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Property Is Robbery
7th December 2010, 04:11
Why this hammer and sickle are on this Nazi pin? The pin says "Labor Day" so I was wondering if this was an attempt by the Nazi party to show they were for the proletariat?
http://www.thepeoplescube.com/images/HammerSickle_Swastika_Nazi_1934.jpg
StalinFanboy
7th December 2010, 04:15
All political parties try to appeal to the working class.
Magón
7th December 2010, 04:15
Clearly it shows that Communists and Nazi's really aren't all that different.
Property Is Robbery
7th December 2010, 04:16
All political parties try to appeal to the working class.
They try to appeal to the masses, who happen to be the working class. I was just wondering if anyone knew specifically why.
StalinFanboy
7th December 2010, 04:19
They try to appeal to the masses, who happen to be the working class. I was just wondering if anyone knew specifically why.
Numbers?
The working class makes up the largest portion of the population.
Also, fascists want to build the nation to be as strong as possible, and so they require class collaboration. They want to "glorify" the workers of a nation as workers of that nation (and they should stay workers because its in their interest to keep the nation strong), rather than as people struggling to get rid of class society.
Magón
7th December 2010, 04:19
They try to appeal to the masses, who happen to be the working class. I was just wondering if anyone knew specifically why.
Because everyone knows that it's the working class is the class to get shit done. That's why they're so pressured and focused on by Nazi's, Republicans, Dems, etc.
Except that all those ideas are there to exploit for their own gains. Obviously.
syndicat
7th December 2010, 05:31
Nazis=National Socialist German Workers Party. they claimed to mold nationalism to socialism. they pursued a policy of increasing production through military keynesianism to put German workers back to work during the depression. after destroying the socialist and anarchist unions they created their fake worker fronts.
ZeroNowhere
7th December 2010, 11:51
"Our adopted term 'Socialist' has nothing to do with Marxian Socialism. Marxism is anti-property; true Socialism is not."
- Hitler.
Essentially, they were pretending to be socialist, probably in order to gain popularity among the working class.
Widerstand
7th December 2010, 12:05
Actually it was the Nazis, 1933, that introduced May 1st as a state holiday in Germany, under the name "Day Of National Work", following the communist and leftist groupings celebrations on the 1st of May, which have been forbidden and violently repressed by the SPD government in 1929.
I think this pin could be seen as an attempt to subvert the communist symbolism to both weaken the SPD and communist working class organizations.
Rjevan
7th December 2010, 12:08
Why this hammer and sickle are on this Nazi pin? The pin says "Labor Day" so I was wondering if this was an attempt by the Nazi party to show they were for the proletariat?
Exactly. The Nazis never had that much support within the working class, their majority of their supporters belonged to the petty bourgeoisie and the peasantry. The Nazis knew that (there's a Hitler speech to workers where he states he knows "that some of you can't forgive me that I crushed the socialist and Marxist parties" but tries to assure them that it wasn't because he's pro-capitalist and anti-working class: "I crushed all the other parties, too!"), they had to win the support of the working people.
One of the attempts to win their sympathy was declaring May Day an official holiday (it wasn't during Weimar), the "Day of National Work". The unions cooperated and joined the DNW celebrations, till they were "crushed, too" and soon May Day became about dancing around maypoles and celebrating spring.
Widerstand
7th December 2010, 12:10
and soon May Day became about dancing around maypoles and celebrating spring.
Which it still is in socially-pacified rural Germany.
Overall 'twas an effective means to subvert the labor movement and take wind off its sails.
The Man
10th December 2010, 22:39
I'd guess that they tried to sway Communists to the Fascism and Nazism route.
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