Questions about anarchism:

[Cane Nero]

I am the only person who is interested in anarchism in the place where I live, and everytime I talk with someone about it, they say that the tecnological research would stop and the society would be centralized in agriculture.
Without saying the classical "In a Anarchist society there wouldn´t be order, people would kill each other and bla bla bla..."

So it is really true or just bullshit?



That is only one of the many questions to come.

[Widerstand]

No. For one, anarchists are usually opposed to centralization. The other point is that most Anarchists (if we understand Anarchists as only class strugle / social Anarchists, i.e. Anarcho-Communists and Anarcho-Syndicalists) are not technophobic - anarcho-primitivists are, but they are usually rejected by the broader Anarchist spectrum.

[F9]

Complex answer, its just bullshit.
Anarchism is almost 90% of the times misunderstood and most people have no clue what they are talking about when they refer to it.Even "politicians" with many years of service, they have no clue of what Anarchism is. So yeah, dont listen to them, make them listen to you.;)

[Summerspeaker]

To the contrary, I suspect technological innovation would increase in a non-primitivist anarchist society. The profoundly unequal distribution of scientific knowledge and materials limit the number of brains involved and existing research structures have a firm bias against radical new ideas.

[Desperado]

To the contrary, I suspect technological innovation would increase in a non-primitivist anarchist society. The profoundly unequal distribution of scientific knowledge and materials limit the number of brains involved and existing research structures have a firm bias against radical new ideas.

So true. Further than this, research is not just restricted by capitalism but its fruits kept only for a minority (meaning that the research itself is devalued further). For one of the saddest examples look at the pharmaceuticals industry. A gift economy is far more suited to expanding knowledge and sharing its benefits than a profit-driven private property one.

[revolution inaction]

you might find this useful http://anarchism.pageabode.com/afaq/index.html

[Revolution starts with U]

Most people think of anarchism as a state of endless civil war, rather thana political philosophy; like the warring states period of china. Talking about primitivism and anarcho-capitalism, that is probably correct.
Anarchism, as a political philosophy is the full expression of democratic principles. It is about stateless community activism. Anarchism is not no government. It is no coercive authority protecting one class against another.

[NGNM85]

I am the only person who is interested in anarchism in the place where I live, and everytime I talk with someone about it, they say that the tecnological research would stop and the society would be centralized in agriculture.
Without saying the classical "In a Anarchist society there wouldn´t be order, people would kill each other and bla bla bla..."

So it is really true or just bullshit?



That is only one of the many questions to come.

The predominent tendency in Anarchist philosophy is a conception of a modern, technologically advanced (By the standards of the day.) society. I think advanced technology is vital to the purpose of acheiving libertarian socialism. If you want some more info or if you have any more questions, feel free to send me a PM.

[Cane Nero]

you might find this useful

Thanks.
Unfortunately there is no good anarchists materials in portuguese, only find good ones in english.

What you guys think about libcom.org ?

[Cane Nero]

The predominent tendency in Anarchist philosophy is a conception of a modern, technologically advanced (By the standards of the day.) society. I think advanced technology is vital to the purpose of acheiving libertarian socialism. If you want some more info or if you have any more questions, feel free to send me a PM.
Thanks dude. Good to see so many people agreeing with me for the first time in my life.:lol:

[revolution inaction]

Thanks.
Unfortunately there is no good anarchists materials in portuguese, only find good ones in english.

What you guys think about libcom.org ?

its probably the best anarchist website that i know of, although some people really dislike the forums, i think they have been getting better recently

do you read spanish at all? if so you could try http://www.alasbarricadas.org/noticias/ and i think they may have a Portuguese section in there forums

[NoOneIsIllegal]

I am the only person who is interested in anarchism in the place where I live
You know what's sad? Brazil use to be one the leading countries of anarchism. Anarcho-syndicalism and broad anarchist thoughts were quite prominent in Brazilian society in the 1800s and earlier half of the 1900s. Unfortunately, the 1930s brought on severe repression to the movement, and the 1964 military coup delivered it's death blow.

they say that the tecnological research would stop and the society would be centralized in agriculture.
A lot of research is funded merely to make profits. I think we can live without having to buy the newest version of the iPhone every couple of months. I'm not trying to be a prophet, but I would think in an anarchist society, people would have more time (and freedom) to be creative, and become innovative with technology. To say we'll come to a halt is ridiculous.

[Cane Nero]

A lot of research is funded merely to make profits. I think we can live without having to buy the newest version of the iPhone every couple of months. I'm not trying to be a prophet, but I would think in an anarchist society, people would have more time (and freedom) to be creative, and become innovative with technology. To say we'll come to a halt is ridiculous.

That is what I think would happen, the tecnological research would focus on more important things like medicine, among others.

[Cane Nero]

do you read spanish at all? if so you could try alasbarricadas
org/noticias/ and i think they may have a Portuguese section in there forums

Actually no, I am better with english.

And I didn´t find the portuguese section, but thank you anyway.

[Cowboy Killer]

I am the only person who is interested in anarchism in the place where I live, and everytime I talk with someone about it, they say that the tecnological research would stop and the society would be centralized in agriculture.
Without saying the classical "In a Anarchist society there wouldn´t be order, people would kill each other and bla bla bla..."

So it is really true or just bullshit?



That is only one of the many questions to come.
Actually they are right in some way. Advancements in certain types of technology would cease to exist but it would only be the bullshit that feeds the american/global consumer culture. Also the ambition to research and create new technology would come from necessity instead of the profit motive.

[Stranger Than Paradise]

Currently doing a module on Anarchism at my school and I have to deal with this shit from my teacher all the time.

"I just can't see everyone living in little communes"

"I think power hungry people will take over and revert back to Capitalism"

It's really grating and I hear the same things every lesson. It is so hard for people to look past common misconceptions of Anarchism and listen to what it really describes. And the book we use doesn't help much either, has so many fallacies in it it's ridiculous.

[Cane Nero]

Currently doing a module on Anarchism at my school and I have to deal with this shit from my teacher all the time.

"I just can't see everyone living in little communes"

"I think power hungry people will take over and revert back to Capitalism"

It's really grating and I hear the same things every lesson. It is so hard for people to look past common misconceptions of Anarchism and listen to what it really describes. And the book we use doesn't help much either, has so many fallacies in it it's ridiculous.
Good to see that I am not the only one with such problems. The only difference is that not only are my teachers who say that, but also my friends.

I've heard things like, "That's how things are, and'll never change."

In time of elections is clearly seen that the leading candidates are a bunch of hypocrites and demagogues, and both involved in corruption schemes. When I ask if they know it, they say to me: "Always there will be corruption, at least I'll vote for the candidate who is stealing less."

This only increases my apathy.

[Stranger Than Paradise]

Gotta stick with it. People can be reasoned with. Read as much as you can so your arguments are as convincing as possible. It's easy to get stumped, I've found myself to many a question, usually these are just strawmen but they're hard to argue against.

It's really hard to put up with I understand.

[Sufi]

Inasmuch as I agree with you that people are probably capable of governing themselves, there is another part of me that wonders whether governance or rulership (i.e. the 'just', non-oppressive kind) is a social construct that is innately aligned with human nature? In other words, would a group of self-governing individuals inevitably settle into a ruler/ruled dynamic?

If this is the case, anarchism would first have to address the notion of 'just' governance and the ways in which it can be sustained before dispelling the notion of 'rulership' altogether.