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FAB
17th August 2003, 01:14
Three months have passed since emperor G. W. Bush declared the end of hostilities in Iraq. The rapid success of the US forces over the Iraqi army – due to the capitulation of the high command right at the crucial moment of the defence of Baghdad – made the Anglo-Americans believe to have achieved a total victory. Taking over Baghdad they ridiculized the words of the information minister. Now it is our turn to rediculize their arrogance.
Not even finished, the war started again. Only a few days after the collapse of the Iraqi army guerrilla forces began attacking the mercenaries of the occupation forces. They keep inflicting them losses which are of high political and morale value. Among the US bionic soldiers fear is spreading. As Beirut and Mogadisho already have proved, high tech equipment is not enough to win a war.

Already hundreds of fighters are involved in the armed resistance movement and the tide keeps rising. Despite the media’s attempts to discredit the guerrillas it is evident that they got ample popular support. Children are exulting in front of destroyed US vehicles, while the occupiers thought that they would be waved with stars and stripes banners.

Now they find themselves in a quagmire which could tern into a new Vietnam. However, for the oppressed peoples the resistance is a dream. They hope that one day the occupants will be forced to leave not only from Iraq. We share this hope and want to support it with our militant solidarity.

We therefore invite all the anti-imperialists who oppose the American Empire without any ideological and religious precondition to start an international collection of funds supporting the Iraqi national resistance movement: we ask every person to donate 10 euros. The Iraqi national resistance front in formation will decide upon their utilisation.

Committees, political, social and cultural organisations as well as individuals who endorse this proposal are asked to contact us. Our aim is to build an international popular campaign in support of the Iraqi resistance which also implies the creation of the appropriate international body. At the Anti-imperialist Camp in Assisi, September 2003, we will discuss together with the Iraqi comrades how to proceed.

For information and adhesion to that campaign please contact us.

Anti-imperialist Camp (http://www.antiimperialista.com)

Ian
17th August 2003, 07:18
so who does the money go to exactly?

Chewillneverdie
17th August 2003, 10:28
im for getting troops outta there, not in body bags tho. my government is opressive yes, but if we get the troops on our side, they have no hand to do the work with. And i support the troops, fuck the government, the troops are my concern. ( prob cause my family has been 101st since we came from Ireland) Not to mention going around trying to get money WILL get your ass beat down in america. Right now im working on a assasin training camp at fort benning shut down and Bush impeached. I want those soldiers outta their before those Guerrillas tear them to peices bit by bit. Sorry but those troops are the not the enemy. BUSH IS, but dont kill the pawn if there is a way to take the king, and voting to impeach and spreading truth will do that.

Nobody
17th August 2003, 17:15
Chewillneverdie, they are our enemy. They volunteer to join the army, they are not forced into it. If they were drafted, then they might be my comrade, but if you choose to become a killing machine for a facist regime, then there is no hope for you. I hope the gallent Iraqi resistors whack ever one of those bastards.

Severian
18th August 2003, 05:42
Originally posted by [email protected] 17 2003, 05:15 PM
Chewillneverdie, they are our enemy. They volunteer to join the army, they are not forced into it. If they were drafted, then they might be my comrade, but if you choose to become a killing machine for a facist regime, then there is no hope for you. I hope the gallent Iraqi resistors whack ever one of those bastards.
Even the NLF, when they were fighting U.S. soldiers every day, didn't necessarily have such a knee-jerk unthinking reaction to 'em. There was NLF propaganda aimed at 'em, etc.

Most people who join the U.S. army do not consciously "choose to become a killing machine for a facist regime." There've been numerous reports of U.S. soldiers in Iraq demanding to be brought home.

That's not specially an argument against armed resistance to the occupation, of course. Ian Rocks asks a legitimate question, though. Also, there would be tactical questions varying from country to country on whether material aid to the armed Iraqi resistance is the best way to oppose the occupation. I'm inclined to say not, in the U.S.

For that matter, there's a tactical question inside Iraq on whether it's time to take up arms against the occupation. A lot of people who have spoken against the occupation there have also said they want to exhaust other means of opposing it first, and one could make a case that this course would lead to an armed resistance, if it becomes necessary to resort to that, having a wider popular base.

As Che said, it's a mistake to start an armed struggle when the "possibilities of peaceful struggle have not yet been exhausted." and at least some space for demonstrations, etc., does seem to exist in Iraq. Whether it's enough space to make a difference is, as I said, a tactical question, and it seems to be one where there's some disagreement among Iraqi opponents of the occupation.

suffianr
18th August 2003, 08:09
Chewillneverdie, they are our enemy. They volunteer to join the army, they are not forced into it. If they were drafted, then they might be my comrade, but if you choose to become a killing machine for a facist regime, then there is no hope for you. I hope the gallent Iraqi resistors whack ever one of those bastards.

Surprise, surprise. You remind me of someone. He thought soldiers were mindless violent automatons too!

As the son of an ex-serviceman, who put food on our table and raised me well enough to realise that your attitude isn't going to get you very far with the "masses", I'd ask you to not be so trivial about things. My dad volunteered, he wasn't forced to become a soldier. He did it because he came from a poor family and couldn't go to university, so he decided to join the Army and get them to sponsor his tertiary education, instead of moping about. It was his choice. He got employment and an education, and with it, better opportunities in life.

Similarly, invading Iraq wasn't planned by corporals or privates or field medics or Humvee drivers. They are not your enemy. They might be an Iraqi's enemy, threatening peace in his homeland, but they sure as hell are not yours, as you sit comfortably in front of your computer.

Your enemy is capitalism. What are you doing about it? :angry:

Chewillneverdie
18th August 2003, 08:12
soldiers are so brainwashed b4 they enter they join wanting to help, i dont want to see them dead, I want to see them understand why they are there, because they are pawns. Trained soldiers might even be benificial in event ofa revolution ( i have a feeling those troops might rebel if something in te us happens and if they are kept in those conditions) but there are peaceful ways of resolving this, if we only use violence, are we not the same as the gov.?

FAB
18th August 2003, 13:07
I had forgotten:

Please transfer your donation with the keyword "Iraq" to:

RKL
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commieboy
20th August 2003, 20:39
lots of americans cant give money, any mail going to Iraq is theroughly scanned by the CIA and NSA and Army. And if caught, its Treason, its a huge risk.