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Nothing Human Is Alien
17th November 2010, 21:18
Last night in front of an audience of hundreds at a presentation at the University of Southern California, TV personality Bill Nye — popularly known as the "Science Guy" — collapsed midsentence as he walked toward a podium. Early indications are that Nye is OK, but what's odd about the incident isn't so much Nye's slight health setback as the crowd's reaction. Or, more precisely, its nonreaction, according to several accounts.

It appears that the students in attendance, rather than getting up from their seats to rush to Nye's aid, instead pulled out their mobile devices to post information about Nye's loss of consciousness.

Alastair Fairbanks, a USC senior in attendance for Nye's presentation, told the Los Angeles Times that "nobody went to his aid at the very beginning when he first collapsed — that just perplexed me beyond reason." The student added, "Instead, I saw students texting and updating their Twitter statuses. It was just all a very bizarre evening."

Indeed, a cursory search on Twitter revealed a virtual play-by-play account of the incident. One student wrote, "Bill Nye tripped on his computer cord while speaking at USC, was out for abt 5 secs, got back up, spoke w/ slurred speech and fainted."

According to the school's student news outlet, the Daily Trojan, Nye asked, "What happened? How long was I out?" when he regained consciousness. Briskly picking up his humorous persona, he added, "Wow, that was crazy. I feel like Lady Gaga or something." Nye's publicity team didn't immediately respond to The Lookout's request for comment on the episode.

Still, in the annals of the digital public's civic indifference, the Nye incident is nowhere near as disturbing as another episode reported in New Orleans earlier this week, which oddly enough also involved a humorist. Anthony Barre, a New Orleans man popular for his acid-tongued comic performances on YouTube using the handle "Messy Mya," was murdered on the streets of the city's 7th Ward — the historically Creole neighborhood chronicled in the HBO series "Treme." As he lay dying, witnesses at the scene took to the Internet to chronicle the tragedy in real time, even posting photos of his body lying in a pool of blood.

Here's how the Times-Picayune's Brendan McCarthy described the incident:

Moments after gunshots roared through the 7th Ward on Sunday night, a lone snapshot appeared on the Internet.

In it, a 22-year-old man is lying cheek to the ground, crimson pooling around his neck. His eyes are closed, his torso curled.

Chaos explodes around him, with the arms of others pressed to the back of his head. And someone is holding a cell phone just inches from his face.

This is how the world learned of Messy Mya's death.

Prior to this week's episodes, perhaps the best-known incident of youthful digital passivity in the face of danger was the September 2007 tasing of University of Florida student Andrew Meyer at a speech delivered by Massachusetts Democratic Sen. John Kerry. That episode immortalized the expression "Don't tase me, bro!" The crowd of onlookers trying to capture the encounter on their cellphone cameras later prompted Comedy Central host Stephen Colbert to imagine the internal monologue of a bored-looking kid seated next to Meyer thusly: "He's thinking, 'I wish they'd stop tasing this guy, so I can get home and watch him being tased on YouTube.' "

http://news.yahoo.com/s/yblog_thelookout/20101117/sc_yblog_thelookout/if-the-science-guy-passes-out-and-nobody-tweets-it-did-it-happen

gorillafuck
17th November 2010, 21:25
I had to reread this, it's a really all over the place article.

The Messy Mya incident is terrible.

GPDP
17th November 2010, 21:26
Yet more proof that my generation has lost its grip on reality.

Ele'ill
17th November 2010, 22:28
*Edit This video had too much Korda bullshit surrounding and it would have given the wrong impression.

Jazzhands
17th November 2010, 22:40
Bill Nye?!! NOOOOO!!

anyway...I think this shows how alienated people become from their own reality. Thanks to capitalism's emphasis on virtual stimuli rather than on human beings, we don't actually "hang out" with other people anymore. We just get together and stare at a screen. This is both because of and a cause of the alienation of capitalism that estranges workers from their own lives.

erupt
18th November 2010, 03:41
It also shows the overall general populace, in particular those attending that specific lecture, have no compassion for other human beings. They simply don't give a fuck.

For example, Hutus killing Tutsis in Rwanda, who give's a shit? R.U.F. killing families in Sierra Leone, oh well. Americans don't care, which is the main reason the U.S. Labor movement is in the shitter. Fuckin' apathy...

ckaihatsu
18th November 2010, 10:16
Besides the obvious, aforementioned lack of general humane social interconnectedness, my pet theory about everyday physical lapses is that it's the product of *cognitive dissonance*, in which one's mindset becomes too materially bifurcated to sustain consciousness any longer, even if for but a moment -- like an earthquake's yawning chasm opening up in the brain.... At some point one's *external* actions, as perhaps in accordance with mainstream societal expectations, will come into massive conflict with what one knows *inside* to be in one's *own* best interests. Then the brain does a "cold restart", I guess....


History, Macro-Micro -- Political (Cognitive) Dissonance

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ZeroNowhere
18th November 2010, 10:44
One has to wonder how many of these students were qualified to deal with the situation properly rather than risking further fucking up of things, or indeed how many would have known how to make any concrete improvements in the situation. The human body may be quite fragile once cracked, and fixing up said cracks can't simply be done by running around looking concerned, which is more likely to deepen them.


Yet more proof that my generation has lost its grip on reality.Because the bystander effect originated with this generation? The only real difference is that in this case the people were actually doing something.

Aloysius
18th November 2010, 11:23
What really bothers me is that they didn't come to Bill Nye The goddamn Science Guy's aid.
I mean, it's Bill Nye.

9
18th November 2010, 11:34
I mean, it's Bill Nye.

I've actually heard that he's a huge asshole and that most people who know him can't stand him. I can't remember where I heard it, though - it was a few years ago.

EDIT: actually its apparently widely-known; scroll down and read the comments here (http://www.king5.com/news/Bill-Nye-the-Science-Guy-faints-on-Calif-stage-108686274.html), for example. although on second thought it seems sort of unlikely that his audience reacted the way they did (i.e. by not reacting at all) because they think he's an asshole. but you never know..

ckaihatsu
18th November 2010, 13:43
This is what happens in an otherwise shining civilization when the EMT personnel decide not to follow the right Twitter feeds...! I mean, who's *really* at fault here -- ???


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ed miliband
18th November 2010, 14:11
People are honestly claiming that a story about a man fainting on stage and people, "according to several accounts", failing to react is "proof that my generation has lost its grip on reality" or that it "shows the overall general populace ... have no compassion for other human beings"? It's not proof of anything, nor does it remotely "show" anything that can be applied to the "general populace".

ckaihatsu
18th November 2010, 14:40
Dammit, this kind of thing wouldn't happen if people actually gave a *damn* about science! You all oughta be ashamed of yourselves!!


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GPDP
18th November 2010, 14:46
People are honestly claiming that a story about a man fainting on stage and people, "according to several accounts", failing to react is "proof that my generation has lost its grip on reality" or that it "shows the overall general populace ... have no compassion for other human beings"? It's not proof of anything, nor does it remotely "show" anything that can be applied to the "general populace".

In my defense, my comment was more impacted by the part of the story about the shooting rather than Bill Nye's self-ownage.

scarletghoul
18th November 2010, 14:53
sossiyehti ov da schpektah-cool

erupt
18th November 2010, 16:54
People are honestly claiming that a story about a man fainting on stage and people, "according to several accounts", failing to react is "proof that my generation has lost its grip on reality" or that it "shows the overall general populace ... have no compassion for other human beings"? It's not proof of anything, nor does it remotely "show" anything that can be applied to the "general populace".
The general populace was a wrong term to use, because the college kids are a particular demograph. My terminology was a little off. Still, my main point holds true. Out of how many attended, worked behind stage, etc. that did not respond in a humane manner, illustrates a general feeling of apathy. People don't care about each other. It's kinda like that story where someone was bleeding on the ground in front of the hospital and other people just walked right past without notifying anyone or anything of that nature, any action to help that person.

A Revolutionary Tool
19th November 2010, 05:34
This kind of stuff is horrible, why the fuck do they do this? Instead of helping people out people always just grab out their phones. Last year in a city near mine a 14 year old girl was raped outside of a school dance and instead of people stopping what was happening a crowd gathered around, got out their phones, and started taking pictures/videos of what was going on.