An Introduction of Sorts

[anticivanarchist]

Anti-Primitivist. Anti-Civilization.


I'm from the U.S. and mainly interested in Ultraleft/Situationist sort of stuff. I'm aligned with insurrectionary anarchism most accurately, but I read everything with a tint of a marxishh perspective.

I'm interested more in learning about different ideologies and factions, and I'm here to learn more about Maoism and Trotskyism specifically.

I'm especially interested in Spontaneous Maoism as an ideology.

[Q]

Welcome :)

Wehave a big Learning section waiting for you ;)

[red cat]

Welcome. :)

What do you mean by spontaneous Maoism ?

[anticivanarchist]

There was a tendency in France around the time of May '68 where a group called La Gauche Proletarienne through around the ideas of a sort of post-leninist maoism. What developed was Anti-Hierarchical Maoism, with the paper La Cause du Peuple being "nominally" edited by Sartre.

[red cat]

There was a tendency in France around the time of May '68 where a group called La Gauche Proletarienne through around the ideas of a sort of post-leninist maoism. What developed was Anti-Hierarchical Maoism, with the paper La Cause du Peuple being "nominally" edited by Sartre.

Can you please describe this in more details?

[Palingenisis]

There was a tendency in France around the time of May '68 where a group called La Gauche Proletarienne through around the ideas of a sort of post-leninist maoism. What developed was Anti-Hierarchical Maoism, with the paper La Cause du Peuple being "nominally" edited by Sartre.

They were not at all "post-Leninist". They could be described as "Left Maoist" though.

http://www.isioma.net/sds00500.html This contains some information on them....

[anticivanarchist]

They were not at all "post-Leninist". They could be described as "Left Maoist" though.

I didn't mean to sound as if I was saying that they were ideologically post-Leninist, but they definitely took a mix of Maoism, Post-Structuralism, and Left Marxism, and took a hard stance in support of the Cultural Revolution and the Mass Line.

[Blackscare]

a mix of Maoism, Post-Structuralism, and Left Marxism

What?

[Hoipolloi Cassidy]

There was a tendency in France around the time of May '68 where a group called La Gauche Proletarienne through around the ideas of a sort of post-leninist maoism. What developed was Anti-Hierarchical Maoism, with the paper La Cause du Peuple being "nominally" edited by Sartre.

Oh yeah, Les Maos. Revolutionary romantics, kept things going for quite a while after '68, with a good deal of direct action. And of course Sartre served as the figurehead, since the journal was banned. Terrific movie by Godard (La Chinoise).

Incidentally, I wouldn't bother pursuing the American reading of the "situ" legend too far. Totally marginal, faded after '68, their main contribution is the authorship of "De la misere...etudiante" which kind of announced '68.

A fair number of the kids around Sartre floated into Zionism, some in fact are all-out reacs by now. The few situs left went into mysticism. I'm not saying that to discourage you, BTW.

[Palingenisis]

I didn't mean to sound as if I was saying that they were ideologically post-Leninist, but they definitely took a mix of Maoism, Post-Structuralism, and Left Marxism, and took a hard stance in support of the Cultural Revolution and the Mass Line.

In what way do you see them being influenced by post-structuralism?

Certainly their attitude towards Trade Unions evolved to mirror in some ways those of Left and Council Communism but Im not sure if there were any direct influences.

Unleashing the creativity of the masses and trust in the masses is very much a part of mainline Maoism and "Stalinism" (I recommend that you read Glover Furr's writing on Stalin's struggle to maintain and increase proletarian democracy against the capitalist roaders and crypto-Trotskyites).

You should also remember that they were mostly young blue collar and council estate kids. They were not trendy students or what would be called today hipsters.