Viva Four Loko!

[Mindtoaster]

* Four Loko to pull caffeine from alcoholic energy drinks

* Warning expected from FDA, FTC

By Martinne Geller

NEW YORK, Nov 17 (Reuters) - The maker of controversial alcoholic energy drink Four Loko said it would remove caffeine and other stimulants from all of its beverages ahead of an expected crackdown by U.S. regulators.

Chicago-based Phusion Projects said late on Tuesday that it planned to reformulate its Four Loko drinks to remove caffeine, guarana and taurine.

"We are taking this step after trying -- unsuccessfully -- to navigate a difficult and politically charged regulatory environment at both the state and federal levels," Phusion's three co-founders and managing partners said in a statement on the company's website.

The news came just after U.S. Senator Charles Schumer said the U.S. Food and Drug Administration and the Federal Trade Commission, planned to warn manufacturers that adding caffeine to alcoholic drinks is unsafe and to caution them against selling such products, often called "blackout in a can." [ID:nN16154911]

The FDA and other agencies plan to announce results of a review on caffeinated alcoholic drinks at 1 p.m. ET.

"Blackout in a can" drinks have grabbed headlines across the country in recent weeks after nine college students in Washington state were hospitalized after drinking quantities of Four Loko and similar beverages off-campus.

Health experts say mixing alcohol and caffeine is dangerous because the stimulant masks the effects of the alcohol, allowing people to continue drinking long after they would have otherwise stopped.

Four Loko, which comes in fruit flavors and brightly colored cans, is 12 percent alcohol. That means that one 23.5-ounce can is comparable to drinking five or six beers.

Major brewers, including Anheuser-Busch and MillerCoors, stopped making drinks mixing alcohol and caffeine in 2008 amid pressure from state authorities, but smaller companies have filled the gap.

Anheuser is part of Anheuser-Busch InBev (ABI.BR), and MillerCoors consists of the combined U.S. operations of SABMiller (SAB.L) and Molson Coors Brewing Co (TAP.N). (Reporting by Martinne Geller; Editing by Lisa Von Ahn)

http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSN1719801120101117

Fucking bastards. Tell us what we can and cannot drink and then refuse to pay for our healthcare

[Os Cangaceiros]

Four Loko is the devil.

[Sasha]

not that i drink caffeine anymore but why is everybody up in arms about this? just buy some cheap wodka and an cheap energydrink and mix yourself. propably an hell of a lot cheaper.

[Mindtoaster]

not that i drink caffeine anymore but why is everybody up in arms about this? just buy some cheap wodka and an cheap energydrink and mix yourself. propably an hell of a lot cheaper.

They're less the 2 bucks for a 28 oz can which has the same alcohol content as six beers.

[Os Cangaceiros]

Yeah, buying a bottle of vodka + energy drinks is in no way, shape or form cheaper than buying Four Loko.

I guess that kids are just going to have to kick it oldschool and go back to 40's. (That's what should happen, anyway.)

[GPDP]

A few months ago I would've been up in arms over this, since I drank Four Lokos almost religiously. I can easily drink two cans.

However, Four Lokos began to give me stomach cramps the day after, and it came to a head one night when after drinking just one can, I felt something akin to a nasty, nasty hangover, which never happened before, so I stopped drinking them. They taste like shit anyway. I've since moved on to drinking Natty Ice and Mickey's for my cheap alcohol fix.

[Fawkes]

Four Lokos are pretty lame, Joose is where it's at. But still, fuck this bullshit, they're banned in NY starting Friday.

[Os Cangaceiros]

I've since moved on to drinking Natty Ice and Mickey's for my cheap alcohol fix.

So you've acquired taste, in other words.

Can't say that I approve of Natty Ice, though. I usually go for PBR or Hamm's (if I can find it).

[GPDP]

I've always loved Mickey's. However, I didn't have access to them for a long time because I live in lolTexas and stores are legally required to accept ONLY Texas IDs. It took a while for me to find a store that 1. carried Mickey's and 2. doesn't give a fuck about the kind of ID I show.

And again, I buy shitty alcohol because I'm poor as fuck. If I could, I would buy Shiner Bock every day.

[Os Cangaceiros]

Really? Is that just where you live?

I live in Austin and I never had a problem with that, except for certain gas stations (namely Texaco, for some reason).

I bought most of my Mickey's at a super ghetto convience store that was run by two cool Indian guys who didn't even check ID though, LOL.

[GPDP]

I bought most of my Mickey's at a super ghetto convience store that was run by two cool Indian guys who didn't even check ID though, LOL.

LOL indeed, because that's exactly the kind of store I go to for Mickey's :D. It's run by three Indian guys AND a cool Chinese guy.

[Il Medico]

Four Loko has about the same alcohol content as Wine. Just go buy buy a five dollar gallon of Carol Rossi wine. Taste pretty shit, but you'll be drunk as fuck in no time.

[The Douche]

http://26.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lc46zmYx2L1qeabsco1_400.jpg


Follow my tumblr (http://revengeonsociety.tumblr.com) if you get loko.

[Blackscare]

Fuck 4 Loko, it's just a trendy 40oz, in practice. Cheap, single container with 5-6 doses of alcohol.

This is my shit:

http://teakdoor.com/Gallery/albums/userpics/13819/olde_english_40.jpg



I guess that kids are just going to have to kick it oldschool and go back to 40's. (That's what should happen, anyway.)

Exactly. I'd thank if I could.

[GPDP]

Eh, again, the main reason I liked Four Loko is because how cheap it was relative to its alcohol content. It never really was about the caffeine for me. It was just a fucking steal.

For comparison's sake, using prices around where I live before taxes:

- A 40 Oz. bottle of Mickey's (5.6% apv) is $2.29, amounting to $1.02 per ounce of alcohol.

- A six pack of 16 Oz. Natty Ice (5.9% apv) is $5.29, amounting to $0.93 per ounce of alcohol.

- A 24 Oz. can of Steel Reserve/Hurricane High Gravity (8.1% apv) is $1.59, amounting to $0.82 per ounce of alcohol.

- A 23.5 Oz. can of Four Loko (12% apv) is $1.99, amounting to $0.71 per ounce of alcohol.

For the price, a Four Loko is a hell of a fucking deal. The caffeine crap is just icing on the cake, I suppose. If they do take it out, I suppose I wouldn't care too much, though I'd have to see if it would still give me stomachaches with the caffeine removed.

[Honggweilo]

cheap fix

1. wine
2. shitload of sugar
3. microwave
4. profit

Then there is always denatured alcohol or gasoline huffing

[NoOneIsIllegal]

^ doesn't know shit about capitalism. profit is always step 3.

[praxis1966]

What the fuck ever happened to having the sack to just schwill some Everclear or Bacardi 151?

[Os Cangaceiros]

What the fuck ever happened to having the sack to just schwill some Everclear or Bacardi 151?

Yeah man. Kids today are such pussies...I bet half of 'em haven't even woke up in an emergency room yet!

[praxis1966]

Yeah man. Kids today are such pussies...I bet half of 'em haven't even woke up in an emergency room yet!

Hahaha Hey, man, all I'm sayin' is by the time I was 16 I already knew the best way to drink Jack Daniels: without a chaser and straight from the bottle. I dunno why everything has to taste like fruit or cough syrup (in the case of alc energy drinks) these days. Bunch of spoiled suburbanites...

[Os Cangaceiros]

Tell me about it. One of the people I live with spotted me nursing a half pint bottle of Bulleit Bourbon recently (while watching Mortal Kombat, LOL) and I let him have a shot. He sputtered and coughed for like an entire minute. I just shook my head and mentally muttered "kids of today." Even though he and I are technically the same age.

I like that warm fuzzy feeling that drinking straight liquor gives you, but I still like a mixed drink now and then (namely bourbon and coke).

[Os Cangaceiros]

Four Loko has about the same alcohol content as Wine. Just go buy buy a five dollar gallon of Carol Rossi wine. Taste pretty shit, but you'll be drunk as fuck in no time.

When my two friends and I moved into our (then) new house about eight months back, we christened it by drinking a gallon of Carlo Rossi sangria in one sitting. I slept like a baby that night on a tile floor, LOL. Carlo Rossi should start an ad campaign: "Carlo will turn any surface into an instant bed!"

[Sasha]

I like that warm fuzzy feeling that drinking straight liquor gives you, but I still like a mixed drink now and then (namely bourbon and coke).

since i stoped drinking coke (i stoped drinking cafeine for medical reasons) i have been desperatly trying to find an new mix fav drink to replace my brown rum - cola habbit, i must say that jack d - 7up is an suprising first contender.

[Sasha]

also:

http://www.thestranger.com/images/blogimages/2010/11/18/1290121737-screen_shot_2010-11-18_at_3.06.52_pm.png

www.perkyjerky.com
Step up the fuel etc. etc.


It's Perky Jerky, the "INVIGORATING BEEF JERKY" made with Four-Loko-famous™ guarana.
If the idea doesn't make you feel ill, the copy on the website (http://www.perkyjerky.com/home.php) will: "COFFEE IS SO 2009. Ready to step up your game? Perky Jerky is the fuel to take you to the next level..."

[#FF0000]

alcohol + energy drink is hella dumb what are ya'll even doing goddamn

[Il Medico]

Tell me about it. One of the people I live with spotted me nursing a half pint bottle of Bulleit Bourbon recently (while watching Mortal Kombat, LOL) and I let him have a shot. He sputtered and coughed for like an entire minute. I just shook my head and mentally muttered "kids of today." Even though he and I are technically the same age.

I like that warm fuzzy feeling that drinking straight liquor gives you, but I still like a mixed drink now and then (namely bourbon and coke).
I know what you mean. While i actually prefer mixed drinks (cuba Libre, Vodka and Cranberry, etc) I'll drink straight liquor (usually rum) for time to time and it completely baffles all my friends.

The people who like flavored fags annoy me too. I gave a girl a a smoke from my pack of turkish royals the other day and she said it tasted shit and asked if I had any cherry flavored ones. Fucking hell.:mad:

[praxis1966]

Tell me about it. One of the people I live with spotted me nursing a half pint bottle of Bulleit Bourbon recently (while watching Mortal Kombat, LOL) and I let him have a shot. He sputtered and coughed for like an entire minute. I just shook my head and mentally muttered "kids of today." Even though he and I are technically the same age.

I like that warm fuzzy feeling that drinking straight liquor gives you, but I still like a mixed drink now and then (namely bourbon and coke).

Hahaha Yeah, I don't go in much for mixed drinks, but I'm totally down with straight liquor. Mostly what I drink is beer and straight whiskey (preferably Irish but Bourbon runs a close second). Fuckin' kids these days is right, lol.

As an aside, I fuckin' hate the fact sometimes we never crossed paths when I was living in Austin. We so would've wrecked Lovejoy's and the Mean Eyed Cat. Next time I'm in town, I guess, lulz...


I know what you mean. While i actually prefer mixed drinks (cuba Libre, Vodka and Cranberry, etc) I'll drink straight liquor (usually rum) for time to time and it completely baffles all my friends.

The people who like flavored fags annoy me too. I gave a girl a a smoke from my pack of turkish royals the other day and she said it tasted shit and asked if I had any cherry flavored ones. Fucking hell.:mad:

Dude, this is starting to sound like a Southern thing. I smoke Turkish Royals as well... Seems like we're all cut from the same cloth or something.

[Jazzratt]

I know what you mean. While i actually prefer mixed drinks (cuba Libre, Vodka and Cranberry, etc) I'll drink straight liquor (usually rum) for time to time and it completely baffles all my friends. Mixed drinks last longer, allowing one to make an evening of it. That said I can knock back just about anything and I point blank refuse to mix whisky (except with a small dash of water in the case of the really smoky ones).


The people who like flavored fags annoy me too. I gave a girl a a smoke from my pack of turkish royals the other day and she said it tasted shit and asked if I had any cherry flavored ones. Fucking hell.:mad: Listen, mate, fuck you. I roll my smokes in liquorice papers and if you have a problem with that you can come here and fucking fight me.

[Bright Banana Beard]

I cannot fucking believe it that they are energizing food/drink products in USA. What has the USA become?

[Mindtoaster]

Fuck 4 Loko, it's just a trendy 40oz, in practice. Cheap, single container with 5-6 doses of alcohol.

This is my shit:

http://teakdoor.com/Gallery/albums/userpics/13819/olde_english_40.jpg






I drank one of these halfway down last night and dumped Four Loko in to make it a "sidewalk slammer"

Had a bottle of champagne and a shit ton of jack daniels on top of it

I haven't thrown up so much since High School

[Fawkes]

Listen, mate, fuck you. I roll my smokes in liquorice papers and if you have a problem with that you can come here and fucking fight me.

Licorice? Licorice! Licorice is inarguably the most foul tasting substance on Earth, I'd be more inclined to smoke Bruce Vilanch's sweaty ass hairs than that.

[praxis1966]

Licorice? Licorice! Licorice is inarguably the most foul tasting substance on Earth, I'd be more inclined to smoke Bruce Vilanch's sweaty ass hairs than that.

Hahaha I was inclined to ask him if he garnishes his sambuca with edible flowers, but you know, that's just me.

[Fawkes]

For all you uncultured hoodlums, Bruce Vilanch is this hunk of a man:
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_I0QxQdLu8sI/SZtDXWAfzyI/AAAAAAAACzY/kD2U0aHfVag/s400/BruceVilanch.jpg


praxis1966: there is no doubt in my mind he engages in such behavior.

[Pavlov's House Party]

Hahaha Hey, man, all I'm sayin' is by the time I was 16 I already knew the best way to drink Jack Daniels: without a chaser and straight from the bottle. I dunno why everything has to taste like fruit or cough syrup (in the case of alc energy drinks) these days. Bunch of spoiled suburbanites...

It's sad when you go to the bar and order a whiskey, and the bartender asks what you want it mixed with:(

[The Red Next Door]

would that combination with caffine and alcohol kill ya?

[Fawkes]

would that combination with caffine and alcohol kill ya?
Well I'm alive, so I guess not.

[Jazzratt]

Licorice? Licorice! Licorice is inarguably the most foul tasting substance on Earth, I'd be more inclined to smoke Bruce Vilanch's sweaty ass hairs than that. You're just wrong. There's little else to say.


Hahaha I was inclined to ask him if he garnishes his sambuca with edible flowers, but you know, that's just me. I'm not even sure what that's meant to imply.

[Blackscare]

I'm not even sure what that's meant to imply.


Coming from a guy who probably eats basil as a side dish :mad:

[Il Medico]

Mixed drinks last longer, allowing one to make an evening of it.
Indeed.


Listen, mate, fuck you. I roll my smokes in liquorice papers and if you have a problem with that you can come here and fucking fight me.
:lol:

[praxis1966]

I'm not even sure what that's meant to imply.

First, it was a joke, so don't get steamed when I say that sambuca's an Italian liqueur that tastes like licorice; the edible flowers bit was supposed to be a stab at your manhood, lulz...

[Jazzratt]

First, it was a joke, so don't get steamed when I say that sambuca's an Italian liqueur that tastes like licorice; the edible flowers bit was supposed to be a stab at your manhood, lulz... I'm not "steamed", I actually had no idea what that was meant to imply. As for my manhood, stab away (well, stab away at my figurative manhood. Stabbing me in my jollies would just be implote) I don't really give a fuck but please don't impugn my drinking choices :lol:

For drinks that taste like liquorice though my personal favourite has to be Araq.

[Rusty Shackleford]

caffeine is in every god damned thing today.

perky jerky.
http://www.energyfiend.com/wp-content/perky-jerky.jpg

[praxis1966]

I'm not "steamed", I actually had no idea what that was meant to imply. As for my manhood, stab away (well, stab away at my figurative manhood. Stabbing me in my jollies would just be implote) I don't really give a fuck but please don't impugn my drinking choices :lol:

For drinks that taste like liquorice though my personal favourite has to be Araq.

Actually, I meant don't get steamed after I've explained it. And I was referring to your figurative manhood. Stabbing someone's wang is just bad form. Can't say that I've heard of Araq, though... Mustn't have made it stateside, because as a professional drinker I can almost guarantee that I'd have heard of it by now.

[Jazzratt]

Actually, I meant don't get steamed after I've explained it. And I was referring to your figurative manhood. Stabbing someone's wang is just bad form. :lol:


Can't say that I've heard of Araq, though... Mustn't have made it stateside, because as a professional drinker I can almost guarantee that I'd have heard of it by now. Well it's a drink of arabic origin so isn't perhaps so popular over there.

As a professional drinker do you have any idea what "Mahastrika" is? I've got a couple of bottles of the stuff that appear to be from the late 70s (partially drunk, one contains a wooden Orthodox cross) but all the labelling is in what looks like Russian. It's about 45% proof and has a fairly sweet tastes with a hell of a kick after it.

[gorillafuck]

What has the USA become?
It has departed from it's ways of being a place of freedom and a defender of democracy THAT IS FOR SURE

[praxis1966]

:lol:

Well it's a drink of arabic origin so isn't perhaps so popular over there.

As a professional drinker do you have any idea what "Mahastrika" is? I've got a couple of bottles of the stuff that appear to be from the late 70s (partially drunk, one contains a wooden Orthodox cross) but all the labelling is in what looks like Russian. It's about 45% proof and has a fairly sweet tastes with a hell of a kick after it.

Hmmm... It sounds vaguely familiar. If I were a betting man, I'd wager it's perhaps some form of either slivovitz or rakia.

[Jazzratt]

Hmmm... It sounds vaguely familiar. If I were a betting man, I'd wager it's perhaps some form of either slivovitz or rakia. Looking up slivovitz and then looking at the picture of the plums on the bottle I'd say that if you were a betting man you would be in the money now, as it were.

[praxis1966]

Looking up slivovitz and then looking at the picture of the plums on the bottle I'd say that if you were a betting man you would be in the money now, as it were.

Hah Told you I was a pro, lulz... Believe it or not, I've only had slivovitz a couple of times. Once was from this Czech guy who was the super at my ex-girlfriend's building. He smuggled back a bottle of this hooch his cousin made in an old barn behind his house illegally all the way back from the old country. Of course, this was pre-9/11 so airport security was a lot more lax back then. Long story short, I helped him celebrate Orthodox Christmas (which is in January) with some delicious moonshine that knocked my dick in the dirt.