Reactionary Chatter XI: Best Mod has no goddamn friends, guys.

[RedAnarchist]

New thread seeing as the other went past 500 posts. My last title was a reference to the X Files - "fight the future", because it was number 10 (X) and it's REACTIONARY chatter.

Any guesses as to the inspiration for the title this time?

[F9]

Any guesses as to the inspiration for the title this time?


fuck apoerl

[Imposter Marxist]

Arancho-Communism?

[RedAnarchist]

fuck apoerl

I have no idea what the connection is.

[Ele'ill]

Hooray! \o/

[F9]

I have no idea what the connection is.

apoerl is reactionaty, as reactionary as you can get

[RedAnarchist]

apoerl is reactionaty, as reactionary as you can get

OK, but that's not the reference.

[Nolan]

First page mofos!

[Havet]

9th!

[L.A.P.]

Arachnophobia is a pretty bad title. How about "think of the children" or something along those lines.

[Ele'ill]

"think of the children- boycott candy"

[RedAnarchist]

Arachnophobia is a pretty bad title. How about "think of the children" or something along those lines.

Actually, that's a good one.

Arachnophobia was a reference to King Louis XI of France, known as the Spider King.

[ComradeMan]

Actually, that's a good one.

Arachnophobia was a reference to King Louis XI of France, known as the Spider King.

http://images2.memegenerator.net/Spiderman-tree/ImageMacro/3601000/Well-at-least-Im-glad-the-title-changed.jpg (http://memegenerator.net/Spiderman-tree/ImageMacro/3601000/Well-at-least-Im-glad-the-title-changed)

[Bright Banana Beard]

Why should we think of our children?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XR8LFNUr3vwXR8LFNUr3vw

I wish I was 15 in 1970, so I can experience the 60s and 70s drug movement.

[Bud Struggle]

apoerl is reactionaty, as reactionary as you can get

Diamonds are more reactionary than pearls.

[Quail]

I wish I was 15 in 1970, so I can experience the 60s and 70s drug movement.
I wish I could have stayed a teenager right through from the 60's to now to experience all the cool stuff that went on, but sadly I'm 20 and not getting any younger :(

[Ele'ill]

BU9btoj-z9o

[Bud Struggle]

I wish I could have stayed a teenager right through from the 60's to now to experience all the cool stuff that went on, but sadly I'm 20 and not getting any younger :(

Seriously--the 60s were FUN times, the 70s in their own wacky way were good, and especially the 80s were WONDERFUL. And it all went down hill from there.

Now things are just bland.

[Ele'ill]

Seriously--the 60s were FUN times, the 70s in their own wacky way were good, and especially the 80s were WONDERFUL. And it all went down hill from there.

Now things are just bland.

The early 90's were quite charming.


http://multitunes.blogsome.com/images/kriskross.jpg

http://diamonddusted.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/07/PXJLxufYYnhiwns5nN0W5fHko1_500.jpg

[Ele'ill]

I am going to watch the entire series on the internet today-

Nostalgia just choked me up a little bit


SPncP1VPSss

[ComradeMan]

Seriously--the 60s were FUN times, the 70s in their own wacky way were good, and especially the 80s were WONDERFUL. And it all went down hill from there.

Now things are just bland.

Yeah the 70's they were interesting, there was more interesting stuff to talk about from a revolutionary respective and we had a Cold War on, better intrigues and better Bond films (they made sense at the time).

http://shop.philbearman.co.uk/gfx/themes/09-Seventies/AfroMan.jpg

http://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/seventies_chic_small.jpg

http://www.bibliolab.it/boom_ciosf/imm/abito_mondrian.jpg

http://schellstudio.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2009/11/sesamestreet-group.jpg

[Ele'ill]

For some reason- imagery from the 70's and early 80's reminds me of seaworld and horrible family vacation experiences.

[ComradeMan]

For some reason- imagery from the 70's and early 80's reminds me of seaworld and horrible family vacation experiences.

I dedicate this song to you Mari3L

ry79LzkkDb4

[Ele'ill]

Holy fuck this made my heart stop beating for 2 minutes and 45 seconds- fucking memories

EUGHevBPpOE

[ComradeMan]

Holy fuck this made my heart stop beating for 2 minutes and 45 seconds- fucking memories



How about this....

iOGmdg3-6fo


Remember this....

BoTeFthoGyU

[L.A.P.]

Seriously--the 60s were FUN times, the 70s in their own wacky way were good, and especially the 80s were WONDERFUL. And it all went down hill from there.

Now things are just bland.

I don't care what anyone says the 80's sucked it had shitty music, shitty movies, shitty fashion, and a shittier than average shitty US president. The kids from the 90's may have been unhappy but at least they were thinkers. In the end, I'm sure the 80's were fun if you made it fun which is what I'm trying to figure out now being in this bland decade in this bland city.

[L.A.P.]

Actually, that's a good one.

Arachnophobia was a reference to King Louis XI of France, known as the Spider King.

HOLY SHIT! I'm awesome, I thought of the title for Reactionary Chatter now I'm one step closer from noob-hood to guy-who-spends-way-to-much-time-on-forum-hood.

[Ele'ill]

Where are the 90's WE NEED THEM BACK NOW- this is also proof that it wasn't the drugs that did it to me- it was growing up with all of these fucking amazingly creative cartoons

Ny6n3wF--Yc

GMZRrylZRPE

similar -

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[ComradeMan]

I don't care what anyone says the 80's sucked it had shitty music, shitty movies, shitty fashion, and a shittier than average shitty US president. The kids from the 90's may have been unhappy but at least they were thinkers. In the end, I'm sure the 80's were fun if you made it fun which is what I'm trying to figure out now being in this bland decade in this bland city.

Have a bad time in the 80's did we? :lol:

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EDIT- Well if you were born in 1994- how do you know? You werent' there!

[Ele'ill]

Comrademan- do you remember that cartoon with the main character whose a kid and he has to catch comets in a butterfly net and he goes places?

It's from the late 80's early 90's

[L.A.P.]

Have a bad time in the 80's did we? :lol:

ACpNVD5GMUw

Look at my username for me and then figure out why I asked you to do that.

[ComradeMan]

Comrademan- do you remember that cartoon with the main character whose a kid and he has to catch comets in a butterfly net and he goes places?

It's from the late 80's early 90's

The Amazing Adventures of the Little Prince. That was like 1982!!!!!!

[Bud Struggle]

I don't care what anyone says the 80's sucked it had shitty music, shitty movies, shitty fashion, and a shittier than average shitty US president. The kids from the 90's may have been unhappy but at least they were thinkers. In the end, I'm sure the 80's were fun if you made it fun which is what I'm trying to figure out now being in this bland decade in this bland city.


Anway here's an 80s story. Me and the wife were living in Manhattan in the 80s and she came down to Miami on a business trip. We had always watched Miami Vice--our favorite TV show and we kind of liked the place, so she comes down here on business and then buys this REALLY NICE house on the intercoastal.

OK. So we start comming down here for vacations to our house and we dress up like Miami Vice. All linen suits and pastel shirts.

And no one else is like that. The people living in Miami were just regular Americans. No linen swuits no pastel shirts. They though we were drug dealers. :)

It took us a year to figure that one out.

[L.A.P.]

Where are the 90's WE NEED THEM BACK NOW- this is also proof that it wasn't the drugs that did it to me- it was growing up with all of these fucking amazingly creative cartoons

Ny6n3wF--Yc

GMZRrylZRPE

similar -

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7UQyPXbjL-A

It was drugs that did it to the people who created these shows though. These cartoons aren't even the product of those cool psychedelic trips you get form acid and LSD (that's Adventure Time) these cartoons are what you get when you have a horrible disturbing bad psychotic trip.

[Ele'ill]

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[ComradeMan]

I made a million dollar in the 80s. Maybe I just have a soft spot. :)

I dedicate this song for you...

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[Ele'ill]

The Amazing Adventures of the Little Prince. That was like 1982!!!!!!


Yeah, that's the one.


Are you by any chance into comic books as well- not any of the well known ones but like- the obscure graphic novels from the 90's?

I am searching for a series

[L.A.P.]

I made a million dollar in the 80s. Maybe I just have a soft spot. :)

You made a million dollars? How bourgeoisie of you.:laugh:What did you do for a living?

[Bud Struggle]

You made a million dollars? How bourgeoisie of you.:laugh:What did you do for a living?

I am. anyway I edited the post to something more plesent.

I'm in commercial real estate. Bought a house rented it, then bought two. Bought a strip mall. And then some industrial property...very dull.

[ComradeMan]

Yeah, that's the one.


Are you by any chance into comic books as well- not any of the well known ones but like- the obscure graphic novels from the 90's?

I am searching for a series

Don't think this is in English... good though, has been running since the 60's.

http://multimedia.quotidiano.net/data/images/immagini/modified/2008/03/90728-diabolik.jpg


I like the Crow too.

http://i104.photobucket.com/albums/m200/DevilSoprano/Comic%20Draft/180px-Graphic_Novel_Cover.jpg (javascript:void(0);)



Maus


http://www.stanza101.com/oldstanza/images/maus.jpg


And I still like....

http://www.solarnavigator.net/films_movies_actors/actors_films_images/Spider_Man_the_Amazing_1971_May_comic_cover.jpg


I think the old ones were better though.

[L.A.P.]

The Amazing Adventures of the Little Prince. That was like 1982!!!!!!

You seem like you were around at that time and the reason why I'm mentioning this is because ever since you made that "Drug talk group is reactionary" thread I always thought you were like 12.

[ComradeMan]

You seem like you were around at that time and the reason why I'm mentioning this is because ever since you made that "Drug talk group is reactionary" thread I always thought you were like 12.

Exactly my thoughts on some others.... :tt2:

[Ele'ill]

What was Bud Struggle's original user name?

[ComradeMan]

What was Bud Struggle's original user name?

That information is...

http://fitsnews.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/09/top-secret.jpg

[Jazzratt]

What was Bud Struggle's original user name? TomK I think. He might have had one before that but if he did I don't remember it.

----

Anyway, of interest to no one these are my three favourite comic series (all finished now):

Preacher
http://www.abebooks.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2009/11/preacher-cover-dc.jpg
http://prettyfakes.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/11/Custer_Chin.jpg
Transmetropolitan
http://graphics.ink19.com/issues/march2000/covers/transmetropolitan.jpg
http://sungazer.files.wordpress.com/2009/10/journo.jpg?w=470&h=398
Mouse Guard
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_FVXCQBs2iUU/TEw25-9dS3I/AAAAAAAAD5o/ZuPLeOP4FNQ/s1600/mouseguard2.jpg
http://t2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:NbGOgLHpmr6RZM:http://www.popmatters.com/images/comic_cover_art/m/mouse-guard-1-6b1.jpg&t=1

[ComradeMan]

And...

http://www.theilliteratekniferack.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2009/04/palestine1.jpg


http://www.boingboing.net/images/sacco.gif


Another Italian one here...

http://www.enoela.it/public/blog/uploads/2008/02/nat00200.jpg


http://www.disegnioriginali.it/italian/Nathan_Never_by_Roberto_De_Angelis.jpg


And this one...

http://papele.altervista.org/cortomaltese.jpg


http://max.rcs.it/fotogallery/timeout/2009/03/corto/img/n_01_P_corto.jpg

[Bud Struggle]

What was Bud Struggle's original user name?

http://www.k-rock975.com/UserFiles/Image/bgpng.png

It was that post about the million dollars that got you interested. My brother said he never got so good looking as whne he make his million. :D

Women! :D

[ComradeMan]

[QUOTE=Bud Struggle;1922120]/QUOTE]


More like.....
http://www.zap2it.com/media/photo/2008-01/34753238.jpg

[Ele'ill]

It was that post about the million dollars that got you interested. My brother said he never got so good looking as whne he make his million. :D

Women! :D


I'd rather piss shards of glass.

[Bud Struggle]

$$$^^^That's ROBERT!

[Bud Struggle]

I'd rather piss shards of glass.

Wow you have the patter down and everything. That is of course what they all say. :D

Doing the old "hard to get" thingie. :) I'm reading you loud and clear Mari3L. ;)

[Ele'ill]

I am going to have to check out 'Mouse Guard' for sure.


http://d1466nnw0ex81e.cloudfront.net/iss/300w/680/86801/3097921_1.jpg


There was another series way back in the day- where a group of kids could turn into animals, there was a girl named either Sandy or Piper and she could turn into a dolphin so on and so forth- I cannot remember what the name of the series was- it may have been a special series done for a 'save the rainforest' group although it wasn't Greenpeace or Earth First. They'd fight against evil people (corporations) that were polluting and such.

[Ele'ill]

Wow you have the patter down and everything. That is of course what they all say. :D

Doing the old "hard to get" thingie. :) I'm reading you loud and clear Mari3L. ;)


http://www.thewindowtintingcompany.co.uk/dealers/pictures/safe_glass.jpg

[ComradeMan]

Don't worry- tonight we have Bud Struggle, his alter-ego. Pretty soon we will have Crimson Bud back...:lol:

http://iroc.co.uk/images/heros/commie.jpg

[Bud Struggle]

http://www.thewindowtintingcompany.co.uk/dealers/pictures/safe_glass.jpg

Seriously Mari3L, I'm married. :( But I'll look you up if I'm ever in your area. ;)

Listen: when women start asking "discrete" questions about me--it is ALWAYS the same thing. I am sorry for mentioning my money--everytime I do that--as I said, the same old thing. :)

[Ele'ill]

What are your thoughts on the DMZ GN/comics

[ComradeMan]

Riccardo Burchielli is one of the artists. But I don't know them.

Desdy Metus

http://www.ayaaaak.net/public/blog_foto/6/copertina10_home.jpg


http://www.nuvoleshop.it/portfolio/des.jpg

[Ele'ill]

Seriously Mari3L, I'm married. :( But I'll look you up if I'm ever in your area. ;)

http://www.make-my-christian-life-work.com/image-files/boundaries.gif


http://t1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ST_Zj9I6vfz-dM:http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b191/WabashShootist/Guns/762unmarked.jpg&t=1



This works better than one of those stupid 'beware of dog' signs. Actually that's an unmarked 7.62x39 mm shell which wouldn't be ideal. (this was a joke btw- and knock off the sexist shit too- that's some serious fuck wittery)

[ÑóẊîöʼn]

Red and white? That explains everything.

I wonder what the 2010s will bring. But I'm really looking forward to the 2020s; if there's going to be an interesting decade this century, that's the one.

[Robert]

There is only one wholesome comic book, which you lads all need to read:

http://www.img.archiecomics.com/press/a600.500.jpg

http://www.coverbrowser.com/image/jughead-comics/46-1.jpg

Answer: a millionaire.

[Ele'ill]

Listen: when women start asking "discrete" questions about me--it is ALWAYS the same thing. I am sorry for mentioning my money--everytime I do that--as I said, the same old thing. :)

The only question that I asked someone else and not you was what your old user name was.

Yes, it sucks to have someone use you for your money rather than engage in a relationship based on your real worth.

Now you know how the working class feels.


I'm sorry your isolated incidents led to your sexist tendencies.





(see what I did there?)

[Ele'ill]

Fuck that shit- that's a goal you stupid fucking lion fodder striped mother fuckers (NHL Philly Flyers and Carolina Hurricanes- free feed likely from russia)

[RGacky3]

You getting lonely Bud?

[Bud Struggle]

I'm sorry your isolated incidents led to your sexist tendencies.





(see what I did there?) You admitted you were a sexist. The thought never occured to me. ;)

[Bud Struggle]

You getting lonely Bud?

Don't get personal, Brother. You aren't here to chat. :D

[Ele'ill]

You admitted you were a sexist. The thought never occured to me. ;)

I was aware of that trap. Reread it.

*hint- I am a skinshifter.

[Bud Struggle]

I was aware of that trap. Reread it.

*hint- I am a skinshifter.

tl/dr

[Ele'ill]

Alright I'll help you out :rolleyes:


The only question that I asked someone else and not you was what your old user name was.

This is just this.


Yes, it sucks to have someone use you for your money rather than engage in a relationship based on your real worth.Back when I graduated HS a long time ago I knew of an equal amount of men with women for money as I did women with men for money.

You were being sexist by suggesting 'women always do this'


Now you know how the working class feels.Zing!

[Bud Struggle]

(see what I did there?) Acutally you make a good point--all kidding aside. I'm not saying that it ALWAYS happens to me--but it does happen to me and my friends more than we'd like. It is a trap and it is out ther for us--it's pretty scary, you never reall know who you can trust.

That is why rich guys don't mingle much outside their own.

[Ele'ill]

tl/dr


Bud, they're right here



http://www.profileint.co.nz/images/template/straws-in-a-glass.jpg

[Ele'ill]

Ok enough- points made

Start over.

[Bud Struggle]

Indeed. You are fun to spar with.

All friends. :)

[#FF0000]

Oh hey guys are we talking about comics?

EDIT: Jazzratt has literally the same taste in comics as me except I hate everything Garth Ennis has done other than Preacher and like a handful of other things.

Same with Warren Ellis actually.

[Jazzratt]

Oh hey guys are we talking about comics?

EDIT: Jazzratt has literally the same taste in comics as me except I hate everything Garth Ennis has done other than Preacher and like a handful of other things.

Same with Warren Ellis actually. I, er, don't actually read that many comics at all. The only comic I've ever found out about and read on my own was Mouse Guard and that's only because there is a fucking awesome looking indie RPG based on it. The rest of my comic experience stretches to a couple of Star Wars EU comics, Battle Pope (which was funny) and constantly forgetting to download the Kal Jerico comics and Sláine.

[Ele'ill]

I have about 300 Aliens and Aliens vs Predator comics dating back to the 80's with those periodicals on Alien art and scifi show stuff.

[Ele'ill]

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Yeah that's lame but- I have a good friend that trained in medieval sword fighting- she and the entire surrounding trainees and seasoned veterans would be commissioned by the local police departments for specific training for their riot squads.

The riot squads would get fucked up badly every single time.


They also do 1-5k vs 1-5k person battles with blunted weapons.

[#FF0000]

I, er, don't actually read that many comics at all. The only comic I've ever found out about and read on my own was Mouse Guard and that's only because there is a fucking awesome looking indie RPG based on it. The rest of my comic experience stretches to a couple of Star Wars EU comics, Battle Pope (which was funny) and constantly forgetting to download the Kal Jerico comics and Sláine.

Well then let me do you a favor and suggest you read anything published by Archaia.

Like The Killer

http://www.archaia.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2009/12/killer_cover1.jpg

EDIT: OH HEY I FORGOT! Mouse Guard is from Archaia Comics too.

[Ele'ill]

Yeah but that guy's cigarette is going into his chin...

[#FF0000]

No it's not. What you think is his mouth is in fact a little bitty pencil mustache.

[#FF0000]

I changed the thread title btw

[Ele'ill]

So his mustache is below his lip-line?

[Jazzratt]

I changed the thread title btw A bit harsh on yourself, don't you think?

[#FF0000]

guys

come on.

come on, guys.

[Ele'ill]

It's not easy being a radical in 2010

[ÑóẊîöʼn]

It's not easy being a radical in 2010

It's never easy, I would have thought.

[Ele'ill]

What's interesting about this forum in contrast to other forums is that people are usually semi-genuine here. I would like to meet a lot of the people on here.

[Bud Struggle]

what's interesting about this forum in contrast to other forums is that people are usually semi-genuine here. I would like to meet a lot of the people on here.

;)







:lol:

[Ele'ill]

;)







:lol:

Except for trolls. They tend to 'back-up' in the OI purge system.

[Bud Struggle]

All kidding aside. I'd be happy to meet you sometime Mari3L.

[#FF0000]

we should all hang out guys

[Lt. Ferret]

is it too late to pipe in with two comics i loved so much i got tats of them?

tank girl

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_zY5jXjY3R14/SXoRC7-xMeI/AAAAAAAABWw/Ktud5IoeAOc/s400/tank_girl.jpg


and Scud the disposable Assassin

http://us.muttpop.com/var/us/storage/images/muttpop-blog/scud-the-disposable-assassin/23892-1-eng-US/Scud-The-Disposable-Assassin.jpg

[#FF0000]

Tank Girl owns.

[Lt. Ferret]

those are both tats i have on my left arm. thats my comic book arm. cept my calvin and hobbes on my right leg. also have lt surge from pokemon on my right leg. and a warhammer tat on my right arm.

scratch that all my tattoos are basically comic book characters of some sort.

[Jazzratt]

What's interesting about this forum in contrast to other forums is that people are usually semi-genuine here. I would like to meet a lot of the people on here. I read "semi-genuine" in the more negative light of "mostly-fraudulent" so the second part confused me :lol:

[Ele'ill]

Does anyone else eat Ketchup?

[Ele'ill]

Lt Ferret

http://media.ebaumsworld.com/mediaFiles/picture/704901/80600158.jpg

[Ele'ill]

I read "semi-genuine" in the more negative light of "mostly-fraudulent" so the second part confused me :lol:

lol yes, but most forums are so out of wack that I'd never want to get within state borders of any of the users.

[Lt. Ferret]

http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/photos-ak-snc1/v2562/222/48/34408089/n34408089_34650605_2224104.jpg


this is my bad boy. got it for free. calvin is a bit wonky looking. my wife has a matching one

[Nolan]

Lt. Ferret, what is yellow socialism anyway?

[Lt. Ferret]

a socialism closer to syndicalism, with some, but much less marxism being present than most "red" socialisms. i was a out and out communist for most of my life but as i get older most of the questions i have about communism were never answered. yellow socialism is almost a joke term. im pretty much a syndicalist, and yellow socialism is a good halfway point between syndicalism and traditional socialism. i dont view any marxist government, or any government CLAIMING to be a marxist government, through rose tinted glasses, and i can see some of the pro's of capitalism. which is why im on this high speed computer on a high speed internet connection talking shit on the internetz.

[Lt. Ferret]

in the interest of full disclosure what could be termed most yellow socialists got hijacked into national syndicalist and corporatist parties after WW1 and from some of them fascism was born, which adopted national syndicalism as its economic policy (especially in francoist spain). i have no love for these regimes. its like a trotskyist viewing stalinism.

[#FF0000]

Neat.

[Lt. Ferret]

you love me.;)

[L.A.P.]

I changed the thread title btw

Why would you do that? All my pride I had in thinking of the title is now lost.:crying:

[#FF0000]

Why would you do that? All my pride I had in thinking of the title is now lost.:crying:

Jazzratt did it.

[#FF0000]

Guys I'm playing Shadowrun on the internet as we speak.

[Quail]

THINK OF THE CHILDREN was good, but the new title made me laugh a little.

[Jazzratt]

Jazzratt did it. It was a collaborative effort.


Guys I'm playing Shadowrun on the internet as we speak. What? Where?

[#FF0000]

What? Where?

w/ some friends using MapTools

[Jazzratt]

w/ some friends using MapTools Nice one, chummer (I forget if that's a Shadowrun thing or a CP2020 thing. It's too much in the fucking morning over here for me to bother checking). Have fun.

[L.A.P.]

Jazzratt did it.

YOU BASTARDS! All my hard work and pride into thinking of that title gone.:crying:

[Quail]

Maybe you'll get the next one...

[Jazzratt]

Maybe you'll get the next one... I've plans for the next one.

[L.A.P.]

I've plans for the next one.

NO! The next one is going to be "THINK OF THE CHILDREN!" god damn it!

[ComradeMan]

All these non- OIers in the gulag hut... get out!!!!! Stop playing your games with us!!!!!! Leave us alone!!!!!!! You're not our friends!!!! :D Only Best Mod is our friend.

[L.A.P.]

All these non- OIers in the gulag hut... get out!!!!! Stop playing your games with us!!!!!! Leave us alone!!!!!!! You're not our friends!!!! :D Only Best Mod is our friend.

Best Mod has no god damn friends, remember?

[Revolution starts with U]

The 80s sucked. The only halfway decent things to come from it were hip hop (which didn't get really good till the early 90s) and Metallica... maybe Alf, was that the 80s?
Fill your nose with more coke while you worship Reagan you yuppie prick :mad:
(I'm just kidding ;). But the 80s really were terrible)

[Bright Banana Beard]

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[Bud Struggle]

All these non- OIers in the gulag hut... get out!!!!! Stop playing your games with us!!!!!! Leave us alone!!!!!!! You're not our friends!!!! :D Only Best Mod is our friend.

All these people are just OIer WANNA BEs.

[Havet]

I prefered the other title because this one is quite frankly an insult to me.

[Bud Struggle]

I prefered the other title because this one is quite frankly an insult to me.

We'll be your friends. :)

[ComradeMan]

I prefered the other title because this one is quite frankly an insult to me.


Why? :crying:

What would you prefer- lawn mowers and spreadsheets?:lol:

[Havet]

Why? :crying:


Because everyone knows i'm TBMOR's only friend. If they start saying he has no friends, that means I don't exist. And I can't live with that. Like, literally.

[ComradeMan]

Because everyone knows i'm TBMOR's only friend. If they start saying he has no friends, that means I don't exist. And I can't live with that. Like, literally.

Only in an existential reality that you create.

I said he was our friend and the ungrateful s.o.b. didn't even thank my post- some friend!!!! :lol: LOL!!! Just kidding.... But who cares- you might not exist for all we know? You could be a Best Mod sockpuppet designed solely to convince others he has friends... :lol::lol:

Did he invite you to the Wu Tang Clan concert? Did he? Huh?

[Havet]

Did he invite you to the Wu Tang Clan concert? Did he? Huh?

He did say he had tickets

[Robert]

hqyc37aOqT080's were great: The Cars, The B-52's, The Clash, LoverBoy, Peter Gabriel, and Talking Heads.

[Revolution starts with U]

Tiger style...
TIGER STYLE!
TIGER STYLE! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0wFUSXqf9QE)

[ComradeMan]

Tiger style...
TIGER STYLE!
TIGER STYLE! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0wFUSXqf9QE)

Same old stuff.... it's a bit passé really... :lol: ;)

jhdFK8VQOlM


RtkzCM3vbo4

[Revolution starts with U]

Figures the two capitalists would like the 80s. All flash, no substance. Capitalism at it's finest. :thumbup1:

[ComradeMan]

Figures the two capitalists would like the 80s. All flash, no substance. Capitalism at it's finest. :thumbup1:

Not because they are older perhaps... and have nostalgic memories of their youths? It's not like the 90's was so great seeing as most of it was ripped off the 60's and 70's with retro... just "redone" with technology:lol:;)

[Revolution starts with U]

Hey, Hippocrates was just a rip-off Imhotep. Early hip hop was all rip off beats. Rip-offs aren't always bad.

[Robert]

Not because they are older perhaps... and have nostalgic memories of their youths?

Mozart surpasses all who came after him. Not that I don't like Chopin, Irving Berlin, Rodgers and Hammerstein, Leroy Anderson (http://leroyanderson.com/biography.php), Merle Haggard, Roy Rogers (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XcYsO890YJY), and the Bee Gees. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XpqqjU7u5Yc) Cause I do. All were creative geniuses with a commitment to technical excellence. But so was Mozart (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-hJf4ZffkoI&feature=related). And he was the greatest.

Not enough of that today.

[Bud Struggle]

Figures the two capitalists would like the 80s. All flash, no substance. Capitalism at it's finest. :thumbup1:
That of course was the last decade of the Soviet Union and it's Iron Curtain little buddies.

[Ele'ill]

Went to Astoria today- played on the beach and rolled through the grasses if you know what I mean.

[Bright Banana Beard]

Went to Astoria today- played on the beach and rolled through the grasses if you know what I mean.
Tell me more...

[Ele'ill]

I had fun at the shore

[Lt. Ferret]

mariel you unabashed whore.


this is my first weekend off in almost 4 weeks. i bought 2 JOOSE's and a sixpack of miller light, with 2 bottles of wine. friday night, im going to fuck you in the ass.

[Ele'ill]

mariel you unabashed whore.


this is my first weekend off in almost 4 weeks. i bought 2 JOOSE's and a sixpack of miller light, with 2 bottles of wine. friday night, im going to fuck you in the ass.


You could have simply asked for a ban instead of making yourself appear so foolish. :rolleyes:

[Ele'ill]

I wasn't talking about having sex you fucking idiots :lol:

[Bright Banana Beard]

I was wonderin about the quality of the sand in the beach you attended. Is the air salty?

[RGacky3]

Went to Astoria today- played on the beach and rolled through the grasses if you know what I mean.


How is that NOT talking bout sex.

[Robert]

I was wonderin about the quality of the sand in the beach you attended. Is the air salty?
At Old Cape Cod? Yes, it certainly is!

rM2Xa4RUBCk

[ComradeMan]

mariel you unabashed whore.


this is my first weekend off in almost 4 weeks. i bought 2 JOOSE's and a sixpack of miller light, with 2 bottles of wine. friday night, im going to fuck you in the ass.


What happened to the officer and a gentleman? Lieut. Ferret- I'm not joking about this- that was uncalled for and rude. I will be expecting to you to post a public apology for your vulgar comments directed towards a lady- call me old fashioned, I don't care.

[Bud Struggle]

^^^Seconded here.

[Revolution starts with U]

C'mon. I think he was making a joke. A rather distasteful one. But that's what exchange of ideas is all about, finding what doesn't work.

[ComradeMan]

C'mon. I think he was making a joke. A rather distasteful one. But that's what exchange of ideas is all about, finding what doesn't work.

Tough luck. That's over the line. This is still RevLeft and that sort of language is not on, along with racial slurs and other stuff. That's why I am asking him to apologise too.

[Ele'ill]

along with racial slurs and other stuff. .

I agree, sexism and sexually aggressive language is not acceptable here- it would get called and flagged even between 'veteran' revlefters even under the guise of joking.

Of course I don't take personal offense to such blatant stuff but that's more of a testament to thick skin and years on other internet forums where such stuff is considered funny.

So for no other reason- knock that shit off to maintain a globally accepted forum policy. We don't want to end up like some of the other shit on the net.

Thanks

[Ele'ill]

How is that NOT talking bout sex.


Perhaps I should redirect this questioning


If my username was not Mari3L would it still have been viewed as sexual?




For the record I did not have sexual intercourse by the beach. I spaced out and rolled from the ocean into the grasses with the wind.

[Havet]

Perhaps I should redirect this questioning


If my username was not Mari3L would it still have been viewed as sexual?

It has nothing to do with the fact that you are a woman, but with this:

"rolled through the grasses if you know what I mean"

Usually people mean that last sentence when they want to subliminally pass a sexual information. Otherwise, we don't really know what you mean.


For the record I did not have sexual intercourse by the beach. I spaced out and rolled from the ocean into the grasses with the wind.

How can you roll uphill while spaced out from the ocean to the grasses? Was it really that strong of a wind?

[Ele'ill]

It has nothing to do with the fact that you are a woman, but with this:

"rolled through the grasses if you know what I mean"

Usually people mean that last sentence when they want to subliminally pass a sexual information. Otherwise, we don't really know what you mean.

Sexual information or perhaps non-sexual but hidden information?






How can you roll uphill while spaced out from the ocean to the grasses? Was it really that strong of a wind?

I don't know if you are being serious.

I became the wind.

[Lt. Ferret]

What happened to the officer and a gentleman? Lieut. Ferret- I'm not joking about this- that was uncalled for and rude. I will be expecting to you to post a public apology for your vulgar comments directed towards a lady- call me old fashioned, I don't care.


haha, alright alright. i apologize for using the word unabashed.

now apologize for your sexist use of gender roles and assuming i should treat a lady any different than i treat a man based solely on what equipment is between their legs.

[Raúl Duke]

It would still be vulgar to insinuate that you will rape someone in the ass, whether male or female.

[Ele'ill]

haha, alright alright. i apologize for using the word unabashed.

now apologize for your sexist use of gender roles and assuming i should treat a lady any different than i treat a man based solely on what equipment is between their legs.

How's your training going in the army that you're in? Does the Army help to further cultivate people as human beings so they're not socially inept or is that a separate training that the Army that you're in not let you engage in? When you first decided to join the army and get involved in the army 'defensive unit' did you learn any cool army skills like when you're in a town, city or village in close quarters and separated from the main army force to not act like a complete army fuckwit? I mean, I understand your position in the army as being a member of one of the best equiped and highly trained army fighting forces in the world but the fact that those 'whores' can still pick your pocket and give you life threatening illnesses at the same time sort of defines 'Army Green' in a bit of a new light.

[Lt. Ferret]

honestly though mariel if my attempt at deadpan resulted in insulting you i apologize.

[Lt. Ferret]

How's your training going in the army that you're in? Does the Army help to further cultivate people as human beings so they're not socially inept or is that a separate training that the Army that you're in not let you engage in? When you first decided to join the army and get involved in the army 'defensive unit' did you learn any cool army skills like when you're in a town, city or village in close quarters and separated from the main army force to not act like a complete army fuckwit? I mean, I understand your position in the army as being a member of one of the best equiped and highly trained army fighting forces in the world but the fact that those 'whores' can still pick your pocket and give you life threatening illnesses at the same time sort of defines 'Army Green' in a bit of a new light.


hahaha awwww. all that bitterness must really weigh you down in your day to day existence.

[Lt. Ferret]

hows being an intentionally unskilled retail laborer for a hyper capitalist exploiter of third world workers treating you? not as lucrative as originally thought?

[Lt. Ferret]

It would still be vulgar to insinuate that you will rape someone in the ass, whether male or female.

i dont recall insinuating this anywhere

[Ele'ill]

hows being an intentionally unskilled retail laborer for a hyper capitalist exploiter of third world workers treating you? not as lucrative as originally thought?

Well, now that you ask (again) it's really good because unlike some other occupations (that involve class betrayal in the form of bombs and bullets) I can spend the majority of my time working with real world models of work place organization as well as solidarity across borders and get to know those people who are manufacturing the products, shipping the products and even better I get to see them with a smile on their face when they see me (instead of a potato sack)

[Lt. Ferret]

Well, now that you ask (again) it's really good because unlike some other occupations (that involve class betrayal in the form of bombs and bullets) I can spend the majority of my time working with real world models of work place organization as well as solidarity across borders and get to know those people who are manufacturing the products, shipping the products and even better I get to see them with a smile on their face when they see me (instead of a potato sack)


class betrayel i dont understand, since i and most of my soldiers didnt come from priviliged backgrounds. i spend the majority of my time with real iraqi citizens, men, women, sunni shia and kurds. theres about 100 at my job that i talk to, iv made close friends with a kurdish man who i would sit and talk with everynight the last few weeks. during halloween the iraqi women gave me some candy and sunflower seeds.

im about to go interact with afghan citizens off and on for the next 9 months. i havent met them yet, but i plan on cultivating more friendships and increasing my understanding with them as well.

you on the other hand do symbolic empty gestures at an empty job that will accomplish nothing except to give yourself a puffed up view of your fight on the class war front, where you think that talking to your boss about putting up some posters in the break room is on par with marxist revolution. it will accomplish nothing in the long run, nor will you, so you can drop your pretenses because they arent really impressing or fooling anyone.

[Ele'ill]

class betrayel i dont understand, since i and most of my soldiers didnt come from priviliged backgrounds.

This is really all I need to post as a reply .. I mean lol

[Lt. Ferret]

you contribute far more to capitalist exploitation than i do.

[Revolution starts with U]

:laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh: at that ^

[Revolution starts with U]

One works for a company, selling products that yes, have been achieved and maintained through the exploitation of many laborers across the board... that's every prole in existence (that has a job).
One works for the state, potentially in a position to shoot people. Why is this shooting done? American hegemony and securing global markets for the international business community.
... which one contributes more (as opposed to being a recipient of) capitalist exploitation?

[Ele'ill]

you contribute far more to capitalist exploitation than i do.


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[Bud Struggle]

LT.--Class betrayal is one of those meaningless terms that Communists use to separate them from you. All it means is that you make more than minimum wage.

[Ele'ill]

LT.--Class betrayal is one of those meaningless terms that Communists use to separate them from you. All it means is that you make more than minimum wage.

Wow, is the concept really this hard to grasp?

Class betrayal involves- for all intents and purposes of this conversation- working class (in regards to income) folk that work entirely against a working class consciousness and perhaps more importantly- against working class 'condition'- in order to benefit a system where a top percentage of people hold the majority of the wealth.

It has nothing to do with 'making more money'. :lol:

[Revolution starts with U]

Being a class traitor is all based on actions and viewpoints. If you were a prole, became a bourgie, yet still identify with and act upon the empowerment of the working class, you're not a traitor. We don't expect all proles to remain poor forever... we're about empowering the working class for christ's sakes :rolleyes:

[Lt. Ferret]

haha im far from a class traitor. like i said, meaningless symbolic gestures do nothing to help the working class. all it does is make one feel like a revolutionary without any of the actual work. and that seems more destructive and selfish to me than training soldiers on how to not let a situation escalate into violence.

[ComradeMan]

haha, alright alright. i apologize for using the word unabashed.

now apologize for your sexist use of gender roles and assuming i should treat a lady any different than i treat a man based solely on what equipment is between their legs.

It's not what you should or must do that counts, it's what you do anyway.

We all have some reactionary baggage, and if trying to be chivalrous in a non-patronising way is reactionary- oh well.

http://novaseeker.files.wordpress.com/2009/06/chivalry.jpg

[Bud Struggle]

Wow, is the concept really this hard to grasp?

Class betrayal involves- for all intents and purposes of this conversation- working class (in regards to income) folk that work entirely against a working class consciousness and perhaps more importantly- against working class 'condition'- in order to benefit a system where a top percentage of people hold the majority of the wealth.

It has nothing to do with 'making more money'. :lol:

Oh I know it SHOULD have nothing to do with making more money--but that's usually the way it works. But to believe in class betrayal, you have to believe in the entire idea of class first--which you have to admit most people--or rather at least most Americans---don't.

[ComradeMan]

Oh I know it SHOULD have nothing to do with making more money--but that's usually the way it works. But to believe in class betrayal, you have to believe in the entire idea of class first--which you have to admit most people--or rather at least most Americans---don't.

Are you saying Americans have no class? Why you evil, commie, pinko anti-American you!!!!

[Ele'ill]

haha im far from a class traitor. like i said, meaningless symbolic gestures do nothing to help the working class. all it does is make one feel like a revolutionary without any of the actual work.


This is a pretty awful attempt at justification.

I will occasionally share amusing work stories- some of them involve elements of organizing. Clearly I cannot divulge actual work place actions and such so I keep the stories I tell light in nature. No where have I proclaimed that specific story you mentioned as being absolutely revolutionary- I'd argue that the surrounding circumstances and the main meat of what actually happened are- but you will likely never know about it for obvious reasons.




and that seems more destructive and selfish to me than training soldiers on how to not let a situation escalate into violence.So when a military force invades a country it's considered a legitimate piece of knowledge to know how to not allow a situation to escalate into violence?

That doesn't sound odd to you?

[Lt. Ferret]

i believe class in america is very elastic and kind of bendable as society becomes more complex. in my case, being an officer just means i went to college before enlisting. most soldiers enlist to go to college. i had no car and no money when i joined the army, its not like it was in the Old Regime of France where i was raised in a chateau and rode white ponies all day.

also, i'm generally an incredibly polite person in person. maybe not so much on the interwebs. i think most chivalry is patronizing and i treat people equally. i consider myself quite a feminist.

enough about me though im gonna go play fallout new vegas and wont be responding to anything for a while so i eagerly await more tangents on how im an imperialist aristocrat.

[Havet]

Sexual information or perhaps non-sexual but hidden information?

Do you mind if we drop this? I'm kind of lost


I don't know if you are being serious.

I became the wind.

So you were Gone with the Wind eh?

[Lt. Ferret]

This is a pretty awful attempt at justification.

I will occasionally share amusing work stories- some of them involve elements of organizing. Clearly I cannot divulge actual work place actions and such so I keep the stories I tell light in nature. No where have I proclaimed that specific story you mentioned as being absolutely revolutionary- I'd argue that the surrounding circumstances and the main meat of what actually happened are- but you will likely never know about it for obvious reasons.



So when a military force invades a country it's considered a legitimate piece of knowledge to know how to not allow a situation to escalate into violence?

That doesn't sound odd to you?

uh, no? why on earth would that be odd? are you completely ignorant of rules of war or rules of engagement or concepts such as objectives in war? war isnt about going in and killing everything, it rarely if ever is anywhere near that. missions in afghanistan and iraq now are basically protecting doctors and teachers and government workers from insurgent attacks, as well as diplomatically resolving issues between various groups so they dont resort to killing each other.

Saddam didn't use diplomacy when dealing with these groups. He just shot them. And when it gets stable enough the American troops will leave, and i eagerly await that day.




also ill be honest im not too terribly interested in your super secret marxist meetings at Old Navy on how youre going to switch the prices on items or something revolutionary.

[#FF0000]

that "class traitor" thing has nothing to do with what someone owns or has.

As a soldier or a cop your job is to enforce the status quo / the will of the state, which exists to serve the interests of the ruling class.

That doesn't say anything at all for what an individual cop or soldier might think. I know some cops that are extremely sympathetic towards unions, for example. But when a strike's called and the police are ordered to break it up, it doesn't matter what that cop thinks about it.


missions in afghanistan and iraq now are basically protecting doctors and teachers and government workers from insurgent attacks, as well as diplomatically resolving issues between various groups so they dont resort to killing each other.

well yeah but that stuff is a direct result of the military being there in the first place.

[Lt. Ferret]

and red armies have done reactionary things as well. like suppressing the krondstadt revolt. my occupation is by default apolitical. that doesnt mean i am.

[#FF0000]

and red armies have done reactionary things as well. like suppressing the krondstadt revolt

uh well sure but I don't see what the relevance is.


my occupation is by default apolitical. that doesnt mean i am.

I am trying really hard to understand how being a soldier is apolitical. Maybe the military doesn't advocate for political causes, but they carry out actions that have political aims. That's still political, I think.

[ComradeMan]

Unfortunately, in a military sense Lieut. Ferret is correct. Successful military engagements are usually measured by swiftness, eliminating objectives and the minimal use of force and number of casualties possible.

However he forgets that Saddam was Washington's friend for a long time- he held those pesky Iranians at bay.......;)


Class traitor can also refer to a bourgeois who takes up the struggle of the proletariat. It's a two directional street- albeit in an ironic sense.

[Ele'ill]

uh, no? why on earth would that be odd? are you completely ignorant of rules of war or rules of engagement or concepts such as objectives in war? war isnt about going in and killing everything, it rarely if ever is anywhere near that. missions in afghanistan and iraq now are basically protecting doctors and teachers and government workers from insurgent attacks, as well as diplomatically resolving issues between various groups so they dont resort to killing each other.

What you seem to be forgetting is the part where hundreds of thousands of civilians died during, you know, the war to get to that point.


Saddam didn't use diplomacy when dealing with these groups. He just shot them. And when it gets stable enough the American troops will leave, and i eagerly await that day.

What was his motive and what is the motive of U.S. imperialism?





also ill be honest im not too terribly interested in your super secret marxist meetings at Old Navy on how youre going to switch the prices on items or something revolutionary.

I'm glad because that's not what I'm into and I've never worked at Old Navy although I can see how such actions- however minor- might make you feel guilty.

[#FF0000]

I come back to the internet after an all-day God Hand playing marathon and this is what I run into.

Oy.

[Ele'ill]

Is God Hand really that fun?

Edit- this shit in here also spilled over in the "Opposing Ideologies' thread

[Ele'ill]

For those who have not seen it- ignore initial scuffle- wait for end of video for a beautiful display of fierce.

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[L.A.P.]

Is it me or is posting on Reactionary Chatter better than posting in Chit Chat? Maybe I just like to fuck with the prisoners in the Gulag but they seem like a lot of fun.:)

[Robert]

Is it me or is posting on Reactionary Chatter better than posting in Chit Chat?It's just you. For the true revolutionary, [sung to "Carolina in the Morning"] ...

"Nothing could be finer than exchanging
cute one-liners in chez chitttttttt, chat!

Witty, gay red zingers
typed with my own commie fingers
never falllllll flat!

If I were chief comrade and I had just one wish,
chit chat would become our own exclusive red niche,

Cause, nothing could be finer than unleashing
cute one liners down in chitttttttttttt chat!"

You'd never read anything like that in chit chat, am I right? As to what it
says about your revolutionary bona fides that you'd rather be here than there, well, you can figure that out.

[ComradeMan]

It's just you. For the true revolutionary, [sung to "Carolina in the Morning"] ...

"Nothing could be finer than exchanging
cute one-liners in chez chitttttttt, chat!

Witty, gay red zingers
typed with my own commie fingers
never falllllll flat!

If I were chief comrade and I had just one wish,
chit chat would become our own exclusive red niche,

Cause, nothing could be finer than unleashing
cute one liners down in chitttttttttttt chat!"

You'd never read anything like that in chit chat, am I right? As to what it
says about your revolutionary bona fides that you'd rather be here than there, well, you can figure that out.

Don't stop your doing normal job Robert....:lol:

[Bud Struggle]

Wendy's Commercial that reminds me of RevLEft Chit chat:

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[ComradeMan]

Wendy's Commercial that reminds me of RevLEft Chit chat:




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[Ele'ill]

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[Robert]

Interesting that you post this today, mari.

I was coincidentally reviewing today the harmonica videos of the great Larry Adler, and he appears with her on a Tribute To Gershwin with her covering The Man I Love. Larry Adler played from the 20's through the 90's, crossing the Atlantic on ocean liners during the 40's playing elegant popular and classical music for the "swells."

As an aside, Larry Adler crashed one of Al Capone's parties in the 20's. Al Capone fussed at him, first for coming uninvited to the party, then for not writing his mother and father regularly, and THEN for not attending synagogue regularly, though Capone was Catholic. Then Capone kicked him out and ordered him to go home and write a letter to his mother and father in Baltimore.

He moved to England in the 50's after refusing to testify for the HUAC, chaired by Joe McCarthy.

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[#FF0000]

Is God Hand really that fun?

This is one of the intros to a boss battle.

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I believe you have your answer.

[Ele'ill]

lol

It reminded me of Serious Sam for some reason.

Edit- I think it's the effects that did it

[Ele'ill]

It's time to go and buy some sweaters so that I can stay warm in this stupid freezing house. I am also going to buy three awesomely warm blankets to fit into my awesomely awesome hammock that I sleep in.

I think I enjoy posting here in this chit chat section because it's a smaller user base and there's no contending with ten different topics running in the thread at the same time. It feels more like a conversation and the normal conversations in here are not political. I find this refreshing for the times that I want to just talk to people while I'm using the internet.

[Bud Struggle]

Don't you non OIers have somewhere you can go to discuss your creature comfort needs?

75% of the post on this thread are from BIG boarders. And OK if you don't want to go--but can you expand this section to a kind of ChitChat format. (Which is more what I want--you guys are pretty good posters. ;) )

[Skooma Addict]

That God Hand game looks terrible, lol. If you want an all day gaming marathon play Diablo or Starcraft.

Video games are the opiate of the people.

[Ele'ill]

Don't you non OIers have somewhere you can go to discuss your creature comfort needs?

Yes, but there are tons of posts and at times it feels as though the sectarianism and infighting tension is worse than the opposing ideologies tension.


75% of the post on this thread are from BIG boarders. And OK if you don't want to go--but can you expand this section to a kind of ChitChat format. (Which is more what I want--you guys are pretty good posters. ;) )

Are you saying you want your own section free of revolutionaries?


BestMod and JazzR don't count as they're mods- I post here because I spent 3 years stuck with you all. I don't think me posting in here is alarming or unusual in the least bit.

I don't think I post offensively until I'm attacked-

[#FF0000]

That God Hand game looks terrible, lol. If you want an all day gaming marathon play Diablo or Starcraft.

Video games are the opiate of the people.

God Hand is one of those games that ranks up there with Ikaruga on Gamecube in that it fucking rules.

[Bud Struggle]

Are you saying you want your own section free of revolutionaries? NOOOOO!!!!!!


BestMod and JazzR don't count as they're mods- I post here because I spent 3 years stuck with you all. I don't think me posting in here is alarming or unusual in the least bit. Yea, no problem --you're one of us. But honestly get "right with the Lord" and become OI again. :D


I don't think I post offensively until I'm attacked- As it should be. But how can one honestly think they can be an ANARCHIST and not be in OI?

[Robert]

I think I enjoy posting here in this chit chat sectionBefore the U.S. Civil War, young southern aristocrats in coat and tails suffered in agony through elaborate though stuffy Cotillions, dancing at their mothers' and fiancées insistence to the dainty quadrilles and intricate minuets so fashionable at the time. Conservatory trained violinists and cellists played with all the precision -- and passion -- of weary Swiss watchmakers.

But not all night ....

Many young men, sometimes with belles in tow, would slip out the back door to enjoy the hearty reels and lusty jigs played in the slave quarters by lively banjo-ists until, exhausted but satiated, they trudged back to their mansions to resume their lives of noble ennui.

[ComradeMan]

NOOOOO!!!!!!

Yea, no problem --you're one of us. But honestly get "right with the Lord" and become OI again. :D

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[Ele'ill]

Before the U.S. Civil War, young southern aristocrats in coat and tails suffered in agony through elaborate though stuffy Cotillions, dancing at their mothers' and fiancées insistence to the dainty quadrilles and intricate minuets so fashionable at the time. Conservatory trained violinists and cellists played with all the precision -- and passion -- of weary Swiss watchmakers.

But not all night ....

Many young men, sometimes with belles in tow, would slip out the back door to enjoy the hearty reels and lusty jigs played in the slave quarters by lively banjo-ists until, exhausted but satiated, they trudged back to their mansions to resume their lives of noble ennui.

This sounds more like an explanation as to why you Havet and Bud Struggle are here on this forum. :lol:

[Ele'ill]

NOOOOO!!!!!!

Yea, no problem --you're one of us. But honestly get "right with the Lord" and become OI again. :D

As it should be. But how can one honestly think they can be an ANARCHIST and not be in OI?

My OI section is real life.

[Bud Struggle]

This sounds more like an explanation as to why you Havet and Bud Struggle are here on this forum. :lol:


NO!!! Just the opposite. We are the "Negros" on the RevLeft plantation. You are the overlords. "They're our couches, it's our tea." Remember? :D

[ComradeMan]

NO!!! Just the opposite. We are the "Negros" on the RevLeft plantation. You are the overlords. "They're our couches, it's our tea." Remember? :D

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[Havet]

Hey ComradeMan, you happen to know the song which plays at the end of Moore's Capitalism: A Love Story, which is sort of like a 50's version of the International, with a guy singing whose voice somewhat ressembles Frank Sinatra's? (This last part may be wrong, its been too long that i practically forgot the song)

[Lt. Ferret]

man went to a techno party last night. my platoon sgt is among other things, a DJ and so i went to his house, huge electronica set up, got super drunk, me and my wife took a girl home too drunk to drive, she insulted me this morning, i cursed her out, still very drunk, life is fun. i have corrected so many spellin errors this shit is ridiculous.

[ComradeMan]

Hey ComradeMan, you happen to know the song which plays at the end of Moore's Capitalism: A Love Story, which is sort of like a 50's version of the International, with a guy singing whose voice somewhat ressembles Frank Sinatra's? (This last part may be wrong, its been too long that i practically forgot the song)

I just watched that film tonight!!! Synchronicity! No, I was actually trying to find it. I like Jesus Socialist to Jessie James though by Woody Guthrie.

[Havet]

I just watched that film tonight!!! Synchronicity! No, I was actually trying to find it. I like Jesus Socialist to Jessie James though by Woody Guthrie.

Well, if you do find it please let me know! I want to listen to that music once again! I've tried finding and no luck...:(

[Bud Struggle]

LT. It sounds like you ar treating you wife like shit.

[ComradeMan]

man went to a techno party last night. my platoon sgt is among other things, a DJ and so i went to his house, huge electronica set up, got super drunk, me and my wife took a girl home too drunk to drive, she insulted me this morning, i cursed her out, still very drunk, life is fun. i have corrected so many spellin errors this shit is ridiculous.

Do you know this song?

sJflrwaoQIg

[Robert]

took a girl home too drunk to drive, she insulted me this morning, i cursed her out, still very drunk, life is fun.The girl was drunk and you were drunk ... Please tell me your wife was driving?

You took the girl to ... her home or your home?

If the latter, did you ... do something to incur Mrs. Ferret's holy wrath? You know what happens if you don't treat her right, my friend ....

mqs05VLlHB8

[ComradeMan]

I think Ferret's losing it... Marlon Brando... jungles of Cambodia... seen it all before. If he starts writing poetry that's a warning sign, hey, wait... Robert has started doing that....:lol:

[ComradeMan]

Anyone want to post this on S.Front... LOL!!!!!!!!

Mel Brooks.

yu2NqfISm9k

[Revolution starts with U]

I'm tripping my face off. And I don't have to correct my spelling at all.
Right now I'm in another dimension :cool:

[Ele'ill]

I'm tripping my face off. And I don't have to correct my spelling at all.
Right now I'm in another dimension :cool:

Plant life or synthetic?

[Robert]

Be safe.

[Revolution starts with U]

I try to stick to the naturals. But this was too good a deal to pass up.

[Revolution starts with U]

It's only been 6 hrs tho and it's startin to clear up. So.. i'm a little peeved about that.

[Havet]

This sounds more like an explanation as to why you Havet and Bud Struggle are here on this forum. :lol:

Hey!

[Ele'ill]

There is a new sticky'd thread here in OI btw- Q&A with OI- let me know what you think and feel free to give input for more questions or for questions in a 2nd tier that I'll post in about 3-6 months from now

[Havet]

There is a new sticky'd thread here in OI btw- Q&A with OI- let me know what you think and feel free to give input for more questions or for questions in a 2nd tier that I'll post in about 3-6 months from now

I think those sort of sticky's are just a way to make us OIers feel like this place is actually not so bad - sort of like welfare.

That being said, i'll comment on it eventually, whenever I get enough despaired comments of people yearning to know my favorite drink.

In the meantime, I have too much problems & issues at hand. Like this

http://s3.amazonaws.com/giles/korg_032310/fun_fact.gif

[Ele'ill]

I think those sort of sticky's are just a way to make us OIers feel like this place is actually not so bad - sort of like welfare.

That being said, i'll comment on it eventually, whenever I get enough despaired comments of people yearning to know my favorite drink.

In the meantime, I have too much problems & issues at hand. Like this


Yeah I understand that point of view, Havet. I think that one of the main issues with OI is that it conflicts with the purpose of an internet forum. The main purpose of an internet forum is to get to know peope and with this particular forum being political it's only currently possible to get to know people first based on their political beliefs and secondly to get to know a more intimiate side of who they are as people. There has been several comments made since I've joined the forum about how the regular board has the political stuff but it also has a chat section. OI is devoid of a 'chat section' outside of this 'Reactionary Chatter' thread so I thought it might be a good idea to integrate a more 'people oriented' aspect to it.

That sticky'd thread is as much yours as it is mine (as the creator) - that thread is me (and I'm sure other non-OI people) wanting to know more about those currently in OI and for all future OI'ers.

I made that thread absent of thoughts regarding personal politics and absent of thoughts regarding everyone else's politics.


What are your solutions for OI within the scope of what we have to work with?

[Havet]

What are your solutions for OI within the scope of what we have to work with?

I don't know what you mean by "the scope", but I had already proposed that the OI section be abolished, allow website policy to be more democratic/collectivizing the website (with a special touch: older members with higher rep get more voting power to prevent a take-over from an outside force).

As to having ads or not, I think the current system of donations works more or less. Once I thought of adding a small fee that every member would pay so ads would no longer be necessary, and since everyone pays, everyone has a say on it, which means everyone gets to vote, unlike now where "a small elite pays for it and exclusively has the say on how things are run" (I wrote this minutes after having been restricted. You probably remmember; I made a shitstorm out of it). My logic at the time was that by having these barriers to entry, it is likely you would have less dissenters (who would pay to troll?).

[Ele'ill]

I don't know what you mean by "the scope", but I had already proposed that the OI section be abolished,

The scope would be the current guidelines and structure. This is a forum created for leftists to discuss with leftists. It has a fairly specific purpose. I think the problem with letting OI individuals, even ones such as yourself, on the main board is that OI'er would engage from yet a third position (and 5th 6th 7th and so on) which can derail threads rather quickly- this would happen in multiple threads at the same time.

I am unsure of what the benefit of having OI'ers on the main board would be given that there's constantly decent discussion in OI. I don't think it would be adding another element to the forum- I think it would cause more problems for all parties involved than it would address.

With this said, I think more could be done to expand the current OI section so that there's more control by OI users and because there's very awesome discussions in here it would make sense to put OI in the light. Rather than treating this section like an actual prison it should be treated for what it is- OI helps with forum continuity.



allow website policy to be more democratic/collectivizing the website (with a special touch: older members with higher rep get more voting power to prevent a take-over from an outside force).This is already done to an extent in the Committed User proposal section.








As to having ads or not, I think the current system of donations works more or less. Once I thought of adding a small fee that every member would pay so ads would no longer be necessary, and since everyone pays, everyone has a say on it, which means everyone gets to vote, unlike now where "a small elite pays for it and exclusively has the say on how things are run" (I wrote this minutes after having been restricted. You probably remmember; I made a shitstorm out of it). My logic at the time was that by having these barriers to entry, it is likely you would have less dissenters (who would pay to troll?).The current ad issue is being addressed and there's a game plan in motion. I suggested using leftist organizations such as AKpress to increase revenue but it wouldn't quite me enough on its own.

The small elite group of people that run and pay for the forum (a lot of other people contribute as well but I won't address this for argument's sake) are the ones that set the forum up and opened the doors. It isn't possible to have an internet forum that is fully democratic because of the issues of security and anonymity. It only takes one person to get multiple people investigated and it can become very difficult to tell who is doing what. There are a lot of hidden intentions and that one person can get the entire site shut down.

It simply does not transfer into a real world democratic model.

[Havet]

The scope would be the current guidelines and structure. This is a forum created for leftists to discuss with leftists. It has a fairly specific purpose. I think the problem with letting OI individuals, even ones such as yourself, on the main board is that OI'er would engage from yet a third position (and 5th 6th 7th and so on) which can derail threads rather quickly- this would happen in multiple threads at the same time.


Moderation could take care of this; the OI section would still be kept; everytime someone started de-railing a conversation or making OI-type threads, those posts/threads would be moved to the OI and the author could be issued a warning.

[Revolution starts with U]

I've always seen it like it was an trade union, and OI was the forum for members who don't work that trade..

[Ele'ill]

Moderation could take care of this; the OI section would still be kept; everytime someone started de-railing a conversation or making OI-type threads, those posts/threads would be moved to the OI and the author could be issued a warning.

What I'm saying is that your input would most often have no place in a conversation between two anarchists. It's not your fault either- it would be an unintentional disconnect. The purpose of the forum is for leftists to discuss things with other leftists- if you add the OI element into leftist on leftist disucssion you end up with a 3rd, 4th, 5th position that will drail every thread.

With this in mind if you have another way to integrate OI a bit more smoothly into the forum and make it more of a presence I highly suggest you bring it up here, with a mod, or with the admin team. If you feel you're not getting anywhere I will be happy to act as messanger and post your detailed and well thought out proposal to the Committed User proposal section for review by those that have been here a long time and who have a lot of rep.

[ComradeMan]

Moderation could take care of this; the OI section would still be kept; everytime someone started de-railing a conversation or making OI-type threads, those posts/threads would be moved to the OI and the author could be issued a warning.

Stop collaborating with the libertarian trolls from the other side. We don't need them. We are fine in the gulag- this putting nice stickies up is just a way of them softening us up for re-education.

But we aren't falling for your soft-touch nice-mod nasty-mod tactics or your bizarre NLP games!!!!!!

:laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh:;)

[Havet]

With this in mind if you have another way to integrate OI a bit more smoothly into the forum and make it more of a presence I highly suggest you bring it up here, with a mod, or with the admin team. If you feel you're not getting anywhere I will be happy to act as messanger and post your detailed and well thought out proposal to the Committed User proposal section for review by those that have been here a long time and who have a lot of rep.

All my suggestions have been posted; I have nothing else to add to the discussion. I appreciate the availability though

[ComradeMan]

Originally Posted by Mari3L
With this in mind if you have another way to integrate OI a bit more smoothly into the forum and make it more of a presence I highly suggest you bring it up here, with a mod, or with the admin team. If you feel you're not getting anywhere I will be happy to act as messanger and post your detailed and well thought out proposal to the Committed User proposal section for review by those that have been here a long time and who have a lot of rep.

Apparatchik!!! :laugh:

To think that you were once an OI-er too! :laugh:

[Ele'ill]

All my suggestions have been posted; I have nothing else to add to the discussion. I appreciate the availability though


Sure thing. ;)

[ComradeMan]

Sure thing. ;)


Gulag anthem!

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[Ele'ill]

Originally Posted by Mari3L
With this in mind if you have another way to integrate OI a bit more smoothly into the forum and make it more of a presence I highly suggest you bring it up here, with a mod, or with the admin team. If you feel you're not getting anywhere I will be happy to act as messanger and post your detailed and well thought out proposal to the Committed User proposal section for review by those that have been here a long time and who have a lot of rep.

Apparatchik!!! :laugh:

To think that you were once an OI-er too! :laugh:

I never changed my views- I simply began articulating them. ;)

[ComradeMan]

We don't care about rep either. Rep is just a bourgeois mechanism to create hierarchies based on nepotism. We denounce rep as reactionary!
:lol:

[Ele'ill]

We don't care about rep either. Rep is just a bourgeois mechanism to create hierarchies based on nepotism. We denounce rep as reactionary!
:lol:

Havet is the one that mentioned rep/veteran status and Bud Struggle is the latest to mention OI reform by making it a bit more chit-chaty. ;)


Apparently there is no 'we' in your team. I'm sorry for your loss.

[ComradeMan]

Havet is the one that mentioned rep/veteran status and Bud Struggle is the latest to mention OI reform by making it a bit more chit-chaty. ;)

I am warning my comrades not to become revisionist as far as OI is concerned.

[Ele'ill]

I am warning my comrades not to become revisionist as far as OI is concerned.


That's fine too. I wouldn't want to try and help out too much or anything it might build a functioning community. What a threat THAT would be. :rolleyes:

[ComradeMan]

That's fine too. I wouldn't want to try and help out too much or anything it might build a functioning community. What a threat THAT would be. :rolleyes:

We have our functioning community- we're the underground, the beating pulse and heart of RevLeft! :tt2: You're not one of us anymore! :thumbdown:

:laugh::laugh::laugh:

[Ele'ill]

We have our functioning community- we're the underground, the beating pulse and heart of RevLeft! :tt2: You're not one of us anymore! :thumbdown:

:laugh::laugh::laugh:


I don't really consider you to be one of the OI'ers that helps make this forum better. I know it's easier to play tag-along with the others that do but it's a bit dishonest of you. ;)

[ComradeMan]

I don't really consider you to be one of the OI'ers that helps make this forum better. I know it's easier to play tag-along with the others that do but it's a bit dishonest of you. ;)

Hah- transactional analysis tactics now- we're getting good. But not good enough. Your version of a better forum might not be ours. Be gone with you! :laugh:

All I really want to say is you don't really care about us!!! :tt2:

[Havet]

Can you both stop quarreling for a second?

[ComradeMan]

Can you both stop quarreling for a second?

LOL! Who's quarrelling- it's just tongue-in-cheek! Hence the smile faces and tongue faces. :tt2:

[Ele'ill]

Hah- transactional analysis tactics now- we're getting good. But not good enough.

It was solely my opinion. :rolleyes:



Your version of a better forum might not be ours.

Which is why I listened to some OI user's complaints and did what I could. I asked Havet to come up with a detailed proposal. My arguments against the original proposal listed was pretty much an intact discussion from previous conversations regarding OI reform. I'm saving time.




Be gone with you!

I'm ok where I am.



All I really want to say is you don't really care about us!!!

I disagree with your usage of 'us' and my actions have sort of proven otherwise. ;)

[ComradeMan]

You're a spy- You're the Stasi. You're working on us slowly--- We know what you're trying to do. :laugh::laugh::laugh:

Which is why I listened to some OI user's complaints and did what I could. I asked Havet to come up with a detailed proposal. My arguments against the original proposal listed was pretty much an intact discussion from previous conversations regarding OI reform. I'm saving time.


That was democratic- why not post a thread about it? If you really do care about us that is.....:sneaky:


:lol::lol::tt2:

[Ele'ill]

You're a spy- You're the Stasi. You're working on us slowly--- We know what you're trying to do. :laugh::laugh::laugh:

See, this type of comment is more of the 'joking around' type of comment that I will be less likely to feel like responding too....wait


Which is why I listened to some OI user's complaints and did what I could. I asked Havet to come up with a detailed proposal. My arguments against the original proposal listed was pretty much an intact discussion from previous conversations regarding OI reform. I'm saving time.

Yeah, the OI'ers that have voiced their comments and concerns. I can't read minds. :)



That was democratic- why not post a thread about it? If you really do care about us that is.....

Post a thread about what? OI reform? There already was one posted although it was a bit short which is why I'm asking for a detailed proposal this time.

[ComradeMan]

See, this type of comment is more of the 'joking around' type of comment that I will be less likely to feel like responding too....wait

Do I hear happiness? :rolleyes:



Yeah, the OI'ers that have voiced their comments and concerns. I can't read minds. :)

Damn it- I thought you were the daughter of the wolf and sister of the whale- I kind of imagined you like were a shaman.



Post a thread about what? OI reform? There already was one posted although it was a bit short which is why I'm asking for a [B]detailed proposal this time.

Why don't you post a detailed thread then? A cool one with polls and graphs and things.... :laugh:


We love you Miss Hanigan!!!!!!!!!! ;)

[Havet]

Forget reform! Revolution is the only way! (OIers, expect a PM on hacking revleft soon!)




























jk

[Ele'ill]

Damn it- I thought you were the daughter of the wolf and sister of the whale- I kind of imagined you like were a shaman.

Yes, it's much different than reading the minds of usernames.





Why don't you post a detailed thread then? A cool one with polls and graphs and things....

I think the current OI group has a better understanding of what they want. I'm just offering to help.



We love you Miss Hanigan!!!!!!!!!! ;)

Great, so you have a weird teacher crush / inferiority complex too. :rolleyes:

[ComradeMan]

We're the real commies.


nGXOjm95WWo

[Revolution starts with U]

Thinking Bud is a "real" commie (when he's not a commie at all :lol:) alludes to why you're not on the main board... amirite? ;)