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~Spectre
29th October 2010, 23:53
Reporting from Washington —
President Obama (http://www.latimes.com/topic/politics/government/barack-obama-PEPLT007408.topic) declared Friday that authorities had uncovered a "credible terrorist threat" against the United States after the overseas discovery of explosives in at least two U.S.-bound packages aboard cargo jets.

Discovery of the packages, addressed to Jewish organizations in Chicago, triggered a worldwide alert amid fears that Al Qaeda (http://www.latimes.com/topic/unrest-conflicts-war/terrorism/al-qaeda-ORCIG000003751.topic) was attempting to carry out terrorist attacks. Authorities searched cargo planes and trucks in Philadelphia (http://www.latimes.com/topic/us/pennsylvania/philadelphia-county/philadelphia-%28philadelphia-pennsylvania%29-PLGEO100101023010000.topic), New York and Newark, N.J., and were examining other packages addressed to the U.S. from Yemen (http://www.latimes.com/topic/intl/yemen-PLGEO00000072.topic), where the two containing explosives originated. More suspicious packages were discovered on UPS planes at the Philadelphia and Newark airports, the carrier said.

The events "underscore the necessity of remaining vigilant against terrorism," Obama said at a briefing Friday afternoon. He did not explicitly blame Al Qaeda but, referring to a Yemen (http://www.latimes.com/topic/intl/arabian-peninsula-PLGEOREG000002.topic)-based branch of the terrorist network, said, "We also know that Al Qaeda in the Arabian Peninsula continues to plan attacks against our homeland, our citizens, and our friends and allies.

The president said the packages were addressed to "two places of Jewish worship in Chicago."

John Brennan (http://www.latimes.com/topic/entertainment/john-brennan-PECLB000652.topic), the deputy national security advisor for homeland security and counterterrorism, said authorities had identified the two packages containing explosive materials, which were isolated and "made inert." Brennan said authorities had been on the alert for a potential plot, but declined to elaborate on how they learned of it.

Suspicious packages were first found on cargo flights that landed in Britain and the United Arab Emirates on Thursday night, White House (http://www.latimes.com/topic/politics/government/executive-branch/white-house-PLCUL000110.topic) Press Secretary Robert Gibbs confirmed Friday.

Gibbs said Obama was first briefed on the matter Thursday night and directed U.S. intelligence and Homeland Security agencies to ensure American safety and determine whether the suspicious packages were part of a terrorist plot.

Brennan said more forensic work was needed to determine whether the packages included a mechanism to detonate the explosives. He said he was not surprised that cargo planes were involved instead of passenger jets because Al Qaeda has been trying to adapt to increased Western security measures by finding vulnerabilities in the system.

He said the plot is evidence that extremists remain determined to strike against the U.S.

"Al Qaeda in the Arabian Peninsula has been open in its venom toward the United States," Brennan said. "Not only are they intending to do certain things … they will in fact take steps to carry out those intentions."

Intelligence officials have been concerned for months that Al Qaeda was changing tactics to focus less on spectacular attacks and more on small-scale strikes in the United States to sow fear and disrupt commerce, said a U.S. intelligence official speaking on condition of anonymity because he was not authorized to comment publicly.

All the packages in question were sent from Yemen to U.S. destinations. Bomb technicians searched numerous locations Friday, including UPS cargo hangars at Newark Liberty International Airport, the official said, who added that a UPS truck in Brooklyn also was searched.

The package examined in Britain contained a device that looked like a toner cartridge for a printer but had been altered with wires and a circuit board and had white powder coming out of it, CNN (http://www.latimes.com/topic/economy-business-finance/media/news-agency/cnn-ORCRP000008070.topic) reported.

On its website, UPS said it was "working closely with authorities" after suspicious packages were found on its planes at the Philadelphia and Newark airports.

FedEx (http://www.latimes.com/topic/economy-business-finance/fedex-corporation-ORCRP005636.topic) confirmed that local authorities, in cooperation with the FBI (http://www.latimes.com/topic/crime-law-justice/crimes/fbi-ORGOV000008.topic), had confiscated a suspicious package at its facility in the emirate of Dubai that originated in Yemen.

"As an additional safety measure, FedEx has embargoed all shipments originating from Yemen," said Maury Lane, spokesman for FedEx, the world's largest cargo airline.

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http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/nation/la-na-cargo-planes-20101030,0,5847748.story

A lot of pundits are already stirring the war drums. A few things though:

Obama announced that there was "apparently explosive material", after hours of it being reported as just sort of "visible wires and a chip".

After being so uncertain, they're trying to pass off their certainty that it came from Yemen and specifically Al Qaeda in Yemen?

Why would anyone send two shitty bombs through UPS from Yemen to the United States to begin with? Bombs can be made anywhere and it's not like these devices were some gamebreaking level of devastating that can't be replicated by the domestic agents that would have theoretically had to detonate these devices anyway?

They're now claiming that they can trace the type of explosive this was to the same bomb maker they claim made the (also an allegedly Yemeni plot) "Christmas bomber"'s bomb. Another plot that was conveniently thwarted, conveniently involving planes, and came at around a time when the U.S. had struck Yemen.

I'm not much for conspiracy, but does anyone else find anything at all fishy with their narrative?

brigadista
30th October 2010, 00:00
in the wikileaks week - hmm..

empiredestoryer
30th October 2010, 02:01
america really behind planting of device found on planes you mean ha ha as if we didnt allready know that the world can really believe everything america says YEAH RIGHT

Martin Blank
30th October 2010, 02:38
The terrorists are getting lazy. But it does add a new twist to UPS' slogan, "What can Brown do for you?"

Notorio
30th October 2010, 18:24
This was all over the news over here. 12 suspicious packages they retrieved, only two were "dangerous", Now the US has cease all carrier operations with yemen for the time being i beleive.

I've probably carted italian cologne's more volatile then what they found on the plane.

Thirsty Crow
1st November 2010, 14:02
I've heard on TV that a student, as well as her mother, was responsible for sending that packages...they apparently had connections with Al' Qaeda.
And apparently she (the student) gave her real phone number when she was sending the package...
Now, I'm not keen on conspiracy theories, but this sounds like bullshit. C'mon, giving your real phone number? Shit.

Fulanito de Tal
1st November 2010, 22:08
in the wikileaks week - hmm..

Also, just before mid-term elections. :glare:

Amphictyonis
1st November 2010, 22:28
More people die every year from car accidents. Over the last 100 years more people have died from shark attacks. What are the odds of average American being killed by a 'terrorist'?

Fulanito de Tal
1st November 2010, 23:07
More people die every year from car accidents. Over the last 100 years more people have died from shark attacks. What are the odds of average American being killed by a 'terrorist'?

Every time I go to Cuba, I'm in danger of terrorism from the assassins in Miami...but that's not what's on tv. Those guys are seen as freedom fighters. They fight for the freedom of the U$ to install what ever companies it wants in Cuba. The ones that do it in the name of a sovereign Middle East, those are the ones we need to hear about, especially when the working class in the U$ starts demanding it's human rights. It reminds us that we need to give up our personal freedom and opinions to lease a new car every year, get a new cell phone with every contract, and have the fastest fucking wireless internet ever.

~Spectre
2nd November 2010, 00:10
Even the war mongering New York times is now starting to call the government out on their claims.

Glenn Greenwald complies the quotes and gives a great breakdown.
http://www.salon.com/news/opinion/glenn_greenwald/2010/11/01/awlaki/index.html

From the 31st when they were doing the dirty work of the Obama administration:


As investigators on three continents conducted forensic analyses of two bombs shipped from Yemen and intercepted Friday in Britain and Dubai, American officials said evidence was mounting that the top leadership of Al Qaeda in the Arabian Peninsula, including the radical American-born cleric Anwar al-Awlaki, was behind the attempted attacks. . . .
Reviewing the evidence, American intelligence officials say they believe that the plot may have been blessed by the highest levels of Al Qaeda’s affiliate in Yemen, including Mr. Awlaki. . . . This year, the C.I.A. designated Mr. Awlaki -- an American citizen -- as a high priority for the agency’s campaign of targeted killing.
Compare that to what they put out today:


American and Yemeni officials still have little hard evidence about who was involved in the thwarted attack. . . . As for who was behind the plot, evidence remains elusive, though officials believe the bombs bear the hallmarks of Al Qaeda in Yemen's top bomb maker. On Friday, the Department of Homeland Security issued a cable saying that the packages might have been linked to two schools in Yemen. . . . But American and Yemeni investigators are trying to determine whether the schools -- listed as the Yemen-American Institute for Language-Computer Management and the American Center for Training and Development -- even exist. There is a school in Sana called the Yemen American Language Institute, but it is sponsored by the United States State Department.

How long will Americans continue to believe a single fucking word that comes from this administration and the "government officials" that plant the original stories in the paper? He's getting even loonier than Bush in many ways.