Virtual assassination of Fidel because real attempts failed?

[Nothing Human Is Alien]

Fidel Castro believes he and Cuba may be having the last laugh. Cuban officials have attacked Call of Duty: Black Ops' in-game simulation of trying to kill Fidel Castro, and then went on to mock the US's real-life assassination bids.The Cuban operation is one of the first challenges in top- selling Call Of Duty: Black Ops, which takes players on secret missions to US Cold War enemies.


A Cuban state-run website said the game attempted to legitimise killing in the name of entertainment and added: "What the US couldn't accomplish in more than 50 years, they are now trying to do virtually."

http://www.thirdage.com/news/fidel-castro-assassination-simulation-key-call-duty-black-ops_11-12-2010#ixzz156swqJJ7

[Magón]

Hasn't the games always tried legitimizing the killing for entertainment? I mean, if you're not killing Nazi's or Fascists somewhere in the world, you're killing Terrorists in Afghanistan or Communists somewhere else.

[L.A.P.]

It is pretty fucking funny.:laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh:

[Peace on Earth]

I can laugh at the absurdity of it all, but it's just another example of popular media being anti-left wing, content with promoting lies and slander about anyone left of a Democrat.

[Scary Monster]

:laugh::laugh: Its just so damn funny how Castro is talkin shit. "What the US couldn't accomplish in more than 50 years, they are now trying to do virtually." --He got JOKES. Surely, Electronic Arts cant get away with a white-washing of history. I wanna hear some more quips from the likes of Chavez or Kim Jong Il :lol:

[Leonid Brozhnev]

America should thank Castro. After all, he sacrificed himself while defending the Pentagon from Zombies!

[Admiral Swagmeister G-Funk]

In reality this game is just more western propaganda. Funny or otherwise, these games condition the minds of young people.

They are fun though, don't get me wrong, its just that they are another medium that has become subject to propaganda, and these games are put out by multi-nationals who have a political agenda. I've noticed that some of the most right-wing fuck heads I know actually spend most of their time sitting around playing 'COD'.

That said, some games do have left perspectives! All hope is not lost!

[Rakhmetov]

The day Castro finally dies (from natural causes) the Miami newspapers will scream in their headlines "CASTRO DEAD!" But such a statement will be anticlimactic after all the CIA and exile assassination attempts. What a bunch of losers.

:bored:

[Rafiq]

Ahahahaha the Imperialist bastards can only achieve their goals in video games.

Same shit in Modern Warfare 2.

[Manic Impressive]

I think the game exposes the imperialist nature of the US. I mean they've never admitted that they were conducting operations in Laos or Cuba or countless other countries around the world. The game highlights what the government doesn't want you to know.

p.s. anyone noticed how many communist symbols are being worn in the multiplayer mode? Seems some people would rather identify with communists than with their imperialist governments.

[Jazzratt]

I think the game exposes the imperialist nature of the US. I mean they've never admitted that they were conducting operations in Laos or Cuba or countless other countries around the world. The game highlights what the government doesn't want you to know. Perhaps. Then again I defy you to find one person who plays this game and thinks to themselves "well, fuck me, this clearly illustrates what an imperialist regime the United States is" rather than, say "awesome I just shot a bloke sixteen times in the bollocks." (I presume the latter is something you can do in game, otherwise it's not really worth it.)


p.s. anyone noticed how many communist symbols are being worn in the multiplayer mode? Seems some people would rather identify with communists than with their imperialist governments. Could just be they like the symbols of communism and/or adopt it as a joke. When I was a young teenager and didn't know shit about shit my friends and I used to draw hammer & sickle symbols on everything and, memorably, stood up hand on heart for the soviet national anthem in history class. Still I suppose it's not actually a bad thing, even if it starts in jest in could become a full identification with the left.


They are fun though, don't get me wrong, its just that they are another medium that has become subject to propaganda, and these games are put out by multi-nationals who have a political agenda. I've noticed that some of the most right-wing fuck heads I know actually spend most of their time sitting around playing 'COD'. I've noticed that the most left wing fuckheads I know play COD. Even people I know who are non-fuckheads play the game. As a propaganda piece it's no more effective than one of those war films about how amazing the americans are.


That said, some games do have left perspectives! All hope is not lost! I don't play games for their political perspective. I play them for the challenge and entertainment of it. That's why I'm happy to play "Colonization" or the Railroad Tycoon series (sometimes for fucking days on end) despite them glorifying colonialism and capitalism respectively.

[Manic Impressive]

Perhaps. Then again I defy you to find one person who plays this game and thinks to themselves "well, fuck me, this clearly illustrates what an imperialist regime the United States is" rather than, say "awesome I just shot a bloke sixteen times in the bollocks." (I presume the latter is something you can do in game, otherwise it's not really worth it.)
Could just be they like the symbols of communism and/or adopt it as a joke. When I was a young teenager and didn't know shit about shit my friends and I used to draw hammer & sickle symbols on everything and, memorably, stood up hand on heart for the soviet national anthem in history class. Still I suppose it's not actually a bad thing, even if it starts in jest in could become a full identification with the left.

Me that's what I do also I get sad when I have to butcher hundreds of Vietcong :( but yeah I'm being overly optimistic that others may see it the same way

[Rakhmetov]

Here is the footage where they kill Castro. It is pure propaganda. They portray Fidel living in a mansion (Don't they read the Miami Herald which says Fidel lives "modestly"). And when they burst into Fidel's room they portray Fidel holding a woman (prostitute?) as a human shield. What temerity these people have. And to think that it is mostly young people who play these videogames--- no wonder they serve as cannon fodder. This is the only education they have of Third World leaders.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bGHYolRAuBo

I wonder if they will ever put in videogames the CIA raping nuns with dogs.

:(

http://www.revleft.com/vb/u-s-government-t143235/index.html

[Reznov]

:laugh::laugh: Its just so damn funny how Castro is talkin shit. "What the US couldn't accomplish in more than 50 years, they are now trying to do virtually." --He got JOKES. Surely, Electronic Arts cant get away with a white-washing of history. I wanna hear some more quips from the likes of Chavez or Kim Jong Il :lol:

Oh, but EA does get away with it.

Why? Because more people play CoD Black Ops then read about what Castro says about it.

[Vladimir Innit Lenin]

This has turned me off this game, probably won't buy it now. That footage is ridiculous.

People shouldn't chat shit about something that they know nothing about. Completely ridiculous.

[RadioRaheem84]

Well, they couldn't kill him in real life, so video game companies opted for mental masturbation.

All the cammo wearing rightists will love it.

[Sosa]

Well, they couldn't kill him in real life, so video game companies opted for mental masturbation.

All the cammo wearing rightists will love it.

I'm sure it'll be a big hit in miami

[Admiral Swagmeister G-Funk]

I've noticed that the most left wing fuckheads I know play COD. Even people I know who are non-fuckheads play the game. As a propaganda piece it's no more effective than one of those war films about how amazing the americans are.

I don't play games for their political perspective. I play them for the challenge and entertainment of it. That's why I'm happy to play "Colonization" or the Railroad Tycoon series (sometimes for fucking days on end) despite them glorifying colonialism and capitalism respectively.
No I agree. I just think that a lot of these games carry very weighty propaganda that can slip into the heads of the impressionable.

[black magick hustla]

well castro is ancient and he probably is loosing it upstairs so everything he says take it with a barrel of salt. especially because the media is dumb too

[learningaboutheleft123]

I reckon its capitalist propaganda. First Nazi Zombies, now this ? when can I choose to fight for the red army ?:)

[A Revolutionary Tool]

No I agree. I just think that a lot of these games carry very weighty propaganda that can slip into the heads of the impressionable.
^This.

Not even kidding, I have a very ignorant cousin who believes we've nuked multiple countries(Because he thinks some action games are actually historically correct) and tries to tell me China is not part of Asia but part of Japan :laugh:.

[RadioRaheem84]

I've heard a grown 27 year old man say that Japan was a third world country and therefore the anime cartoons he was watching were simply untrue.

It's nuts at how entertainment and ignorance meet.

[The Vegan Marxist]

In reality this game is just more western propaganda. Funny or otherwise, these games condition the minds of young people.

They are fun though, don't get me wrong, its just that they are another medium that has become subject to propaganda, and these games are put out by multi-nationals who have a political agenda. I've noticed that some of the most right-wing fuck heads I know actually spend most of their time sitting around playing 'COD'.

That said, some games do have left perspectives! All hope is not lost!

Idk, I've been playing online, and there's a lot of Pro-Communists that I've come to play with & talk to. It's actually a bit amazing in my opinion, because I was expecting more anti-Communists than anything. Instead, I met up with pro-Communists who bought the game, just so they could play as the NVA, the Cuban Tropas, & the Soviet forces online.

[Admiral Swagmeister G-Funk]

Idk, I've been playing online, and there's a lot of Pro-Communists that I've come to play with & talk to. It's actually a bit amazing in my opinion, because I was expecting more anti-Communists than anything. Instead, I met up with pro-Communists who bought the game, just so they could play as the NVA, the Cuban Tropas, & the Soviet forces online.
I know man, I've seen this too. But take a look at the general games market, the majority of people who buy these games are not communist sympathisers, but impressionable young minds, who will be naturally fed right-wing propaganda through the gaming process.

Its the same with television, or any medium - they all carry their own propaganda based on their own objectives. There is a difference between a well educated leftists (or an educated rightist for that matter) viewing a medium and an uneducated (politically) person viewing some form of medium: one of these is able to pick up on propaganda and dismiss it if necessary, the other is likely to be influenced by it, directly or indirectly. Our media conditions us more than we would think!

[The Vegan Marxist]

I know man, I've seen this too. But take a look at the general games market, the majority of people who buy these games are not communist sympathisers, but impressionable young minds, who will be naturally fed right-wing propaganda through the gaming process.

Its the same with television, or any medium - they all carry their own propaganda based on their own objectives. There is a difference between a well educated leftists (or an educated rightist for that matter) viewing a medium and an uneducated (politically) person viewing some form of medium: one of these is able to pick up on propaganda and dismiss it if necessary, the other is likely to be influenced by it, directly or indirectly. Our media conditions us more than we would think!

Of course, yes. These games will be applied under anti-communist actions. I'm just amazed at how many pro-Communists instead made their way in taking advantage of the game & what it provides. I don't think it was something the developers were hoping would take shape or form.

[MellowViper]

I liked playing as a Soviet in World at War.

[MellowViper]

So does Che Guevara take over after he gets killed?

[MellowViper]

^This.

Not even kidding, I have a very ignorant cousin who believes we've nuked multiple countries(Because he thinks some action games are actually historically correct) and tries to tell me China is not part of Asia but part of Japan :laugh:.

Damn. your cousin needs to get educated.

[Vladimir Innit Lenin]

well castro is ancient and he probably is loosing it upstairs so everything he says take it with a barrel of salt. especially because the media is dumb too

That' a bit harsh on the old man, I doubt he'd be making public speeches to thousands of Communist Party Youth if he was 'losing it upstairs'.

[NecroCommie]

They can't kill Fidel because Fidel is immortal! Fidel is God! Fidel is everything that cannot die in this world. He just laughs at the imperialist propaganda, laughs from his island! I hear that during the revolution, Fidel confronted and killed the grim reaper himself!

[Manic Impressive]

Thing is unless there is a bit further on that I haven't got to yet you don't kill Castro but a double of him then you get caught and Castro sends you to a Gulag. Basically Castro is seen as merciful where as the character you play breaks international law consistently. Like when you interrogate this guy by breaking a window and feeding him glass then repeatedly punch him in the face until he talks. Not a great image for the CIA but probably fairly realistic in that instance.

Thing is with all COD games I think they carry a slightly anti war message or at least anti government remember MW2 the main bad guy was a US general. I compare it to the film Zulu which was a fantastic anti-war anti-imperialist film which was hijacked by fascists because they liked seeing the "darkies" getting killed. My point is that right wing fuck nuts will see whatever they want in anything they want to.

[Das war einmal]

Well it's certainly naive to think that this is all harmless entertainment. But nothing new here. CoD has always been fucking reactionary.

[L.A.P.]

Ahahahaha the Imperialist bastards can only achieve their goals in video games.

Same shit in Modern Warfare 2.

They even failed in the game!:laugh:
Also, we need more games where we play as revolutionaries such as the Russian revolution, Cuban, Nepalese, etc. and the closest thing to that is Fable III.

[Red Commissar]

So does Che Guevara take over after he gets killed?

You end up assassinating a double, from what I've read.

Though to be honest I never cared much for CoD. I played the first one way back when when I was younger, and my friend gave me his copy of World at War to play. Only ones I've played.

I never played either of the Modern Warfares, and I was already expecting bad things with Black Ops for being more of the same, and for destroying Reznov's bad-assery from WaW.

[Catma]

I wonder if they will ever put in videogames the CIA raping nuns with dogs.Actually you do have to torture a scientist. Special interactions appear so that you can punch out a window, insert a piece of broken glass into his mouth, and then repeatedly punch him (because you want him to talk!)

Also the Soviet Union is accused of a bunch of stuff the US did, like taking in Nazi scientists, and testing weapons on the Vietnamese.

[Burn A Flag]

I know, it's quite annoying when the right wing pins its atrocities on the left. Doing Model UN a couple weeks ago, I was in a counterfactual committee of the USSR. The writer of the background info made up all sorts of BS. For example, all the drug cartels in mexico are pro communist and run through Cuba, and also Saddam Hussein is allied with the USSR. The ironic thing is that the USA has been more tied with drug trafficking and Saddam Hussein than the USSR. When Saddam Hussein took power for the first time, the first move of his regime was to carry out a wave of repression against the left.

[StalinFanboy]

I don't see why Cuba is making a big deal out of this. If they had played COD 4 (or was it MW2?) they would have played that mission where the Russians, with the hammer and sickle as their symbol, nuke the White House.


I would say that's a lot more severe than assassinating Fidel Castro. But maybe not.

[Manic Impressive]

If anyone wants to see what all the fuss is about here's a video of that infamous level without firing a shot except when you have to shoot the Fidel look a like
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RULv6HbgEjY (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RULv6HbgEjY)

[Xuix]

Game seems a little left wing if you ask me. Well really centre-left. They want to make money, there's real no political motivation behind this game. Maybe a capitalist agenda?

[DecDoom]

I have Black Ops, though I mostly play it for the multiplayer. I played through the campaign once and it was kind of stupid.


Major spoilers ahead, if you care.






The whole plot is built around these elements of brainwashing and programming the player character undergoes while in a gulag. While he was there, he was (for lack of a better term) counter-brainwashed by Reznov (from CoD: World at War) who was there after apparently being screwed over by some corrupt general. You start meeting Reznov in increasingly bizarre locations (such as chilling in a building in Hue as the city is being shelled), until you find out at the end of the game that he never existed, he was killed in the gulag.

The Soviets themselves are going through this bullshit plan of releasing glorified nerve-gas in every state capital in the US. No reason is given for this other than "HUR DUR WERE COMMUNISTS LULZ."

All in all, rather crappy, and rather offensive.