only thing That still amuses me.

I suppose I do not find satire funny.

Jazzratt
1st January 2011, 17:26
I suppose I do not find satire funny. I enjoy satire. What I don't enjoy is ham-fisted and unsubtle satire composed by people whose politics I despise. That said the dick jokes are good.

Manic Impressive
1st January 2011, 18:17
http://i239.photobucket.com/albums/ff241/xellos88330/SouthPark1403.jpg
:lol::laugh::lol:

Diello
1st January 2011, 22:16
I enjoy satire. What I don't enjoy is ham-fisted and unsubtle satire composed by people whose politics I despise. That said the dick jokes are good.

Sometimes I find their satire quite funny; sometimes I find it cringe-inducingly backwards and pointless. I really prefer the more character-based episodes to the 'issue' episodes.

And I do love the characters.

Martin Blank
1st January 2011, 22:27
I actually just looked this up and "Ms" is apparently older than "Mrs" (both originally being short for Mistress, along with "Miss") but became archaic sometime around the 18th or 19th century then was revived in 1901 in a sense that one could describe as "feminist-friendly," if one wanted to be a dick about it.

This is actually a more interesting topic than I thought.

See? That's what happens when you jump the shark on a seemingly obscure topic.

Sentinel
2nd January 2011, 02:36
This thread is too long to read. Anyway, I find the word comrade useful to describe other revolutionary leftists, especially fellow party members, in order to separate them from other people.

As for calling people comrades in conversation, I guess I usually leave that for when I want to signal seriousness. For instance; 'comrade, please don't spam, verbal warning'

In conclusion, the usage of this word a fine tradition amongst the left, and should continue. It's awesome.

The Man
2nd January 2011, 07:12
Fact


I totally agree with you, comrade.

synthesis
2nd January 2011, 10:15
See? That's what happens when you jump the shark on a seemingly obscure topic.

Wait, do you know what "jump the shark" means? I don't follow.


What I don't enjoy is ham-fisted and unsubtle satire composed by people whose politics I despise.

http://images.encyclopediadramatica.com/images/7/73/Giveafuckometer.gif

Martin Blank
3rd January 2011, 01:25
Wait, do you know what "jump the shark" means? I don't follow.

Yes, I do, and looking back I didn't express myself clearly. I thought you were saying I had jumped the shark with the "Mise" comment, but then you went back and looked into it -- realizing why, in the course of reading, I was not (or should not be) "the only person in the world who cares about this". English is a fascinating language. Confusing, but fascinating.

synthesis
3rd January 2011, 02:07
Yes, I do, and looking back I didn't express myself clearly. I thought you were saying I had jumped the shark with the "Mise" comment, but then you went back and looked into it -- realizing why, in the course of reading, I was not (or should not be) "the only person in the world who cares about this". English is a fascinating language. Confusing, but fascinating.

"Jumping the shark" is when something (usually some sort of serial art form) has evolved to the point that it essentially ridicules itself. I still think you're the only person who cares about whether "Ms." has a non-abbreviated equivalent ;)

Os Cangaceiros
3rd January 2011, 04:43
In regards to ms and miss and mrs: most people where I'm from use "ma'am". I think that might be a "rural thing", though.

Niccolò Rossi
3rd January 2011, 05:07
In regards to ms and miss and mrs: most people where I'm from use "ma'am". I think that might be a "rural thing", though.

I used to use 'ma'am'. Speaking of rural mannerisms, nowadays I've gotten into the habit of using 'love' which is probably perceived as being really fucking rude/politically incorrect. I guess it's the bogan in me coming out.

We all called our teachers 'miss'. It seems universally recognised at Australian schools, despite marital status.

Nic.

Martin Blank
3rd January 2011, 19:32
"Jumping the shark" is when something (usually some sort of serial art form) has evolved to the point that it essentially ridicules itself. I still think you're the only person who cares about whether "Ms." has a non-abbreviated equivalent ;)

Given that I do a lot of writing and editing of articles and documents, it's sorta my job to care. :cool:

Die Neue Zeit
4th January 2011, 01:47
You say you want retro?
http://sepiensa.org.mx/contenidos/historia_mundo/media/feudal/feudalismo/img/feudal_5.jpg

the citizen thing goes back to wanting to emulate the bourgeois french revolution- just like the internationale was meant once upon a time to be sung to the tune of la marseilles.

I'll take my tank over your guillotine any day.

But as you know, comrade, the word "citizen" still has its political uses beyond the legal connotation.

Sentinel
4th January 2011, 02:39
In my opinion a poll should be added to this thread, asking if people use the word comrade or not.

Fawkes
4th January 2011, 02:39
And if they answer yes, they shall be banned.







except for you, Sentinel

TwoSevensClash
5th January 2011, 02:30
I like where this thread could possibly go (post derp pictures and videos now)


GGn1Ap14Nd8

http://images.memegenerator.net/Philosoraptor/ImageMacro/2880273/If-herp-derp-Then-why-herpa-derp-derp-blurp.jpg

Comrade this video has restored my faith in comrade christ!

TC
9th January 2011, 18:41
I don't use "Miss" in spoken conversation, unless the person to whom I am speaking prefers it (and, yes, there are women who use the term and have no problems with it). But in the mad rush to create a feminist-friendly term, the inventors of "Ms." forgot one basic component: the actual spelling of "Ms.", above and beyond its "abbreviation". I literally sat staring at the screen for five minutes trying to figure out its long form. No luck. Tell me a way to properly spell out "Ms." and I'll use it.


You know this is easy to look up: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ms.

Ms. (American) or Ms (British) are not abbreviations anymore than Mrs./Mrs or Miss are abbreviations, all are derived ultimately from the anachronistic Mistress (parallel to Mister). There is no contemporary usable long form of any of the feminine honorifics - this is not a "problem" unique to Ms.


In any case feminists didn't invent Ms. they just adopted it as preferred - Ms. has been used for over a hundred years as an honorific that, like Mr., does not denote marital status (i.e. which man owns the person addressed).

TC
9th January 2011, 18:45
In spoken conversation, however, it can be somewhat difficult to distinguish between "Ms." and "Miss". The former, I guess, has a little more of a "z" sound to it.


Its not at all difficult - Miss is pronounced Miss and Ms is pronounced Mizz - the 'z' is meant to be said as a strong unambigous z. If someone called me "Miss [name]" in speech I'd feel irritated.