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Blackscare
30th October 2010, 11:08
A note to readers: this is a rather long piece, I apologize that I could not make it more concise, but I am using this as a platform to develop a coherent plan and attempting to get as much written down on the subject as possible. I will be re-visiting this thread often to develop ideas and seek constructive input. Thanks for reading this and please, tell me what you think. This is very exciting stuff for me. And yes, I am fond of commas. Especially while on my prescribed stimulants, which is typically how I write.


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Before I begin with the real core of my idea here, I should give a little background on how this issue came up in the first place.


A friend and I who go back several years and have always shared a radically left-wing bent started to put into action a mid/long-term plan to save 10,000-15,000 collectively. We both work full-time jobs and I work from time to time at a second job. We have very low cost of living, as I am living at home for the time being and he has a deal worked out house sitting a rich world-traveler type's apartment for the rest of the winter (free room and board alone to feed two cats ). We're putting aside money at a steady clip and are currently in the early stages of figuring out what to do with it.

Our plans have shifted over time. First it was to travel to some Bolivarian or otherwise left-wing state where potential political stories abound and start some sort of niche political blog, and do some novice reporting for as long as our combined savings and a favorable exchange rate would allow.

However, we began to realize that we could better serve and attract the interest of the working class by writing inside the US about contemporary issues than about struggles happening in, say, Bolivia, and that our money could be better spent creating some sort of viable platform for broad public Leftist debate in this country, however small it may be in the beginning, than supporting our own lifestyles and funding a small and hopelessly obscure blog.


Founding ideas

Problems regarding the state of the left today:

We identify the main problem with the state of the Left in the United States not as being a lack of decent analysis, but a lack of accessibility to the public. There are a great many voices on the left, and the vast majority of them at least sometimes make accurate observations that are worth reading. However, as time has gone on the endless procession of historical events has compelled us to splinter and define ever-narrower schools of thought. Today there are a multitude of parties, tendencies, and organizations who are variously cooperative, hostile, or operate basically parallel to each other but seemingly ignore each others existence, many putting out their own small newspapers with a generally niche and stagnant audience of party volunteers and the like.

This state of disarray serves to stifle debate of contemporary issues amongst the left as a whole and tends to compartmentalize the subject matter of any debate that does take place either into over-obscure historical bickering or dauntingly in-depth theory.


A possible Answer

The revolutionary foment that occurred during the Left's heydays could not have happened without mass newspapers targeted at average working people, written in terms that were understandable and relevant to daily life. This sort of leftist "neutral ground" upon which various groups may wage a struggle of ideas for the public's favor, deposit dispatches from various campaigns, and to highlight important events overlooked by the mainstream media is the spark needed to catalyze a sense of relevancy, urgency, and vitality in the movement today.


Application
The first step that is required is the creation of a mission statement, constitution, etc, that lays down clearly stated editorial principles of pan-leftist neutrality (within reason, we want to create a forum for all of the socialist left, not a liberal rag) , fairness in exposure, and acceptance only of contemporary and relevant articles along certain pre-defined guidelines. This is useful given that, as newcomers to the world of Leftist publication, we can avoid the burden of assuming the role of ideological directors as some editors are wont to do, and simply function as neutral arbiters of quality.
Once such a document is written, over the course of the next year or so tentative contact can be pursued with as many explicitly left-wing organizations and credible independent socialists as possible, so as to gauge the willingness of possible contributors and familiarize as many people as possible with our aims (this is why having a clear document to provide is essential). During this time we will also try to establish contact with various existing leftist publishing companies/collectives such as AK press to inquire about the finer points of distribution and cost so as to establish a strategy in that regard.

Given the relatively small amount of money we would have to start with, we'd probably attempt to gain the of cooperation of various organizations by securing orders beforehand at a reduced rate, so as to diversify the task of distribution and make back starting capital as quickly as possible to put back into our efforts. When we reach this stage, we will most likely scoop up the cheapest possible office/shop space (with some sort of living area attached) and devote the entirety of our time to the project, getting by on the bare minimum of expenses by making our living area and offices one and the same. The area we have in mind is Detroit, given that it has insanely cheap real estate (so that we could own a relatively nice space outright for cheap and avoid a monthly rent/mortgage bill) and a large population of people squeezed by capitalism and post-industrialism.



This is only the most basic idea of our intentions and I intend to write a follow-up to this tomorrow. To be clear, we are totally aware of the difficulties involved, the financial risks, and the likelihood of failure. Regardless, we are strongly considering this course of action and would appreciate any feedback. Feel free to ask questions or request clarifications. Un-constructive nay-saying is not welcome, however.

scarletghoul
30th October 2010, 12:20
This is a kinda good idea.. To be sure, our primary fight is in the ideological realm, and educating the masses must be our main focus right now. Plus it's something just about every leftist would agree on, so why not co-operate in it ?

But I don't think newspapers should be the first thing we do; they're not at all the best way to communicate with the people. Maybe in the old days, but now newspapers are not so popular and there's also more efficient media to use.

I've had similar ideas about uniting various tendencies for an ideological offensive. If you could secure participation of a few groups, maybe a website would be the best place to start (as well as the cheapest). Then I think it would be awesome to get a little funding from everyone to set up some radio or even TV thing,, but I dunno how much that costs in the US. But whatever, the main point is that if we co-operate and co-ordinate, the Left is capable of waging a powerful ideological offensive which will no doubt find a receptive audience in these troubled times.

wooo

Edit: I'm not sure I agree with a 'pan-leftist neutrality'; it might be productive to publish some debates among the left to show the people that we're not all the same and also to get them thinking about things in leftist terms (ie, get someone thinking about trotsky v stalin from the view of what's best for the working class; this would be a good change from the standard view of 'stalin killed people hes bad'. in this way our issues of disunity could serve to bring people into our movement as a whole)

ÑóẊîöʼn
30th October 2010, 12:39
This is an excellent idea, and scarletghoul's suggestion of a more modern format is also I think a good idea.

Some thoughts on editorial issues, whatever format you decide to go with:

Your initial post suggests a "big tent" policy, within reason. I think this will go a long way to illustrating the diversity of opinion within the revolutionary left, yet at the same time give a sense of unity due to being found on a single publication/site.

With that in mind, I think you should keep to an absolute minimum "back and forth" articles which essentially constitute convoluted and involved arguments about historical and theoretical shit which, let's face it, the vast majority of proletarians don't give a shit about. I really don't blame them.

You might also want to consider getting into contact with Indymedia at some point. Although they operate only on the internet so far as I'm aware, I'm sure they'd welcome the opportunity to make a presence in dead tree flesh if that's the direction you're going. In any case, they could be a resource worth drawing on.

revolution inaction
30th October 2010, 13:34
the problem with the left is that its not dead yet.

Blackscare
30th October 2010, 22:47
But I don't think newspapers should be the first thing we do; they're not at all the best way to communicate with the people. Maybe in the old days, but now newspapers are not so popular and there's also more efficient media to use.

I understand what you're getting at here, and we most likely will start as a modest website over the next year, but my reasoning is this: even the best leftist website has a major flaw, the fact that it has to be sought out specifically. You don't see any mention of revleft or indymedia on the street, no billboards, you won't run into a copy at a news stand or something. It's hard to expose the average person to this kind of material. You tell someone "hey, check out this blog" or whatever, and maybe they do later but probably they will not.

Someone sees and issue of the weekly prole on a deli table or someone trying to sell it on the street, it's more immediately accessible and intriguing.



(ie, get someone thinking about trotsky v stalin from the view of what's best for the working class;

I would never let the argument be framed in a "Trotsky v Stalin" type way, rather I would have to be dueling analysis or suggestions for the future that work in the ideas of permanent revolution or SIOC, etc, in a way that is actually current, newsworthy, and interesting. To the vast majority of people, framing these debates from the historical perspective would not be interesting. I'm not sure exactly what you meant, just clarifying.



With that in mind, I think you should keep to an absolute minimum "back and forth" articles which essentially constitute convoluted and involved arguments about historical and theoretical shit which, let's face it, the vast majority of proletarians don't give a shit about. I really don't blame them.


Noted. Polemics would be kept to a bare minimum and would only be tolerated when directly involving pressing and important contemporary questions, not the relative merits or MTW or whatever.


You might also want to consider getting into contact with Indymedia at some point. Although they operate only on the internet so far as I'm aware, I'm sure they'd welcome the opportunity to make a presence in dead tree flesh if that's the direction you're going. In any case, they could be a resource worth drawing on.

Also noted.



Thanks for the positive responses, and whatever that last one was.

Decolonize The Left
31st October 2010, 16:36
What you would need to do is establish a website as the place for leftist information. You would need to keep it party/ideology neutral (as you've established in the OP) and then ask every leftist organization/press shop/distribution site to link to yours and you'd have a "Links" page which is categorized appropriately.
These other sites could then submit information as to happenings, conventions, rallies, etc... and you could post them on your 'Local Events' page or something.

This would garner additional attention from those already on the left and serve as a basis for increasing traffic, but your main page would be devoted to those not. So you'd need to offer critiques/analysis of everyday happenings (like the Gulf Oil Disaster, etc..) which are relevant to the working class person. By sticking to big, well known, topics, you encourage the random search to stumble upon your page.

All this said, what, exactly, are you attempting to publish (via website or paper)?

- August

revolution inaction
31st October 2010, 17:10
but neutrality conflicts with accuracy

Decolonize The Left
31st October 2010, 17:14
but neutrality conflicts with accuracy

What do you mean? And could you post more than one line?

- August

synthesis
31st October 2010, 21:58
I actually just got a few domain names registered (newmillenniumleft.com/org/net) if you want to use those. I had some ideas for a discussion forum, but I don't know that I'll be able to finance those myself any more.

ÑóẊîöʼn
1st November 2010, 00:02
but neutrality conflicts with accuracy

"I reject your reality, and substitute it for my own!"

revolution inaction
1st November 2010, 13:07
"I reject your reality, and substitute it for my own!"

i'm not sure what you are trying to say here? i was saying that you can't be neutral with out being dishonest, for example to present a neutral view of the theory or evolution and creationism would mean to present the facts in an inaccurate way, because to present them accurately would be to argue in favour of evolution.
the same applies to politics, anarchism and leninism cant both be correct, to be neutral regarding different political theories therefore means that the ideas they involve can't be accurately represented.

Blackscare
1st November 2010, 17:14
to be neutral regarding different political theories therefore means that the ideas they involve can't be accurately represented.

The idea here is to create a neutral space for various tendencies to get their messages out and let the workers decide. It will not be a place for negative attacks and theoretical debates over the inner workings of parties or organization, but instead it will be a place to deposit positive and constructive arguments for contemporary struggle, and let the various points of view sink or swim on their own merits.

Each group and point of view will be able to represent itself and win or lose on the field of ideas.

Now please stop with the one line, oh-so-postmodern claptrap. Thank you.



August, I'm working on a response to you but I have a few things to do today, expect something after 5 or so.