Banks are the next target!

[RadioRaheem84]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q9-H-HvMugs

Assange is going after Bank of America and the banking industry.

He says he is hoping that the leaked information will open people's eyes on the corruption of the banking industry and will lead to reform and investigations!

Since talking about the possibility of leaks, BoA stocks plummeted by 3 percent!

Assange is gangsta, that is all I have to say about that. Love it.

[Leonid Brozhnev]

Playing with fire now. Endangering the lives of troops is one thing, but attacking the wealthy entrenched corporate elites is going too far! :lol:

[Tablo]

Oh snap! This is getting ridiculous. He might even expose the Alien Jewish Mason NWO 9/11 conspiracy! xD lol

But seriously, this is great stuff. I wonder how this information is making the general public feel... well, how this info is making those who have actually heard about it feel.

[Ocean Seal]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q9-H-HvMugs

Assange is going after Bank of America and the banking industry.

He says he is hoping that the leaked information will open people's eyes on the corruption of the banking industry and will lead to reform and investigations!

Since talking about the possibility of leaks, BoA stocks plummeted by 3 percent!

Assange is gangsta, that is all I have to say about that. Love it.

This guy is a straight up beast, and whatever compliment I can offer him. He is like the Solid Snake for real life. He will have done more for the overthrow of capitalism than anyone else. Hero of the people, hero of the honest. Take em down comrade, and proceed with confidence.

He is the people's sheriff. The corporations can buy the government, the governors, and the law. They can keep everyone on their watch with the police, but Assange well to say the least they are on his watch.

[Magón]

So who wants to put money down, on when the US says enough is enough, and Wikileaks is put down for good, along with it's boss?

[Robocommie]

This guy is a straight up beast, and whatever compliment I can offer him. He is like the Solid Snake for real life. He will have done more for the overthrow of capitalism than anyone else. Hero of the people, hero of the honest. Take em down comrade, and proceed with confidence.

He is the people's sheriff. The corporations can buy the government, the governors, and the law. They can keep everyone on their watch with the police, but Assange well to say the least they are on his watch.

"The Ballad of Julian Assange" ;)

[Fulanito de Tal]

So who wants to put money down, on when the US says enough is enough, and Wikileaks is put down for good, along with it's boss?

I'm in! Start a thread.

[RadioRaheem84]

Kudlow of Kudlow Report wants Assange arrested and detained.

Everyone wants this guy silenced!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-EVhTNYsd3E

[Thirsty Crow]

This guy is a straight up beast, and whatever compliment I can offer him. He is like the Solid Snake for real life. He will have done more for the overthrow of capitalism than anyone else. Hero of the people, hero of the honest. Take em down comrade, and proceed with confidence.

He is the people's sheriff. The corporations can buy the government, the governors, and the law. They can keep everyone on their watch with the police, but Assange well to say the least they are on his watch.
...Yet he hopes that all of this will lead to investigations and reform, not working class' activity.
And I don't think that "the people" need a sheriff like this one.

That's not to say that I do not think this phenomenon is interesting. Indeed, something may come out of it, but if anything does - I doubt that it will have anything to do with workers' revolutionary initiative. A reform here and a reform there - welfare state everywhere (which is the last point of defense, alongside Fascism, for the capitalist class).

[~Spectre]

So who wants to put money down, on when the US says enough is enough, and Wikileaks is put down for good, along with it's boss?

It may be the case that the U.S. simply can't.


Assassinating all of Wikileaks would be worse press than any of the leaks I can imagine. Of course they wouldn't be able to get everyone, so copies of the remaining documents would still get out, and copy cat orgs could spring up.

Their servers are all held by either friendly entities or locked away in bomb proof bunkers (seriously). All of this in countries with legal protection. There's probably a small army of high quality lawyers that would volunteer free lawyer time for wikileaks all over the world.

Wikileaks knows what it's doing. No state is unbeatable.

[~Spectre]

...Yet he hopes that all of this will lead to investigations and reform, not working class' activity.
And I don't think that "the people" need a sheriff like this one.

That's not to say that I do not think this phenomenon is interesting. Indeed, something may come out of it, but if anything does - I doubt that it will have anything to do with workers' revolutionary initiative. A reform here and a reform there - welfare state everywhere (which is the last point of defense, alongside Fascism, for the capitalist class).

His politics are irrelevant. This subversion to the power of bourgeoisie states is always a good thing.

[Red Future]

Leaky Boats sink slowly , in this case the US

[Comrade Wolfie's Very Nearly Banned Adventures]

The more Assange leaks the bigger target he becomes, I doubt he's going to be able to find a safe haven for much longer (or even leave Sweden).

[KC]

BTW Assange is a libertarian. He explicitly stated as such in an interview with Forbes (go on their website it's on the front page). He believes that holding bad corporations/governments accountable will get them to act more respectable and is a good thing for capitalism and free markets.

[Magón]

It may be the case that the U.S. simply can't.


Assassinating all of Wikileaks would be worse press than any of the leaks I can imagine. Of course they wouldn't be able to get everyone, so copies of the remaining documents would still get out, and copy cat orgs could spring up.

Their servers are all held by either friendly entities or locked away in bomb proof bunkers (seriously). All of this in countries with legal protection. There's probably a small army of high quality lawyers that would volunteer free lawyer time for wikileaks all over the world.

Wikileaks knows what it's doing. No state is unbeatable.

Unless it turns into a sort of COINTELPRO deal, and nobody really pays attention to Wikileaks or their boss missing for a week+? After the first week, it's bound to have lost full media attention.

SO LET THE BETTING BEGIN!

[KC]

They're not going to get shut down, even if something happens to Assange. Wikileaks is much bigger than Assange; he is just the public face.

That being said, it would be silly to assassinate him. It would make more sense to, you know, pin something on him to make it look legitimate...

[ZeroNowhere]

Who cares how corrupt bankers are? This strikes me as a more or less pointless direction for further investigation.

[Q]

Who cares how corrupt bankers are? This strikes me as a more or less pointless direction for further investigation.

Does cablegate really surprise you? I think not. What we think and what gets established and confirmed are two very different things. I support the publishing of all capitalist secrets. The more this system gets undermined in its authority, the better.

[Thirsty Crow]

His politics are irrelevant. This subversion to the power of bourgeoisie states is always a good thing.
No, his politics are not irrelevant in the context of exaggerated praise culminating in the phrase "sheriff of the people". As KC notes, here we have a libertarian who hopes that the banking industry will get straight, in order that maximum potentil of capitalism and free markets be fulfilled.
Sheriff of the people? Yeah, but of those people sitting on the top.

[Delenda Carthago]

What if the leaks are not so "leaked"?What if its all a trick of the US goverment?Or what if what's behind it is maybe Russia or China?
Just sayin...

[The Vegan Marxist]

So...how's he a capitalist again? :confused:

[Comrade Wolfie's Very Nearly Banned Adventures]

What if the leaks are not so "leaked"?What if its all a trick of the US goverment?Or what if what's behind it is maybe Russia or China?
Just sayin...

What if your an FBI agent spying on Revleft. What if the CIA shot Kennedy. What if they never landed on the moon. What if the biggest secret of the catholic church is that jesus had a son.

THE TRUTH IS OUT THERE!

[Ravachol]

Q: Would you call yourself a free market proponent?

A: Absolutely. I have mixed attitudes towards capitalism, but I love markets.

Q: How do your leaks fit into that?

A: To put it simply, in order for there to be a market, there has to be information. A perfect market requires perfect information.


Assange is an examle amongst hunderds of people who have the gut feeling something is wrong with Capitalism but end up with reformist and naive analysis of the situation thinking it's a matter of Capitalism's implementation. It isn't that different from social-democratic reasoning.

One should also consider the fact that even if Assange was a Communist, saying this out loud in a forbes interview gives his detractors all the ammo they need, however nasty that may be.

The value of Wikileaks doesn't lie in it's politics or it's spokesman's politics, they are irrelevant. What wikileaks effectively does is being a major pain in the ass for the centres of corporate and state power. It hampers the effective functioning of state and capital and it's value lies solemnly there.

Whether Assange thinks capitalism is good or bad or whether he is pushing for a more 'ethical' capitalism is irrelevant. He'll find out that such a thing is impossible anyways.

In the meantime, hampering the effective flow of normality is always a good thing.

[ZeroNowhere]

So...how's he a capitalist again? :confused:
In the same way that almost everybody else complaining about corrupt bankers is?

[RadioRaheem84]

Well, Assange does strike me as a bit of an arrogant prick who would probably scoff at socialism. Funny though that the only people not calling for his head are left wingers. All the capitalists want his head.

I am certain that this whole stunt is proly half ego and half idealism. That is all irrelevant as the leaks simply solidify our claims about bourgoise democracy.

[Crux]

"I have mixed attitudes towards capitalism, but I love markets."
"It’s not correct to put me in any one philosophical or economic camp, because I’ve learned from many. But one is American libertarianism, market libertarianism. So as far as markets are concerned I’m a libertarian, but I have enough expertise in politics and history to understand that a free market ends up as monopoly unless you force them to be free." (http://blogs.forbes.com/andygreenberg/2010/11/29/an-interview-with-wikileaks-julian-assange/5/)

Alongside a belief in ethical companies. Maybe he's a closet mutualist? Or maybe crypto-mutualist would be a better term. ;)

[Ravachol]

Well, Assange does strike me as a bit of an arrogant prick who would probably scoff at socialism.


Bullshit. While more or less a libertarian now, Assange grew up in the Australian squatting and hacking scene and there are allegations he was (partially) behind the anti-nuclear 'WANK' worm.

He is also on very good terms with Icelandic leftist politicians and anti-war groups (yeah, reformist nonsense but still).

Whatever he believes about Capitalism isn't that different from your average pro-transparancy, anti-corporate-but-not-communist leftist or social-democrat and even some calling themselves communists. The difference is he is actually having an impact on capital's smooth functioning whereas the paper-sellers are not.

[RadioRaheem84]

Wel then....ok. I think the point was that ultimately his beliefs are pretty irrelevant.

[Ravachol]

Wel then....ok. I think the point was that ultimately his beliefs are pretty irrelevant.

They are, just pointing out Assange isn't that daft or naive. That being said, his politics are indeed irrelevant, it's what he does that makes him into what he is. I'd take a self-professed 'libertarian' sabotaging state and capital over social-democrats who are ellbow deep in the anus of said capital anytime. Sure it isn't revolutionary activity but it's subversive allright, it's the kind of monkeywrenching activity that's allways welcome.

[IndependentCitizen]

Mr Assange, was Princess Diana assassinated?!

[Crux]

Did Glenn Beck rape and murder a young girl in 1990?

[KC]

Again: Assange is not Wikileaks. Wikileaks has dozens, if not hundreds, of staffers working on compiling these documents and preparing them for release. Please stop claiming Assange does all the work, everyone over at Wikileaks deserves credit for the hard work they're doing.

[Comrade Wolfie's Very Nearly Banned Adventures]

Again: Assange is not Wikileaks. Wikileaks has dozens, if not hundreds, of staffers working on compiling these documents and preparing them for release. Please stop claiming Assange does all the work, everyone over at Wikileaks deserves credit for the hard work they're doing.

Indeed. Assange is the public face of what is a far larger organization. He takes the credit by and large, but also faces the problem of becoming an international pariah.