RadioRaheem84
17th November 2010, 23:44
The guy I am debating knows his stuff, yet it reeks of right wing NWO history.
When someone says that that Lenin and the Bolsheviks were financed by Germany to get Russia out of the war and it was mostly out of the pockets of German Jews, are they NWO/Bircher nutters?
Other nuggets:
"How can you make the excuse that 30 million people died simply because Stalin wanted to industrialize Russia? How does that make a lick of sense?? Last time I checked, the United States, France, England, Japan, and a plethora of other nations managed to industrialize their respective nations fairly quickly without murdering millions. But for some reason Stalin needed to murder 30 million in order to do it? Logic isn't exactly your speciality.
Communism failed because it was imposed on an agrarian society as opposed to an industrial one, the same reason why it failed in China, Cuba, and most everywhere else. Marx's prophecies about international revolutions in the industrialized nations never came to fruition because he wasn't smart enough to realize that the reason why those nations were so successful to begin with was because of the free market that resulted in trade, competition, and innovation; in short, they were successful because of the disparity between wealth and class, not in spite of it. Why do you think the USSR was almost totally dependent on the United States during WW2 for its materials? Why do you think both the USSR and Red China fell far behind in science and innovation when compared to the US and Western Europe? Because their political systems did not allow for internal innovation. "
Do some research into who funded the Bolsheviks and you'll get your answer; it was primarily Germans and German-Jews on Wall Street; capitalists, nonetheless
Nazi Germany was a far smaller "slaughter machine" than communist Russia, first and foremost, and secondly, the reason why Germany was transformed from a hellhole with mass starvation and unemployment under the Weimar years into one of the biggest economic, military, and industrial powers in the world was because they happened to have a genius named Hjalmar Schacht presiding over their economic development. One of the most interesting aspects about the Nazi economy was the way they circumvented the central banks and adopted a quasi-barter system with other nations in South America and Europe, i.e. one raw material for another. "Imperialism" was only part of the equation; the country's expanding military-industrial complex was a factor, but it took a back seat to the country's nationalization and increased trade that ended unemployment and inflation within a few short years, something that the USSR couldn't do in 70.
Is this guy a Nazi sympathizer? Something tells me he is very Rothbardian.
When someone says that that Lenin and the Bolsheviks were financed by Germany to get Russia out of the war and it was mostly out of the pockets of German Jews, are they NWO/Bircher nutters?
Other nuggets:
"How can you make the excuse that 30 million people died simply because Stalin wanted to industrialize Russia? How does that make a lick of sense?? Last time I checked, the United States, France, England, Japan, and a plethora of other nations managed to industrialize their respective nations fairly quickly without murdering millions. But for some reason Stalin needed to murder 30 million in order to do it? Logic isn't exactly your speciality.
Communism failed because it was imposed on an agrarian society as opposed to an industrial one, the same reason why it failed in China, Cuba, and most everywhere else. Marx's prophecies about international revolutions in the industrialized nations never came to fruition because he wasn't smart enough to realize that the reason why those nations were so successful to begin with was because of the free market that resulted in trade, competition, and innovation; in short, they were successful because of the disparity between wealth and class, not in spite of it. Why do you think the USSR was almost totally dependent on the United States during WW2 for its materials? Why do you think both the USSR and Red China fell far behind in science and innovation when compared to the US and Western Europe? Because their political systems did not allow for internal innovation. "
Do some research into who funded the Bolsheviks and you'll get your answer; it was primarily Germans and German-Jews on Wall Street; capitalists, nonetheless
Nazi Germany was a far smaller "slaughter machine" than communist Russia, first and foremost, and secondly, the reason why Germany was transformed from a hellhole with mass starvation and unemployment under the Weimar years into one of the biggest economic, military, and industrial powers in the world was because they happened to have a genius named Hjalmar Schacht presiding over their economic development. One of the most interesting aspects about the Nazi economy was the way they circumvented the central banks and adopted a quasi-barter system with other nations in South America and Europe, i.e. one raw material for another. "Imperialism" was only part of the equation; the country's expanding military-industrial complex was a factor, but it took a back seat to the country's nationalization and increased trade that ended unemployment and inflation within a few short years, something that the USSR couldn't do in 70.
Is this guy a Nazi sympathizer? Something tells me he is very Rothbardian.