I'm mildly worried about...

[Fawkes]

... my (not so) recent habit of eating 5-6 slices of bacon every day.

[BuddhaInBabylon]

i want to say you should be...but i once heard a report given about the incredibly important role that fat has in our diets. In a test done with lab rats, one set of rats was given a diet of pure protein. no fats what-so-ever, and another set of rats was given a diet rich in fats and protein as well. The rats deprived of fats in their diet developed all kinds of skin problems to the extent that their fur began to fall out, their cognitive abilities began to wane, and they were described as exhibiting signs of dementia....how one goes about diagnosing a rat as having dementia, i can't tell you, but that is what i recall hearing....
so long as you are eating fruits and vegetables in addition to your bacon...
and exercising....
:cool:

[Admiral Swagmeister G-Funk]

yeah the guy above me is right.

it is a stupid idea though, just make sure you balance your diet. too much bacon and not enough fruit and veg will only make you a fat fuck, that's all you need to know.

[Blackscare]

I'd be worried to, that's entirely too little bacon.

[Fawkes]

I'd be worried to, that's entirely too little bacon.

yesyeah

[Fawkes]

yeah the guy above me is right.

it is a stupid idea though, just make sure you balance your diet. too much bacon and not enough fruit and veg will only make you a fat fuck, that's all you need to know.

Your name is almost "lard"

[Niccolò Rossi]

Theres nothing wrong with eating that much bacon, necessarily. Lately I've put on way too much fat for my liking. I'm going to try and loose some of it by making some changes to my diet starting in 2 weeks time. This will involve possibly doubling the number of whole eggs I eat in a day (a dozen, up from 6), eating alot more red meat and a shit-load of full-fat cheese, bacon, salami, sausages, olive oil and other 'artery clogging' goodies.

Nic.

[Niccolò Rossi]

too much bacon and not enough fruit and veg will only make you a fat fuck, that's all you need to know.

Too much fruit and (certain) veg will also make you a fat fuck. It's not so simple.

Nic.

[¿Que?]

Dude, I hear you. There's this fucking Kolache place I pass by everyday on my way to work, and fuck it all if I can't fucking stop in every day to grab me a sausage and cheese or bacon and cheese. I'm only getting fatter.

[Os Cangaceiros]

The existence of bacon is almost enough to make me believe in a higher power.

[Quail]

That is quite a lot of bacon, but provided you eat other stuff in addition to the bacon then maybe it isn't so bad?

[Vanguard1917]

There's always this vegi bacon (with a slightly communist-sounding brand name to boot).

http://www.blastmilk.com/blog/archives/back-bacon-300.gif

[Bad Grrrl Agro]

... my (not so) recent habit of eating 5-6 slices of bacon every day.
I'd rather not have to deal with cops at all.

[ʇsıɥɔɹɐuɐ ıɯɐbıɹo]

There's always this vegi bacon (with a slightly communist-sounding brand name to boot).

http://www.blastmilk.com/blog/archives/back-bacon-300.gif

Morning Star is an alternate name for Lucifer, so maybe more of a secretly satanist name?

ALSO: Tactical Bacon

http://blogs.knoxnews.com/silence/Bacon_Front.jpg

We're gonna need some of this when the Rev comes, to pass around as rations.

[ʇsıɥɔɹɐuɐ ıɯɐbıɹo]

I'd rather not have to deal with cops at all.

Hahaha, I just saw this and it made me smile.

[ÑóẊîöʼn]

Using the figures on this page (http://www.calories-nutrition.buddyslim.com/bacon-fried-per-slice/), 6 slices of fried bacon constitute 276 calories in addition to whatever else you're taking in.

Depending on how much you are already eating, you may find it a good idea to raise your activity levels.

[ZeroNowhere]

it is a stupid idea though, just make sure you balance your diet. too much bacon and not enough fruit and veg will only make you a fat fuck, that's all you need to know.
One can easily have a balanced diet and put on a fair bit of weight. Fruits and vegetables contain calories as well.

[Taikand]

Using the figures on this page (http://www.calories-nutrition.buddyslim.com/bacon-fried-per-slice/), 6 slices of fried bacon constitute 276 calories in addition to whatever else you're taking in.

Depending on how much you are already eating, you may find it a good idea to raise your activity levels.

This post and this user is made out of pure WIN.

[Admiral Swagmeister G-Funk]

One can easily have a balanced diet and put on a fair bit of weight. Fruits and vegetables contain calories as well.
so you balance it, don't eat 6 bits of bacon, instead eat 2 bits of bacon for breakfast, 2 pieces of fruit for lunch and a dinner with a decent amount of vegetables. I'm not saying eat 6 vegetables for every 6 pieces of bacon.

eating 6 rashers of bacon is just unhealthy and unnecessary..

[synthesis]

This will involve possibly doubling the number of whole eggs I eat in a day (a dozen, up from 6), eating alot more red meat and a shit-load of full-fat cheese, bacon, salami, sausages, olive oil and other 'artery clogging' goodies.

Nic.

I just popped a semi.

[Fawkes]

There's always this vegi bacon (with a slightly communist-sounding brand name to boot).

http://www.blastmilk.com/blog/archives/back-bacon-300.gif

Fuck you.

And fuck all yall haters, if anything, I am eating decidedly too little bacon. And I could definitely use a weight gain. a-holes

[Niccolò Rossi]

eating 6 rashers of bacon is just unhealthy and unnecessary..

For some, maybe.


I just popped a semi.

What is a semi?

Nic.

[Niccolò Rossi]

There's always this vegi bacon (with a slightly communist-sounding brand name to boot).

http://www.blastmilk.com/blog/archives/back-bacon-300.gif

Jesus Christ. Who eats this shit? What the fuck is it even made out of?

Nic.

[Fawkes]

What is a semi?

Nic.

disappointing

[Niccolò Rossi]

disappointing

Urban dictionary tells me: "Not quite and erection, but getting there".

Am I doing it right?

Nic.

[Fawkes]

Yes. It's disappointing in a sexual context though.

[Quail]

Using the figures on this page (http://www.calories-nutrition.buddyslim.com/bacon-fried-per-slice/), 6 slices of fried bacon constitute 276 calories in addition to whatever else you're taking in.

Depending on how much you are already eating, you may find it a good idea to raise your activity levels.
276 calories for 6 slices of bacon? Seriously, what fucking planet are you living on??? I'm glad I'm a veggi purely so I can avoid the disgusting cals.

[Niccolò Rossi]

276 calories for 6 slices of bacon? Seriously, what fucking planet are you living on??? I'm glad I'm a veggi purely so I can avoid the disgusting cals.

What are you on about? A gram of protein and a gram of carbohydrate have an approximately equivalent caloric density. Not to forget also that proteins have a much greater thermic effect on the body, using more calories in the process of digestion. Whilst fats are calorie dense they also plan an essential role in human metabolic functions such as the production of hormes. Unfortunately fats and proteins are usually what vegetarian diets are severly lacking in.

Besides, 276 calories is nothing. Relax.

Nic.

[Noinu]

One can easily have a balanced diet and put on a fair bit of weight. Fruits and vegetables contain calories as well.

Sure fruits and vegetables have calories too, but not all calories get distributed equally in the human digestive system. For example there are a few vegetables, bell peppers I think were among them, that can burn calories as well. And from most fruit for example, calories are usually not transferred into fat deposits.

[ÑóẊîöʼn]

276 calories for 6 slices of bacon? Seriously, what fucking planet are you living on??? I'm glad I'm a veggi purely so I can avoid the disgusting cals.

Disgusting? How so?

UK Department of Health Estimated Average Requirements (EAR) are a daily calorie intake of 1940 calories per day for women and 2550 for men.

Even for women, six slices of bacon provides less than a third of average daily requirements - it would certainly be possible for men to have six slices a day, especially if they were physically active.

[Il Medico]

276 calories for 6 slices of bacon? Seriously, what fucking planet are you living on??? I'm glad I'm a veggi purely so I can avoid the disgusting cals.
haha, what? 276 cals is nothing. Vegetarians are getting funnier each day.

[revolution inaction]

Disgusting? How so?

UK Department of Health Estimated Average Requirements (EAR) are a daily calorie intake of 1940 calories per day for women and 2550 for men.

Even for women, six slices of bacon provides less than a third of average daily requirements - it would certainly be possible for men to have six slices a day, especially if they were physically active.

so he should really be eating 18 slices :D

[Bandito]

Know what may sound ridiculous?

Bacon is actually healthy when it comes from a home grown, naturally fed pig. It has zero saturated fat and no signs of bad cholesterol. It has massive loads of energy and good protein, so it is considered the best natural supplement for body building and fitness, because all energy from it goes to your muscles, and not a tiny bit to your beer belly.

But if you live in the States, yes, you should be worried. Bacon I ate there is absolutely the grossest piece of elastic, saltless and tasteless crap ever. If you get it homegrown, bravo. :)

[gorillafuck]

I'd be worried to, that's entirely too little bacon.
A dangerously low amount.

[Blackscare]

Bacon is actually healthy when it comes from a home grown, naturally fed pig.

I know a guy who grows some dank-ass hydroponic piggie.

[Niccolò Rossi]

And from most fruit for example, calories are usually not transferred into fat deposits.

I'm sorry but this is plainly untrue.


It has zero saturated fat

This is also untrue. All aminal fat contains saturated fat. Of course saying that, saturated fat is not the big baddy it's made out to be.

The big problem with bacon, as you note, is (more often than not) the high levels of sodium and nitrates used in the curing process.

Nic.

[Noinu]

I'm sorry but this is plainly untrue.

I would like you to point me to that research.

[Fawkes]

Guys, this discussion is moving into dangerous territory. This is meant to be a serious discourse on the glory of bacon/shittyness of people that don't like it.

[Niccolò Rossi]

I would like you to point me to that research.

Actually, I was going to ask for the same in my original post but I thought it would be overkill.

A calorie is a calorie whether it comes from a peice of fruit or a plate of bacon.


Guys, this discussion is moving into dangerous territory. This is meant to be a serious discourse on the glory of bacon/shittyness of people that don't like it.

I am Nic, destroyer of threads.

Nic.

[KC]

Theres nothing wrong with eating that much bacon, necessarily. Lately I've put on way too much fat for my liking. I'm going to try and loose some of it by making some changes to my diet starting in 2 weeks time. This will involve possibly doubling the number of whole eggs I eat in a day (a dozen, up from 6), eating alot more red meat and a shit-load of full-fat cheese, bacon, salami, sausages, olive oil and other 'artery clogging' goodies.

Yeah I'm currently on a keto diet so every morning I get to make a huge delicious omelette out of 7 whole eggs and 2 tbsp of Olive Oil. I love waking up in the morning (aside from my fucking 75 minutes of cardio, barf).

Although I wouldn't recommend what you're doing. Why don't you stick to lean meats and fish oil? Seriously, my entire diet consists of BS Chicken Breast, Protein Isolate, Eggs and Tuna as main sources of protein and Olive Oil/Natural Peanut Butter/Fish Oil as main sources of fat.



A calorie is a calorie whether it comes from a peice of fruit or a plate of bacon.

This is stupid. Yes, if you eat at a caloric deficit you're going to lose weight. However, where that weight comes from is dependent upon what you're actually eating. This is why, for example, my cardio every morning consists of low intensity cardio on the elliptical over a longer period, because that prioritizes the consumption of body fat for fuel as opposed to glycogen. If I did high intensity cardio I would be losing much more muscle mass relative to body fat loss.

[Magón]

The only way you can tell you've eaten enough bacon is when your heart starts to hurt. At that time, call 911 or whatever, have them then trade your heart for a Cow's heart and continue from where you left off.

It's the only logical thing to do. :lol:

[Il Medico]

I am Nic, destroyer of threads.

Nic.
User title, right now!

[Niccolò Rossi]

Yeah I'm currently on a keto diet so every morning I get to make a huge delicious omelette out of 7 whole eggs and 2 tbsp of Olive Oil. I love waking up in the morning (aside from my fucking 75 minutes of cardio, barf).

Although I wouldn't recommend what you're doing. Why don't you stick to lean meats and fish oil? Seriously, my entire diet consists of BS Chicken Breast, Protein Isolate, Eggs and Tuna as main sources of protein and Olive Oil/Natural Peanut Butter/Fish Oil as main sources of fat.

I'm not going Keto, I'll be doing the 'Anabolic Diet'. Similar to Keto with the addition of weekly carb re-feeds. So Mon-Fri is 70% Fats, 30% Protein, Sat/Sat-Sun will be 70% carbs. This helps manipulate your bodies production of insulin, testosterone, GH and IGF-1.

Besides, if your macros are the same, whats the difference between eating cheese and sausage vs. chicken breast and olive oil?*

*Obviously processing, lactose, etc. but its a metaphor.


Yes, if you eat at a caloric deficit you're going to lose weight. However, where that weight comes from is dependent upon what you're actually eating.

Of course, I agree with you I never said otherwise. Fact remains, a calorie is a calorie. Its a unit of energy. Nutrition is a whole nother ball game.


This is why, for example, my cardio every morning consists of low intensity cardio on the elliptical over a longer period, because that prioritizes the consumption of body fat for fuel as opposed to glycogen. If I did high intensity cardio I would be losing much more muscle mass relative to body fat loss.

Do you do it on an empty stomach?

Nic.

[KC]

Of course, I agree with you I never said otherwise. Fact remains, a calorie is a calorie. Its a unit of energy. Nutrition is a whole nother ball game.

Okay well it's dumb to talk about losing weight. Nobody wants to lose weight, they want to lose fat. Besides, muscles assist in breaking down fat by increasing your caloric maintenance level, so it's counterproductive to break down muscle tissue for energy. Now you're just being a smartass.


Do you do it on an empty stomach?

Yep, I wake up take a teaspoon of metamucil and go do 75 mins of cardio. In the next week or two I'll probably actually be upping it and adding an evening cardio session. I've heard people ***** about it (and I know that it's a big debate in the fitness community), but the only thing people ever say is that your energy levels are really low if you do cardio in the morning on an empty stomach. That never bothered me because I drink like 10 cups of coffee a day anyways.

Cutting fucking sucks!

[Tablo]

I know a guy who grows some dank-ass hydroponic piggie.
Could you hook me up?

[Niccolò Rossi]

Now you're just being a smartass.

:tt2:


I've heard people ***** about it (and I know that it's a big debate in the fitness community),

Yeah, this is what I was thinking. It is somewhat controversial. Personally it's something I'd never do. A strictly dietary route with some additional conditioning work (hill sprints, sled dragging, prowler pushing, barbell complexes) is were I'd put my money, personally.

Nic.

[KC]

Meh That's not fast enough. I'm doing keto with mad cardio to cut as fast as possible.

[Niccolò Rossi]

Meh That's not fast enough. I'm doing keto with mad cardio to cut as fast as possible.

Yeah, I understand. Different priorities. Nothing wrong with that.

Besides, why would anyone take my advice on cutting. I'm a fat fuck. LOL

Nic.

[John "Eh" MacDonald]

tomorrow morning I've decided I'm either going to fry up a pound of Canadian bacon and cook a couple of greasy sausages or make Tyrlops famous bacon roulade or whatever he called that heartstopper. The last time I had it i was constipated for 5 days.

[Quail]

Eh, was very drunk when I made that post :blushing:

I just like healthy food, and have had problems with eating for so long I don't even know what a normal diet looks like anymore. I'm sure bacon can be healthy, but before I stopped eating meat it was one of those foods that terrified me with its unhealthiness.

[WeAreReborn]

Eh, was very drunk when I made that post :blushing:

I just like healthy food, and have had problems with eating for so long I don't even know what a normal diet looks like anymore. I'm sure bacon can be healthy, but before I stopped eating meat it was one of those foods that terrified me with its unhealthiness.
It isn't "healthy" but you can be healthy and still eat bacon. Thing is it is a lot of calories without any real amount of nutrition. But bacon seems disgusting to me, once you stop eating meat you just don't want to go back.

[Quail]

Yeah, I don't find meat appetising in the slightest anymore. I do miss jelly sweets, but I did find some veggie ones online a while ago which made me very happy.

[Niccolò Rossi]

Yeah, I don't find meat appetising in the slightest anymore.

I don't find most of what I eat appetising (although that's probably more because I'm a shit cook). It's called functional eating.


I do miss jelly sweets, but I did find some veggie ones online a while ago which made me very happy.

Why don't you just eat normal jelly? I mean there's a pretty big difference between gelatin and a steak. If it's just about not liking meat, don't eat it, but gelatin isn't meat. Eating a non-vegetarian jelly doesn't have any kind of cosmic significance.

Nic.

[WeAreReborn]

Why don't you just eat normal jelly? I mean there's a pretty big difference between gelatin and a steak. If it's just about not liking meat, don't eat it, but gelatin isn't meat. Eating a non-vegetarian jelly doesn't have any kind of cosmic significance.

Nic.
Sure it would still be appetizing but I think it is also a statement not to eat animals... And gelatin is boiled skin, hooves etc. But I never knew jelly had gelatin in it, I know jello does. I always ate jam instead.

[Fawkes]

This thread is supposed to be about bacon and the greatness of it.

[John "Eh" MacDonald]

I ate a pound of bacon on 4 pieces of toast today with mayo and cheese... Let's just say smoking is not making my heart feel very good right now.

Other than an egg, what else can I fry in bacon grease?

[Fawkes]

I ate a pound of bacon on 4 pieces of toast today with mayo and cheese... Let's just say smoking is not making my heart feel very good right now.

Other than an egg, what else can I fry in bacon grease?

What can't you?

[Quail]

I ate a pound of bacon on 4 pieces of toast today with mayo and cheese... Let's just say smoking is not making my heart feel very good right now.

Other than an egg, what else can I fry in bacon grease?
I've been told halloumi in bacon grease is good.


Sure it would still be appetizing but I think it is also a statement not to eat animals... And gelatin is boiled skin, hooves etc. But I never knew jelly had gelatin in it, I know jello does. I always ate jam instead.
This is one of those UK-US misunderstandings. I don't mean jam, I was talking about sweets made of gelatin. And yes, you're right. I don't eat anything derived from slaughtered animals.

[Jazzratt]

I don't find most of what I eat appetising (although that's probably more because I'm a shit cook). It's called functional eating. I don't see the point in eating food you don't find appetising. When I eat it's always at least partially for pleasure.

[praxis1966]

I'm not going Keto, I'll be doing the 'Anabolic Diet'. Similar to Keto with the addition of weekly carb re-feeds. So Mon-Fri is 70% Fats, 30% Protein, Sat/Sat-Sun will be 70% carbs. This helps manipulate your bodies production of insulin, testosterone, GH and IGF-1.

Besides, if your macros are the same, whats the difference between eating cheese and sausage vs. chicken breast and olive oil?*

*Obviously processing, lactose, etc. but its a metaphor.



Of course, I agree with you I never said otherwise. Fact remains, a calorie is a calorie. Its a unit of energy. Nutrition is a whole nother ball game.



Do you do it on an empty stomach?

Nic.

Yeah, but your arguments are shortsighted insofar as they neglect to account for three things: A) Bacon is far higher in sodium than any other food on the planet save perhaps beef jerky. This is fine if you have a normally functioning liver and heart, but over time these excessively high levels will change that. B) Bacon contains far more saturated fats than chicken, olive oil, or fruits (which contain little to none). Over consumption of saturated fats will lead to heart disease and possibly type II diabetes and certain types of cancer (colo-rectal being one of them). Conversely, the unsaturated and polyunsaturated fats found in chicken, olive oil, and fruits (the avocado being the only fruit I know of besides olives which actually contains fat) actually lubricates your arteries and helps prevent congestive heart disease. C) Cholesterol. Enough said.

Basically, you're looking at this from purely a muscle mass/weight loss perspective which is extremely short sighted and should never be done long term.

[Niccolò Rossi]

I don't see the point in eating food you don't find appetising. When I eat it's always at least partially for pleasure.

Neither did I. Different strokes for different folks.


A) Bacon is far higher in sodium than any other food on the planet save perhaps beef jerky. This is fine if you have a normally functioning liver and heart, but over time these excessively high levels will change that.

This is actually true and something I hadn't really considered before now. It is possible to buy bacon that is low-sodium or not cured with the use of nitrates (which is something I had thought of). The stuff in my fridge isn't though. If you look at your entire diet though, having a 1000mg of sodium or so from bacon isn't as much of an issue for someone eating lots of whole, unpackaged foods which are low in sodium as opposed to fast-food, processed and packages goodies, etc. drinking up to 2 gallons of water a day and eating a diet high in potassium.

None the less a legitimate point.


B) Bacon contains far more saturated fats than chicken, olive oil, or fruits (which contain little to none). Over consumption of saturated fats will lead to heart disease and possibly type II diabetes and certain types of cancer (colo-rectal being one of them).

Whilst this has been common knowledge for many years the current perception is changing. Recent studies (two of which you can read here (http://archinte.ama-assn.org/cgi/content/full/169/7/659) and here (http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2824150/?tool=pmcentrez)) have found no meaningful connection between the consumption of saturated fats and the risk of cardiovascular disease. Add to this an above adequate vegetable and fruit intake, a diet low in high-GI carbohydrates and regular physical excercise and you'll realise the dangers of saturated fat are terribly overblown.

Besides, I will of course be trying to source most of my fat intake from mono and polyunsaturated fats aswell as keeping omega-3 fatty acids high.


Conversely, the unsaturated and polyunsaturated fats found in chicken, olive oil, and fruits (the avocado being the only fruit I know of besides olives which actually contains fat) actually lubricates your arteries and helps prevent congestive heart disease.

No doubt. As I note above, my diet will be very high in both.


C) Cholesterol. Enough said.

Well actually, it's not I'm affraid.

Anecdotal evidence from other people who have practiced this way of eating tells me my overall cholesterol should fall, HDL should rise, LDL should fall along with triglycerides.

I'll be getting all the checks from my doc before I get started though and I will keep regular track of them.

Nic.