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truthaddict11
20th August 2003, 00:12
BAGHDAD, Iraq (Aug. 19) -- A suicide attacker set off a truck bomb on Tuesday outside the hotel housing the U.N. headquarters, U.S. officials said. At least 20 U.N. workers and Iraqis were killed, including the chief U.N. official in Iraq, and 100 were wounded.

Sergio Vieira de Mello, a 55-year-old veteran Brazilian diplomat who was nearing the end of his four-month mission, was in his office when the explosion ripped through the building about 4:30 p.m. and was trapped in the rubble.

U.N. officials said 15 people were killed and 100 wounded. A survey of Baghdad hospitals by The Associated Press found 20 people killed, including 14 U.N. workers.

Vieira de Mello's death was announced by U.N. spokesman Fred Eckhard, and all the national flags that ring the U.N. headquarters' entrance in New York were removed from their poles. The blue and white U.N. flag was lowered to half staff.

U.N. staffers gathered in corridors, on the promenade facing the East River and around television sets as they mourned the loss of the man Eckhard called ''a rising star.''

According to two witnesses, a cement truck exploded at a concrete wall outside the Canal Hotel, where the U.N. was based, but there were conflicting reports about whether the truck was parked or trying to drive through the security barrier.

An AP reporter counted 40 wounded people lying in the front garden and receiving first aid. Some were loaded into a helicopter while others were led away by soldiers.

''I can't move. I can't feel my legs and arms. Dozens of people I know are still under the ruins,'' Majid Al-Hamaidi, 43, a driver for the World Bank, cried out.

Bernard Kerik, the former New York City police commissioner who is rebuilding the Iraqi police force, told reporters that evidence suggested the attack was a suicide bombing.

''There was an enormous amount of explosives in what we believed to be a large truck,'' Kerik added.

Asked if al-Qaida was behind the attack, Kerik said, ''It's much too early to say that. We don't have that kind of evidence yet.''

Vieira de Mello reluctantly took leave from his post as the U.N. commissioner for human rights to take the Iraq assignment, the toughest in the United Nations, at Annan's request. He began work June 2 and would have finished his assignment at the end of September, though the U.N. spokesman in Baghdad, Salim Lone, said many U.N. officials wanted him to stay on.

A senior UNICEF official also was seriously wounded in the blast, U.N. officials said.

''It's a personal loss for all of us, but it's also a political loss because the secretary-general sent into the most difficult job that the U.N. has anywhere in the world now one of the most talented people that we have on the U.N. staff,'' Eckhard said.

He said the attack would force the United Nations to reassess the security risk of working in Iraq but he stressed the Security Council would not be deterred.

Asked if al-Qaida was behind the attack, Kerik said, ''It's much too early to say that. We don't have that kind of evidence yet.''

Eckhard said the United Nations depended on the U.S.-led coalition for security of the building.

A senior U.S. official, speaking on condition of anonymity, said in Baghdad that the truck did not breach the security wall that was erected around the hotel within the past month. He said it was parked on an access road just outside the compound. Witnesses said it was uncertain if the truck was parked or trying to break through the barrier.

The official estimated the amount of explosives was double that used in the attack on the Jordanian embassy almost two weeks ago in which 19 people were killed.

The embassy attack was thought to be the first such terrorist-style bombing in the Iraqi capital since Saddam Hussein's fall.

President Bush, at his ranch in Crawford, Texas, condemned Tuesday's truck bombing, calling the attackers ''enemies of the civilized world.''

''These killers will not determine the future of Iraq,'' Bush said. ''Every sign of progress in Iraq adds to the desperation of the terrorists and the remnants of Saddam's brutal regime.''

Like the Jordan bombing, the attack - a vehicle bomb, a high-profile target with many civilians inside - resembled attacks blamed on Islamic militant elsewhere in the world. It was far more sophisticated than the campaign of guerrilla attacks that has plagued U.S. forces, featuring hit-and-run shootings carried out by small bands or remote control roadside bombs.

There was no immediate claim of responsibility for Tuesday's blast.

Dia'a Rashwan, an expert on radical Islam at Egypt's Al-Ahram Center for Political and Strategic Studies, said the attack fits ''the ideology of al-Qaida. They consider the U.N. one of the international actors who helped the Americans to occupy Palestine and, later, Iraq.''

The blast occurred while a news conference was under way in the building, where 300 U.N. employees work.

A light blue U.N. flag fluttered atop the compound as black smoke rose from at least one burning car after the explosion. One corner of the building was missing and people were seen sifting through piles of rubble.

L. Paul Bremer, the top U.S. civilian administrator in Iraq, walked through the scene of destruction as workers dug through the rubble with their hands trying to find people. There was a 15-yard wide hole in the ground.

Bremer had tears in his eyes and hugged Hassan al-Salame, an adviser to Vieira de Mello. A part of the building collapsed near him. People cried: ''Watch out. Watch Out.''

''We will leave no stone unturned to find the perpetrators of this attack,'' he said.

People, covered with blood, were still being pulled from the wreckage.

The U.N. Security Council, which was briefed about the bombing at a closed-door meeting, called the blast a ''terrorist attack.'' U.S. diplomats were pushing for the council to adopt a statement condemning the bombing.

Several countries denounced the attack. Russia's Foreign Ministry called the explosion a ''barbaric act'' and said it was ''aimed at undermining the already difficult process of postwar stabilization in Iraq,'' the Interfax news agency reported.

Among the dead was a Canadian who died at Wasiti Hospital, Dr. Safa Jamil said. The Canadian was not identified. The Danish Foreign Ministry said a Dane was among the U.N. workers injured.

One wounded man had a yard-long, inch-thick aluminum rod driven into his face just below his right eye. He identified himself as a security consultant for the International Monetary Fund, saying he had just arrived in the country over the weekend.

Several members of the U.S. Congress were in Baghdad touring military sites when the explosion happened - and were scheduled to tour the U.N. facility sometime later in the day. None was hurt.

Dozens of U.S. Humvees were at the scene and at least two Black Hawk helicopters hovered above.

Deputy Syrian ambassador Fayssal Mekdad, whose country holds the Security Council presidency, said ''such terrorist incidents cannot break the will of the international community'' and that U.N. programs would continue.

The United Nations distributes humanitarian aid and is developing programs aimed at boosting Iraq's emerging free press, justice system and monitoring of human rights. United Nations weapons inspectors worked out of the hotel during the period before the war.

The Canal Hotel operates more as an office building than a hotel. The cafeteria is a popular place for humanitarian workers and journalists to meet. U.S. officials often were at the compound as well for discussions with their U.N. counterparts.

The three-floor building houses the offices of most U.N. agencies with the exception of UNICEF and the Food and Agriculture Organization. Before the war, it was home to U.N. weapons inspectors who have hundreds of documents there and a mobile testing lab in the hotel parking lot.

The attack on the U.N. headquarters followed recent suspected sabotage of Iraq's main northern oil export pipeline into Turkey, where a fire still raged, and a bombing of a water main in Baghdad.

Accounts varied over whether the blaze was accidental or an act of sabotage. It would take at least 10 days to repair the damaged pipeline once the fire is extinguished, U.S. military officials said.

Earlier Tuesday, the U.S.-led coalition in Iraq announced that Taha Yassin Ramadan, a former Iraqi vice president known as ''Saddam's knuckles'' for his ruthlessness, was turned over to U.S. forces in the northern city of Mosul.

Ramadan, 65, was captured Tuesday by Kurdish fighters in northern Iraq and the Arab satellite television station Al-Jazeera said he was disguised in peasant clothes. The former vice president was once considered Iraq's second-most powerful man, but his influence had declined. He was No. 20 on the U.S. most-wanted list of former regime figures.

The U.S. military on Tuesday also reported another attack on U.S. forces. Assailants driving alongside an ambulance for cover fired on soldiers in one of Saddam's palaces on Monday night, a military official said. No soldiers were injured.

AP-NY-08-19-03 1532EDT

Copyright 2003 The Associated Press

chamo
20th August 2003, 00:59
It was a very horiffic attack, but the majority of citizens in Iraq would not support this attrocity. Alot of civilians would have been inside the building and among the dead.

The UN supplies the humanitarian aid and water pipelines that the US would prefer not to deal with, and they do a mainly good and important job for the long suffering people of Iraq.

Marxist in Nebraska
20th August 2003, 01:11
Bush called the attackers "enemies of the civilized world." I am so sick of hearing that as an insult. Bush's dad once said the entire civilized world stood with him as he prepared for the first Gulf War. That is pretty funny since Iraq is the birthplace of human civilization! I am pretty sure the Iraqis were not on board with Bush Sr. making war on their homeland.

"Civilization" has been this racist European-inspired construct--the idea that Europe's culture is superior to that of the lands they colonized. As if the ethnic and cultural bigotry displayed by the "my enemies are uncivilized" crowd is not bad enough, they are abusing a decent word. Civilization, by definition, just means that you build cities! The first people to build cities were in Mesopotamia (modern day Iraq) and Africa. Europe, as I recall, was a late arrival to the civilized world.

Faeelin
20th August 2003, 02:32
Originally posted by Marxist in [email protected] 20 2003, 01:11 AM
"Civilization" has been this racist European-inspired construct--the idea that Europe's culture is superior to that of the lands they colonized. As if the ethnic and cultural bigotry displayed by the "my enemies are uncivilized" crowd is not bad enough, they are abusing a decent word. Civilization, by definition, just means that you build cities! The first people to build cities were in Mesopotamia (modern day Iraq) and Africa. Europe, as I recall, was a late arrival to the civilized world.
But it's certainly made up by dominating it handily, hasn't it?

Marxist in Nebraska
20th August 2003, 02:34
Ahhh, Imperial logic... how I love thee... let me count the ways... ummm... oh yeah! ZERO!

Faeelin
20th August 2003, 02:37
Originally posted by Marxist in [email protected] 20 2003, 02:34 AM
Ahhh, Imperial logic... how I love thee... let me count the ways... ummm... oh yeah! ZERO!
Ways to what? Democracy, communism, religious tolerance, are all european ideas.

redstar2000
20th August 2003, 05:01
The UN supplies the humanitarian aid and water pipelines that the US would prefer not to deal with, and they do a mainly good and important job for the long suffering people of Iraq.

I completely disagree!

What did the United Nations do to stop U.S. aggression against Iraq in either of the two wars? They endorsed it the first time and stood aside the second time.

Now they think they can "make up for that" with a few scraps of "humanitarian charity"???

Iraqis have every right to regard UN personnel as just another gang of lackeys for U.S. imperialism. And Iraqi civilians who collaborate with the occupation are no different from French civilians who collaborated with the Nazi occupation.

The bastards had it coming!

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strike any where
20th August 2003, 06:10
^ ah, that's a good point

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20th August 2003, 09:27
The UN is not the enemy. This attack is just going to screw the Iraqi's over.


Peace!

trudeaumania
20th August 2003, 09:28
Since we are on a Che- discussion board. May I add what Che , himself said. You may take this for whatever it's worth. But considering what is happening, today. This is not what Che envisioned in any type of conflict. "Sabotage has nothing to do with terroism; terrorism and personal assaults are entirely different tatics. We sincerely believe that terroism is of negative value, that it by no means produces the desired effects, that it can turn a people against a revolutionary movement.............." Hence Che met any adversary on the field of battle. And for that he will always be head and shoulders above, the tactics that are being employed today. In any conflict in history, those who hold the highest honor, are those who have fought on the field of battle. Not those who masquerade as that, which they aren't.

Ian
20th August 2003, 10:54
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/3164675.stm

driver
20th August 2003, 11:10
Hi there, I am driver, lets hope I get stuck into this forum. Thus far it looks interesting.

Right. I am wth Redstar on this one. There was a discussion on last night and it was noted that the UN was very much part of the last decades sanctions and restrctions emposed on the Iraqi people. The UN played a big part in cutting the country off from the rest of the world.

I am not surprised that they are being targeted as well.

END&#33; (<-- Note, before people *****, and it has happened before. I end all my posts like this, have done so for the last 3 years on forums so just take it as that. :) )

Sabocat
20th August 2003, 13:48
I was particularly happy to hear that some people associated with the WTO and IMF were taken out...

Oh well..

There&#39;s a price to be paid for being a lackey to capitalism and imperialism.

trudeaumania:

As far as Che condemning "terrorist" attacks and favoring military confrontational ones, I&#39;m sure in a situation with such stacked odds from an occupying force, he probably would have ammended his views. What would you do if your country was being occupied by a hostile force? Run out on the battle field with and AK-47 and face a Bradley Armored Vehicle or maybe an Abrams tank, and a vastly superior in number troop force? You&#39;d do what you had to do. The guerilla&#39;s couldn&#39;t survive a direct confrontation.

truthaddict11
20th August 2003, 15:00
I have to agree also with driver and redstar maybe its about time that the UN and US finally get the message

suffianr
20th August 2003, 17:49
Democracy, communism, religious tolerance, are all european ideas.

Religious tolerance is a universal concept, is it not?

Sure, Marx was a European. But the Greeks, the so-called founders of Democracy, hardly ever entertained any notions of belonging to the European continent, did they?

And so what if they were all European ideas? How does that have any positive implications to your ideological fastness to any of those concepts? Or help your cause in any way?

Civilisation is relative; what you define as civilisation is what you see over in your part of the world, as it is with me in my part of the world. If we&#39;d care to overcome that and think beyond our own definitions, then I think we&#39;d actually be one step closer to being "civilised" than we think we are.

But honestly, I&#39;m glad you&#39;re happy about them being European and all. Fucking frame it on your wall, why don&#39;t you? :lol:

Marxist in Nebraska
20th August 2003, 19:47
Originally posted by [email protected] 20 2003, 12:49 PM

Democracy, communism, religious tolerance, are all european ideas.

Religious tolerance is a universal concept, is it not?

Sure, Marx was a European. But the Greeks, the so-called founders of Democracy, hardly ever entertained any notions of belonging to the European continent, did they?

And so what if they were all European ideas? How does that have any positive implications to your ideological fastness to any of those concepts? Or help your cause in any way?

Civilisation is relative; what you define as civilisation is what you see over in your part of the world, as it is with me in my part of the world. If we&#39;d care to overcome that and think beyond our own definitions, then I think we&#39;d actually be one step closer to being "civilised" than we think we are.

But honestly, I&#39;m glad you&#39;re happy about them being European and all. Fucking frame it on your wall, why don&#39;t you? :lol:
Hear, hear&#33; Thank you, Comrade suffianr.