View Full Version : poppies (its time for that discussion again)
El Rojo
1st November 2010, 22:33
well, its rolled around to that time of year again, in the UK folks are starting to wear poppies. i might as well start this thread and get it over with
i found mine lying on the floor, so i consider it partially acceptable because i didn't pay for it. thoughts?
Blackscare
1st November 2010, 22:39
What?
bricolage
1st November 2010, 22:44
Its not the money given that is the problem rather the discourse that is fostered.
Comrade Wolfie's Very Nearly Banned Adventures
1st November 2010, 23:10
The celebration of the deaths of thousands of British men for little more than imperialism as a 'glorius noble sacrifice' is rather disgusting, but war is wrapped up with bullshit to make the organized massacre of fellow humans palatable.
Wanted Man
1st November 2010, 23:18
Is everyone expected to wear them? I mean, I always see people on TV wear them (and even footballers with poppies sewn into the shirts :rolleyes:), but can a regular joe get shit for not wearing one?
Jazzratt
1st November 2010, 23:23
Is everyone expected to wear them? I mean, I always see people on TV wear them (and even footballers with poppies sewn into the shirts :rolleyes:), but can a regular joe get shit for not wearing one? I've never worn one in my life and no one's said anything. It is primarily people in a public position who are expected to wear them (not too early (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1323540/BBC-presenters-criticised-charities-wearing-poppies-early.html)*, mind).
* This is a link to the daily mail, so follow at your own risk. It's a fantastic example, though, of the fantastic lengths they'll go to in order to grind their axe against the BBC.
Comrade Wolfie's Very Nearly Banned Adventures
1st November 2010, 23:35
lol most of that article is made up.
Wanted Man
1st November 2010, 23:43
I've never worn one in my life and no one's said anything. It is primarily people in a public position who are expected to wear them (not too early (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1323540/BBC-presenters-criticised-charities-wearing-poppies-early.html)*, mind).
* This is a link to the daily mail, so follow at your own risk. It's a fantastic example, though, of the fantastic lengths they'll go to in order to grind their axe against the BBC.
It explains a lot, though. I was watching MotD a while ago, and I was thinking, "Has it been a year already?"
Jazzratt
2nd November 2010, 00:46
lol most of that paper is made up. Fixed.
Leonid Brozhnev
2nd November 2010, 03:34
Never worn one either, not in my teen/adult life anyway. Its nationalism thinly coated with bullshit to make us feel like these men died to protect us in some way. The Legion isn't committed to ending war, just propping up the lives of those who volunteered to die in the name of the state.
Wear a white 'Anti-War' poppy... not that it'll end war, but it may piss some people off.
9
2nd November 2010, 03:54
Oh god, this again. This subject is always interesting because it forces all the British chauvinists out of the woodwork.
gorillafuck
2nd November 2010, 03:55
Is poppies a British term for flag lapel pins or ribbons? I've never heard that word before.
9
2nd November 2010, 03:58
^http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Royal_British_Legion#Poppy_Appeal
Quail
2nd November 2010, 03:58
People wear poppies for the dead from WW1 (I think). I don't wear a poppy generally though.
gorillafuck
2nd November 2010, 03:59
^http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Royal_British_Legion#Poppy_AppealOh. Yeah, don't wear those. That's just to rally up nationalism.
Oh god, this again. This subject is always interesting because it forces all the British chauvinists out of the woodwork.
A better way to do that is to bring up the falklands war.
Q
2nd November 2010, 07:23
I was already wondering why Cameron is walking around with a Labour rose...
Comrade Gwydion
2nd November 2010, 08:41
You english folks do have a fancy for flowers, don't you?
Labour Rose, War of the Roses, this poppies thing....
And here in the netherlands, famous for it's 'bloembollen', we just have had one king who liked to be painted next to a certain flower, because the flower was fucking orange. And nobody even knows that, unless they played Trivial Pursuit....
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/7/77/Trivialpursuit_Token.jpg
Q
2nd November 2010, 08:51
You english folks do have a fancy for flowers, don't you?
Labour Rose, War of the Roses, this poppies thing....
And here in the netherlands, famous for it's 'bloembollen', we just have had one king who liked to be painted next to a certain flower, because the flower was fucking orange. And nobody even knows that, unless they played Trivial Pursuit....
Wasn't the Orange thing related to the Principality of Orange (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Principality_of_Orange)? Perhaps the flower was just a symbol for that.
Comrade Wolfie's Very Nearly Banned Adventures
2nd November 2010, 12:21
The dutch have an interesting relationship with the colour orange.
This crazy shit right here. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oranjegekte)
Q
2nd November 2010, 17:44
The dutch have an interesting relationship with the colour orange.
This crazy shit right here. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oranjegekte)
You don't want to be here at QueensDay. I certainly don't :(
Pirate Utopian
2nd November 2010, 18:17
The reason is silly but it's a day off.
Comrade Wolfie's Very Nearly Banned Adventures
2nd November 2010, 19:02
The reason is silly but it's a day off.
And you get to dress in orange...?
Pirate Utopian
2nd November 2010, 19:31
I only have one orange t-shirt.
Thirsty Crow
2nd November 2010, 20:48
People wear poppies for the dead from WW1 (I think). I don't wear a poppy generally though.
Wearing a "poppy" for the victims of imperialist slaughter, along a red star/hammer&sickle badge...now that's something I wouldn't have a problem with.
Q
2nd November 2010, 21:01
Maybe I should wear this next year:
http://www.thepowerhour.com/news/orange-blue-hammer.gif
Q
2nd November 2010, 21:03
Maybe this for our anarchist comrades:
http://ny-image3.etsy.com/il_fullxfull.35122239.jpg
Il Medico
2nd November 2010, 23:48
Maybe I should wear this next year:
http://www.thepowerhour.com/news/orange-blue-hammer.gif
If you want to look atrocious....
Q
3rd November 2010, 03:55
If you want to look atrocious....
When in Rome...
Il Medico
3rd November 2010, 04:15
When in Rome...
Ride a moped and say "Ciao"? (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-PmuHWPZSkY)
ÑóẊîöʼn
3rd November 2010, 10:14
Why should I give a toss either way?
Vanguard1917
3rd November 2010, 22:48
Is everyone expected to wear them? I mean, I always see people on TV wear them (and even footballers with poppies sewn into the shirts :rolleyes:), but can a regular joe get shit for not wearing one?
A few years ago it became slightly fashionable to not wear one, after the liberal British news anchor Jon Snow had a go at "poppy fascism". His prefered item of sanctimonious conspicuous compassion were those vomit-inducing rubber wristbands* to Make Poverty History, or something or other.
* I think there was one for every "social problem" back then, from poverty to chlamydia.
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