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HEAD ICE
3rd November 2010, 17:31
I was talking to my friend last night about how I would refuse to date somebody who was not from a working class background. She seemed incredibly offended by it, her boyfriend's mother being a millionaire lawyer who defends mobsters. I thought it was funny and amusing.

So I pose the question to y'all, would you? I'm not saying would you date a communist or not, but would you only have a working class partner? It is a no brainer to me.

Pirate Utopian
3rd November 2010, 17:40
Meh. Maybe.

Quail
3rd November 2010, 17:43
As long as someone had politics that didn't make me want to bash my head against a wall, I don't really see how their background is relevant. If a person's only "flaw" was that they weren't working class, would you really let that stop you from giving them a chance?

HEAD ICE
3rd November 2010, 17:58
As long as someone had politics that didn't make me want to bash my head against a wall, I don't really see how their background is relevant. If a person's only "flaw" was that they weren't working class, would you really let that stop you from giving them a chance?

Yes, mainly due to the fact that all that I've known I have absolutely nothing in common with and can not relate in anyway to how I view the world (not as a communist, but how I grew up in a working class home and how that shaped my upbringing).

I wouldn't have a problem with someone who becomes a class traitor, ends up working and living with working class people, and argues for a communist position though.

Blackscare
3rd November 2010, 18:13
You're fucking dumb.

Q
3rd November 2010, 18:17
Yes, that girl from that higher grade is totally... oh, right.

Blackscare
3rd November 2010, 18:19
*Because you would choose a mate not only on the basis of their relation to the means of production, but their parents.

IDK, maybe you're at the age when one's class essentially equals that of their parents, but once you start really living independently you'll see that there are people of any given background anywhere. What matters is what one's class is at present.


Not like I'd actually say to a girl/guy "OMG UR MIDDLE CLASS GET OFF ME SCUM", and lets face it I'm not going to be getting a chance to shemp around with rich debutantes anyways so there's no reason to make some staunch personal stand about refusing to have any relations with hypothetical rich people who would be romantically interested in me, unless I wanted to look like a total douche.

Bright Banana Beard
3rd November 2010, 18:22
If she into drugs and progressive, then yes.

Os Cangaceiros
3rd November 2010, 18:26
yeah I'd totally never marry a really rich girl or anything. no way jose, i'm way too prole for that

[/sarcasm]

Blackscare
3rd November 2010, 18:29
yeah I'd totally never marry a really rich girl or anything. no way jose, i'm way too prole for that

[/sarcasm]

lol qft

Bandito
3rd November 2010, 18:40
Reality is different than a Hollywood movie or a Grimm fairy tale, where a princess marries a beggar.
In reality, the working class and the upper class don't interact in significant portion to begin with. Different social background means different childhood, different interests, different friends, different social life. In those circumstances, it is very hard to fall in love with someone outside working class in general. Even in those rare cases where two people from different class backgrounds fall in love, lot of compromises must be done to preserve that kind of relationship.
In all fairness, it is just human to be attracted to every person you fucking want to be attracted, but this is capitalism, and it simply doesn't work that way.

NecroCommie
3rd November 2010, 18:49
If I am excused to use the bourgeoisie class distinction: What exactly is my class? My parents are middle-class, but I am most certainly amongst the most poorest demographs. So... yeah.

As to the question itself: Yes I would. I can usually come up with positive qualities from both class-backgrounds (dating-wise), but I would not date outside the political left-wing.

Sentinel
3rd November 2010, 18:55
After all, 95% of all prominent communists of the last century came from the bourgeoisie class, so why not.. Opinions are what ultimately matter when it comes to this.

Disclaimer: I don't doubt the fact that it's the working class that will act in it's class interest and bring the socialist revolution about.. Who else would.

piet11111
3rd November 2010, 19:48
If she does not have politics that make me feel like smashing her head through the wall i do not see why i would object.

ÑóẊîöʼn
3rd November 2010, 19:50
I find it interesting that people seem to assume that "dating outside one's class" automatically means "dating someone middle class/bourgeois".

No love for the lumpen?

DaComm
3rd November 2010, 19:52
I was talking to my friend last night about how I would refuse to date somebody who was not from a working class background. She seemed incredibly offended by it, her boyfriend's mother being a millionaire lawyer who defends mobsters. I thought it was funny and amusing.

So I pose the question to y'all, would you? I'm not saying would you date a communist or not, but would you only have a working class partner? It is a no brainer to me.

Lawyers are still workers. When you consider the only other options being bourgeoise or lumpen-proletariat, I agree. No brainer.

NecroCommie
3rd November 2010, 19:54
Oh yes. The lumpen. Why not? I really cannot see why not.

But to speak the truth, I am somewhat suspicous of this entire dating scene.

gorillafuck
3rd November 2010, 20:24
In reality, the working class and the upper class don't interact in significant portion to begin with. Different social background means different childhood, different interests, different friends, different social life.
You must have a very rigid definition of what working class and the bourgeoisie are like, because neither are a homogenous mass of people with the same interests, personalities. This is like when people think that hipster is a rich person phenomena, which it just flat out isn't.

Bandito
3rd November 2010, 21:23
You must have a very rigid definition of what working class and the bourgeoisie are like, because neither are a homogenous mass of people with the same interests, personalities. This is like when people think that hipster is a rich person phenomena, which it just flat out isn't.
No, I was not implying that.
Connecting personality with class background is plain absurd. What I was saying is that, for example, bourgeoisie have access to goods that are way different than ones that someone who is working class has. Person, and what I am discussing here is an apolitical persona that hold no leftist views, who socializes itself in that surroundings have different views of what is "normal" and what is "not".
Do you think every person has a potential of falling in love with its "soul mate", no regards to their class whatsoever? I don't think so, and there are a whole bunch of obstacles on its way.
What I am saying is, of course there is a way for someone to date, love, have children and live a happy life with someone who is not their class. But it is very hard.

Widerstand
3rd November 2010, 21:30
Sure is prole in here eh?

Jazzratt
3rd November 2010, 21:51
You find me a loaded business executive who would want a relationship with a bloke on the dole and I'll be more than happy to give it a shot.

scarletghoul
3rd November 2010, 21:56
I wanna get with a rich person so i can move to london or something and more importantly not have to bother about work etc thus having more time to spend on revolutionary activity.

Tavarisch_Mike
3rd November 2010, 22:13
Yes.

HEAD ICE
3rd November 2010, 22:24
I am disappointing that this thread has gotten so many responses. Such a hollow topic gets so many posts while clearly my best thread and a real work of art remains ignored.

http://www.revleft.com/vb/welcome-my-world-t143704/index.html?t=143704

death to y'all

Lyev
3rd November 2010, 22:30
I have a bourgeois fetish ;)
edit; wait, I just realised -
she came from greece / she had thirst for knowledge / studied sculpture at st. martin's college
yes I would date outside my class.

Dr Mindbender
3rd November 2010, 22:32
You find me a loaded business executive who would want a relationship with a bloke on the dole and I'll be more than happy to give it a shot.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DqgXzPfAxjo

gorillafuck
4th November 2010, 00:06
Do you think every person has a potential of falling in love with its "soul mate", no regards to their class whatsoever? I don't think so, and there are a whole bunch of obstacles on its way.
What I am saying is, of course there is a way for someone to date, love, have children and live a happy life with someone who is not their class. But it is very hard.
My parents are not from the same class.

I don't know what the case is in Serbia but I really don't think that class in the United States is a barrier to relationships, especially since now it is not uncommon for working class people in the US to attend college now.

Il Medico
4th November 2010, 00:47
I wanna get with a rich person so i can move to london or something and more importantly not have to bother about work etc thus having more time to spend on revolutionary activity.
SG: Honey, how was your day?
SGH: Oh nothing much, went to a few business meetings and continued to leech off the workers.
SG:I went to a communist demo and advocated your overthrow.
SGH: Oh, that's nice dear, hope you had fun.

Quail
4th November 2010, 00:57
I have a bourgeois fetish ;)
edit; wait, I just realised -
she came from greece / she had thirst for knowledge / studied sculpture at st. martin's college
yes I would date outside my class.
The first thing that came to mind:
ainyK6fXku0

At first this cover made me laugh, but it's kind of grown on me. It's one of the most embarrassing songs on my computer.

scarletghoul
4th November 2010, 02:14
SG: Honey, how was your day?
SGH: Oh nothing much, went to a few business meetings and continued to leech off the workers.
SG:I went to a communist demo and advocated your overthrow.
SGH: Oh, that's nice dear, hope you had fun.
the really awkward moment will come when i overthrow her and have to direct the execution of her colleagues and so on. This will put a strain on our relationship

Jazzratt
4th November 2010, 02:20
The first thing that came to mind:
ainyK6fXku0

At first this cover made me laugh, but it's kind of grown on me. It's one of the most embarrassing songs on my computer.
:lol::lol::lol:

My friend used to have that album. So funny.

Quail
4th November 2010, 02:23
I don't even remember how I came across it. I think it was on the related videos when I watched him "singing" Rocket Man.

Magón
4th November 2010, 03:27
I dated a chick from Chicago, who went to a high priced art school aka SAIC. (School of the Art Institute of Chicago.) Her father was a business man of some kind, and her mother was a high class school teacher.

A Proletarian Manifesto
4th November 2010, 04:23
Fuck yes I would, i've on a couple different occasions dated chicks who live on the parkway (Rich side of town) and most of em are wicked slutty. Like this chick that'll ill just call uhm "typical freshmen chick" fucked me the first time I hung out with her, well not really penetration, but we were both naked. I would especially date them if they were older and were living on their own, I despise work so if she would put up with me playing xbox till the early hours of the day, eating the fridge bare, and my incessant need of space and attention at different times, then I would most certainly oblige the lucky lady.

Blackscare
4th November 2010, 04:38
Fuck yes I would, i've on a couple different occasions dated chicks who live on the parkway (Rich side of town) and most of em are wicked slutty. Like this chick that'll ill just call uhm "typical freshmen chick" fucked me the first time I hung out with her, well not really penetration, but we were both naked. I would especially date them if they were older and were living on their own, I despise work so if she would put up with me playing xbox till the early hours of the day, eating the fridge bare, and my incessant need space and attention, then I would most certainly oblige the lucky lady.



I don't like you and look forward to your restriction.

A Proletarian Manifesto
4th November 2010, 04:48
I don't like you and look forward to your restriction.

You are but one of many.

Os Cangaceiros
4th November 2010, 05:27
I despise work so if she would put up with me playing xbox till the early hours of the day, eating the fridge bare, and my incessant need of space and attention at different times, then I would most certainly oblige the lucky lady.

What woman wouldn't want to date you? You sound like a real keeper!

Thirsty Crow
4th November 2010, 06:36
As to the question itself: Yes I would. I can usually come up with positive qualities from both class-backgrounds (dating-wise), but I would not date outside the political left-wing.

This plus the person really does not absolutely have to hold firm left-wing opinions, but she (I'm heterosexual) has to be a decent human being.
For example, when it comes to the world view of my current partner, she can be best described as: non-politically active social democrat-(ideally) communist-("ideally", but) misanthropic a bit (abhors human nastiness)-(which, to a degree, makes her) quasi-Malthusian. Nice, innit? :)

A Proletarian Manifesto
4th November 2010, 07:45
What woman wouldn't want to date you? You sound like a real keeper!

Some girls find me physically attractive.
And some find me witty and charming.
Others find me spontaneous and fun.
I've got a couple things going for me.

A Proletarian Manifesto
4th November 2010, 07:46
What woman wouldn't want to date you? You sound like a real keeper!
Lol whoops, I thought you said "kreeper" at first. I wouldn't have replied had I recognized the joke at first.

Animal Farm Pig
4th November 2010, 07:47
A couple months after I separated from my ex-wife, I figured I should start dating again and I put an ad on craigslist. It was witty, interesting, and full of despair. Of course, it drew responses :D . I started corresponding by email with a recently divorced woman. We exchanged some emails and photos. We found each other attractive, and we seemed to connect. Then, I found out that she was an attorney. I stopped corresponding with her. She sent me a couple more emails, but I didn't respond. I was living on $1,400 a month with $750 in rent, $350 in car payment, and $100 in bills. I imagined dating in the future-- me taking her to the cheap taqueria with $1 tacos, and her wanting to go to restaurants that would use my disposable income for the month in one meal. I would talk about the charging problem with the forklift at work, and she would talk about some lawyer shit. I could barely afford to pay for the bridges and parking to visit San Francisco, and she would want to take an airplane to visit somewhere far way where we would need to stay in a hotel. I just didn't think it would work, so I broke it off.



Shatner's version of 'Common People' fucking rocks.

A Proletarian Manifesto
4th November 2010, 07:49
A couple months after I separated from my ex-wife, I figured I should start dating again and I put an ad on craigslist. It was witty, interesting, and full of despair. Of course, it drew responses :D . I started corresponding by email with a recently divorced woman. We exchanged some emails and photos. We found each other attractive, and we seemed to connect. Then, I found out that she was an attorney. I stopped corresponding with her. She sent me a couple more emails, but I didn't respond. I was living on $1,400 a month with $750 in rent, $350 in car payment, and $100 in bills. I imagined dating in the future-- me taking her to the cheap taqueria with $1 tacos, and her wanting to go to restaurants that would use my disposable income for the month in one meal. I would talk about the charging problem with the forklift at work, and she would talk about some lawyer shit. I could barely afford to pay for the bridges and parking to visit San Francisco, and she would want to take an airplane to visit somewhere far way where we would need to stay in a hotel. I just didn't think it would work, so I broke it off.



Shatner's version of 'Common People' fucking rocks.


My favorite part of this piece?
"...and she would talk about some lawyer shit."

EvilRedGuy
4th November 2010, 12:23
Respect for the lumpen'
I would date homeless people just to house them. ;)
And i would house them all in my other date's house who happens to be bourgeois.

Patchd
4th November 2010, 14:43
I was talking to my friend last night about how I would refuse to date somebody who was not from a working class background. She seemed incredibly offended by it, her boyfriend's mother being a millionaire lawyer who defends mobsters. I thought it was funny and amusing.

So I pose the question to y'all, would you? I'm not saying would you date a communist or not, but would you only have a working class partner? It is a no brainer to me.
A lawyer isn't a member of the capitalist class. But back to the point, do you actually get to meet that many bourgeoisie? In many workplaces, the workers never see the owners, and instead deal with management, who are also working class (if we're going by the Marxian definition). Socially, we don't, or we rarely mix, so I doubt it's even possible for many working class people to meet and mingle with the bourgeoisie, let alone form an emotional relationship with one of them.

Le Libérer
4th November 2010, 15:00
In my community, the desired mate is tall handsome African Amercian minister. Now while I would never date anyone that wasnt working class, and I have dated rich men in the past, thus the working class men only rule. A full gospel minister is something I would never ever date, being anti-theist.

So there are many factors one needs to consider when pondering the right mate.

4 Leaf Clover
4th November 2010, 15:44
wtf , of course i would.

ZeroNowhere
4th November 2010, 16:00
I find it interesting that people seem to assume that "dating outside one's class" automatically means "dating someone middle class/bourgeois".

No love for the lumpen?
Technically speaking, the lumpen aren't necessarily non-proletarian:


The Swiss proletariat is still largely what one describes as lumpenproletariat, prepared to sell themselves to anyone who will make extravagant promises.

ÑóẊîöʼn
4th November 2010, 18:08
Technically speaking, the lumpen aren't necessarily non-proletarian:

I'm having a hard time understanding what the bit you quoted actually means, or how it is relevant. Plenty of proletarians labour under the extravagant promise that one day they will strike it big; I think the whole fascination with celebrity culture is a reflection of this.

A.J.
4th November 2010, 18:37
Technically speaking, the lumpen aren't necessarily non-proletarian:

They're the "refuse of all classes".

Or as I like to define them an 'anti-class' as they, for the most part, exist outwith the system of wage-labour.

Ele'ill
4th November 2010, 18:43
It depends on their socio-political stance.

I don't think I could date or become intimate with someone who is also working class but holds opposing views. I'd feel that I was trying to educate or 'turn' them all the time. No thanks.



Class isn't the issue- what they do from their position within society is.

Bad Grrrl Agro
4th November 2010, 19:56
*Because you would choose a mate not only on the basis of their relation to the means of production, but their parents.
Might I add onto this that there have been ruling class parents who've disowned their kids.



IDK, maybe you're at the age when one's class essentially equals that of their parents, but once you start really living independently you'll see that there are people of any given background anywhere. What matters is what one's class is at present.


Not like I'd actually say to a girl/guy "OMG UR MIDDLE CLASS GET OFF ME SCUM", and lets face it I'm not going to be getting a chance to shemp around with rich debutantes anyways so there's no reason to make some staunch personal stand about refusing to have any relations with hypothetical rich people who would be romantically interested in me, unless I wanted to look like a total douche.
Where is the Goddamn Thank Button?!?!

A Proletarian Manifesto
4th November 2010, 20:41
A lawyer isn't a member of the capitalist class. But back to the point, do you actually get to meet that many bourgeoisie? In many workplaces, the workers never see the owners, and instead deal with management, who are also working class (if we're going by the Marxian definition). Socially, we don't, or we rarely mix, so I doubt it's even possible for many working class people to meet and mingle with the bourgeoisie, let alone form an emotional relationship with one of them.

I don't think people in the forum were speaking in Marxist terms.
More modern to postmodern of class by income level.
I wouldn't put someone who works at Micky D's making 16k a year in the same class with a civil engineer who makes 100k+ a year. Although both being of working class essentially in American politics they are 2 separate classes who wouldn't live in the same neighborhoods and only likely interactions are "Would you like fries with that."

I also don't like people who talk in ancient terms and think that Marx's struggle is the same struggle we are going through today. I don't think any amount of book reciting can prepare somebody to fight back in today's terms. They're two completely different beasts. It's the rich verses the poor and not shop owners verses shop workers. As far as I know there was no such thing as a CEO or VP and million wasn't even a feasible number in Marx's time period, let alone the multi-billion earnings of today. So what we considered evil back then and what we consider evil now are two different things.

A Proletarian Manifesto
4th November 2010, 20:43
It depends on their socio-political stance.

I don't think I could date or become intimate with someone who is also working class but holds opposing views. I'd feel that I was trying to educate or 'turn' them all the time. No thanks.



Class isn't the issue- what they do from their position within society is.

This happens alot with me.

the last donut of the night
4th November 2010, 21:03
this thread is so stupid

yes of course i would

Sam_b
4th November 2010, 21:56
I would refuse to date somebody who was not from a working class background

You're a fool.

4 Leaf Clover
4th November 2010, 22:32
hey peeps , dating is dating . its not like you are romeo and juliet, and your love cannot succeed

Wanted Man
4th November 2010, 22:35
A couple months after I separated from my ex-wife, I figured I should start dating again and I put an ad on craigslist. It was witty, interesting, and full of despair. Of course, it drew responses :D . I started corresponding by email with a recently divorced woman. We exchanged some emails and photos. We found each other attractive, and we seemed to connect. Then, I found out that she was an attorney. I stopped corresponding with her. She sent me a couple more emails, but I didn't respond. I was living on $1,400 a month with $750 in rent, $350 in car payment, and $100 in bills. I imagined dating in the future-- me taking her to the cheap taqueria with $1 tacos, and her wanting to go to restaurants that would use my disposable income for the month in one meal. I would talk about the charging problem with the forklift at work, and she would talk about some lawyer shit. I could barely afford to pay for the bridges and parking to visit San Francisco, and she would want to take an airplane to visit somewhere far way where we would need to stay in a hotel. I just didn't think it would work, so I broke it off.

You should have just gotten her to pay for you.

Vanguard1917
4th November 2010, 22:38
I quite like the Bavarian peasantry:

http://images.halloweencostume.com/plus-german-beer-girl.jpg

A Proletarian Manifesto
4th November 2010, 22:45
I quite like the Bavarian peasantry:

http://images.halloweencostume.com/plus-german-beer-girl.jpg
I like where you're going with this.

Il Medico
4th November 2010, 22:48
the really awkward moment will come when i overthrow her and have to direct the execution of her colleagues and so on. This will put a strain on our relationship
Yes, but like all good couples, you'll pull through.

Vanguard1917
4th November 2010, 23:10
I like where you're going with this.

Shit, i meant to upload this one:

http://www.elite-view.com/art/Museum_Art/Academic_Art/NCP22068426101~A-Bavarian-Peasant-Girl-Posters.jpg

Oh well.

Patchd
5th November 2010, 05:33
I also don't like people who talk in ancient terms and think that Marx's struggle is the same struggle we are going through today. I don't think any amount of book reciting can prepare somebody to fight back in today's terms. They're two completely different beasts. It's the rich verses the poor and not shop owners verses shop workers. As far as I know there was no such thing as a CEO or VP and million wasn't even a feasible number in Marx's time period, let alone the multi-billion earnings of today. So what we considered evil back then and what we consider evil now are two different things.
Talking in ancient terms? You mean using words which have been incorporated into the English language? I think you're stepping over a fine line though, the fundamental tenet of capitalism still hasn't changed; class society and wage labour. Simply because some workers have been elevated to a much higher extent than others, and thus, we can safely say their loyalties are not with us (assuming they originally saw working class interests as their own).

In Marx's time, many modern states as we know it did not have a unified, centralised and state operated police force too. But their fundamental nature hasn't changed, we shouldn't be lazy with our definitions just because it allows us to automatically label certain workers as being 'on-our-side' whilst the others are class enemies.

Tablo
5th November 2010, 05:38
I date outside my class frequently. Not sure what my class is though... probably petite-bourgeois since my father recently has been more involved in business ownership, though it technically hasn't started.. Prior to now I guess I was a privileged worker since my dad made a nice paycheck as a salesman. I have not done anything outside part-time work myself though. I'm just a spoiled rich college kid.

btw it is nice to be back on revleft. xP

A Proletarian Manifesto
5th November 2010, 06:04
Talking in ancient terms? You mean using words which have been incorporated into the English language? I think you're stepping over a fine line though, the fundamental tenet of capitalism still hasn't changed; class society and wage labour. Simply because some workers have been elevated to a much higher extent than others, and thus, we can safely say their loyalties are not with us (assuming they originally saw working class interests as their own).

In Marx's time, many modern states as we know it did not have a unified, centralised and state operated police force too. But their fundamental nature hasn't changed, we shouldn't be lazy with our definitions just because it allows us to automatically label certain workers as being 'on-our-side' whilst the others are class enemies.

I don't believe in throwing around the terms "bourgeoisie and proletarian" because they are too loosely defined now a days.
Marx would almost certainly see private practice doctors(maybe even typical doctors), lawyers, and business men as an evil. I dont think he would mind some guy who sells oranges in a kiosk on the corner who technically runs his own business. By your definition, tattoo artists are bourgeoisie because they own their own business. By speaking like a corpse and justifying by our self help book (marx/engels writing) we are acting like were in the seventeenth century.

I dont believe in bourgeoisie vs proletarian, I believe in rich vs. poor. The rich and the well to do are the enemy of today, not anybody who owns a shop or corner store. This is a radically new world and we cant keep spewing lines from the 19th century and expect people join us. Marx wasn't worried about what happened in the 17th century, he was worried about the current state of things. We live in the twentieth century and I feel like we need more than a few "The Coming Insurrection"'s to come out with plain speaking in modern terms that everybody can relate to. Not just a small group of leftists.

I believe that's why the tea-party is so big, because the availability and understandability is second to none, while we use these old terms that nobody outside of political circles can generally relate to.

Lets hear an arguement form the tea party "Taxes are too high!"
Now one from the radical left "The bourgeoisie have had their heels dug into the proletarians for far too long! We need solidarity in the working class for an insurrection."

Amphictyonis
5th November 2010, 07:10
There are people within my class who are convinced they are bourgeoisie or are trying their hardest to become capitalists. This is part of the problem, part of the reality capitalism has created (a warped sense of our positions in society). Some people are foolish enough to proclaim 'the end of class'.

I'd prefer not to date idiots in general. There can be very reactionary working class and, as Marx shows us, decent members of the bourgeois class.

A Proletarian Manifesto
5th November 2010, 07:24
There are people within my class who are convinced they are bourgeoisie or are trying their hardest to become capitalists. This is part of the problem, part of the reality capitalism has created (a warped sense of our positions in society).

I don't understand why people do that. I have noticed alot of my peers lie and say they are rich and buy clothes from Hollister and American Eagle and think it gives them some sort of entitlement.

I feel im like one of the very few who are proud to be poor and I tell people often that I am.

It's not my fault it would be my parents fault if any, so why should I feel shame?

Amphictyonis
5th November 2010, 08:00
I don't understand why people do that. I have noticed alot of my peers lie and say they are rich and buy clothes from Hollister and American Eagle and think it gives them some sort of entitlement.

I feel im like one of the very few who are proud to be poor and I tell people often that I am.

It's not my fault it would be my parents fault if any, so why should I feel shame?

It's part of what keeps capitalism going- the Paris Hilton lifestyle, you too can have it and live it for only $59.99. Workers? Capitalists? It doesnt matter! Put on your designer glasses at night and rock the Versace hand bag.

D5_TJy_4hDc

The sad thing is, western culture, by in large, is emulating this sick mind frame ^

A.J.
6th November 2010, 17:36
Policewomen? I'm caught in two minds Love the uniform & handcuffs....however, the function of the cops in a capitalist state being a reactionary one I just don't think I could do it......

NoOneIsIllegal
7th November 2010, 01:21
The working class men and the employing class women have nothing in common.

But I'll still tap dat ass.

A Proletarian Manifesto
7th November 2010, 05:18
I would also like to add, that I think women in "classy" attire are extremely hot to me. Even people who work at like sprint, if they're wearing like a "professional" clothing like some tight gray or pinstripe slacks, a nice tight white button down blouse, a pair of black heels, and if they have a ponytail, a nice pair of black frame glasses. Omg I cant even help staring. It's like, my number one fetish. That and like "chubby" chicks, like not very overweight, just a little more than average.

Il Medico
11th November 2010, 00:29
I would also like to add, that I think women in "classy" attire are extremely hot to me. Even people who work at like sprint, if they're wearing like a "professional" clothing like some tight gray or pinstripe slacks, a nice tight white button down blouse, a pair of black heels, and if they have a ponytail, a nice pair of black frame glasses. Omg I cant even help staring. It's like, my number one fetish. That and like "chubby" chicks, like not very overweight, just a little more than average.
Oh, hey guys, Sankara is back!

Os Cangaceiros
11th November 2010, 00:45
Threads on revleft regarding any topic related to the opposite sex or dating are always so fucking cringe-worthy.

Raúl Duke
11th November 2010, 15:55
Yes I would date out of my class, what the hell does it matter?
In fact that may be a plus for me.
I might even probably prefer to date apolitical people than another leftist.

However, most people I've been interested in usually have the same or lower family class background as I do except in one case.

Political_Chucky
12th November 2010, 00:48
It's part of what keeps capitalism going- the Paris Hilton lifestyle, you too can have it and live it for only $59.99. Workers? Capitalists? It doesnt matter! Put on your designer glasses at night and rock the Versace hand bag.

D5_TJy_4hDc

The sad thing is, western culture, by in large, is emulating this sick mind frame ^
Don't ever post another reality show video! I ended up getting sucked into the episode lol. Damn stupid shows.

Il Medico
12th November 2010, 02:00
Threads on revleft regarding any topic related to the opposite sex or dating are always so fucking cringe-worthy.
That's because half of revleft is comprised of 14-15 year old boys, with most of the rest wishing they were fifteenth so they'd have a proper excuse.

Os Cangaceiros
12th November 2010, 02:12
I wish that I was still 15. Life was pretty damn good then.

9
12th November 2010, 02:15
I actually only date lumpen.

gorillafuck
12th November 2010, 04:33
That's because half of revleft is comprised of 14-15 year old boys,
I actually don't think that's true. Wasn't the average age like 18?

Quail
12th November 2010, 04:35
I actually don't think that's true. Wasn't the average age like 18?
Maybe they're immature 18 year olds.

Revleft (actually like most of the left, unfortunately) seems to be mostly men though.

gorillafuck
12th November 2010, 04:38
Maybe they're immature 18 year olds.

Revleft (actually like most of the left, unfortunately) seems to be mostly men though.
Most of the internet is men, and most of politics is men, so that is not surprising.

Quail
12th November 2010, 04:43
I'm not sure why politics is so male-heavy, but we should look to change that.

gorillafuck
12th November 2010, 04:48
I'm not sure why politics is so male-heavy, but we should look to change that.
Because sexist societies don't think women can facilitate things.

Jazzratt
12th November 2010, 04:56
Revleft (actually like most of the left, unfortunately) seems to be mostly men though. We need men to swing the hammers in the logos.

Os Cangaceiros
12th November 2010, 06:30
Actually, judging from my own experiences in life outside the interwebz, there's a more-or-less even mixture of men and women involved in left politics.

Widerstand
12th November 2010, 08:56
Actually, judging from my own experiences in life outside the interwebz, there's a more-or-less even mixture of men and women involved in left politics.

Yeah...On some issues there are slightly more women, for example migration , and some there are slightly more men, usually repression and bloc related stuff, but overall I'd say it's a good mix.

Quail
12th November 2010, 11:49
I tend to find that there are more men, but that could just be in Sheffield. There are more women in the feminist movement, but there seem to be more men overall.

gorillafuck
12th November 2010, 16:14
Actually, judging from my own experiences in life outside the interwebz, there's a more-or-less even mixture of men and women involved in left politics.
I've actually found that too where I am, but I've heard otherwise about other places. I dunno, maybe it's a myth.

Bad Grrrl Agro
12th November 2010, 22:36
I'd say that the numbers are almost even, but there is a definite male domination when it comes to who gets a voice.

Wanted Man
14th November 2010, 10:35
I'm not sure why politics is so male-heavy, but we should look to change that.

In left-wing politics, it seems to slowly balance out. Organisations that start out tiny are almost entirely male, but when the amount of members rises, one slowly sees more women joining, thankfully.

Of course, some groups are forever destined to be sectarian sausage fests.

Dimentio
14th November 2010, 10:53
I was talking to my friend last night about how I would refuse to date somebody who was not from a working class background. She seemed incredibly offended by it, her boyfriend's mother being a millionaire lawyer who defends mobsters. I thought it was funny and amusing.

So I pose the question to y'all, would you? I'm not saying would you date a communist or not, but would you only have a working class partner? It is a no brainer to me.


I don't have class :D

Bad Grrrl Agro
14th November 2010, 11:20
I don't have class :D
I'm classy as fuck! :D

hobo8675309
20th November 2010, 05:17
I do not identify with any social class. Social classes are evil.

9
20th November 2010, 08:26
it just occurred to me that my earlier sarcastic comment:

I actually only date lumpen.
mighthave come across as some sort of snobbish jab at lumpen or something - so just to be clear, that wasn't my intention at all. i was just trying to show how absurd it sounds to attempt to apply marxist class analysis to your love life (or lack there of, for anyone who seriously suggests that they do).

anyway, carry on..

Bad Grrrl Agro
20th November 2010, 14:47
I guess the speculation of who I may or may not date is now irrelevant. I am now happily engaged.:wub:

An archist
20th November 2010, 16:25
I guess the speculation of who I may or may not date is now irrelevant. I am now happily engaged.:wub:
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Rotfront
20th November 2010, 16:36
Class background alone is not important, but I think I wouldn't date an active right wing girl.

Il Medico
20th November 2010, 16:48
I guess the speculation of who I may or may not date is now irrelevant. I am now happily engaged.:wub:
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#FF0000
20th November 2010, 17:07
my girlfriend is hella rich because her dad is an engineer and her sister is a doctor and her brother is a fucking physicist.

Bright Banana Beard
20th November 2010, 17:09
my girlfriend is hella rich because her dad is an engineer and her sister is a doctor and her brother is a fucking physicist.
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