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black_night
7th December 2010, 21:44
:D
So, i'm thinking of buying a car, i mustered up a decent amount of cash but when i found something that suited me (a Ford ) i started reading on Ford, and it had a history of anti-semitism, nazi collaboration,attacking unionism,killing leftists in south america etc.
Then again,there's the Volkswagen group with also history of nazi collaboration. Etc.
I really dont know what to buy now.
I'm thinking that maybe a best buy would be to buy a car from a company that exploits their workers the least today and is not involved in any political agitation.

So...any suggestions? :D

F9
7th December 2010, 21:53
Buy the damn ford!I would prefer a volkswagen, they are better cars(from my experience) but buy the one suits you and dont pay attention to such things...If you did, you would soon start searching for your cave and some stones who can start a fire:rolleyes::lol:

bricolage
7th December 2010, 22:35
Everything you have ever bought has been produced via exploitation. You can't boycott capitalism and until the day we tear down this rotten civilization you might as well get a nice car out of it.

Spawn of Stalin
7th December 2010, 22:46
It doesn't matter, there are not ethics involved when buying a car, simply by paying tax you are indirectly supporting everything you hate. I drink Coke, I smoke cigarettes produced by British American Tobacco, the very building I live in is owned and rented out by one of the greatest imperialist powers of all time, fuck it, there is no escape. Cars are no exception, did you know that VW don't just have a history of Nazi collaboration, but Hitler himself gave the order and signed all the cheques to begin production of the original Volkwagen, now know as the 'VW Beetle'? It doesn't matter, because today it is just a car. Succumb to consumerism, but do so without illusions.

Burn A Flag
7th December 2010, 22:58
Being a socialist doesn't mean you have to take on personal austerity just because of a corrupt world. If you did you would be a utopian.

black_night
8th December 2010, 00:30
Yes, i was thinking in the same way you guys, but my main concern was when i read about Ford surpressing unionism, attacking union members etc. I really wouldn't want to give a penny to someone doing that. That is if they are doing something of the sort now.
I know exploitation on the other hand is inevitable and that it's part of the very system. But still there is the vulgar exploatation and then there's open warfare against workers.

F9
8th December 2010, 01:21
Yes, i was thinking in the same way you guys, but my main concern was when i read about Ford surpressing unionism, attacking union members etc. I really wouldn't want to give a penny to someone doing that. That is if they are doing something of the sort now.
I know exploitation on the other hand is inevitable and that it's part of the very system. But still there is the vulgar exploatation and then there's open warfare against workers.

ok ok, let me play the "good communist game":) Is the car new, or its used?

black_night
8th December 2010, 01:27
Lol:laugh:

It's new

MarxSchmarx
13th December 2010, 07:29
If you really want to be on the safe side, there is probably a used Yugo somewhere in your community that the owner is glad to never see again.

For a mainstream brand with a relatively clean history, your best bet is probably a hyundai or a volvo.

ellipsis
13th December 2010, 08:27
Well all/most cars burns fossil fuels, think of all the bullshit that happened to get that tiger in ur tank! point is, boycott cars for environmental reasons, not cause henry ford gang banged eva brun with hitler while he suppressed the 40 hour work week. I own a car that i don't drive but once a week, total disclosure.

Jalapeno Enema
13th December 2010, 08:47
I loves my CRV; it's the first car I've owned that I had adequate head/leg room.

I had an old AMC Javelin that I built buying parts from junkyards; you could go that route.

In any case, I'd never suggest buying a new car; it depreciates up to 15% the moment you drive it off the lot. You can get a used car somebody leased 2-3 years old. They're just as good (better, often, because flawed factory parts would have already been replaced). You also don't have to worry about funding the big mean motor companies if you don't buy from the dealership. There's just really no reason to get a new car other then to show off.

F9
13th December 2010, 11:41
Lol:laugh:

It's new

i have just one tip.Dont buy it!!!! They dont worth there money, you can get a far better car on different company.I have compared ford focus with VW Golf, both same hp, same transmission, almost identical(they are 2 competing cars in there category) and golf is far far better.
If you really want to buy a CAR and not a car, i would avoid ford(unless is mustang:))

Kléber
16th December 2010, 08:41
Consumer activism is pointless because no corporation has a clean record. Good on you for researching though. Just get some reliable sort of used car. Check out Consumer Reports at a library to see which cars have the fewest maintenance issues. Ask friends and family and look on craigslist for good deals. Spend your money on something more important, that doesn't lose thousands of dollars in value every year just by sitting there.

NoOneIsIllegal
19th December 2010, 04:02
I love my Honda Civic. It's a '93 and is still relatively okay. It does well for being 17 years old. Other people I know love their Civics as well.


The gas mileage alone is worth it. They're typically durable and long-lasting cars. A new one would be nice, but you honestly would be okay buying one that is 5 to 10 years old.

Political_Chucky
6th January 2011, 02:08
Buy the damn ford!I would prefer a volkswagen, they are better cars(from my experience) but buy the one suits you and dont pay attention to such things...If you did, you would soon start searching for your cave and some stones who can start a fire:rolleyes::lol:

Pshhhh, I have a '05 Volkswagon jetta GLI, shit has broke down on me too much and I have put in over 2,000 dollars trying to keep it alive. It has broke me :( But, to give it benefit of the doubt, the 05 was a bad year for the jetta.

I would recommend a honda if you didn't buy one already. I had a 97 accord that went up to 200,000 miles til the tranny broke.