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Hexen
15th November 2010, 03:25
I have stumbled across this video of a abandoned mall on youtube

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At the end of the video, you'll see a spry painted message reading "Tombs of Capitalism" which got me thinking if this is the case as in one of the signs that capitalism is collapsing? Or another thing I've been wondering about the recent trend of the declining (and shut downs) of malls/factories/amusement parks/etc across the U.S. (and perhaps other parts of the world) shows that capitalism has actually moved on to corporatism?

What do you make out of this?

Sosa
15th November 2010, 03:28
There are tons of empty malls around the country. There's a photographer who is known for going cross-country and taking pictures of abandoned and semi-abandoned malls.

Hexen
15th November 2010, 03:34
Well I'm just wondering if the "Tombs of Capitalism" message has any significance or relevance and especially written in a abandon mall?

Lacrimi de Chiciură
15th November 2010, 04:43
I do not think there is any significant difference between corporatism and capitalism. Could you explain what you mean by moving from capitalism to corporatism? Capitalism has always wasted resources; for example, destroying good products to drive up the price, creating artificial scarcity, etc.

Hexen
15th November 2010, 04:47
I do not think there is any significant difference between corporatism and capitalism. Could you explain what you mean by moving from capitalism to corporatism? Capitalism has always wasted resources; for example, destroying good products to drive up the price, creating artificial scarcity, etc.

I'm just creating speculations.

Apoi_Viitor
15th November 2010, 06:09
Well I'm just wondering if the "Tombs of Capitalism" message has any significance or relevance and especially written in a abandon mall?

Just look at any mall (abandoned or not), it looks like a prison. Malls symbolize the tendency of capitalism to erase and destroy local culture - and replace it with a capitalist culture of 'maximization of profits'. Just visit any mall across the world, be it in India, Canada, or the US, and you'll find they all look exactly the same --- thus, I'd refer to them as 'Tombs of Culture' rather than 'Tombs of Capitalism' --- although the author of the graffiti probably intended to say that malls are the epitome of the boredom and alienation, which results from capitalism, hence, the 'Tombs of Capitalism'.

Oswy
15th November 2010, 09:08
I have stumbled across this video of a abandoned mall on youtube

IXWQoVl95Mg

At the end of the video, you'll see a spry painted message reading "Tombs of Capitalism" which got me thinking if this is the case as in one of the signs that capitalism is collapsing? Or another thing I've been wondering about the recent trend of the declining (and shut downs) of malls/factories/amusement parks/etc across the U.S. (and perhaps other parts of the world) shows that capitalism has actually moved on to corporatism?

What do you make out of this?

This kind of thing overlaps with the analysis of David Harvey in his book The Enigma of Capitalism. Harvey discusses at length the increasingly 'flexible' way capitalism targets geographies for exploitation and wealth-extraction - and where they are willing to disappear as quickly as arrive when the potentials dry up. Instruments of consumption under capitalism are thus no different from instruments of production, they will invade your neighbourhood only for as long as it suits their accumulation objectives.

Psy
15th November 2010, 21:33
Just look at any mall (abandoned or not), it looks like a prison. Malls symbolize the tendency of capitalism to erase and destroy local culture - and replace it with a capitalist culture of 'maximization of profits'. Just visit any mall across the world, be it in India, Canada, or the US, and you'll find they all look exactly the same --- thus, I'd refer to them as 'Tombs of Culture' rather than 'Tombs of Capitalism' --- although the author of the graffiti probably intended to say that malls are the epitome of the boredom and alienation, which results from capitalism, hence, the 'Tombs of Capitalism'.
More then that, mall symbolize that the only freedom in capitalism is that of a consumer. The mall is to capitalism what the church was to feudalism, in that the mall (and other stores) reinforces the consumer role of the proletariat in society as capitalists does not just want to exploit workers at the workplace they want to exploit them as consumers so they consume more (this is why a measure of economic health is consumer confidence).

aonlineshop
10th February 2011, 18:44
Good post

Antifa94
11th February 2011, 02:42
There are tons of empty malls around the country. There's a photographer who is known for going cross-country and taking pictures of abandoned and semi-abandoned malls.

Name please?

Sosa
11th February 2011, 19:17
Name please?

Sorry, I don't have a name for you. I remember seeing his blog online but I can't remember a name.

L.A.P.
11th February 2011, 19:54
I always like to refer to a mall as capitalism's vomit and at the biggest mall I went to, there was a place called "Brandsmart USA" deep in the back where basically all of its clearance items get pushed to and it kind of looked like it was shaped like a whirlpool or vortex of capitalism which amused me.

Rafiq
11th February 2011, 19:55
Will make very interesting museums under Communism.

Psy
11th February 2011, 20:27
Will make very interesting museums under Communism.
Na they would make better warehouses hell most have enough floor space to even make a good depot for trains while having enough space for a switching yard in the parking lot.

It would be a far more better if you simply have memorial plaques where malls where and the land being put use to much better use.

RedSquare
11th February 2011, 22:41
For something to be a tomb, the capitalist system would have to be dead. However, it does illustrate beyond words the waste which the system generates and how it lies idle while some of the most vulnerable go without shelter.

Reznov
11th February 2011, 22:57
I use to love hanging out at malls with my friends, and I remember never being able to afford anything in it and how much I use to despise it, be it the horribly overpriced clothing or the expensive food (Other then hanging out with friends)

I consider it a breeding ground for class-consciousnes thinking. (Unless your one of the rich or middle class who are purchasing products from it obviosuly.)

the last donut of the night
11th February 2011, 23:46
no, shopping malls are places where scene kids go get band shirts at hot topics. wars are the tombs of capitalism