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theAnarch
9th December 2010, 03:14
This kind of came up in the Aztlan thread but I didn’t want to get off topic....
The Mexican-American war is one of those topics were many people seem to believe that the current situation is the situation in the 1800s

At the time of the Mexican American War:
USA: Was the most democratic and progressive nation on earth.
Mexico: not a true nation state but a large feudal territory, ruled by a large aristocracy, dominated by first Spain and later France and Britian.
Modern Imperialism: non existent
Capitalism: progressive force in the world.

In 2010:
USA: largest imperialist power, roadblock to third world development.
Mexico: semi colonial state, dominated by US imperialism.
Capitalism: a stagnating non-progressive force, entering its death throws.



In America we have witnessed the conquest of Mexico and have rejoiced at it.[283] (http://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/cw/volume06/footnote.htm#283) It is also an advance when a country which has hitherto been exclusively wrapped up in its own affairs, perpetually rent with civil wars, and completely hindered in its development, a country whose best prospect had been to become industrially subject to Britain — when such a country is forcibly drawn into the historical process. It is to the interest of its own development that Mexico will in future be placed under the tutelage of the United States. The evolution of the whole of America will profit by the fact that the United States, by the possession of California, obtains command of the Pacific. But again we ask: “Who is going to profit immediately by the war?” The bourgeoisie alone. The North Americans acquire new regions in California and New Mexico for the creation of fresh capital, that is, for calling new bourgeois into being, and enriching those already in existence; for all capital created today flows into the hands of the bourgeoisie. And what about the proposed cut through the Tehuantepec isthmus?[284] (http://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/cw/volume06/footnote.htm#284) Who is likely to gain by that? Who else but the American shipping owners? Rule over the Pacific, who will gain by that but these same shipping owners? The new customers for the products of industry, customers who will come into being in the newly acquired territories — who will supply their needs? None other than the American manufacturers.
Thus also in America the bourgeoisie has made great advances, and if its representatives now oppose the war, that only proves that they fear that these advances have in some ways been bought too dear.

S.Artesian
9th December 2010, 04:53
Engels was wrong. This war was initiated by the US for the benefit of the slaveholding South.

Engels was then, and remained, a bit to enamored of "developmentalism," substituting that for an actual critique of the material forces driving the war.

The war did nothing to advance capitalist development in Mexico, and in the US it strengthened the South's grip on the political and military machinery of the US.

The "progressivism" of capitalism is a by-product, exists only insofar as the actions of capital strengthen the prospects for its overthrow. The US-Mexico war did not do that.