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Sasha
16th November 2010, 12:10
U.S. Military Training vs. U.S. Military Training: Who Will Win? (http://slog.thestranger.com/slog/archives/2010/11/15/us-military-training-vs-us-military-training-who-will-win)

Posted by Brendan Kiley (http://www.thestranger.com/seattle/ArticleArchives?author=1124) on Mon, Nov 15, 2010 at 1:08 PM

One of the many ironies of the drug war has made itself plain in two stories published over the past two weeks, both of them worth reading in their entirety.
Over at eXiledonline.com, "Pancho Montana" writes a brief history of Los Zetas (http://exiledonline.com/the-mexican-drug-war-in-one-lesson-know-your-zetas/), some of the most brutal bastards involved in the Mexican bloodshed. They initially entered the drug war as a paramilitary force for the Gulf syndicate as it waged war against the Sinaloa syndicate (the oldest syndicate and most aligned with the Mexican government). They eventually realized they were the baddest asses around, so split off and have now been waging their own war against everybody and further destabilizing the drug trade.
Guess where Los Zetas got their hideously effective training? At the U.S. School of the Americas, where they were recruited and schooled in how to cut throats and smash the Zapatista uprising in Chiapas:

Los Zetas started out as an elite Special Forces unit—or GAFE—created and trained in the School of the Americas (in the USA), with counter-insurgency in mind: Specifically, to combat the 1994 Zapatista Army of National Liberation insurrection in Chaipas. A few years later, at the turn of the millennium, GAFE units found themselves with no insurgencies to fight. So they were re-trained for drug-interdiction operations and were sent to Tamaulipas to capture the capos and disrupt narcotrafficing operations in the region. One of those GAFEs was headed by a man named Arturo Guzmán Decena, who would go on to be known as “Z-1”—the leader of the Zetas. Z-1 realized there was a lot more money helping the traffickers than trying to police them, and ended up as the personal escort of Osiel Cardenas. Nicknamed “The Friend-Killer,” Cardenas was just starting to take control of the leaderless Gulf Cartel around 1998-1999. Hiring elite soldiers was his way of consolidating power.
Now we turn to Narco News, which has just posted a story (http://narcosphere.narconews.com/notebook/bill-conroy/2010/11/us-backed-assault-mexican-narco-celebrities-lacks-solid-plot) about how the Mexican military has been trained to fight the U.S. military-trained Zetas and other drug gangs by... the U.S. military!

Many of the Mexican naval forces participating in the current assault against narco leaders, according to one U.S. intelligence source, “were trained … at military bases” in the U.S. “Their primary function,” the source adds, is “to hunt down and eliminate various ‘assigned’ targets.”
This military strategy, seemingly borrowed from U.S. counter-insurgency operations in Iraq and Afghanistan, may prove to be effective on a tactical level, but it is a poor choice for winning the peace in Mexico, if that’s the goal, in the context of the drug war, according to some observers.
Once again, the U.S. embraces contradictions and makes its appetites—for drug prohibition and for free markets, for training foreign militaries and foreign paramilitaries—Mexico's problem.
On one side, you've got U.S. counter-insurgency trained paramilitaries. One the other side, you've a U.S. counter-insurgency trained military. And up above them (geographically), you've got U.S. consumers buying drugs by the ton, which is what fuels this entire cycle of U.S.-sponsored violence. (Plus all that stuff about NAFTA, banking deregulation, and the other U.S.-based contributing causes outlined in the second part of The Stranger's cocaine series (http://www.thestranger.com/seattle/the-mystery-of-the-tainted-cocaine-part-ii/Content?oid=5393442).)
The United States—its citizens and its government—has absolutely, 100% created and exacerbated the violence in Mexico.
The longer we sit back, watch and wait, and refuse to change our own drug (and military) policy in the U.S., the longer this (http://www.blogdelnarco.com/2010/10/decapitan-mujer-en-nuevo-laredo-tamps.html) kind of thing (a woman decapitated for reporting the goings-on in her neighborhood) and this (http://slog.thestranger.com/slog/archives/2010/11/13/vigilantes-kick-out-cops-in-another-mexican-town) kind of thing (a preteen assassin saying "when we don't find the rivals, we kill innocent people, maybe a construction worker or a taxi driver") will go on.

El Rojo
16th November 2010, 13:33
sounds like they need to introduce mongoose to get rid of the snakes they got to eat the snails.

what a sad and tragic farce the war on drugs is.

GPDP
16th November 2010, 16:01
And now I'm hearing people want the U.S. military to outright go into Mexico to destroy the cartels.

Mexico is royally fucked if that happens.

Comrade Wolfie's Very Nearly Banned Adventures
16th November 2010, 16:26
And now I'm hearing people want the U.S. military to outright go into Mexico to destroy the cartels.

Mexico is royally fucked if that happens.

Mexico is already royally fucked.

Tablo
16th November 2010, 16:54
This is why you should all show up at the School of the Americas protest this weekend!

IndependentCitizen
16th November 2010, 16:56
Friendly fire galore!

Ele'ill
16th November 2010, 18:56
And now I'm hearing people want the U.S. military to outright go into Mexico to destroy the cartels.

Mexico is royally fucked if that happens.

If the US hadn't already completely destroyed mexico economically it would likely already be in there blowing shit up.

Not to say that US Intelligence and Special Operations aren't there.

RadioRaheem84
16th November 2010, 18:58
I feel very bad for the Mexican people. Their state is so royally screwed up.

What would be the appropriate leftist response to a mounting US presence in the region and the Cartels?

GPDP
16th November 2010, 19:03
I feel very bad for the Mexican people. Their state is so royally screwed up.

What would be the appropriate leftist response to a mounting US presence in the region and the Cartels?

I'm actually from Mexico, and have the vast majority of my relatives living there, so I think you can imagine how I feel.

As for the leftist response... I don't know. I want to say a working class revolution, but that ain't happening. I want to say legalize drugs on both sides of the border, but abso-fucking-lutely no one wants to hear that. So until one or the other happens... I fear for Mexico's future.

EDIT: Just to demonstrate how much of a non-starter the idea of legalizing drugs is... my dad thinks the solution to the problem is to launch a massive anti-drug education campaign here in the States (since we are, after all, the primary consumer market for the cartels in Mexico), showing all the people who are dying in Mexico as a result of the drug cartels, with the message that their libertine drug consumption funds the violence in Mexico. The idea is basically to shock and manipulate the American drug consumers into giving up drugs (and anyway, drugs are bad for you, mmkay?), therefore drying up demand, effectively defeating the cartels. A cultural answer to a political and economic problem.

Do I even have to demonstrate how silly this idea is? But since drugs are inherently bad, the idea of legalizing them is completely off the table, so in the mind of my father and many others, this is pretty much all we got...

RadioRaheem84
16th November 2010, 19:14
EDIT: Just to demonstrate how much of a non-starter the idea of legalizing drugs is... my dad thinks the solution to the problem is to launch a massive anti-drug education campaign here in the States (since we are, after all, the primary consumer market for the cartels in Mexico), showing all the people who are dying in Mexico as a result of the drug cartels, with the message that their libertine drug consumption funds the violence in Mexico. The idea is basically to shock and manipulate the American drug consumers into giving up drugs (and anyway, drugs are bad for you, mmkay?), therefore drying up demand, effectively defeating the cartels. A cultural answer to a political and economic problem

Adbusters mag suggested this much too.

I hate the situation there and wish there were alternatives.

Jeez, this is what happens when leftist movements are harshly marginalized and repressed.

We have drug cartels, religious fundamentalism, political apathy, poverty and imploding states.

GPDP
16th November 2010, 19:19
Oh yeah, my dad also blames the likes of Bill Maher for being in favor of drugs and building up a "drug culture." Yeah, Maher isn't just an elitist liberal prick, he's also got Mexican blood on his hands for encouraging drug use. :bored:

~Spectre
16th November 2010, 19:49
Oh yeah, my dad also blames the likes of Bill Maher for being in favor of drugs and building up a "drug culture." Yeah, Maher isn't just an elitist liberal prick, he's also got Mexican blood on his hands for encouraging drug use. :bored:

Just tell him:

nEGxoJWasZY

Ligeia
16th November 2010, 20:48
My whole family lives in Mexico,too. Reports like this.....
They pop out every single day.
This happening was already perceivable like 3 or 4 years ago (in terms of violence but also economically). A big black hole, that's all there'll be. Not to say, that it's all good now.
Yes,even the U.S. intelligence is already in Mexico "helping out".
I've seen a recent report about drones used by the U.S. government to watch the border (to watch out for narcos of course:rolleyes:...though its known they operate below the earth in caves and secret rooms). And one U.S. government official even said he wished they could use the drones in Mexico against the cartels.

As for solutions....some want legalization in the U.S. and the weapons industry to stop selling weapons to drug cartels. Others want more military intervention, more U.S. help on those grounds...etc.(these are mexican opinions).

What do U.S.americans think about this? I mean...the general population. Do they know what's happening in Mexico and why, how? What do they know and what opinions do they have?
I really do wonder about this since solutions or at least a little bit of recovery is dependent on the U.S....

Sasha
16th November 2010, 23:18
As for solutions....some want legalization in the U.S. and the weapons industry to stop selling weapons to drug cartels.

sadly about 80% of the weapons used by the cartels are bought legaly in the US on gun shows etc.
drugs flow north, weapons and money flow south.
from an liberal/reformist perspective the solution is quite simple; legalizing drugs and weapon control need to go hand in hand.
and to those saying "drug legalisation in the US is never going to happen", how many of you would have thought 5 years ago that an american state would decriminalise weed just to prevent legalizing it? give it another 5 years and an failed narco state next door and who knows?
never say never.