China

[BRIN]

So whats guys your opinion on china?

[truthaddict11]

china is nothing but a capitalist state.

[highway star]

yeah china isnt a full socialist country.but now it is the only country that can cope with usa. :ph34r:

[Fidelbrand]

China is opening up both economically & socially... but its socialist ideals are slowly fading.. since it enters the W.T.O.

But i think it will surpass the Yankee Land if the people n the gov't works harder... i hope to see this change. It will probably support Cuba more if it rises as the Biggest head.. as their relation has been quiite ok since Cuban Revolution... :)

[Nobody]

China reminds me more of World War 2 Italy then a socialist state. Sure the trains run on time, but the workers have little say.

[Inti]

China is selling themselves to europe and the USA. Big companies in the world is fighting for getting fat contracts in china. Like Volkswagen, they promise to invest like 10 billion dollars there if they can get to assemble cars in china and to sell them to the chinese. China is coming to be a big threat to the Global pollution if they are going to have as many cars or more than the americans. China now reminds of the states when they got cars, everybody wanting to change their bicycles for a car. The chinese economy is growing and more people will be able to buy all these things. If the world cant get along with a pollution policy then the world will be ficked in a future not too far from now.

[Fidelbrand]

Originally posted by [email protected] 17 2003, 05:52 PM
China is selling themselves to europe and the USA. Big companies in the world is fighting for getting fat contracts in china. Like Volkswagen, they promise to invest like 10 billion dollars there if they can get to assemble cars in china and to sell them to the chinese. China is coming to be a big threat to the Global pollution if they are going to have as many cars or more than the americans. China now reminds of the states when they got cars, everybody wanting to change their bicycles for a car. The chinese economy is growing and more people will be able to buy all these things. If the world cant get along with a pollution policy then the world will be ficked in a future not too far from now.
that&#39;s so true too ...... Comrade Inti. :( POLLUTION&#33; <_<

[FistFullOfSteel]

i dont know so much of chinas goverment :(

[Dr. Rosenpenis]

Originally posted by [email protected] 17 2003, 11:52 AM
China is selling themselves to europe and the USA. Big companies in the world is fighting for getting fat contracts in china. Like Volkswagen, they promise to invest like 10 billion dollars there if they can get to assemble cars in china and to sell them to the chinese. China is coming to be a big threat to the Global pollution if they are going to have as many cars or more than the americans. China now reminds of the states when they got cars, everybody wanting to change their bicycles for a car. The chinese economy is growing and more people will be able to buy all these things. If the world cant get along with a pollution policy then the world will be ficked in a future not too far from now.
who gives a shit about polution?
okay, i give a shit about polution, but is this China&#39;s main concern...or even close? i think not, comrade.

[trudeaumania]

My feeling is China is going through an evolution. It&#39;s culture being Marxist, has to survive in this &#39;new world&#39;. A world of free trade, new markets, and economic expanionism. We have witnessed the fall of the Soviet Union. We see Cuba, still under a trade embargo. What must China do to survive, that is the question? And then next question is, will it remain Marxist, in it&#39;s new role of world trader? :huh: Some would say it has abandoned, the Marxist ways. But I would say in order to survive, you have to evolve. Che, himself was a great advocate for Cuba to develop it&#39;s own industrial base. And he spoke of Cuba&#39;s role of coming into it&#39;s own. Not necessarily the Soviet Marxist way, or the Chinese Marxist way, but the Cuban Marxist way. He realized that each country has it&#39;s own unique strengths and weaknesses. And each has to come up with a plan of it&#39;s own, for it&#39;s own needs. Whatever our feelings on China, one issue is clear. If China is to survive it has to find it&#39;s own way, independent of everyone else. I believe Che was unique, in that he spoke of the need of industrialization. And the need for industrial output, and products for a worldwide market to survive. He spoke of industry being modernized. He knew the source of survivial is evoulution, of the heart and mind. But you will not find the perfect society, it is a constant struggle for it to be developed. <_< I suppose a question that should be asked is, if you were the Chinese leadership what would you do? In all seriousness. Can you have foreign investments in your country, and still be a Marxist? And if so, what standards are needed to make it so? <_< Just a thought. :)

[Hater]

China Inc. is one big factory and cheap labour supply for the Yanks. It has a huge trade surplus with the United States, which is invested in U.S. Treasury securities, from which it draws billions in interest. This huge investment and financial interest of China, dependent upon U.S. trade laws, gives the Yanks enormous political leverage over them. In return, America opens up its own huge market to Chinese competition, in the name of "free trade," and the competition is used as a hammer to destroy American unions and lower the price of labour.

[elijahcraig]

China reverted to state capitalism after the coup on the gang of four.

[Elect Marx]

Originally posted by [email protected] 17 2003, 09:51 PM
China reverted to state capitalism after the coup on the gang of four.
:(

[Guardia Bolivariano]

China isn&#39;t the "communist" threat the US media tries to show.

In fact China cares more about It&#39;s on interest then world wide revolution.

In the cold war they were closer to the US than their soviet counterparts in one time.

The US even sold weapons to China for a theorytical war with the soviets.

China is important to the left because they persue power and they want to take that power from the US.

Anything that can bring bacl a multipolar world is good for the left.

And they do It by suporting rebelion agaisnt american interests.

By salling arms to latinamerican guerrillas exchanging inteligence with Nkorea etc...


China is just out there to be the new superpower.

[Sensitive]

Originally posted by Guardia [email protected] 18 2003, 02:00 AM
China isn&#39;t the "communist" threat the US media tries to show.

In fact China cares more about It&#39;s on interest then world wide revolution.

In the cold war they were closer to the US than their soviet counterparts in one time.

The US even sold weapons to China for a theorytical war with the soviets.

China is important to the left because they persue power and they want to take that power from the US.

Anything that can bring bacl a multipolar world is good for the left.

And they do It by suporting rebelion agaisnt american interests.

By salling arms to latinamerican guerrillas exchanging inteligence with Nkorea etc...


China is just out there to be the new superpower.
Agreed.

[crazy comie]

NO STATE HAS EVER BEEN TRULLY SOCIALIST

[chamo]

I&#39;m not going to bother reading what&#39;s been said or reply to it, since there&#39;s been so many of these "China, socialist or not?" threads I&#39;m just going to state the facts and my opinions.

The government believe that 70% of what Mao did was right, they prefer not to talk about the other 30%.

They have been incorporating Capitalist companies into the country, especially in Bejing. They even have one of the world&#39;s largest stock market exchange centres there.

It is revisionist.

It does not give democracy to people, like the recent protests by students and some communists in Hong Kong has shown.

It is not socialist. On a scale of one to ten it is about a three.