View Full Version : Who the hell are Tories?
EvilRedGuy
8th November 2010, 10:56
Who are they? I found Toryism on Wikipedia but i still don't get it.
Volcanicity
8th November 2010, 11:09
They are the UK Conservative Party.
Noinu
8th November 2010, 11:12
Can't say that I'd know a lot about them, so I'm sorry if there's wrong information here.
As far as I know, Tories are members of a conservative party in the UK. They're one of the prominent parties and their history goes back to the 17th century.
They opposed the Whigs and the French Revolution.
razboz
8th November 2010, 11:19
In the United Kingdom today, the Tories referes to the Conservative Party. They are currently the dominant half of the ruling coalition regime, the other half being the Liberal Democrats (Lib Dems). They are socially and economically conservative, though the actual party seems to be a little fragmented. They've been pushing through massive public spending cuts, reducing access to vital services such as universal healthcare and social housing, as well as slashing education spending by a third. Their leader is David Cameron, who is also the Prime Minister (head of Government, but not head of State which is still the Queen). The Tories are the party that spawned Maggie Thatcher, on of the most notorious British Class War Criminals.
People's War
8th November 2010, 11:34
Evil bastards. In the 1980s and 1990s, they passed anti-union legislation, pursued homophobic policies in education, destroyed British manufacturing, threw millions out of work and sold off our nationalized companies to their rich friends.
I hate them with the passion of a million burning suns.
Hit The North
8th November 2010, 21:41
In the first part of the nineteenth century the Tories were the party of landed gentry, the big landlords who made their living from rent, whilst the Whigs, who are now the Liberal Democrats, were the party of industrial and manufacturing capital. The Tories were protectionist and socially conservative, whereas the Whigs were in favour of free trade and were socially progressive. By the end of the nineteenth century, the now renamed Conservatives had become the party of big capital and were still socially reactionary. By the 1930s the Labour Party had replaced the Liberals as the socially progressive party and were nominally (but rarely ever in reality) pro-Working Class or, more specifically, pro-Organised Working Class.
After the second world war, The Conservatives became the "loyal opposition" of the welfare state, but roughly supported it. By 1980, they had transformed themselves yet again into a free-market, neo-liberal party of finance capital - which they remain to this day, along with the Labour Party, who have, themselves, adapted to the UK's post-industrial economy.
Manic Impressive
8th November 2010, 22:56
Did they start off as the Tory party? I didn't know that, I thought it was a nickname given to them as the word originates from an Irish word Toiarah (spelling is probably wrong) which roughly translates as thief or scoundrel.
edit: I looked it up it's tóraidhe
The term was thus originally a term of abuse, "an Irish rebel", before being adopted as a political label
brigadista
8th November 2010, 23:16
class enemies- the party of the bosses
The Count
9th November 2010, 00:02
Did they start off as the Tory party? I didn't know that, I thought it was a nickname given to them as the word originates from an Irish word Toiarah (spelling is probably wrong) which roughly translates as thief or scoundrel.
edit: I looked it up it's [I]tóraidhe
Oh, it did start out as a derogatory term; that's interesting. They seem to embrace it nowadays.
Die Neue Zeit
9th November 2010, 15:34
A little more history on the nickname would be appreciated.
Volcanicity
9th November 2010, 15:42
It was originally used to describe Irish Rebels opposing Oliver Cromwell after the English Civil War.
The Idler
9th November 2010, 18:10
They're the right wing of the ruling class which has run Britain for the last century.
learningaboutheleft123
9th November 2010, 18:59
all for the rich. 'thatcher thatcher milk snatcher !'
Honggweilo
9th November 2010, 19:32
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Comrade Wolfie's Very Nearly Banned Adventures
9th November 2010, 20:01
It was originally used to describe Irish Rebels opposing Oliver Cromwell after the English Civil War.
Yup, Cromwell was a Whig (liberal) and the whigs used this as an insult for the opposition.
Jazzratt
9th November 2010, 20:07
class enemies- the party of the bosses Oh because Labour and that other shower are what? The glorious representatives of our class who would never do anything in the interests if the bosses? Bollocks.
brigadista
9th November 2010, 21:26
Oh because Labour and that other shower are what? The glorious representatives of our class who would never do anything in the interests if the bosses? Bollocks.
did i say that? no i didn't -this was about the tories - im no new labour apologist- i loathe them
ed miliband
9th November 2010, 21:32
did i say that? no i didn't -this was about the tories - im no new labour apologist- i loathe them
Are you an "old" Labour apologist, though?
Jazzratt
9th November 2010, 22:14
did i say that? no i didn't -this was about the tories - im no new labour apologist- i loathe them But if you think that then your comment was essentially meaningless. If you understand that all the parties are essentially class enemy parties for the bosses then what's the point in describing them as such when discussing what sets them apart from everyone else?
the last donut of the night
9th November 2010, 22:20
they're assholes
brigadista
9th November 2010, 22:25
But if you think that then your comment was essentially meaningless. If you understand that all the parties are essentially class enemy parties for the bosses then what's the point in describing them as such when discussing what sets them apart from everyone else?
tories represent the interests of the CBI
http://www.cbi.org.uk/ndbs/staticpages.nsf/StaticPages/home.html/?OpenDocument
sunfarstar
9th November 2010, 22:26
:thumbup:非暴力不合作革命!干吧!
brigadista
9th November 2010, 22:29
Are you an "old" Labour apologist, though?
no
Property Is Robbery
9th November 2010, 22:33
What I learned in school was that the British loyalists living in the colonies during the American Revolution were called Tories.
Wanted Man
10th November 2010, 01:07
A true working-class party. http://t3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:Xef70sS8SnEp-M:http://forum.notobikeparkingtax.com/Smileys/classic/smiley-flag013.gif&t=1
Nikolay
10th November 2010, 02:07
Like most people have said, a Tory is a member of the Conservative Party of Britain and Canada. Actually, the Canadian Conservative Party can barely be called Conservative, or Tory, they`re more Liberal than anything.
God, I wish the NDP would take power some day. :(
learningaboutheleft123
10th November 2010, 17:01
haha look at their headquarters ! socialism is coming back !!!!
sunfarstar
11th November 2010, 23:29
诉诸直接行动,我们各自为战,组织起来,斗争!:thumbdown::tt2::lol::rolley es::laugh::cool::)
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