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Invader Zim
21st August 2003, 17:41
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_ea...ast/3170505.stm (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/3170505.stm)
He was a murdering bastard, usually I am 100% against the death penalty, but my beliefs are sorley tested by "chemical" Ali
Valkyrie
21st August 2003, 17:50
YOu say good?!!!!!!
He was captured. HA!
A few months ago they were confirming he was Dead!!!!!!
Do not believe these fuckers, AK. It is a serious error to trust the US State Dept.
Sabocat
21st August 2003, 18:12
It'll be interesting to see if it's a publicized trial. Can you imagine the stuff this guy will talk about on trial? About all the chemical weapons that the U$ gave to them with their blessing to exterminate the Iranians, and the U$ complaceny regarding the Kurd's on the part of the U$.
I'm sure that they would have much preferred taking this guy out like the sons. I can't believe that they would want him tried in an international court.
Hampton
21st August 2003, 19:05
What the fuck are these guys still doing in Iraq? You would think they'd head over to another country or something.
Invader Zim
21st August 2003, 21:01
Originally posted by
[email protected] 21 2003, 05:50 PM
YOu say good?!!!!!!
He was captured. HA!
A few months ago they were confirming he was Dead!!!!!!
Do not believe these fuckers, AK. It is a serious error to trust the US State Dept.
I can understand them think they killed him in an Air raid, it hardly seems unreasonable to make an error. However I very seriously doubt that they would lie about capturing him... especially as it IS him. With pictures and all, but thats just my opinion.
ONE
21st August 2003, 23:27
Yeah, they've confirmed killing him before; now they’re saying they captured him... either way, at some point in time they lied... Intentionally or not, wrong information was given! I don't believe anything they say. How much of the truth do we actually know??
Did they release this false information before to gain more support? Maybe. Similarly, could they have lied, or mistakenly released wrong information about Saddam's son's deaths? Who knows...
Danton
22nd August 2003, 10:09
As much as we must surley question information given by the coalition, going from A-B and automaticaly dis-beleiving everything is as blinkered as swallowing everything they put out.
Legends
22nd August 2003, 10:11
There is one Iraqi I love and that is Comical Ali, that boy was brillant.
Standing in the street saying there are not americans in Iraqi as a US tank passes him
Invader Zim
22nd August 2003, 11:48
Originally posted by
[email protected] 22 2003, 10:11 AM
There is one Iraqi I love and that is Comical Ali, that boy was brillant.
Standing in the street saying there are not americans in Iraqi as a US tank passes him
That wasnt Chemical Ali, that was the information minister... He was a dude.
Legends
22nd August 2003, 11:50
Yeah I know that is why I said Comical Ali as he was nicknamed that in the UK.
schumi
22nd August 2003, 12:48
yeah I love that bastard too man! :P he is fucking hilarious!!! :D
ONE
22nd August 2003, 14:22
Originally posted by
[email protected] 22 2003, 10:09 AM
As much as we must surley question information given by the coalition, going from A-B and automaticaly dis-beleiving everything is as blinkered as swallowing everything they put out.
You're right. Automatically disbelieving is wrong. But when someone has a track record of not telling the truth for some reason; do you tend to believe him/her more or less? I'm sure some of the information they release is true, but how much of it is, how do we discern the truth? Basically I question every thing they say. The bottom line however, is that we won't really know the truth - at least not anytime soon.
ONE
22nd August 2003, 14:25
Originally posted by
[email protected] 22 2003, 11:50 AM
Yeah I know that is why I said Comical Ali as he was nicknamed that in the UK.
He was entertaining!
This is a site dedicated to him, check it out... (http://www.welovetheiraqiinformationminister.com/) (welovetheiraqiinformationminister.com)
Valkyrie
22nd August 2003, 15:24
The technique is distort and confuse so nobody knows what the fuck is going on.. because it's election time and George Bush is gonna ride this all the way to a second term.
It's better to suspend judgement until I the whole smorgasbord is sitting out on the table and the facts can be weighed.
We will not really know what is really going on for some years from now.. until they, if ever, declassify documents and someone comes clean. not likely to happen as people go to their graves with their genicidal patriotism.
All we know is that since this cleaning up of the "Axis of Evil," Osama, Saddam, Usay, Quday, and Chemical Ali have all died atleast once, the first two, twice, and three of them have managed to rise posthumously --- only after they've been spotted on video or eating in a restaurant.
They think we're a bunch of assholes with Attention Deficit Disorder.
Invader Zim
22nd August 2003, 16:09
http://www.welovetheiraqiinformationminister.com/images/story.sahaf.mon.jpg Iraqi Information minister
http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/world/iraq/images/ali_chemical-s.jpg Chemical Ali
http://www.che-lives.net/users/ak47/other/IIM.JPG
Guardia Bolivariano
23rd August 2003, 01:27
Didn't they say they found his body in the rubble after the air raid?
Invader Zim
23rd August 2003, 04:50
Originally posted by Guardia
[email protected] 23 2003, 02:27 AM
Didn't they say they found his body in the rubble after the air raid?
Who care's how he didnt die? The point is that the yanks cocked it up and didnt kill him. Must have come as quite a shock to find him still alive.
Valkyrie
23rd August 2003, 04:59
WEll, then you know.... they obviously probably killed someone else they definetely should'nt have. Was there ever even a body found in rubble? Was there ever even an air raid? It makes you doubt EVERYTHING. Did you ever see the movie, Jacob's Ladder? ... do watch it.
Invader Zim
23rd August 2003, 05:15
Originally posted by
[email protected] 23 2003, 05:59 AM
WEll, then you know.... they obviously probably killed someone else they definetely should'nt have. Was there ever even a body found in rubble? Was there ever even an air raid? It makes you doubt EVERYTHING. Did you ever see the movie, Jacob's Ladder? ... do watch it.
Yes I have seen it, average film, all the soldures are pumped with experimented drugs and kill each other, the survivors all have viewd halucinations of demons while at the same time the government is planting bombs in there cars. It all turns out in the end that Jacobs dead and has been since Vietnam.
It seams that the Americans made a mistake, and now they have rectified it. I realise that they are unreliable, but to dismiss all they say is mindless paranoia.
Valkyrie
23rd August 2003, 05:41
Wow! I like you much better in the Stalinist thread flirting with Comrade RAF. You are much more pleasant.
And to think, if it wasn't for my fervent defense, you would be banned right now. :):):):):):):):):):)
The reason I pointed out that movie, is because I hated it.. Complete distortion in the context with which you are aimed to watch it. Alot like this shit going on.
Anyway... so what part should we believe?
That they didn't go over to secure that rich oil field? That they really didn't know Saddam had disposed of his weapons? That Iraq loves this occupation and is grateful for being subjects to the great US? That Bush won this election fairly by getting the majority of votes?
Yes, I am way too paranoid not to distrust them.
Invader Zim
23rd August 2003, 05:57
Originally posted by
[email protected] 23 2003, 06:41 AM
Wow! I like you much better in the Stalinist thread flirting with Comrade RAF. You are much more pleasant.
And to think, if it wasn't for my fervent defense, you would be banned right now. :):):):):):):):):):)
The reason I pointed out that movie, is because I hated it.. Complete distortion in the context with which you are aimed to watch it. Alot like this shit going on.
Anyway... so what part should we believe?
That they didn't go over to secure that rich oil field? That they really didn't know Saddam had disposed of his weapons? That Iraq loves this occupation and is grateful for being subjects to the great US? That Bush won this election fairly by getting the majority of votes?
Yes, I am way too paranoid not to distrust them.
Wow! I like you much better in the Stalinist thread flirting with Comrade RAF. You are much more pleasant.
I havent condemed you as a mindless capitalist fool or anything... have I? I thopught I was being civil, or is it about the paranoia remark?
And to think, if it wasn't for my fervent defense, you would be banned right now.
LOL, are you refering to that time when the silly buggers tried to kick me out the CC, and you were like the only person apart from Malte who stuck up for me? I never thanked you for that... better late than never Thanks dude :D
Anyway... so what part should we believe?
Hell, dont ask me, I dont even know what I believe. I just believe what ever seams more feasable, and to be honist I think that the US has got it right this time. If Ali turns up dead again, I will stand corrected.
Yes, I am way too paranoid not to distrust them.
Well I trust them on occasions, and think they are lying bastards on others.
Valkyrie
23rd August 2003, 06:30
actually Malte abstained... BUT -- justice prevailed luckily, or I wouldn't be here myself had it not.
I have spoken on this thread and am now finished!!!!
Peace!
Oh yeah, by the way.... THIS dude looks like a lady!
hahaha. I hate that fucking song!
Guardia Bolivariano
23rd August 2003, 17:58
Originally posted by
[email protected] 23 2003, 05:41 AM
Anyway... so what part should we believe?
That they didn't go over to secure that rich oil field? That they really didn't know Saddam had disposed of his weapons? That Iraq loves this occupation and is grateful for being subjects to the great US? That Bush won this election fairly by getting the majority of votes?
If that's paranoid count me in!
Urban Rubble
23rd August 2003, 21:36
Ya, that Information Minister was hilarious.
As for Chemical Ali, I hope they gut that pigfucker. Like I said when they killed the sons, this war sucks, but at least those murdering bastards aren't in power anymore. Now we just need to do something about OUR mudering bastards in power.
hawarameen
25th August 2003, 01:27
when i heard they killed him i was so happy, i heard they captured him and that he wasnt dead and i didnt even smile, i wasnt happy. when i heard the news i instantly thought of halabja and i have to say i had a little tear in my eye. the images all came flooding back to me.
i hope the humiliate then slaughter the basterd.
Urban Rubble
25th August 2003, 02:16
"i hope the humiliate then slaughter the basterd. "
Ya, seriously. It's things like this that make me wish torture was allowed.
Finality
25th August 2003, 04:23
He deserves what he's got coming to him.
mentalbunny
25th August 2003, 19:38
Well we didn't like the military aciton in Iraq but it happened. Once the US was going for it it had to happen sooner or later. So it was "succesful", Saddam's out of power, which is great, and although there are huge problems at the moment, and the US isn't playing nicely, the UK are doing a good job at bringing them round to be more co-operative with the UN, who are who we really want in the position of power, because that guarantees more safety for the wealth of the Iraqi oil fields. The whole world is watching, especially France and Germany, the US has to behave now.
it sucked, it still does, but at least Saddam's out and the UN is not totally useless because basically everyone except the US supports it.
I don't believe in the death penalty, but I have to admit, in this situation I'm not going make a big song and dance about it, it's not like all the poor kids on death row who shouldn't be there if judges were following the law.
hawarameen
25th August 2003, 19:52
its enough to turn me into a sadist. i cant tell you the things i want to do to him if i got my hands on him. i'm not a sadistic person but nothing would give me greater pleasure than very slowly killing the bastard.
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