Students fuck shit up.

[Homage To Catalonia]

http://images.dailyexpress.co.uk/img/dynamic/galleries/517x/22891.jpg

What do you call a dead cop?

SMOKED BACON



http://images.dailyexpress.co.uk/img/dynamic/galleries/517x/22890.jpg

Anyone else notice lenin in the cofin?

BADASS!


http://news.bbcimg.co.uk/media/images/50362000/jpg/_50362085_student_riots3_304map.jpg

See map for revolutionary planning
MEOWW!

http://t0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRWCsPBGjgQEzBPl8Dhom0pYmePytdHG EuSoGHhTfmA7sB8QzT34g Hitler salute from the capitalist puppet



http://cdn2.lookbook.nu/files/looks/medium/593493_4be31c2fa17c2.jpg?1273175090

DUDE KNOWS WHERE ITS AT!


http://t2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQYGsRnG2TeaOdViLdyEntx3PJOmSCTw nlcdCostcQe8AIHr0_bXA

HERE HERE!

[bawbag]

I saw the protest in Glasgow today. Wanted to go up and join in.
I had a nice wee chat with the guy that was handing out the flyers, he and the guys running the protest at least knew what they were fighting for. It's a relief to see my generation actually care and are willing to fight for something.

Someone was holding a sign that said "Tories put the 'n' in cuts"

I thought that was good, had to think about it for a while though

[Vladimir Innit Lenin]

I don't really think making jokes about dead cops or deporting Tories is particularly helpful here.

It was pretty much expected that this legislation would be passed. However, students, in particular in London, have shown the depth of their anger and overall as a movement, we students have shown over the past few weeks our un-restrained opposition to the privatisation of education.

I was overjoyed to hear many people in London (on the news) talking about opposition to public sector cuts in general.

Our quasi-democratic, bourgeois Parliament may have voted through this groteque policy, but there are many more cuts that we simply will not let pass. This is the beginning, not the end, comrades.

[Impulse97]

What is a Torrie by British standards?

I only knew of the American definition of the Loyalist Americans during the rev.

[Burn A Flag]

Conservatives

[brigadista]

What is a Torrie by British standards?

I only knew of the American definition of the Loyalist Americans during the rev.

party of the bosses and their interests

[bawbag]

"A car containing Prince Charles and Camilla has been attacked by protesters in central London, in violent scenes after MPs voted to raise tuition fees in England to up to £9,000 per year.

A window was cracked and their car hit by paint, but the couple were unharmed.

In angry scenes, protesters have battled with police and attacked buildings, including the Treasury and the Supreme Court."

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/education-11954333

insane.

[Homage To Catalonia]

Winter of discontent

[Jazzhands]

"Now is the winter of our discontent,
Made glorious summer by this son of York.
And all the clouds that loured upon our house
In the deep bosom of the ocean buried."

:cool:

[brigadista]

really annoyed at the coverage of young black school students very angry as they stated they will lose their EMAs and be unable to attend school and college - referred to as "Volatile" they were damn angry and rightly so - they have the most to lose

[Obs]

I don't really think making jokes about dead cops or deporting Tories is particularly helpful here.
Now what do you have against dead cops?

[Homage To Catalonia]

now what do you have against dead cops?


awesome

[S.Artesian]

: Irish Republican News <[email protected]>
Date: 10 December 2010 08:13
Subject: Flash: Royal convoy attacked as English students revolt


>>>>>> Flash: Royal convoy attacked as English students revolt


A vehicle carrying 'Prince of Wales' Charles Windsor and his wife,
'Duchess of Cornwall' Camilla Parker-Bowles, was attacked by student
protesters in London amid heavy rioting in the city.

The royals were travelling to a high-profile caberet event in the
London Palladium tonight when they were targeted by protesters
demonstrating against the rise in tuition fees and other austerity
measures by the Tory-led British government.

A spokeswoman for the royal family said the pair were unharmed, but
their Rolls-Royce limousine was left with a badly-cracked
passenger-side rear window and was spattered with paint. A second
vehicle carrying aides and courtiers was also damaged in the attack.

Police in London said the student protests involved "increasing levels
of violence” following the vote in the Westminster parliament to
increase general student fees to up to 9,000 pounds (10,700 euro) per
annum, almost treble the current limit.

Earlier today, thousands of protestors were trapped by riot police in
Parliament Square as the debate on the new measures was taking place in
the House of Commons.

As confrontations intensified between protestors and police, members of
the Metropolitan Police horseback unit rushed the crowds, resulting in
a number of student injuries.

At various times through the afternoon's protests, which saw thousands
of students from universities across England descend upon central
London, riot police could be seen on live television assaulting,
clubbing, taunting, and riding horses into students.

Scores of protesters were injured in the violence, as well as ten
police, according to Scotland Yard.

After the vote, demonstrators broke down a door into Britain's Treasury
(finance ministry) and fought with police who were inside the building,
a witness said. They chanted "we want our money back" as they clashed
with officers before being driven back.

The measure to increase a cap on tuition fees is the first test of the
Conservative-Liberal Democrat coalition's ability to push through
painful austerity cuts as it seeks to eliminate a record budget
deficit.

British public anger at the Tory cuts have quickly surpassed Irish
levels, but it is unclear if it will escalate to levels seen in
crisis-hit Greece earlier this year


"God save the Queen
She ain't no human being
There is no future
In England's dreaming"
-Sex Pistols

"They'll be rockin' in the projects
Walkin' down along the strand
Freddy get ready
Rock Steady
And Johnny strikes up the band"
-Warren Zevon

"All hail then to the mob, the incarnation of progress!"

-James Connolly

[bricolage]

we are the crisis

[Palingenisis]

we are the crisis

Why do you say that?

[bricolage]

i like slogans

[Homage To Catalonia]

connolly is with us english as well as the fenian warriors.

fuck the capitalists and their bourgeoisie democracy.

[Lyev]

We were god-damn kettled in parliament square for the whole (cold) evening, and were lucky to get out just in time to get our bus back. The police were horrendous today; I saw many bleeding hands and heads. They should have been rounding up the real criminals - the thiefs and liars in Westminster - not a few rowdy students! As I haven't been to many protests before, and especially of this size, I don't really know if such police violence is the norm. Were they particularly bad today? And also, do we know roughly the number of protestors in attendence? Anyway, solidarity to all those still freezing their bollocks off out there, and well done to all those you took part in successful interventions. :)

[Red Commissar]

I wish I could've kicked the Prince's Rolls-Royce D:

[S.Artesian]

We were god-damn kettled in parliament square for the whole (cold) evening, and were lucky to get out just in time to get our bus back. The police were horrendous today; I saw many bleeding hands and heads. They should have been rounding up the real criminals - the thiefs and liars in Westminster - not a few rowdy students!

That would be biting the hand that feeds them. Police never go after real criminals.

Takes a revolution to do that.

[JustMovement]

protestors tried to storm the treasury. amazing. then ketteled for 10 hours. police definetly encouraged violence. protest was peaceful then suddenly for no reason they decided to kettle us. still peaceful for two hours and then shit kicked off because people were tired of standing in the cold. my theory is that police needed violence to justify not getting cut too much in the spending review. anyways after the police lied to us several times the police finally let us out of the kettle in parliament sq... only to be ketteled on london bridge. apparently people were passsing out from lack of food and the cold. the good people of the ucl occupation threw some food and water over the kettle kops thankfully. favourite chant: "dont stand shivering, throw a cop of the bridge!"

[JustMovement]

btw just got back, must havegotten out of the kettle at 10 30ish protest started at 11...

[gorillafuck]

party of the bosses and their interests
Just like Labour.

[Wanted Man]

http://static.guim.co.uk/sys-images/Admin/BkFill/Default_image_group/2010/12/9/1291930296034/Prince-Charles-Camilla-006.jpg

:lol:

[Manic Impressive]

I just heard that 1000 people are still kettled on London Bridge. I can't be sure it's correct but if it is then WTF

[IndependentCitizen]

Was anyone there when the mounted police charged into us? Shit kicked off and the idiots went into the crowd far too deep and got majorly attacked.

[Fulanito de Tal]

When I read the title of this thread, I was like, "Yes! And they give you an attitude if you ever make a mistake in class!" but then I realized this wasn't a TA forum :(

[Bardo]

I think American tuitions are higher than in the UK even after the hike. Around here if you're not exceptionally wealthy you must first surrender to debt if you want to be educated. The American dream in action.

[brigadista]

quote from the young black school students i mentioned earlier who will lose their EMAs

"We're from the slums of London, what's gonna happen now, how we gonna pay £9k, how we gonna go to university now, there taking away our EMA's, now what's gonna stop us from dealing drugs on the streets"

[StockholmSyndrome]

I saw a 17 year old on the news saying, "The banks caused this, and we have to pay for it!" to a reporter. It made me smile. If only kids over here in the States were that lucid. Anyways, I extend my solidarity to all people who want and deserve an education in the UK.

[Manic Impressive]

"deserve an education"???

[bricolage]

I got out of the kettle at about 8 when they were letting people out one by one. Did they close it again after that?

[bricolage]

As I haven't been to many protests before, and especially of this size, I don't really know if such police violence is the norm. Were they particularly bad today?
I think they were. I saw kids couldn't have been more than sixteen blood all down their heads.
And I'd be interested to hear the last time there were charges on horses like that in this country, one video I saw said you'd have to go back to the Poll Tax Riots or Miners Strike.

[bricolage]

A 20-year-old student was left unconscious with bleeding on the brain after a police officer hit him on the head with a truncheon, his mother said today.http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/crime/brain-op-for-student-hit-by-truncheon-2156207.html

[bricolage]

Going beyond the police violence and analysing the movement itself. Obviously there was a lot of disappointment when the vote went through, especially from the sixth formers, but I didn't see any indication that any of them were looking to stop fighting the government. Obviously there are limitations; is this just going to be recuperated by the Labour Party, is it going to extend beyond the education sector... But I don't think we can underestimate the way this has radicalised a whole generation of young people, and sure young people are always the most 'radical', but this lot, man, ok I might be getting caught up in it all but these kids are next level I swear. I'm 22 and I've never felt older. When was the last time anyone heard 16 year olds talking about a general strike? (cue stories of said sixteen year olds...)

[Admiral Swagmeister G-Funk]

I'm sick of how the media are reporting this, having the cheek to call the kettling a 'response to violence'. More like the violence was a response to the kettling! Which was entirely justified also. They started kettling us the minute we got to Parliament, although some of us gave them the run around :p.

The police deserved the kicking they got at Parliament Square, and many of us got out thanks to our methods of opposing the kettle with force. I feel for the people who were kept until late at night though, we need to be more militant in opposing the tactics of the police next time.

EDIT: I mean to say that the violence against the kettle was justified, but it looked as if I was implying that the kettle was justified, which I don't think for one minute.

[Kayser_Soso]

I was watching this live on Euronews from Moscow. As they lifted those fence sections and threw them at the cops I felt like a football fan watching the superbowl.

[bricolage]

Ok, so his comments on dubstep are a bit cringeworthy but still this is quite an interesting write up;
http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/newsnight/paulmason/2010/12/9122010_dubstep_rebellion_-_br.html

[Nothing Human Is Alien]

Was anyone there when the mounted police charged into us? Shit kicked off and the idiots went into the crowd far too deep and got majorly attacked.

Good thing no one threw glass marbles on the ground. That could have ended up in something unfortunate like an injury to the mounties.

[bawbag]

And what happens now?

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-11969030

The Etionian twat that is our Prime Minister is calling for those who attacked the car of Prince Charles to be arrested and dealt with.

He wants the revolutionaries, the people who stand for what is right, to be put in jail! Protecting the bankers and the corrupt MPs who put us in the mess that we are suffering for, the crimes they committed go unpunished but for hitting back, taking the matter into their own hands and standing up for themselves it is the students who will be punished.

Where is the logic in this?
What is right about this?
How can someone defend such hypocrisy?

[IndependentCitizen]

I couldn't believe they allowed this march to end in Parliament square. Was a dream come true, because the Treasury was literally unguarded almost all day!

I love how the media's ignoring the police aggression (which was evident on live streaming), students who were knocked unconcious and instead paniced about Horse face, and Mr wannaba-green.

[IndependentCitizen]

I just heard that 1000 people are still kettled on London Bridge. I can't be sure it's correct but if it is then WTF
We were kettled there for 2 hours, no news corp reported it.

I think it was in retaliation to the royals being attacked.

[Kayser_Soso]

It's too bad the guys on the ground didn't have the aerial view we were watching on TV. I saw some points when it looked like the cops could have been outflanked and surrounded.

[Crux]

Yeah, you guys should get a chopper and set up radio contact.

[Vladimir Innit Lenin]

It's definitely something to work on. Students in occupation should be on the phone and with a TV set so that they can tactically inform students at demos of where they might find a weak spot in police defences.

[IndependentCitizen]

It's definitely something to work on. Students in occupation should be on the phone and with a TV set so that they can tactically inform students at demos of where they might find a weak spot in police defences.

Completely agree with this :)

[Invader Zim]

I think if anything the violence in this protest wasn't as much on the part of the students, but rather the police who behaved with utter brutality. To quote one girl who commented on the Guardian website:

"
Violent thugs? I am a 21-year-old literature student and I am a protester. I danced to music on Parliament Square as people spray painted NO on the grass, I shouted 'tory **** tory ****' with pride, I got pushed to the police front line and charged by horses on two occasions (please see footage of charges on 24th (http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2010/nov/26/police-student-protests-horses-charge) and 9th (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-11962905)). I am not ashamed.
If you want to look at thugs then look to to the police.
I am a girl of five foot two, I was pushed several times in the face, dragged on the floor and laughed at by police when I told them I had asthma. This is why people get angry, because people were being trapped and wanted to get out.
All afternoon we were told people were able to leave from various places but this was just not true.
I asked a policeman were I could go to the toilet; he pointed at the floor by his feet.
Another shouted: "Move, *****, or I'll squash you with my horse."
Eventually, when the protests had died down and people were desperate to go home, a group of around 1,000 protesters were finally escorted to Westminster Bridge to exit; however this was a trick. What then happened was we were held on the bridge for hours in the freezing cold. The crowd remained calm, but after hours of freezing people began to chant "let us out" and then the crowd pushed forwards. Being small I was carried by the crowd and ended up by the police line. I was tired and cold and hadn't eaten for 12 hours or had any water.
I screamed at the police not to hurt me because I was being pushed but they still went for my face, almost pulling me to the floor. A man to my right put his arms over my face, screaming, "Leave her alone, she's a girl, she's not harming you," but the police began to hit him several times on the head.
When we were finally let off the bridge it was one at a time through huge crowds of jeering officers. We were told we were being photographed in case we had damaged royal car. But how this could have happened whilst we were kettled in parliament i don't know.

What I will say is that by this stage the anarchists had fought their way out, and just lots of women and children were left to freeze."


- raindance77


http://www.guardian.co.uk/education/blog/2010/dec/10/tuition-fees-protests-charles-camilla-attack-aftermath-live

[Milk Sheikh]

One question from a very distant observer: do British people generally love the royalty?

[IndependentCitizen]

One question from a very distant observer: do British people generally love the royalty?

Used too, however there has been a surge in membership of the Republican movement since the announcement of the royal wedding. The only ones who seem to care about the monarchy are the conservatives in this country.

[Sasha]

sheesh, saw the headlines on the tabloids just now "royals attacked by yobs" and not much else, for fuck sake some armored rolls got some paint on it and an bulletproof window cracked. what about the 17 year old kid who had his brain smashed in?
seems that the classwar is still very much alive in british society.

[IronEastBloc]

OP, what sort of serious leftist do you fancy yourself when your profile's "location" has a link to a commercial porn site?

[Homage To Catalonia]

Iron East Bloc sounds like a reject from MSH lool

[Stranger Than Paradise]

WHO'S KETTLING WHO? WE'RE KETTLING YOU!

The book bloc was nice to see, future protests need to include more of the same.

https://london.indymedia.org/system/photo/2010/12/09/5361/470190.jpg

[StockholmSyndrome]

"deserve an education"???

Syntax nazi much? Of course I believe all people deserve an education. The point is that many people who want an education will have a hard time getting what they deserve for financial reasons.

[pastradamus]

Did anyone see that policeman get run over by his own horse? priceless!:laugh:

[Stranger Than Paradise]

Did anyone see that policeman get run over by his own horse? priceless!:laugh:

Oh yes, that was funny. Also loved to see the policemen who got covered in blue and pink paint.

[RedAnarchist]

sheesh, saw the headlines on the tabloids just now "royals attacked by yobs" and not much else, for fuck sake some armored rolls got some paint on it and an bulletproof window cracked. what about the 17 year old kid who had his brain smashed in?
seems that the classwar is still very much alive in british society.

Typical hypocrisy of the media - they'll make fun of the royals when they want to sell a few papers, but when someone else actually makes these inbred parasites get a taste of reality, they condemn it because they know it'll sell a few papers. Also, for many of the more conservative papers it's a way of making all the protesters look bad and the coalition look good.

[Stranger Than Paradise]

sheesh, saw the headlines on the tabloids just now "royals attacked by yobs" and not much else, for fuck sake some armored rolls got some paint on it and an bulletproof window cracked. what about the 17 year old kid who had his brain smashed in?
seems that the classwar is still very much alive in british society.

Oh yeah the class war has been made visible by the Coalition, they've openly attempted to attack the whole class at once basically. All the young students that are still at school who are at these protests are mostly working class and really fucking pissed at losing their EMA. This has in general been where the most interesting actions of the last protests have emanated from.

[bawbag]

Amid recent weeks of student ager towards the government, cuts and the bankers, my university has decided to put a bank in the foyer of one of the buildings.

Isn't that adding insult to injury?

I saw it today and really wanted to smash it all up.

[human strike]

Was anyone there when the mounted police charged into us? Shit kicked off and the idiots went into the crowd far too deep and got majorly attacked.

Aye, I was there.

Reports of fash in the crowds beating up random protesters. Something to look out for. Seen red watch out and about more lately too.

[brigadista]

Going beyond the police violence and analysing the movement itself. Obviously there was a lot of disappointment when the vote went through, especially from the sixth formers, but I didn't see any indication that any of them were looking to stop fighting the government. Obviously there are limitations; is this just going to be recuperated by the Labour Party, is it going to extend beyond the education sector... But I don't think we can underestimate the way this has radicalised a whole generation of young people, and sure young people are always the most 'radical', but this lot, man, ok I might be getting caught up in it all but these kids are next level I swear. I'm 22 and I've never felt older. When was the last time anyone heard 16 year olds talking about a general strike? (cue stories of said sixteen year olds...)

I support all the students but the students losing their EMAs have nothing to lose now if they protest and the students i know getting EMAs are furious because they see their future disappearing.. they have no fall back options or parents that can financially support them- education can be power -EMA supported students know this

[brigadista]

Just like Labour.

of course but the tories dont hide it...:):)

[nuisance]

Reports of fash in the crowds beating up random protesters. Something to look out for. Seen red watch out and about more lately too.
What reports?

[Admiral Swagmeister G-Funk]

Aye, I was there.

Reports of fash in the crowds beating up random protesters. Something to look out for. Seen red watch out and about more lately too.
I heard about some fash fighting with some students but haven't seen any reports. Fucking scum bags.

[Stranger Than Paradise]

What reports?

My friend got chased by 20 people at the protest and the reports said they were twenty of them, they attacked him with sticks from placards. Who else would fucking do that? They were there.

[Broletariat]

My friend got chased by 20 people at the protest and the reports said they were twenty of them, they attacked him with sticks from placards. Who else would fucking do that? They were there.
Not that I doubt you or anything, but I'd like a link to pass around.

[Stranger Than Paradise]

Not that I doubt you or anything, but I'd like a link to pass around.


11.34am: A reader who wishes only to be identified as Gary sends this disturbing account that he wrote after returning home from the protests last night:

I just got home after attending the embers of the protest at the end of Victoria Street. While there I got chatting to a 17year-old girl. A while later a group of people who I believe to be neo-Nazis turned up and started causing trouble. They were trying to start on an old man of about 60. A policeman calmed him down. They then started picking on this girl. They all started to scream "****!" at her and she called them this back. The group (about 12-15) walked up to her in a very menacing way. We backed off towards the police and then one of the group pushed the girl violently in the head, causing her to fall down on her back. I pulled her away to the police and asked for help. Two of them smirked at each other and one said: "You wanted free speech." They then continued to watch as the neo-Nazis caused trouble. This occurred at around 7pm.


About 20 chanting #edl etc outside kettle by Wminster Abbey/QEII centre. Now telling a "student slag","fuck off to your own country" #day3x

http://www.guardian.co.uk/education/blog/2010/dec/10/tuition-fees-protests-charles-camilla-attack-aftermath-live?intcmp=239

http://twitter.com/piombo/status/12943915086778368

[Stranger Than Paradise]

Daily Mail Poll: Do you still support the students after these riots? 60% yes

[IndependentCitizen]

I heard about some fash fighting with some students but haven't seen any reports. Fucking scum bags.

Yeah, I've heard reports too. I heard they were kicking off in Whitehall...

[IndependentCitizen]

Daily Mail Poll: Do you still support the students after these riots? 60% yes

Deep inside the ultra-conservatives, there's a part of them that says
'Fuck yeah, revolution'

[Sasha]

Police must not be seen as arm of the state, warns top officer

Sir Hugh Orde warns that repeated clashes with demonstrators risks damaging reputation of police force




Vikram Dodd (http://www.guardian.co.uk/profile/vikramdodd), crime correspondent
guardian.co.uk (http://www.guardian.co.uk/), Friday 10 December 2010 20.58 GMT <li class="history">Article history (http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2010/dec/10/police-tuition-fees-protests-orde#history-link-box) http://static.guim.co.uk/sys-images/Guardian/Pix/pictures/2010/12/10/1292014519217/Sir-Hugh-Orde-006.jpg Sir Hugh Orde, president of Acpo, was praised for his work policing divided communities in Northern Ireland. Photograph: David Levene for the Guardian Police (http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/police) fear becoming the focus of public anger at government cuts and that repeated clashes with demonstrators risk damaging their reputation, a top officer has told the Guardian.
Sir Hugh Orde, president of the Association of Chief Police Officers, said it was crucial that police do not appear to be "an arm of the state" who are being used to allow the government to "impose cuts".
His comments came as the Metropolitan police force faced questions over its handling of violent student protests.
Police expect a string of future demonstrations as government spending cuts begin to bite. While they have started with students, public sector workers are facing mass sackings.
Past protests have damaged the police's reputation with sections of the community, notably the 1980s miners' strike.
Asked if there was a danger to the police's reputation by repeated clashes at demonstrations, Orde told the Guardian: "Yes, if it is allowed to be played as the cops acting as an arm of the state, delivering the elected government's will, rather than protecting the rights of the citizen.
"We need to be clear we are doing it as operationally independent, and not subject to influence by anyone as to how we do it.
"As long as that is maintained we can rebut any allegations that we are doing what we are told by our political masters to advance a political agenda. The police are not against anybody."
Orde, who was praised when he was in charge of policing divided communities in Northern Ireland, said of the expected protests: "The predictable consequence is that the police become the focus of people's anger. Any time citizens in uniform comes up against the citizen, relationships suffer."
A former top Scotland Yard officer said police must develop new tactics if they are to stop protesters rampaging through London's streets.
The Metropolitan police deployed an array of tactics to try to stop violence, but failed when small groups of demonstrators managed to outmanoeuvre them. The chief tactic used was kettling, where sections of the crowd are penned into an area, or contained, as police try to maintain order.
But the former Met deputy assistant commissioner Brian Paddick said: "The protesters seem to have learned, by doing this on a weekly basis, how to outmanoeuvre the containment tactics. They splinter into smaller groups, running at speed en masse, rather than staying in one group.
"There needs to be a radical rethink. I can not see how conventional police tactics can contain this level of violent demonstration."
Scotland Yard faced a series of questions over the riot that marred the protests, which also saw a student left with serious head injuries after being struck by a truncheon.
Police were under pressure on three fronts following the violence. The first was the attack on the royal car, which was one of the most serious breaches of royal security in years.
The second was the loss of control of the streets of the capital, with attacks on the Treasury, supreme court, a Christmas tree in Trafalgar Square and other properties in central London.
The third front on which police were being challenged was the alleged mistreatment of protesters, ranging from allegations of brutality to the "kettling". Police said 33 people had been arrested during the protests. A Met spokesperson said: "The majority of these people have been bailed pending further inquiries. Some remain in custody at central London police stations. None have been charged at present."
Tonight Scotland Yard announced a major criminal investigation into student demonstrations over the last month.





source: http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2010/dec/10/police-tuition-fees-protests-orde

ohnoh, god forbid the people see the cops as arm of the state :rolleyes:

[Struggle]

It was fucking incredible, I was there, and this shalt be the last.

There hasn't been anything like it in terms of the many protests I have been to.

For much of this day, it was more like a resistance rather than a protest.

However, what the people need for demonstrations like this is an organised group who are highly motivated and determined people. All too often people ran away from the people as there was a huge lack of organisation on the whole.

The people need leadership at these demonstrations, militant leadership.

[Kayser_Soso]

source: http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2010/dec/10/police-tuition-fees-protests-orde

ohnoh, god forbid the people see the cops as arm of the state :rolleyes:

Yeah, everyone knows that cops don't work for the State.

[Red Commissar]

Boston has some pictures compiled in their "big picture" section:

http://www.boston.com/bigpicture/2010/12/london_tuition_fee_protest.html

http://inapcache.boston.com/universal/site_graphics/blogs/bigpicture/londonprotest_12_10/l01_26265027.jpg
http://inapcache.boston.com/universal/site_graphics/blogs/bigpicture/londonprotest_12_10/l04_26264305.jpg
http://inapcache.boston.com/universal/site_graphics/blogs/bigpicture/londonprotest_12_10/l05_26263901.jpg
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Some shit heads in the comments, but the photos are nice. I see a nice amount of red flags too :)

[Wanted Man]

"F**K FEES"? Seriously? Do you get arrested in England if you use naughty words on your signs?

[Kayser_Soso]

It was fucking incredible, I was there, and this shalt be the last.

There hasn't been anything like it in terms of the many protests I have been to.

For much of this day, it was more like a resistance rather than a protest.

However, what the people need for demonstrations like this is an organised group who are highly motivated and determined people. All too often people ran away from the people as there was a huge lack of organisation on the whole.

The people need leadership at these demonstrations, militant leadership.

In general, leftist demonstrations need less music and dancing, paper mache puppets, and performance art- in short, things that are entertaining for the protesters themselves, but don't necessarily send a coherent message or accomplish anything.

[Rosa Lichtenstein]

WM:


"F**K FEES"? Seriously? Do you get arrested in England if you use naughty words on your signs?

Yes.

[IndependentCitizen]

"F**K FEES"? Seriously? Do you get arrested in England if you use naughty words on your signs?

Yeah, we can. Under section 5, part b of the public order act. I don't care if there's censorship, everyone knows what they're saying. So I don't think it matters too much.

In general, leftist demonstrations need less music and dancing, paper mache puppets, and performance art- in short, things that are entertaining for the protesters themselves, but don't necessarily send a coherent message or accomplish anything.

You're joking right? That entertainment kept morale high. If it wasn't for the music and dancing. I think people would have literally just given up and then the police would have won.

I think the music, dancing and etc is vital for protests. It keeps spirits high, and if you were there - you would have noticed that people didn't care who you were, they'd pass the joint around. They'd dance with you, and etc. The type of bondship protesters need, not constant hostility. There was a large force battling with the police, but they all needed rest too. I noticed that when some left the fighting, there was also a replacement group.

Also, I think the music also got a lot of people hyped up. Especially at the first major skirmish where the police charged us. I don't think I've seen so many pumped up people before, even the small girl who seemed really laid back was gagging for a bit of action with the police - protip: don't mess with angry women, they're scary :lol:.

In all, I think the music and etc is vital...

[Ninel]

Our school lied to us, (In Ireland by the way) there was a protest on Thursday 9th and Students would march from Queens University to Belfast City Hall. I was somewhat late for tutor group (role call) and my tutor knows of my left wing views so as I entered the room he said "Ross, hurry up and sit down, this applies to you, you have communist views", so I sat down and he proceeded to tell us these lies of how the march was illegal etc. due to it not being commissioned by the parades commission (Why would the parades commission allow an anti-government march to occurr?). I was infuriated later on the news when I heard of how there were school pupils there because their school let them as their parents gave letters to the school.

[Kayser_Soso]

You're joking right? That entertainment kept morale high. If it wasn't for the music and dancing. I think people would have literally just given up and then the police would have wo

I think the music, dancing and etc is vital for protests. It keeps spirits high, and if you were there - you would have noticed that people didn't care who you were, they'd pass the joint around. They'd dance with you, and etc. The type of bondship protesters need, not constant hostility. There was a large force battling with the police, but they all needed rest too. I noticed that when some left the fighting, there was also a replacement group.

Also, I think the music also got a lot of people hyped up. Especially at the first major skirmish where the police charged us. I don't think I've seen so many pumped up people before, even the small girl who seemed really laid back was gagging for a bit of action with the police - protip: don't mess with angry women, they're scary :lol:.

In all, I think the music and etc is vital...

It keeps protestors happy because it is entertaining for them. Let me ask you this- what music were the cops playing when they beat you? Class struggle is war. Music is for rallies and parties.

[IronEastBloc]

It keeps protestors happy because it is entertaining for them. Let me ask you this- what music were the cops playing when they beat you? Class struggle is war. Music is for rallies and parties.

When will people get through their heads that paper mache puppets, dancing, street theatre and antics doesn't topple an oppressive government? How far do you think the old bolsheviks would've gotten in White Russia if they stood outside the Czar's palace holding signs and chanting slogans and dancing and wearing costumes?

hell, the government is probably breathing a sigh of relief to see that's the only threat they face from the so-called "leftists"!

I agree with Kayser.

[Stranger Than Paradise]

However, what the people need for demonstrations like this is an organised group who are highly motivated and determined people. All too often people ran away from the people as there was a huge lack of organisation on the whole.

The people need leadership at these demonstrations, militant leadership.

The 'militant leadership' tried that at the start of the march by talking the talk in their speeches. Thankfully someone saw sense and started chanting march and we actually started moving.

The best things to come out of the march (the treasury and supreme court being smashed) were not organised by a militant leadership. They were sparked by working class students.

It's not hard to stop people running either just shout stand your ground, I did this a few times and everyone seemed to do the same.

[brigadista]

FBBByt39l98

[Quail]

This talk of 'militant leadership' is elitist bollocks. The working class can organise themselves and they don't need anyone to lead them. As Stranger Than Paradise said, the good things that came out of the protest were sparked by working class people.

[Lyev]

I heard about some fash fighting with some students but haven't seen any reports. Fucking scum bags.Oh my god, I didn't realise they were fascists... that's alarming but also enlightening. Me and my friends encountered these thugs; at least we were lucky enough to not get hurt ourselves. I was just chatting to an SWP'er about their differences with the CWI, and then suddenly we saw about 5-10 angry looking guys with dressed in dark clothes with hoods over their heads beating up random protestors, with sticks and kicking them on the floor. Luckily they were heavily outnumbered by other people their who intervened, but in trying to stop their thuggery, you were at risk yourself of getting beaten up. They soon left, probably to target some other unfortunate bystander. Anyway, thanks for the clarification; I thought they were just random hooligans beating up people for the sake of it.

EDIT: what is it with people comdemning fellow leftists and protestors for playing music and having a fun time? If we all just sat around, seriously chatting about the economy for the whole demo then we would probably get about 100 people showing up; not 100000. I agree, it 's all part of the atmosphere, and provides a lift for protestor morale.

[Admiral Swagmeister G-Funk]

Oh my god, I didn't realise they were fascists... that's alarming but also enlightening. Me and my friends encountered these thugs; at least we were lucky enough to not get hurt ourselves. I was just chatting to an SWP'er about their differences with the CWI, and then suddenly we saw about 5-10 angry looking guys with dressed in dark clothes with hoods over their heads beating up random protestors, with sticks and kicking them on the floor. Luckily they were heavily outnumbered by other people their who intervened, but in trying to stop their thuggery, you were at risk yourself of getting beaten up. They soon left, probably to target some other unfortunate bystander. Anyway, thanks for the clarification; I thought they were just random hooligans beating up people for the sake of it.
I can't clarify for sure, but word of mouth tells me that there were fascists that were behind these attacks! Surely there will be a report on it soon.

[Invader Zim]

Deep inside the ultra-conservatives, there's a part of them that says
'Fuck yeah, revolution'

Or perhaps have children approaching university age?

[Steve_j]

This talk of 'militant leadership' is elitist bollocks. The working class can organise themselves and they don't need anyone to lead them.

This ^
They are doing just fine without the advice of all the killjoys on here.

The youth on the street should and will decide how and what their actions consist of.

[Steve_j]

Or perhaps have children approaching university age?

The link to the poll was published on indymedia, along with instructions for repeat votes.
A bunch of mail readers just got trolled :)

[Stranger Than Paradise]

It keeps protestors happy because it is entertaining for them. Let me ask you this- what music were the cops playing when they beat you? Class struggle is war. Music is for rallies and parties.

Keeping your spirits high and showing to the cops you won't give up is what music and dancing portrays. Keep in mind that the cops have now kettled protestors twice for over nine hours each time. It would be much less tolerable, especially towards the end, if there was no music.

[nuisance]

My friend got chased by 20 people at the protest and the reports said they were twenty of them, they attacked him with sticks from placards. Who else would fucking do that? They were there.
There's also this- http://www.indymedia.org.uk/en/2010/12/470442.html

[nuisance]

This talk of 'militant leadership' is elitist bollocks. The working class can organise themselves and they don't need anyone to lead them. As Stranger Than Paradise said, the good things that came out of the protest were sparked by working class people.
Though true, I reckon it's important for anarchists to pass out leaflets or whatever detailing types of organisation and the sensiblity of masking up on demos, especially ones that are likely to kick off- for example affinty groups and buddy systems. These can be used to not only provide enhanced safety and teams that can act together against cops and fash violence, aswell as being far more effective at resisting kettles than getting stuck in often futile pitched battles with robo-cops.
For example the idea of the book bloc is good, but it does also slow down any force which hopes to be fluid, to avoid cops in the first place.

[Kayser_Soso]

Keeping your spirits high and showing to the cops you won't give up is what music and dancing portrays. .

Maybe that's what it portrays to you. What it portrays to the people watching, the people who need to be reached, is that you're having lots of fun.

[bailey_187]

When will people get through their heads that paper mache puppets, dancing, street theatre and antics doesn't topple an oppressive government? How far do you think the old bolsheviks would've gotten in White Russia if they stood outside the Czar's palace holding signs and chanting slogans and dancing and wearing costumes?

If the Bolsheviks had listend to Tempa T's Next Hype song, October would have happend much earlier

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[nuisance]

The Bolsheviks did far more for the workers of the region, and for the world, than anarchists ever have, or ever will. When your allegedly superior alternative to capitalism can actually create a large-scale, self-sustaining society with a comparable standard of living to a developed capitalist country, the workers will consider anarchism.
Get with the times, your ideology is a joke and has fuck all to do with anything occurring in the UK at the moment.
What we are instead seeing is the adoption of anarchist methods, property destruction, assemblies, occupations, and general non-hierarhical organisation by a flourishing student movement that is now being influenced by inner city gangs.
So, stop with your 'the workers' rhetoric, its embarassing and bares no relationship to the times we are living in.

[IndependentCitizen]

FBBByt39l98
That was a powerful song, I'm never one for rap. But that was truly brilliant.

And for the Tempz video, who cannot love him, his music is genius.

[rednordman]

I totally respect and appreciate ALL of the demonstrations (and destruction for that matter) but also regret the recessive use of the 'f' word.

[Manic Impressive]

“If I can't dance - I don't want to be part of your revolution”.

Emma Goldman

[brigadista]

That was a powerful song, I'm never one for rap. But that was truly brilliant.

And for the Tempz video, who cannot love him, his music is genius.

from the heart and the head

if you go to the youtube link you will get the credits
and if you are involved in the student protest pass it on!!:) put it on your facebook...

music is powerful....

[Ninel]

I think music is important as it portrays the anger of many right now, though personally I'd like different music to what's already been posted for example when demonstrators attacked Charles and Camilla's vehicle it would be awesome to have 'God Save the Queen' by the Sex pistols playing :lol:.

[Manic Impressive]

What you are essentially "choosing" is capitalism.
Dude seriously no one except you wants to turn a thread about an ongoing struggle which many of us are directly involved in to be turned into a tendency war and it's all been good until now. Take your sectarian bull shit elsewhere as right now we in Britain need unity.

[S.Artesian]

I think music is important as it portrays the anger of many right now, though personally I'd like different music to what's already been posted for example when demonstrators attacked Charles and Camilla's vehicle it would be awesome to have 'God Save the Queen' by the Sex pistols playing :lol:.

Couldn't agree more. Or "Pretty Vacant." Or Sham 69's "If the Kids Are United"

[brigadista]

Couldn't agree more. Or "Pretty Vacant." Or Sham 69's "If the Kids Are United"

the thing is those are old tunes and people are listening to different things now but i dont disagree

[Ninel]

But the old punk tunes are probably the most political with some modern rappers put aside.

[brigadista]

But the old punk tunes are probably the most political with some modern rappers put aside.

well people are making new music for this time- I just posted some- and the more resistance gathers the better the music will get, but i'm not dissing anyone's musical choice because i don't do that - there was dubstep on the protest in london...

[Rosa Lichtenstein]

Kayser:


Let me ask you this- what music were the cops playing when they beat you? Class struggle is war.

The cops get sacked if they diosobey orders. We don't.


Music is for rallies and parties.

Was this written on some stone tablets you found on top of a mountain somewhere?

IronEastBlock:


When will people get through their heads that paper mache puppets, dancing, street theatre and antics doesn't topple an oppressive government? How far do you think the old bolsheviks would've gotten in White Russia if they stood outside the Czar's palace holding signs and chanting slogans and dancing and wearing costumes?

hell, the government is probably breathing a sigh of relief to see that's the only threat they face from the so-called "leftists"!

I agree with Kayser.

Yes, and we all know how 'successful' you miserable sods were in defending your 'workers' states' between 1953-1990, don't we?:lol:

[IndependentCitizen]

Regardless of what ideology has succeeded in, what relevance does it have to Royals being attacked? The treasury being smashed up? And so on...

[Red Commissar]

Regardless of what ideology has succeeded in, what relevance does it have to Royals being attacked? The treasury being smashed up? And so on...

Out of curiosity, how did the royals react to that? Did they race off or were they moved to another vehicle?

[bailey_187]

Out of curiosity, how did the royals react to that? Did they race off or were they moved to another vehicle?

raced off to the event they were on way to. their protection said they were seconds from drawing their guns. camila had her window open for some reason and was apparently stabbed in the ribs with a stick by someone :lol::lol:

[Ninel]

Regardless of what ideology has succeeded in, what relevance does it have to Royals being attacked? The treasury being smashed up? And so on...
Anger.

[Sasha]

Verbal warning to kayser_soso.

stop derailing this thread with offtopic sectarian shit. offtopic stuff moved to here: http://www.revleft.com/vb/sectarian-shitfest-no-t146443/index.html
post something like this
Originally Posted by Kayser_Soso
That is why it is alright to shoot anarchists as agents for capitalism. Repeat their lies, offer an "alternative" that can't possibly exist nor threaten capitalism = working for capitalism. again and you will be infracted

[Ninel]

I think this thread should be continued. When is the next London demonstration and next Belfast demonstration.

[Octopus]

I think it's truly beautiful to see this kind of re-action from Students across Britain, one good video I saw (It might of been from this thread, actually) was of the protesters marching down the streets whilst cars honked in approval, to me that symbolized a sense of unity I haven't seen throughout the streets of London (Albeit trivial).

Hopefully this escalates to more and the coalition Government fails, It pains me to see that Cameron calling the students "thugs" just because they didn't want to subdue to his social engineering bullshit.

[TheGeekySocialist]

the protest itself was pretty good fun, the crazy stuff happened at parliament square because police blocked us off and then kettled people and used horses and shit, most of the violence was a reaction to the police, not the other way around.

the media coverage as I said in the other thread is disgusting, fuck the royal car man, if anything its a shame the windows stayed intact! theres people in hospital and stuff, but all the british media vermin care about is the window of a rolls royce that belongs to two of the richest pieces of shit in the country.

[Ninel]

Lol, I like how they had an 'armoured limosine'.

[Rosa Lichtenstein]

^^^They need protecting from their 'loyal' subjects.:lol:

[Ninel]

As an Irishman it gives me great pleasure to see that even the British dislike their monarches now.

[Manic Impressive]

I think this thread should be continued. When is the next London demonstration and next Belfast demonstration.
http://www.facebook.com/#!/event.php?eid=153446144701841
Protest to defend EMA

13 December · 16:00 - 20:30
LocationDepartment for Business, Innovation and Skills (http://www.facebook.com/pages/Department-for-Business-Innovation-and-Skills/145222978853271)1 Victoria St
London, United Kingdom


http://www.facebook.com/event.php?eid=147878345261748&num_event_invites=0

and just saw this as well
Peaceful Protest @ New Scotland Yard, London. Tuesday 1pm. For Alfie. Please wear a hard hat.


I have no idea about Belfast sorry

I think we should have a stickyed thread for advertising upcoming protests. I missed the first one as I didn't know it was happening.

[Ninel]

I doubt my parents would let me attend as I am 14, but I wonder if police would beat a child. Also can you summarise those events? (I don't have facebook).

[El Rojo]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eQdYxXyUJkQ&feature=player_embedded

best footage of the battle for parliament square. i was there and it was fucking mental. in a nutshell: i saw the most solidarity and altruistic behaviour and also the most aggressive, hateful, violent behaviour i have ever seen in human beings.

may i particularly recommend 13:25

[Manic Impressive]

I doubt my parents would let me attend as I am 14, but I wonder if police would beat a child. Also can you summarise those events? (I don't have facebook).
The police would definitely beat a child, a pregnant woman, a disabled man or anyone. Perhaps if you explain to your parents how important this is to you one of them might accompany you. Are you in Belfast? If so i'll keep an eye out for events there and pm you if I see anything.

EMA
After the vote on tuition fees, the next battle will be to stop the scrapping of the Education Maintenance Allowance.

A coalition of unions including NUS, NUT, UCU, UNISON, ATL, GMB and Unite will be holding a day of action, with lunchtime protests across the country.

In London the Education Activist Network, supported by the London Region of UCU, has called for a demonstration to defend EMA in front of the Department for Business, Innovation and Skills. This will be followed by a public meeting

UK Uncut presents - PAY DAY

18 December · 10:00 - 19:00
http://www.ukuncut.org.uk/

and the last one was for the young guy who got put in hospital by the filth and suffered bleeding on the brain

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/crime/brain-op-for-student-hit-by-truncheon-2156207.html

you might want to set up a fb account even if you don't use your real name or any real details about yourself it's a useful tool for keeping up to date with the upcoming events.

[Manic Impressive]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eQdYxXyUJkQ&feature=player_embedded

best footage of the battle for parliament square. i was there and it was fucking mental. in a nutshell: i saw the most solidarity and altruistic behaviour and also the most aggressive, hateful, violent behaviour i have ever seen in human beings.

may i particularly recommend 13:25
Yeah I saw that already it's awesome I've seen a few of that guys videos here's a funny one where him and his mate tells everyone that everything is ok

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qAQrsA3m8Bg (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qAQrsA3m8Bg)

[Obs]

I doubt my parents would let me attend as I am 14, but I wonder if police would beat a child.
You should probably assume that they would.

[scarletghoul]

love the Adorno shield :laugh:

[Homage To Catalonia]

http://s2.hubimg.com/u/4251021_f520.jpg

[bailey_187]

^damn

this recognisable face must have been arrested already im guessing

[Pretty Flaco]

Many of my fellow students in the US are too illusioned with the current state of things to actually fight against the cuts which have plagued the education system in recent years.

Best of luck across the pond. :)

[Manic Impressive]

http://s2.hubimg.com/u/4251021_f520.jpg
Dude don't post pictures of me WTF :sneaky:

[Ninel]

http://s2.hubimg.com/u/4251021_f520.jpg

Who is that guy? Also Manic I am in Belfast and if you could notify me that would be great. I don't have facebook as the majority of males me age have it because they are desperate for a girlfriend which I find sad. About the issue with my parents 1. My Dad completely disagrees with my political viewpoint and 2. They would both be worried incase I got hurt due or earned a criminal record (I would probably be peaceful though and would only use violence to defend myself from police brutality).
Thanks,
Ross Ninel

[KC]

Who is that guy? Also Manic I am in Belfast and if you could notify me that would be great. I don't have facebook as the majority of males me age have it because they are desperate for a girlfriend which I find sad. About the issue with my parents 1. My Dad completely disagrees with my political viewpoint and 2. They would both be worried incase I got hurt due or earned a criminal record (I would probably be peaceful though and would only use violence to defend myself from police brutality).
Thanks,
Ross Ninel http://www.revleft.com/vb/revleft/buttons/quote.gif (http://www.revleft.com/vb/newreply.php?do=newreply&p=1956187)

Go anyways, even if you get in trouble it will be worth it.

Does any footage exist of the royal car getting attacked?

[Manic Impressive]

Who is that guy? It's a picture of me i'm wanted by the po po I wish people would stop posting it :ohmy:


Also Maniac I am in Belfast and if you could notify me that would be great. I don't have facebook as the majority of males me age have it because they are desperate for a girlfriend which I find sad.Make a fake account call yourself Farty Mcfarty Pants don't add anyone you know and only use it to follow things that are useful like when and where protests will be.


About the issue with my parents 1. My Dad completely disagrees with my political viewpoint and 2. They would both be worried incase I got hurt due or earned a criminal record (I would probably be peaceful though and would only use violence to defend myself from police brutality).
It's a shame your dad doesn't agree with your politics but try explaining it to him as he would be doing it for you as you understand that he would not want you to go on your own. Explain how the cuts will effect you both personally, which they will. If you can't convince him try and organize your mates to ditch school and head to a protest stay away from the front lines and out of the way of horse charges and you'll hopefully be ok.

[Ninel]

Well if you mean when the window got smashed and paint thrown at it, I don't think so, I searched youtube for it and only got 'amateur footage' of the car being chased. Perhaps there is some but it is waiting to be released. Also Manic, what did you do? I have written a speech of how the cuts are bad, it's for a class debate on thursday, currently not complete, but I could show it to my Dad maybe and sway his view?

[KC]

BTW IDK if anyone posted this yet.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-U_gHUiL4P8

Fuck I can't get youtube embedding to work. :(

[Red Commissar]

BTW IDK if anyone posted this yet.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-U_gHUiL4P8

Fuck I can't get youtube embedding to work. :(

You just need to put the stuff after the = in the youtube tags

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-U_gHUiL4P8

-U_gHUiL4P8[|youtube]

[youtube]-U_gHUiL4P8

[Admiral Swagmeister G-Funk]

That little gut is a new labourite in the making! let's drink to hoping that people like him don't distract the movement from its real revolutionary potential :).

[Rosa Lichtenstein]

Ninel:


As an Irishman it gives me great pleasure to see that even the British dislike their monarches now.

Indeed, we have done so since we chopped off Charles 11's head.

[Rosa Lichtenstein]

KC:


Does any footage exist of the royal car getting attacked?

I posted some in the other thread on this:

http://www.revleft.com/vb/showpost.php?p=1952472&postcount=79

[Rosa Lichtenstein]

Here it is:

mk7UC4x_738

[El Rojo]

viz the picture of the wanted guy above, that is lowkey, a well known activist / rapper

[Manic Impressive]

Indeed, we have done so since we chopped off Charles 11's head.
And we'll do it to Charles the 12th as well!!!

Wait Charles the 11th?:D

[Stranger Than Paradise]

You just need to put the stuff after the = in the youtube tags

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-U_gHUiL4P8

-U_gHUiL4P8[|youtube]

[youtube]-U_gHUiL4P8

The heir to Aaron Porter right there...

The Coalition of Resistance is a load of reformist bollocks.

[ed miliband]

The heir to Aaron Porter right there...

The Coalition of Resistance is a load of reformist bollocks.

That was my first thought, simply after having heard his accent.

[/"reverse snobbery"]

[Ninel]

Here it is:

mk7UC4x_738
It's no longer available, any other ones?

[KC]

Wasn't worth it you couldn't see anything in it.

[human strike]

Emergency demo in Parliament Square at 5pm today as Lords votes on fees.

[Rosa Lichtenstein]

KC and Ninel, try here:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/theroyalfamily/8195403/New-footage-of-attack-on-Royal-car-emerges.html

[Lyev]

Did anyone hear about this? A policeman pushed a 20-year-old protester with cerebal paulsy out his wheelchair and dragged him across the road twice. http://liberalconspiracy.org/2010/12/14/how-jody-mcintyre-was-humiliated-first-by-the-police-and-then-the-bbc/

[Manic Impressive]

There's a whole thread devoted to it

[Ninel]

What did he do in the first place?

[Manic Impressive]

He didn't do anything
here's the thread http://www.revleft.com/vb/bbc-journalist-attempts-t146562/index.html?t=146562

[El Rojo]

i was nearby when the above happened. horrible. they even attacked the wheelchair, f*** knows why.they also physically threw those they didn't want to nick onto the ground, like one would throw a sack of potatoes. total disregard for human life

my one piece of advice; bring a hard hat to any and all future demonstrations!

[IndependentCitizen]

i was nearby when the above happened. horrible. they even attacked the wheelchair, f*** knows why.they also physically threw those they didn't want to nick onto the ground, like one would throw a sack of potatoes. total disregard for human life

my one piece of advice; bring a hard hat to any and all future demonstrations!

Have you heard their excuse?

"The wheelchair was aggressively rolling towards us"

[nuisance]

Have you heard their excuse?

&quot;The wheelchair was aggressively rolling towards us&quot;

Yeah, despite Jody not having the use of his upper body to actually do so...

[Rosa Lichtenstein]

What next?

"Well, that toddler was waving her rattle in an agressive manner, so I clubbed her, Sarge."

[Stranger Than Paradise]

No doubt about it, the Millbank protests has rapidly changed methods to policing without any discussion. The precursor for this was the shambolic G20 fiasco. Every time I've been kettled the threat of police violence has been significant.

[Rosa Lichtenstein]

http://leninology.blogspot.com/2010/12/shameless.html

And read the comments, too!

http://leninology.blogspot.com/2010/12/imaginationland.html

[Rosa Lichtenstein]

Duplicate post!

[human strike]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tQLOj_-lyZI

[nuisance]

Off Indymedia- http://www.indymedia.org.uk/en/2010/12/470831.html


For Riotous Assemblies not Reasonable Dissent

The roof-top scenes of occupation and property destruction dispelled the long-held belief that the cops have the upper hand on the streets of the United Kingdom, and especially in the open-CCTV-prison of London. Something much more occurred that day than the complete trashing of the ruling political party's headquarters in the capital city - an aching festive class violence was openly expressed and transmitted everywhere via global media, to all others in resistance around the world.

Again this incredible force was experienced on 9 December, and it still only felt like the beginning.

The opportunity of this moment is the opportunity for mass social rebellion. And within this is the necessity for those that consider themselves already a 'politically conscious' and 'active' class to know when to keep silent, when to step aside and to recognise that the opportunity being presented to them is to divest themselves of their own redundant, prescriptive and obstructive attachment to their own models of theory and action.

Numerous 'interactions' ('direct action skillshares/trainings', 'meetings', calls for a centralising 'Network'/Platform) have popped up over the past couple of weeks during the student uprisings. There is certainly value in telling people to mask up in demos, for example, or what to do when arrested, but is there really a value in 'teaching' rebellion, aside from the need of those teaching it to assert their own ego and present themselves as experts in struggle? In the recent riots, the crowd didn't need to be trained or incited to attack police vehicles and occupy or destroy buildings, it occurs anywhere the people feel confident enough to resist openly en masse.

The anti-capitalist 'struggle' in the UK has, in the last ten years, largely produced nothing worthwhile aside from myriad activist quangoes and some nice careers. If we need to fill any holes in our political identities, let's fill them with curiosity. No sooner does authentic fury explode in the streets, then activist initiatives spring up seeking to manage it, to democratise it, to control it: the beauty of the unknown is at once crushed into the machinery of the leftist bureaucrats. Rolling out the decades failing interminable script, - action medics, people's kitchens, workshops, email lists, ad nauseam – and calling upon the controllables – climate camp, social activist groups, federations, reformist single-issue campaigns; all the tranquilising themes – so that the social managers can attempt to make it palatable and compliant to their careerist manipulations, as frightened of the uncontrollable as the state.

In the last five years, very few of the 'conscious political' class - the activists - have succeeded in getting out of a kettle nor finding their projects developing into one of attack. Because - as the young people and the angry know - to get out of a kettle requires a project of chaos and attack. And that is precisely what the activist cannot and will not engage in, beyond the symbolic.

Why? Because the activist project is not about rebellion nor about chaos. It is primarily a project of reigning in, of taming the unruly desire to break out of all constraints, to specialise it, professionalise it and rationalise it.

The activist project is the maintenance of a self-aggrandising, elitist and fictitious movement. It is a policed theatre of diversion and deference organised by social managers and leftist incompetents. It is an easily infiltrated and repressed illusion full of substitute activities for the well-meaning to waste their time with. How useful for the State to have open umbrella organisations of activism which can pressure people into certain types of conforming and exploitable democratic behaviour, all under the double-speak banner of 'inclusivity', 'consensus' and 'diversity of tactics'. Activism is 'political' thought and 'political' engagement as an impediment to real struggle.

It is the very experience of embedding oneself in a 'politically-conscious' scene and the rules that are built up within it that can lead to paralysis and counter-revolution. In the moment when you need to defend yourself, pick up and throw stones or set fire to a target or barricade, those already entrenched in a morass of theories, debates and dubious ideas of alliance and affinity, many of those who imagine themselves holding some kind of blueprint for social change or revolution and feeling the need for 'intervention', pause, and back off from the clash.

We will not attend any “anti-cuts” activist gatherings nor will we send 'delegates' as if we were some organisational department or cheap NGO. We are not for continuing any of the structures or concepts given to us by democracy.

Those who would 'intervene' must take some time to ask themselves whether they simply wish to constrain within their own limits of thought, understanding and action, an emerging rebellion. Let the young people create new, unpredicted pathways. Let us break our own patterns, and then destroy that most insidious police force – that within us which wields batons of ideology, and which hides it's own impotence, historical inefficacy and fear behind crash barriers of 'necessary infrastructure' and 'organisation'. We want the time to see what comes out of real chaos. Out of rebellion into freedom.

Formalising a struggle too early leads to the death of that conflictual tension; without formalisation there is only social force, which cannot be repressed through its representations, it spreads and detonates social conditions through existing class conflicts and rage. It eventually finds fluid form in informal groupings of affinity through which we can communicate as equals, rather than as stereo-types. Self-management of our struggle, not our everyday drudgery, begins through organising attacks; it is in the highly charged space of the attack – the experience of freedom - that the individual and collective mind, realising in an instant its volition, power, self-determination and willful vitality, can escape dated concepts and forms.

We are not suggesting that we'll not engage in the student uprisings - or any other uprising - but we'll do so with the aim of meeting others with whom we might share a theoretical and tactical affinity for the purpose of social revolution.

We know who we are, what we think and what we desire. We'll continue acting as we always have, alongside and within the coming storm. Understanding these parameters of our own consciousness and practice of engagement, what we plan for is to ride this new social energy, to enable it to give more power to the attacks that we anyway make, and hope that by contributing alongside the new rebel class - not by intervening in its development, we can broaden the struggle without imprisoning its potentiality within the usual cage of reasonable dissent, activism and identity politics. We wish to leave space for others to do the same. It will not be the case that if we attended a meeting of students, we would succeed in persuading them all to our vision of rebellion or of an alternative future world. Nor is there any possibility that at such a meeting, we would be persuaded suddenly to a position of reform or non-violence. As far as we are concerned, the system can only be fought through widespread violent means at street-level, blockading and sabotaging the flow of the economy, spreading the distribution of resources to the social majority and halting wage slavery through mass force.

As we are seeing, the anger is encompassing those people who are not part of the student movement, but have every reason to hate the police and the system.

No more will we remain concealed, once again we can draw a clear line between ourselves and the enemy, the exploiter class.

We call on all those who have made a decision to attack to develop our efforts and interlinked struggles at the base. Let's forge an aggressive push against the global system and it's representations.

For the spread of the riots.
Some uncontrollables

[Stranger Than Paradise]

Great article.

One of the most interesting aspects of this developing student movement is its class militancy. Most things have had an anti-capitalist slant to them,. The attack on the treasury, chants of "we want our money back". Aspects like this are completely compelling, especially as Anarchists, the spontaneous, class militant self organisation of this movement is incredible. 29th January will be interesting to see if the protests intensify, I have a feeling the NCAFC will be tight on this one, the police seems to be increasingly confrontational with them as an organisation and I'm sure they don't want that. Of course I don't think most of the people on the past protests have followed the same narrative as that of the NCAFC.

[Kaze no Kae]

We were god-damn kettled in parliament square for the whole (cold) evening, and were lucky to get out just in time to get our bus back
Our coach was at 8, and we were kettled in Parliament Square till about 9 then rekettled on Westminster Bridge till about 11. Luckily the lovely people at the LSE occupation gave us a place to sleep :)


royal car getting attacked
That was a great morale boost in the Westminster Bridge kettle, when we heard about it :D

"Charles and Camilla in a car
got splashed by blue paint from afar
Topshop just got looted
Christmas just got booted
Charles and Camilla in a car!"

^^;