has there ever been a socialist state

[crazy comie]

I think there havn't becuse there was by no means a classles society. Wich after all is the main deffinition of communisum. As well as them being a dictatorship of the communist party instead of the prolitarian.

[Cassius Clay]

Well I'm of the opionion that the USSR and Albania entered a period described as 'Socialist Transition', I dont think this implys that all classes had been abolished, infact Stalin warned against the bourgesie making a come back in 1952. There was also something called the Shanghai Commune during the 1960's in China, unfournatly Mao shut it down.

[tresa909]

crazy commie, wow who would have thought to ask such a simple question? i have many times wondered the same thing and felt i was crazy for doing so (that makes two of us) lol only i hold no political titles only my three first names that i was born with.

clay, you are on to something, there was definately some underhandedness going on around that time and in my opinion the communism movement went further along than most people realize. the only problem i have is that eventually everything becomes a power struggle and good intentions get compromised with the blood of the poor.

we must return to a simple thesis and build again on that thesis.

so, does anybody have a valid answer for crazy commies question?

[Xvall]

Yes. There have been many socialist states. These are states that follow socialism. If he has asked if there were any 'Communist States' that would be debatable. However, it obvious (Whether you like it or not) that countries like Cuba, Vietnam, China, North Korea, and the Soviet Union followed systems of socialism. Whether or not you think it is the right type of socialism. It is socialism nonetheless.

[tresa909]

okay, drake (thanks for the reply) so do you think i can catch the next flight to Cuba? anybody want to go with...?

socialism has to be a better deal than capitalism, otherwise, what is the point? i don't really know what socialism is really, all i know is that there is a competition between U.S. Capitalism and Communism and if we break it down it's about religion vs. the non-religious.

we are all men born with the same inalienable rights as the other. we are all jews and blacks!

(only thing is they don&#39;t ever ask on those government forms if you are a jew, why not?) maybe because "black" is the same thing? <_<

[apathy maybe]

There have been many of the totalitarian socialist countries, such as Cuba, but there have also been some democractic socialist countries, such as the UK. None of them every trully reached socialism but each went on that track. None of them have been remotilly(sp?) communist, which implies a trully democratic system of society similer to anarchism.

[Rastafari]

Milwauke was the only major US city to have three socialists mayors.

Alice Cooper said so

[Xvall]

But that was only because clay-pastels were involved.

[EneME]

Originally posted by [email protected] 21 2003, 04:17 AM
Milwauke was the only major US city to have three socialists mayors.

Alice Cooper said so
LOL&#33;&#33; I was thinking the EXACT same thing...weird :lol:

[crazy comie]

I meant socialism as in marxist trasition period /communism. not bourgios or beurucratic socialism as there perversions of true socialism.