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Sosa
15th November 2010, 01:24
http://www.examiner.com/atheism-in-philadelphia/palestinian-arrested-for-being-an-atheist
L.A.P.
15th November 2010, 02:03
This doesn't really help the cause for Palestine if they're going to go around arresting people for atheism. What saddens me is that this happened in the area that is predominantly governed by Fatah, I would expect Hamas to do something like this but it's a shame that Fatah is pulling this.
freepalestine
15th November 2010, 03:37
blatant zionist propaganda/lies
please delete thread
Sosa
15th November 2010, 03:42
blatant zionist propaganda/lies
please delete thread
no its not
Sam_b
15th November 2010, 03:45
Don't see a source.
Sosa
15th November 2010, 03:56
Don't see a source.
A simple google search should be enough.
http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5iGirFhfPS8mc9cj0KHaAaLW5yk2A?docId=800adda8d 2fb477abefa7df790b2e655
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/11/12/walid-husayin-palestinian_n_782746.html
Sam_b
15th November 2010, 04:00
Don't 'simple google search' me son. If you're going to post a news link at least post one that cites its sources.
Sosa
15th November 2010, 04:01
Don't 'simple google search' me son. If you're going to post a news link at least post one that cites its sources.
I just did.
The Vegan Marxist
15th November 2010, 04:02
A simple google search should be enough.
http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5iGirFhfPS8mc9cj0KHaAaLW5yk2A?docId=800adda8d 2fb477abefa7df790b2e655
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/11/12/walid-husayin-palestinian_n_782746.html
Oh give me a fucking break. Such western bullshit. I know a Palestinian on facebook who completely demonizes all those of the PLO & calls them terrorists, yet I don't see him being locked up for saying such. That it being much worse than stating he's an atheist, I seriously doubt this story being told within western news channels are of the whole story.
freepalestine
15th November 2010, 04:05
A simple google search should be enough.
http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5iGirFhfPS8mc9cj0KHaAaLW5yk2A?docId=800adda8d 2fb477abefa7df790b2e655
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/11/12/walid-husayin-palestinian_n_782746.html
still if the huffington post article is true,it's nothing like the original article and thread title.
synthesis
15th November 2010, 07:59
If the Huffington Post article is true, I like this guy.
If that wasn't enough, [Husayin] is also suspected of creating three Facebook groups in which he sarcastically declared himself God and ordered his followers, among other things, to smoke marijuana in verses that spoof the Muslim holy book, the Quran.
freepalestine
15th November 2010, 08:15
the article above ,reminds me of this story of a evangelical convert/case
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/8533952.stm
Hamas man's son Mosab Hassan Yousef 'was Israeli spy'
By Patrick Jackson
BBC News
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The son of a jailed Hamas leader who converted to Christianity and moved to California has gone public to say that he spied for Israel. Speaking before the release of a book about his life, Mosab Hassan Yousef made the assertion in an interview for Israel's Haaretz newspaper.
A former deputy head of Israel's Shin Bet intelligence service told BBC World Service he had been one of its agents.
But a Hamas leader dismissed the report as a slander on the Islamist group.
Mr Yousef, 32, is a son of Sheikh Hassan Yousef, a senior Hamas figure in the West Bank, who is currently serving a six-year prison sentence in an Israeli prison.
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If the younger Yousef's revelations are true, and he did play a role in preventing Hamas attacks on Israel, it will be an embarrassment for the group, which prides itself on its tight discipline and shuns the Palestinian Authority because of its peace negotiations with Israel.
While the Yousef case dates back several years, there have been suggestions the group was betrayed more recently when Hamas figure Mahmoud al-Mabhouh was assassinated in Dubai on 20 January.
'Slander and lies'
Mosab Hassan Yousef converted to Christianity and moved to the US in 2007.
The book he co-wrote, Son of Hamas, is due to be published there shortly.
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"He provided very important information like hundreds of others fighting against terror," Gideon Ezra, formerly deputy leader of Shin Bet and now a member of the Knesset for the Kadima party, told BBC World Service.
Mr Ezra said the younger Yousef had been persuaded to spy for Israel while being held in prison himself.
Earlier, senior Hamas leader Ismail Radwan condemned Haaretz's report as "baseless slander" aimed at the elder Yousef.
"The Palestinian people have great confidence in Hamas and its struggle and they will not be fooled by this slander and these lies of the Israeli occupation," he told AFP news agency.
Haaretz journalist Avi Issacharoff, who wrote the original article, told the BBC Mr Yousef was not prepared to give any further media interviews as of Wednesday morning. [he gave 30 minute interview for bbc hardtalk programme,months after this article]
News of his religious conversion in 2008 shocked many Muslims in the Gaza Strip and he was condemned by some for his "apostasy".
'Prized source'
Mosab Hassan Yousef was considered Shin Bet's most reliable source in the Hamas leadership, earning himself the nickname "the Green Prince" because of the colour of the group's flag and his pedigree as the son of one of the movement's founders, Haaretz writes.
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One of his Israeli "handlers" told the paper that he had saved many lives, with one of his insights "worth 1,000 hours of thought by top experts".
"The amazing thing is that none of his actions were done for money," the handler, named in the book as "Captain Loai", added.
Speaking to the newspaper by phone from California, Mr Yousef appeared to be still brimming with enthusiasm for Israel's fight against Hamas.
"I wish I were in Gaza now," he was quoted as saying. "I would put on an army uniform and join Israel's special forces in order to liberate [Israeli hostage] Gilad Shalit."
Gideon Ezra told the BBC that it was not easy for Israel to penetrate Hamas but it was "doing its best".
His country, he argued, had no choice but to recruit agents within Palestinian militant groups in order to avoid attacks, though he added that the security situation in the West Bank had improved under the Palestinian Authority from Israel's perspective.
Asked about his own experience of recruiting Palestinian agents, he said there were many motives for them to turn spy.
"It depends on each person," he added. "You can't do it through threats. If they don't do it willingly, you can't force them to be your informant."
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