Materials for PSL National Conference on Mental Slavery

[Mack Encee]

Not sure where this should go, in terms of forums and topics, but I figure this is as good a place as any. These are posters, flyers, stickers meant to expose and lambaste some of the more disturbing behavior of the PSL or as I say, the Party for Sociopaths and Liars. Most of this is based on a criticism of cover ups in abusive behavior of the leaders but also the people who are apologists for racism, misogyny, class privilege and various undemocratic practices. The post as follows gives the general tone of things.

Don't miss out on the
National Conference on Mental Slavery.
Hosted by the PSL: Party for Sociopaths and Liars
Where you'll learn how to accept second class status for you and your friends!
Don't worry about dignity and respect, if you're Black or Brown, you won't need that once you join the fight for the working class.
(People concerned about democratic rights need not apply, all rights prohibited;))

Spread the word (please!).
Don't miss out on this opportunity to find out how to cover up for racism, class privilege, misogyny and undemocratic practices.
Revolution never looked so good, or appealing.
Join in the fight today!
Learn how to:
-Silence all dissent (and discussion).
-Ridicule and marginalize independent people of color and their groups
-Use arrogance and white chauvinism to your advantage
-Intimidate through threats and harassment
-How to cover everything up under the guise of the "revolution" and the "class struggle"

Show up to the USC campus on Nov 13-14 with a willingness to submit and cease all critical thinking and you'll be all set.
Spread the word with some posters and stickers.
The posters print great on 11x17 paper and the stickers are great for 4x3.33inch labels, enjoy.:)


Look up Facebook/PSL-Truth for more information.
facebook /event.php?eid=115780695151577

or LA IMC for more info
/news/2010/11/242693.php
/news/2010/11/242699.php

(or this site:
revleft /vb/blog.php?b=1263
revleft /vb/blog.php?b=1264)

[Chimurenga.]

So you made this account just to post this?

Pathetic.

[The Red Next Door]

fuck you.

[the last donut of the night]

you must have no life to spend so much time on these shitty posters and stickers then

[HEAD ICE]

hahahaha

[Lee Van Cleef]

It might help your case if you could explain some of your grievances against the PSL in a rational and tactful fashion, rather than registering an account just to post a poorly thought out troll attempt.

[Blackscare]

Someone who obviously had some beef with the PSL in the past and now makes vague, out-there statements with no elaboration.


I always get nervous when I see the word "truth" used a lot.

[Bright Banana Beard]

This is so ridiculous, I don't mind that the PSL sent you to the Gulags after the revolution. At least you will only be a hero for the Trotskyites.

[Niccolò Rossi]

I don't mind that the PSL sent you to the Gulags after the revolution.

Are you mental? How can you even joke about this?

Nic.

[Q]

This is so ridiculous, I don't mind that the PSL sent you to the Gulags after the revolution.
Idiot.


At least you will only be a hero for the Trotskyites.
Hardly.

As for the OP: You might want to substantiate your claims. How is the PSL "racist", "chauvinist", "psychopathic", etc, etc?

[Rusty Shackleford]

nothing supports these claims.


Also, why is your P.O. Box in Formosa?

[bricolage]

i admit it... i lol'd

[The Hong Se Sun]

I can agree and attest to the no democracy and Silence of all dissent (and discussion). I was a leader of a branch and left because the "democracy" they champion is fake and only good little parrots advance. Not to mention that there are no real choices on what the party believes. The "leaders" (founders and older members only) tell you what to believe and you follow or you leave.

[MarxSchmarx]

Don't bother clicking on those links or visiting the other sites the op posted. They are basically this post verbatim.

[mykittyhasaboner]

So wait, it costs 40-150 bucks to attend that conference? what the hell is that? i don't care how much it costs to organize all of this, that's pretty lame--especially if you already have to travel from somewhere else to get to cali. if you want people to show up, and cover some costs, make it 20~ at most. it just seems nonsensical.

also, an ipad raffle seems like a pretty pathetic attempt to raise money.

The PSL seems more like a business than a political party.

https://secure2.convio.net/peppsl/site/Ecommerce?VIEW_DEFAULT=true&store_id=1241

[shaderabbit85]

Undemocratic behavior in a party that defends and cheerleads for the super-capitalist "People's" Republic of China? No way, I can't believe it. :mellow:

[Rusty Shackleford]

So wait, it costs 40-150 bucks to attend that conference? what the hell is that? i don't care how much it costs to organize all of this, that's pretty lame--especially if you already have to travel from somewhere else to get to cali. if you want people to show up, and cover some costs, make it 20~ at most. it just seems nonsensical.

also, an ipad raffle seems like a pretty pathetic attempt to raise money.

The PSL seems more like a business than a political party.

https://secure2.convio.net/peppsl/site/Ecommerce?VIEW_DEFAULT=true&store_id=1241


if you cant afford it, you can come free... we dont turn anyone away from anything because of money.

[mykittyhasaboner]

Then what is the point of a registration "fee"?

[Rusty Shackleford]

if you can afford it, then we ask to help support the event. its strongly encouraged because we dont have thousands of dollars just laying around.

[Chimurenga.]

Then what is the point of a registration "fee"?

For the venue itself, food, and drinks for a few hundred party members plus supporters from other organizations over the weekend.


also, an ipad raffle seems like a pretty pathetic attempt to raise money.

Maybe you should email us with some better ideas. We are clearly in dire need of them.


that's pretty lame--especially if you already have to travel from somewhere else to get to cali. if you want people to show up

Clearly it's not that lame considering that a good number of people ARE flying in and ARE paying the registration fee.


The PSL seems more like a business than a political party.

Nope, sorry. I think you have us mistaken for someone else.

[Kassad]

So wait, it costs 40-150 bucks to attend that conference? what the hell is that? i don't care how much it costs to organize all of this, that's pretty lame--especially if you already have to travel from somewhere else to get to cali. if you want people to show up, and cover some costs, make it 20~ at most. it just seems nonsensical.

also, an ipad raffle seems like a pretty pathetic attempt to raise money.

The PSL seems more like a business than a political party.

https://secure2.convio.net/peppsl/site/Ecommerce?VIEW_DEFAULT=true&store_id=1241

$40 is for students and low income, as well as those traveling from long distances like me if they cannot afford the regular fee.

Do you not understand how these events work? It costs money to rent out the university hall for an entire weekend, to help giving housing to those who cannot afford it, to print up thousands of fliers, posters and leaflets and to pay for breakfast, lunch, dinner, childcare and other costs for the conference. We aren't run like a "business" and it's just stupid to suggest that we are. This conference is costing a lot of money to organize and we can't just throw in thousands of dollars of our already limited resources and not charge anything.

Also, no one is turned away for a lack of funds, so your argument is moot.

[Kassad]

Oh, and to the original poster, I'm offended that you didn't make a sticker of me. Please get on that.

[Honggweilo]

dont we ban ballant trolls like this, or the people making troll sockpuppets?

though the ipad thing is a pretty bad publicity stunt imho to gain some supporting funds. I mean AN IPAD?? A lottery as a means for fundraising, no problem. But waxing Steve Jobs ass and endorsing his child labour "rebel" fad marketing scheme, is just pretty lame.

[Nolan]

Successful troll is successful.

[Rusty Shackleford]

Successful troll is successful.
pretty much.


but its involving real people outside of revleft so who knows what will happen saturday.

[OriginalGumby]

This seems to be related in terms of criticisms
http://buffalo.indymedia.org/content/dealing-psl-and-answer-2

[Decolonize The Left]

Thread closed for obvious reasons.

- August