IEET Article Promotes Revolution

[Summerspeaker]

Kris Notaro (http://krisnotaro.com/) begins the piece with a clear thesis we can all agree on: "Critical thinking leads the political thinker to socialism, anarchism and a rejection of capitalism. (http://ieet.org/index.php/IEET/more/notaro20101114)"

The Institute for Emerging Ethics & Technologies (http://www.ieet.org/) serves as a locus for the progressive transhumanist community but rarely openly discusses - much less endorses - radical left political theory. This strikes me as a positive and promising development. :)

[Tablo]

Very cool to hear. I really think there is a solid radical left following in the transhumanist community that just isn't vocal enough about their views.

[Summerspeaker]

Very cool to hear. I really think there is a solid radical left following in the transhumanist community that just isn't vocal enough about their views.

There certainly should be. If you're ambitious enough to deny death, why tolerate the greedy bosses and gross inequality? Capitalism makes impressively little sense in the context of extreme automation predicted to come from artificial intelligence and nanotechnology. The best pro-market folks like Kurzweil can come up with is that we have stay the course or we might not reach those yummy technologies scheduled to end scarcity. I'm hopeful that line of reasoning will continue to fall apart and transhumanists will apply the same level of radicalism to society that they apply to the body.

[Salyut]

There certainly should be. If you're ambitious enough to deny death, why tolerate the greedy bosses and gross inequality? Capitalism makes impressively little sense in the context of extreme automation predicted to come from artificial intelligence and nanotechnology. The best pro-market folks like Kurzweil can come up with is that we have stay the course or we might not reach those yummy technologies scheduled to end scarcity. I'm hopeful that line of reasoning will continue to fall apart and transhumanists will apply the same level of radicalism to society that they apply to the body.

The majority of transhumanists seem to be Libertarians or ancaps in my experience.

[ÑóẊîöʼn]

The majority of transhumanists seem to be Libertarians or ancaps in my experience.

Which is fucking stupid. Transhumanist technologies, such as AI and nanotechnology, have the potential to render markets utterly obsolete - what do they think is going to happen to their precious free market when people can fabricate practically anything they could possibly want in their backyard or kitchen?

[Salyut]

Which is fucking stupid. Transhumanist technologies, such as AI and nanotechnology, have the potential to render markets utterly obsolete - what do they think is going to happen to their precious free market when people can fabricate practically anything they could possibly want in their backyard or kitchen?

I'm sure they can wave the Praxeology wand and make it work. :laugh:

[x371322]

Nice! I love this. Good stuff. I hope we see more material like this from Mr. Notaro.

[ckaihatsu]

Like other members of the Austrian School, von Mises rejected the use of empirical observation in the study of economics, and instead, favored the use of logical analysis. He wrote that the empirical methods used in the natural sciences cannot be applied to the social sciences because the principle of induction does not apply.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Praxeology


This "Praxeology" is obviously the "scientification" of what is essentially the systematization of ruling class ideology and practice, going forward. It *has* to throw out empiricism because the facts on the ground fundamentally conflict with ruling class intention and direction.


Consciousness, A Material Definition

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English translation:




On account of their dual natures of specialty and generality, these functions should be the subject of a separate science.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Praxeology


The dichotomy of 'general' and 'specific' in describing *anything* is a *natural* / *physical* / *inherent* dichotomy, and *cannot* be readily dismissed on any kind of valid grounds.


Generalizations - Characterizations

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[piet11111]

Which is fucking stupid. Transhumanist technologies, such as AI and nanotechnology, have the potential to render markets utterly obsolete - what do they think is going to happen to their precious free market when people can fabricate practically anything they could possibly want in their backyard or kitchen?

Probably copyright on a level that makes 1984 look like a hippie commune.

[ÑóẊîöʼn]

Probably copyright on a level that makes 1984 look like a hippie commune.

Look how great that worked out for movies and music- oh wait, it didn't. Free market advocacy should be considered a baseless superstition alongside religious belief, alternative medicine and paranoid conspiracy theories.